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Ranger or Toyota Pickup?
Need a good used 4 cyl pickup. Must get good MPG 90 miles round trip to work; then carrying 1 or 2 dirt bikes 10 miles only. Leaning towards Toyota or Ranger but open to suggestions. Budget $5000.
Also, can anyone tell me the advantages or disadvantages to having a lift or not. Thanks, Bill bspratt@yahoo.com
Also, can anyone tell me the advantages or disadvantages to having a lift or not. Thanks, Bill bspratt@yahoo.com
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The first summer the air conditioned blew. At 20K half the computer burned up. At about 28K a rattle began in the engine area when I started it and lasted for about a minute each time. At 36K (right after the warranty ran out) the rattle was determined to be the solenoid which had rattled loose in the bell housing BECAUSE IT HAD NOT BEEN TORQUED TO SPECIFICATIONS WHEN BUILT. I paid for that repair.
All this time the radio would suddenly just quit, and when I took it to the dealer each time, they would remove the radio, see nothing wrong, put it back in, and it would work fine. Their conclusion: "can't find anything wrong, and it seems to work fine." My conclusion: the power supply plug is LOOSE. So I asked them to try taping the plug into the radio to hold it. They "forgot" to do it.
From the day I bought it, if it was raining or even just a little damp out, the brakes grabbed so hard until they warmed that the slammed on no matter how lightly I touched them. Dealer response: "oh, that's just the nature of the brake material." As though that made it OK.
My solution: trade it in and buy a Tundra which has been very, very good thank you.
My in-laws swear by Ford and have had several since I've known them. They trade them in before they reach 40K due to problems but go right out and buy another which again gives them trouble. Their last needed a transmission overhaul and a new radiator before it reached 20K! But they LOVE Fords. I think it has something to do with the ease of spelling F-O-R-D.
You might want to click on my profile name, and look at the other forums saying just the same stuff here (except some have over 1000 posts compared to only 6 here.)
I own a 93 ford with a 2.3l, and have over 135k miles. The valve cover has come off once. This little four banger is reliable as heck. I still get 19-20 city/25-28 highway milage. I replaced a transmission at 115k-150k miles, and a radiator, and water pump at 130k. Everything else is original. Power steering is noisy, but still tight and handles well. I've replaced my entire braking system (capilers, rotors, pads, and shoes) My alternator drives my 600 watt stereo for over 3 years, and my 1045 cca battery has never gotten low. So you'll see I have had to replace items only after years and many miles of use. Pretty high quality if you ask me. I've been through my share of racing on beaches(and eating 4 wheel wrangers for lunch), and been through my share of offroading(and have pulled out many imports out of the sticks)
Narada->Maybe you should have told the dealer about the rattle in your engine bay (but then you say bell housing?) when it first started. If you drove with it for 8 thousands miles, maybe that made it worse, especially if it was a starter solenoid. Everytime you started it, a loose starter will grind the flywheel. Hope you didn't hit the starter much while the engine was running, that causes that problem all the time.
Just buy an aftermarket stereo. You'll enjoy at least twice the power, and can even have it professionally installed. I still use all factory wiring on my aftermarket stereo, amps, subwoofer and speakers. Not one problem here!
On engines, I'd recommend the 4.0l. It's only a $220 dollar option over the 3.0l, and it has the same modular design as the 4.6l v-8 found in the rest of the ford fleet. These engines are tough performers with great torque available down low, and toyota's engines just can't complete there. (see other the forum "TOYOTA TACOMA vs FORD RANGER- Part XI" post 1207 for complete data on this)
In summary, Ford cars and trucks serve their owners well. Well owners that know what maintenance is... Ford Ranger is the best selling compact truck for 13 years straight. The Ford Ranger is also the the best selling car/truck in America this year as well. So don't let a few isolated incidents persuade you. Test drive one and see how you like it personally. All cars and trucks have the occasional problem, that's what a warranty is for. Also make sure you don't go to a punk dealer.
fact is, the tacoma will spank a ranger in the dirt. there's alot of arguement to this, but if resale value is any indication to which is best, then the toyota is your answer. as for a "punk" dealer? never heard such a thing.
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nirada- isn't it amazing how some dealers can't find a problem with what you are complaining about until the warranty period is over?
No experience with Ford, but my bro owns a 94 Ranger; been ok, some problems, mostly electrical gremlins.
I personally would pay a reasonable premium for a Toyota if I was buying used, but that's my opinion..
By the way, the gas cap was the person pumping the gas breaking my gas cap.. Here in Oregon we can't pump our own gas.. I thought I had mentioned that when I posted the problem...
Here in Texas, Ford is king.
Cheers
Tacoma trucks are assembled in Fremont, CA. I think those folks like their jobs.
Shipped via American (in country) and other worldwide (out of country) couriers. I think those folks like their jobs too.
All other components are manufactured in the US and assembled here. Definately like their jobs in the U.S.
Lastly, are you aware of how many countries Ford and Toyota exist in. The fish tank is getting smaller.
John
I have a 92 V6 4x4 Toyota PU, and just this morning when I release the clutch pedal, a clicking noise sounds once, twice, and finally a third time at the top of the pedal travel before I take my foot off.
What is this?
Thanks,
Gringo1
Not sure if you are still checking here for answers on your question but my advice would be localize where the clicking is coming from (i.e., you may need to get on your back and check out the clutch action under the dash). Check the springs that create tension on the pedal. Chances are they are creaking and/or clicking. If investigations are not working out, try posting you message The Manual transmission post in the Maintenance discussions. If these are transmission noises, I would seek transmission mechanic help...it could be with a 92, you need to have your clutch pedal adjusted a little.
If you are concerned you should make a trip to the dealer or a tranny specialist especially if you are hearing transmission noises unreleted to the clutch pedal travel.
John
take this how u want to
seeya
The data is on the internet and anyone who does their homework will see this quality gap so many Toyota owners want to believe does not really exist.... I agree Toyota holds an edge.. Just not the huge edge so many think exists...
Catch you guys in the other Taco V. Ranger forum since this will be my last post here.
Cheers,
John
Basically, I don't have a tachometer, and I'm looking for engine RPM at these given speeds:
20 MPH
45 MPH
60 MPH
70 MPH
80 MPH
If anyone would be willing to take note of their tachs when they're driving around and get back to me on these, I would be greatly appreciative. Thanks.
First the Tacoma is ASSEMBLED in CA. Second, the Ranger is MADE in Kansas AND Canada.
Second, check right in your own backyard here at Edmunds, the Tacoma is not as great as you want so badly to believe. Check the reliability, quality, performance ratings between the two trucks.
Third, why is the crashtest rating so bad on your Tough Tacoma?
Fourth, why does Toyota put OPEN rear axles on the TAcoma?
Fifth, Do you know what a HP/Torque curve is? I guess not because you don't tow, or haul with your Tacoma.. otherwise you would have bought a Ranger.
Sixth, why is the bed so shallow in the TAcoma?
Seventh, why does Toyota charge so much for a set of Bilstein shocks, springs in order to slap a "TRD" sticker on the side of the TAcoma?
Do you know what a locker is? when to use it? did you know its and OPEN axle? did you know it can only be engaged in 4low? and NOT to try to take sharp turns with it engaged? Do you really know how limited this TRD package is to the average truck user?? Resale?? YOu paid more, sure hope you get more for your Tacoma..
1badsidekick - They're both good trucks with different strong points. You shouldn't go wrong with either one.
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