Nissan 350Z Reliability and Maintenance Costs
Recently, I started searching for used 350Zs just to see what was out there within 100 miles of where I live, and I was stunned by the vast number of these cars that are for sale with less than 25,000 miles on the odometer. I wonder why so many people are unloading their 350Zs? Could it be the rising costs of premium unleaded fuel? Rapid tire wear? Or just total cost of ownership being too much for some folks? I'm just curious as to why I am seeing so many 350Zs for sale all over the place. I see quite a few of them on non-Nissan dealerships' used car lots as well.
I've owned a 1990 Nissan 300ZX since July of 1993 that I purchased with 18,000 miles on it. The car was owned by a V.P. of R.J. Reynolds Tobacco Co. and it had been garaged the vast majority of the time that he owned the car. It was 100% immaculate when I first purchased it from the man, and I picked it up for $18,150.00; which I thought was a very good price since it stickered for right around $30K new. I've been hoping that maybe I could find a 350Z in nearly immaculate condition as well, but I'm starting to become somewhat leary of a vehicle that so many people are wanting to unload with less than 25,000 miles on the clock. I've enjoyed my 300ZX(Z32) so much that I have held onto it for 13 years now. My oldest son wants it really bad so I am going to go ahead and sign it over to him.
Overall, how well do you guys like your 350Zs? How's the build quality and reliability on these cars been since their debut?
Thanks in advance for any feedback that you can provide me with on the 350Z.
Ron M.
I've owned a 1990 Nissan 300ZX since July of 1993 that I purchased with 18,000 miles on it. The car was owned by a V.P. of R.J. Reynolds Tobacco Co. and it had been garaged the vast majority of the time that he owned the car. It was 100% immaculate when I first purchased it from the man, and I picked it up for $18,150.00; which I thought was a very good price since it stickered for right around $30K new. I've been hoping that maybe I could find a 350Z in nearly immaculate condition as well, but I'm starting to become somewhat leary of a vehicle that so many people are wanting to unload with less than 25,000 miles on the clock. I've enjoyed my 300ZX(Z32) so much that I have held onto it for 13 years now. My oldest son wants it really bad so I am going to go ahead and sign it over to him.
Overall, how well do you guys like your 350Zs? How's the build quality and reliability on these cars been since their debut?
Thanks in advance for any feedback that you can provide me with on the 350Z.
Ron M.
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I've had my Z roadster since April of this year. So far, I love it. There was one problem where it didn't fill with gasoline properly, and in fact the gas nozzle kicked back and sprayed me with gasoline. I'm not postive whether this was a problem with the car or with the service station pump.
Other than that, which only occurred once, no problems at all and this is for sure the most fun car I've ever owned. Wouldn't miss it and am so glad I bought it.
That said - if I were buying a used Z, I'd probably stay away from '03's, unless there was proof that the known problems had been fixed (tire alignment mostly, also the fuel shutter valve, couple other things).
Also remember that most Z's are probably second cars. It's not unusual that second cars, especially sports cars that maybe only get driven on the weekends, end up getting sold a few years later with very low mileage. You can't compare it to a family sedan or daily commuter that's going to pile up the miles pretty quickly.
I've had my Z roadster since April of this year. So far, I love it. There was one problem where it didn't fill with gasoline properly, and in fact the gas nozzle kicked back and sprayed me with gasoline. I'm not postive whether this was a problem with the car or with the service station pump.
Other than that, which only occurred once, no problems at all and this is for sure the most fun car I've ever owned. Wouldn't miss it and am so glad I bought it.
That said - if I were buying a used Z, I'd probably stay away from '03's, unless there was proof that the known problems had been fixed (tire alignment mostly, also the fuel shutter valve, couple other things).
Also remember that most Z's are probably second cars. It's not unusual that second cars, especially sports cars that maybe only get driven on the weekends, end up getting sold a few years later with very low mileage. You can't compare it to a family sedan or daily commuter that's going to pile up the miles pretty quickly.
We're living in the Piedmont Triad area of N.C.(Greensboro/Winston-Salem/High Point)--which is not a major metropolitan area of the country. I too would be using the Z as a second car and not as a daily driver. A couple of my existing cars will suffice for those purposes.
Thanks for the feedback on this inquiry! I appreciate your time.
Regards,
Ron M.
Nice area. I'm typing from the heart of Nags Head right now. ;-)
Another theory I have is that you get more people getting in over their heads financially with cars that inspire more passion. In other words, you'll find way fewer people that just HAVE TO HAVE a Camry than you will who HAVE TO HAVE a Z and, consequently, get in too deep and wind up having to sell it or get it repo'd.
And yet another theory, and one that applies to me, is someone who bought a little 2-door, 2-seat sportscar and then found out a short later that they will soon have the need to have room for an infant carseat. As a matter of fact, when I bought my Z, I was told the man before me traded it in (with only 9K miles) for this same reason. After it happened to me (now with 15k miles), we dubbed this Z "cursed."
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '98 Alfa 156 2.0TS; '08 Maser QP; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '11 Mini Cooper S
That's to be expected, getting close to the end of the model year. Dealers probably aren't getting as many new ones as they did earlier in the year, and/or they're making deals good enough to move 'em on out to prepare for the arrival of the '07's.
If you go over to my350z.com, you will notice that there seems to be 2 basic age groups that own this car.
The first is the under 25 crowd and the other is the 40+ crowd.
I have been astounded when I read the myriad of posts about the under 25 year old's who work many long hours just to make the $600/month car payment and the insurance since they had to have this car but put nearly nothing down.
I was not at all surprised then to see these start to show up on used car lots (there are 3 in my neighborhood alone in the front yard for sale).
I believe that many find that trying to pay for this car after the initial 'rush' is just too much and they get rid of it.
I am of the 40+ crowd and I paid cash for my 2005 350Z and have had it since July 2005 so my recurring expenses on this car are very low (premium gas and insurance)
Something else to think about:
As other poster's have stated, this is not my daily commuter car.
If it were, I would never have even considered such a car.
It has a rough ride,no room in the trunk,only holds 2 people and on long trips, it is downright tiring.
I am convinced that a lot of people buy cars like this without thinking long term.
This car is a blast to drive but it is NOT a car to own if it is the only car you have.
Granted, a college student who put a good downpayment on the car does not fit the above. They have a small monthly payment and don't have a 5 day a week commute to a job like the 'oldies' do.
There are plenty of exceptions like in the previous paragraph, but if one is going to own only ONE car,it should not be a car like this.
This is not unique to the Z. it goes the same for TT's/Boxster's/RX8's/Vettes,etc.
That I think is dawning on many people and is why they are getting rid of it for something more practical.
Just my .02
I read on my350z a lot, post under a different name than here. The younger guys are nuts! Fun to read them - makes me really, really glad I'm not 24 anymore!
Ron M.
In my particular case, I fit neither age brackets. I was 31 when I bought mine. I could have kept it when the baby was on his way because I did have 2 other cars we could cart him around in, but I traded mine for practical AND financial reasons. I had equity in the car that I decided could go towards the nursery instead. It was a sacrifice I was willing to make.
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '98 Alfa 156 2.0TS; '08 Maser QP; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '11 Mini Cooper S
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A good one, I'm guessing....
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '98 Alfa 156 2.0TS; '08 Maser QP; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '11 Mini Cooper S
My dad walked two miles to school, in knee deep snow, uphill both ways...
Rather,
You had made a very good point and so I merely replied to it to keep it in context.
Good luck with the new born and hope to see you posting back in 10 years:)
A bit of kidding but also grounded in reality. When you have a baby, your priorities change 100% (as it should) plus there is the financial aspect.
Didn't mean to scare you at all. I think the car will be very reliable. Are you looking at the roadster or the coupe? That makes a bit of difference.
When I say it doesn't usually make sense as the only car for most people, I'm just thinking of the occasional need for more storage space, more passenger space, etc. Plus, if you live in a cold climate, the roadster is not that practical in winter. Even the coupe might do better with snow tires if you get a lot of snow.
My tires (on a roadster) are high performance tires that are not designed to be driven in snow, for instance, at all. But I live in Virginia, so we don't get that much snow. I plan to garage it in the winter and only drive it when the streets are dry.
Some people avoid driving in heavy rains. This is probably wise again if you want the roadster, because convertibles don't give you any protection against lightning (no steel frame). Even though odds are you won't have a problem, still, I won't drive mine in a thunder and lightning situation (though it's been fine with just rain, no problems at all).
That said - if the car meets your needs 90% of the time, and you can either stay home in nasty weather or rent a car on the occasions when you need more space or have to get through snow, then go for it! It certainly puts a grin on my face while driving it. Most fun I've had in a car since I was a teenager!
I drove an MGB over 100K miles as my daily driver (plus trips), including two winters in Edmonton, Alberta, where temperatures below -20 were common.
Replaced it with a 240Z which I drove every day for the next five years in Edmonton & Vancouver (where it rains a lot).
Neither of these cars had ABS, yaw control or any of the other gizmos available to make life simpler and/or safer on the 350Z.
Buy one. Have fun.
Mind you, however, neither the Eos or MX5 will come close to the performance of the Z.
Its a matter of finding out what is important to you.
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '98 Alfa 156 2.0TS; '08 Maser QP; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '11 Mini Cooper S
Don't know if you've checked the "mileage" topics but most people have found the Z has pretty decent mileage. I get around 18 - 19 around town, and upwards of 25 on the highway (not in stop and go traffic on the Beltway, but heading south towards the Outer Banks on the very uncongested Rt. 17).
The tank holds 20 gallons - you won't be filling up as often as you do with cars with smaller tanks, which is nice on a long trip. Getting close to 400 miles on a tankful is certainly possible. (The warning light goes on when you still have about 3 - 4 gallons left.)
Everyone talks about gas prices, but think of it this way - is your life really going to be significantly different if you spend $500 a year on gas vs. $300 vs. $800? Really, I doubt it. Knock off a couple stops at McD's and you'll have some extra dollars in your pocket right there - and be healthier as well!
I can't say about the Mx-5, but I test-drove a Miata some time ago (the forerunner of the 5, isn't it?) and felt like I was in a toy. It was fun when there weren't any other cars around, but I drove it for just a few exits' worth on the Beltway and really didn't like how it was blown around with big trucks whooshing by.
The Z has stability, performance, good looks, and pizzaz and fun quotient to spare!
Part of my thinking was "If not now, when?" In the mid-50's, one's thoughts naturally turn to "what do I still want to do with my life?" For me, owning a fun, fast red convertible was pretty high on that list! When I test-drove the Z, the fun, the stability, and the "whee!" factor immediately won me over.
I just bought my 350ZR 3 weeks ago and dropped 15 years off of the mental age (wasn't that high to start with). 2005 new left over in Ultra Yellow. Now if that is not a ticket getter I don't know what is. Speaking of which, Virginia has a law against radar detectors. Anyone have any good suggestions on the discrete (invisible) detectors. I'm thinking of getting one the next time I am visiting NC. I have read several posts from folks in the VA/NC arae. I just moved to Richmond a year ago from Winston-Salem. One tobacco town to another.
And definitely second the advice about buying a left-over 2005 if at all possible, if there still are any. I did the same thing in April and got a similar deal. You have to be in the right place at the right time for that. Very good financial move when it works right. The dealer and/or Nissan corporate gets to pay the first year's depreciation that way.
So I'm about to purchase my first sports car. I've been OBSESSING about the 350Z for a year now. I finally save my money up, find one in Minnesota (Touring Package/6 speed)....
It takes 3 weeks to get to Calgary, Canada.... My dealer picks it up... 2 hours before I'm suppose to buy it he TOTALS THE DAMN THING!!!!
Ok.. my questions is truly what happened...
The man claims he was taking a turn of probably 40 degrees going 38 miles an hour.. There was a piece of metal on the curb (size of hood) he jerked the steering wheel probably to go around it.. Then the back tires started to skid... he ended up flying up in the air from smoking the curb and took out the light post...
Needless to repeat (because it hurts), the car is totalled.
Doesn't the car have VDC? How could this happen? What he just a dumb [non-permissible content removed]? Or do I have to reconsider what I'm about to buy AGAIN here, giving that I live close the mountains where the roads are icy... Not DRY like it was on Saturday when the accident occurred??????
@#$@$^%$&$^*%&*(%&*^%& I"M SO PISSED! :sick:
As for VDC, there are 2 issues at play here. One is that no form of traction and stability control can stop a person from destroying their car if they are really intent on doing so. There is a point where physics outweighs electronic intervention. 2nd, the Z's VDC is not a great system. I've heard many stories of people skidding off the road in rain, and I myself had a bad experience in just a light dusting of snow. DO NOT buy this car if you plan to drive it on ice! i don't know who in their right mind would intentionally drive ANY 6-speed rear-drive sportscar on ice or snow.
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '98 Alfa 156 2.0TS; '08 Maser QP; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '11 Mini Cooper S
Best bet is to buy some sort of older small SUV or something for your winter car, and drive the Z from April 1 to first snowfall, and then keep it garaged until end of snow season.
Regarding the thrill quotient - if you've only driven the 328i, you MUST drive the 335i with twin turbos. It's an incredible engine with peak torque occurring at 1400 rpm. Unlike most turbos, it's very transparent and linear. No lag, just power whenever and wherever you need it. The convertibles are slightly slower (~ .2 sec) than their fixed roof counterparts, but I think the folding hardtop is the best of both worlds with no performance compromise. Don't forget that BMW includes 4 years of maintenance at no additional cost, which is a fantastic service plan. With Nissan, you pay for all of your maintenance, service and most consumable items. Unfortunately, the BMW will cost considerably more, but will hold its value well over time. Use Edmunds' True Cost of Ownership to compare vehicles and you'll see that the BMW rates amongst the lowest in its class.
I'm also mid-50's, married, no kids. I've found the Z has enough stowage space for my/our needs. We can pack the trunk with an airline-size carry on plus a duffel plus miscellaneous odds and ends, and there's quite a bit of space in the cubby behind the passenger seat.
However, it's a second car for us. The other car is a Maxima, which we use for long driving vacations, picking up stuff from Home Depot, and the like. In daily use, I drive the Z and my husband has the Max.
The Z would be hard to live with if it's your *only* car. It totally fills the bill (for me) as a second car. Will this be your one and only or will this be the fun-mobile with some other car doing the heavy-duty hauling and what not?
Although - be advised that you can buy a complete set of luggage, with four pieces (suitcase, duffel bag, garment bag, and ... one other piece which escapes me now. Weekender or some such? I think Courtesy Nissan has it.
Those four pieces will fit in the trunk perfectly, and I'd bet you could get a LOT of stuff in there.
Just sayin'. ;-)
I also have a 1986 300ZX, bought with less than 50k miles. I've had two problems with this car, an alternator went bad leaving me on the side of the road several years ago and now reverse does not have enough strength to back up a hill. The car has over 200k miles and is not driven much with the 350Z and a 2006 Frontier in the stable.
I think it is hard to find a better car for the money.
I did have to drive through snow yesterday which was not too fun but I made it. I can't wait until the summer when I can go crusing in the mountains near my home!
Mine is a 2005 GT roadster 6-speed manual. with 18" wheels I bought it new in 9/05. The build quality is okay, you can assess that yourself. The paint quality is poor. Mine is black and there front fasicsa which I had replaced and painted by a local shop is the best part of the car coating. The paint chips when you look at the car. In 25,000 (coincidence eh?) I have been through a total of 10 tires including teh RE040's it came with. At $200 per it adds up. I am NOT a lead foor burn out kid, rather a middle age white guy with a fun warm weather car. The noise from teh front tire cupping is deafening. It is teh first rear wheel drive car I have EVER had that chews up front tires faster that the rear ones!. Now today the dealer told me there is a TSB to explain why in 25,000 miles my sports car has used more oil than my Accord has in 297,000 miles. Looks like they may need to replace teh engine. In the meantime I have been instructed not to drive my "high performance sports car" cannot be accelerated at full throttle OR run at over 4000 rpm.
Is the picture getting more clear?
if anyone can let me know that would be great!
I own a 350Z and I almost did a 360 on the expressway due to wet weather i was only going 15mph and barely tapped the gas to get into the next lane and basically spun out but i was able to regain control and straighten her out.
I honestly dont think the 350Z is the right car for any 17 yr old whether it be boy or girl w/ this car think of like this, would you want a 17 yr old on a crotch rocket? probably not, its just not a practical car for a teenager due to the high performance aspect of the car, just like a bike you have to really have respect for a car like the Z.
You could do worse, if that's your price range.
Tom and Andy the Cat
Z Owners Since 1993
It doesnt matter if you have anti-lock brakes, side airbags or how well the car handles, if you dont know how to drive a high performance car like the Z all that safety stuff is irrelevant.
Besides whoever this parent is, my advice is get her something sporty since thats obviously what she is looking for, i would look at Nissan's new Altima coupe, it doesnt have as much horse power but its still a pretty cool looking coupe, not to mention if your daughter got a Z you'd be worried 24/7 every time she took the car out, do you really want that stress?