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Nissan Altima



  • Both me and my wife went in and test drove the 2.5 S 5-speed yesterday. We were both very impressed. I've followed this board and read that everyone complains about the interior. I drive a '96 Kia Sephia so the interior feels like a step up for me. The head room and leg room in the back is great. My wife likes the fact that she can reach the controls of the radio without having to stretch (she's a tiny 4'10").

    I test drove the camry today and it just didn't have the feel that I had when I drove the altima. The back didn't have the leg room that the altima had. After today I've decided to go with the altima. There's one thing though, the car that took for a test drive didn't have the convience package in it. The dealer said that he could do a dealer trade to get the model and color that I want. I have some questions about dealer trades that hopefully some of you can answer.

    1. How does a dealer trade process work and will I have to pay extra for it?

    2. Can't I just have the dealer order me a new altima with the exact things that I want on it?

    3. I don't want some Joe Schmoe driving my new altima to deliver my new car. Plus I feel more comfortable if I'm putting the miles on the car myself. Will the dealer let me go pick-up the car myself?

    Someone please answer question #1 because I'm not too sure how this entire process works.
  • aftyafty Posts: 499
    1. How does a dealer trade process work and will I have to pay extra for it?
    2. Can't I just have the dealer order me a new altima with the exact things that I want on it?

    A dealer trade happens when one dealer sells a car to another dealer. Usually it happens for something like $100 over invoice. Your dealer searches through inventories of nearby dealers looking for a car that matches your specs, and if he finds one he buys it from the other dealer and then sells it to you. The advantage to this method over ordering a car is that you don't have to wait for a car to be built and delivered to you. The disadvantage is that it is possible that they won't be able to find exactly what you want and you may have to settle for something slightly different from what you were hoping for. I'm not entirely clear how the two processes would impact pricing.
  • maxamillion1maxamillion1 Posts: 1,467
    1. From what I have seen(experience with a Honda dealer) all they have to do to find your vehicle is check with other dealerships in the area, then they make a trade, you should pay nothing for this, and if they try to charge you DON'T PAY IT! The sales manager I shadowed in 9th grade told me that it cost them nothing, but they often try to charge people for the time they spent hunting it down.(Again, don't pay if they try to charge.)

    2) Yes, the dealer can order your car I believe. I for one want a Altima 2.5SL with every option excpet the wood grain trim or a 3.5SE with all the options execpt the rear spoiler(I just don't like them.) I want my Altima in a 5 speed, I have yet to see one, so I figure I will have to order, and I have been told that you can. It could take awhile though.

    3) The dealer should have no problem with you going to pick up your car from the other dealership, in reality you are helping them, it's saving them money buy you going to get it. Also, I would check it out before I buy it.

    Also, Just out of curiousity, what options do you want on your new Altima? The dealerships in my area have an overwhelming supply of 2.5S models with the Convenience packages, I've only seen one 2.5S without it.
  • ronoboyronoboy Posts: 32
    Our Altima S was a dealer trade between our dealer in Champaign, IL and one in Bloomington, IN. Our dealer had a staff person drive a trailer to Bloomington to deliver the car they were trading, and then trailered my car back to Champaign. There was no charge for this and I when I took delivery my car had only 4 miles. Small amount of confusion in that I was looking for an Altima S with ABS/side air bags and the micron filter (in red, no convenience package). The car that was delivered also had mud flaps and floor mats. I wouldn't pay for these so they threw in the mud flaps free and took the floor mats out. The local dealer had ordered the car I wanted from the factory but I said if they found one to trade before that would be fine, got the car about a month earlier this way.
  • I am very curious about the price for the '01 Millenia P for $21680 that you cited here earlier. Was it for a brand new car? Or was it a demo? I cannot locate a dealer to offer me that price in Denver. Can you tell us where you are and more about the deal?

    The deal is certainly great and I don't see how you can get such a nice car and pay $2000 less than a similarly equipped 3.5SL Altima. In comparison, Altima is certainly way over-priced. Millenia is positioned to be near-luxury and has been well appraised by reviewers.

    By the way, if anyone knows any dealer in Denver can give the same deal, please post your contact info here and I will be more than happy to call you.
  • ahossaahossa Posts: 152
    This particular car I test drove was super smooth, quiet car. Everthing worked and everthing was in place.The muti link susupension was awesome. I drove into a belly-like hole and the car handled it smoothly. I expected some noises but none.As a matter of fact I purposely went into that hole.This was on Long Island, New York. Hard to find bad roads there.To Spade I understand your nervousness. I prefer to buy a car off the lot as opposed to them finding one for you.But this is a common practice and sometimes I believe it's the luck of the draw when it comes to getting a good car or a problem prone one.I was looking for a base Se and the salesman said he has to have his inventory manager locate one at the port in Elizabeth, NJ. I was looking at Camry but the dealers are just taking off a couple of hundred dollars of MSRp.In a recession they shouldn't be getting MSRP.I'm a salesman and traffic is way down in almost every business except security related businesses.At most dealers they are more salesmen than customers.
  • aftyafty Posts: 499
    The new Altima won Edmunds' "Most Wanted Midsized Sedan Under $30,000" award! Check out the article here.
  • I went to see the new Altima upclose and personal today, and I was seriously impressed! The new look is lovely, and I thought the interior was actually pretty nice. It's just different than most. I have been looking at a 2002 Accord, and I like it's reliability record, but that Altima is hot....and the girlfriend loves it too :-). Can anyone tell me what the reliability history of the Altima as a model is? I've heard it's pretty good, and I am hoping to make a decision in the next couple of weeks.
  • A few posts ago I was saying how much I liked the Millenia yet it was SO expensive, and now I am eating crow!!. How ironic! I get a flyer from Mazda talking about steep discounts on the Millenia. To make a long story short, my wife is now the proud owner of a Millenia P which we leased for $22,000. Invoice was almost $27K...MSRP $29K!!!!. What can I say, the Millenia is a nice car.
  • oh man, went down to a dealer and saw the Altima...there is not way i could ever purchase a car that has a CHEAPO interior as the NEW Altima.

    Not only is the interior cheap and plasticky...the front grille has a lot of plastic too...

    This car in New York would become a rattle box in no time.

    240 horses who cares, when you cant stand the interior...and hey that is where you are 100 percent of the time.

    oh, the walnut yellow...tacky.
  • maxamillion1maxamillion1 Posts: 1,467
    I looked at one yesterday. What color is it? Can you post some pics of it later? Congrats on your purchase, now you have two very nice cars in your fleet. A Millenia and a Maxima.
  • maxamillion1maxamillion1 Posts: 1,467
    It's the sadest excuse for wood trim I have ever seen, since it's not standard, why didn't they just make it real wood, and charge more for it? Nissan can make some REALLY STUPID decisions.

    Did anybody read the article in NY Times about Nissan sending Pill Bottles to people, and people thought they may contain anthrax, talk about bad timing! So Nissan has stopped sending them out, and is going to send letters of apologies to people who receieved them, and will send regular brochures to anyone who would like to get one. Personally I think they should have just sent us all regular brochures in the first place, and used the extra money on the interior materials, but that's JMO.
  • fwatsonfwatson Posts: 639
    This is an Altima forum, so I will keep this brief:

    tcdenver: quote

    "I am very curious about the price for the '01 Millenia P for $21680 that you cited here earlier. Was it for a brand new car? Or was it a demo? I cannot locate a dealer to offer me that price in Denver. Can you tell us where you are and more about the deal?"


    Yes, brand new, three miles on odo. Was not even on the dealers inventory list yet. A salesman heard us talking, and told them they had exactly what I was looking for on the back lot. Took one look at it and closed the deal at $21830, minus $150 in gas cards = $21680. Cash, no trade, before tax and tag. Out the door $23779. No trick to this deal, and the car is immaculate. I now have 3800 trouble free miles on it after a 3000 mile vacation, and it's ready for the first oil change.

    This was Courtesy Mazda in Tampa Fl. Good luck in Denver.
  • maxamillion.... I want to get a 2.5 S 5-speed with the convience package and foglights. I would like a siver one (like in the commercials). I think the altima looks pretty good in that color. If the dealer finds one without the foglights, I'd still take it. I've been to a couple of dealerships here and everyone has the S in an automatic. I prefer to pick my own gears so I want the 5-speed.
  • riezriez Posts: 2,361
    Looked at the Lexus ES300 this weekend. Thought it interesting that this 210 HP 3.0L V-6 car comes standard with V-rated tires, P215/60VR16. Brochure says it has a top speed of 140 mph. It comes only with automatic transmission. Still can't figure out why Nissan puts H-rated tires on the Altima 3.5 SE automatic. Must have a speed limiter, 'cause it should be able to go at least 140 mph. What is the point of having a Sport Pkg and a 240 HP 3.5L V-6 only to have it shod with low-grade tires? And there isn't even an option for the automatic buyer to get V-rated tires.
  • fwatsonfwatson Posts: 639
    That is also strange to me. My '01 Millenia "P" also came with V rated tires. And this is a 170HP 2.5liter V-6. I suppose it may be capable of 149 mph, which is the V rated limit. But I can't imagine under what conditions I would have the opportunity to find out. In my opinion, these cars would be better served by installing H rated tires. The Millenia is smooth and quiet with the V's, but would probably be even quieter and smoother with the H's. I would swap for H tires, but would probably lose money in the process. Guess I'll just wait until the V's wear out and change over then.
  • gerapaugerapau Posts: 211
    "Still can't figure out why Nissan puts H-rated tires on the Altima 3.5 SE automatic"

    The simple reason is that 99.99% of buyers don't care, so Nissan probably decided to cut costs. Of the drivers that would care, most will end up buying the manual version anyway. Most buyers will never drive this car above 130 mph let alone sustain that speed for any amount of time. Also, the difference in lower speed performance between the H and V rated tires (if there is any) would be unnoticable to almost everyone.

    "And there isn't even an option for the automatic buyer to get V-rated tires."

    What manufacturer of cars in the same class as the Altima offer V-rated tires as an option? Actually, what manufacturer of cars in the same class even offer tires that are agressive as these so called "low-grade" tires. Remember, this car has been designed to compete with the Accords and Camrys (not the BMWs, Lexuses, MBs, etc...). Even the Maxima GLE, the big brother to the Altima, comes with the same 215/55HR17 tires. Besides, there always is an option; bargain with the dealer when you buy the car to have him install the V-rated tires.
  • My Millenia is a two tone white. gorgoeous car.

    now....back to the Altima!
  • merc1merc1 Posts: 6,081
    I was waiting on someone to touch upon that. I requested a brochure on the Altima via Nissan's web site. What arrived was a large metal can with a perscription bottle type label on it echoing their "cure for the common car" theme by saying to take one a day and all that type of stuff. It would have been a "cute" theme during different times. However my post-office had opened it and put clear tape across the top of the can to keep the brochure from falling out, and I guess so I could see in the can. I guess they inspected it?? The postman brought it to the door himself...and after some very careful looking and shaking the car nut inside finally opened the darned thing.

    Anyway it's a great car, marred only by a somewhat low-rent interior. The first 4-door "looker" Nissan has made in quite, quite some time.

  • riezriez Posts: 2,361
    The Maxima SE and I-35 Sport automatic both use V-rated tires. And in a more aggressive size than even the Altima 3.5 SE manual! Why be cheap with the Sport model of an otherwise high performance sport sedan (i.e., all the Altima 3.5 SEs)? They gave it the better IRS!!! The one Altima 3.5 SE automatic I've seen on a local dealer's lot had an MSRP of about $29,500. It did NOT have all available options. One could go option crazy and have an Altima 3.5 SE with an MSRP over $30,000. So why skimp on tires when you gave it a 240 HP engine and sophisticated rear suspension? Just because someone wants an automatic or can't drive a stick? Whatever happened to the 60s muscle car era when many automatic tranny equipped cars got the extra HP to make up for the performance loss?

    I give buyers of Altima 3.5 SE automatic enough credit to know they aren't getting the "full" car and its capabilities. Nissan will have to speed limit it. I'll have to see if if Toyota does same or not for Camry V-6 SE in regard to speed rating of tires and top speed; it now has a limited Sport Pkg.
  • mrdetailermrdetailer Posts: 1,118
    If you advertize that you're going to compete with the Honda Accord, don't put in a Civic Interior.

    Any Rear Bumper Tests?
  • brad45brad45 Posts: 27
    I am amazed at so many people being so upset about the interior. Mine has no rattles or squeaks and I have not had a single piece come loose or be misaligned. And so what if the grill has plastic in it. ALL GRILLS ARE PLASTIC! That has to be the most ridiculous complaint I have read so far.

    one point on the bumper - check out the Accord Coupe's rear bumper - Looks pretty similar doesn't it. There are lots of cars with close to flush bumpers on the market. Let's wait for the tests before we speculate the worst. My biggest concern with the bumper is how to mount my bike rack.

    Also in general the 2.5S shoppers, me included, seem to be happiest with the Altima. I hope people searching for a car in the $20K range don't get discouraged by the complaints of people shopping for much more expensive cars.
  • brad45brad45 Posts: 27
    A comment was made in an earlier post that a comfortable seating position was not possible without the telescoping wheel. First this is very subjective - I am very comfortable in my car and never use the telescope feature and second, the telescoping wheel is standard on the Altima, at least on 2.5 S and above.
  • I've driven it. First it only comes with an automatic...strike one. Second the car's power plant is the same anemic engine that the last gen Camry V6 carried...strike 2. Third, the Camry SE floats around corners, relaying neither roadfeel or any sense that the car is firmly planted to the ground...strike 3.

    Sure the interior of the Camry SE is nice, but if the trade off is a car with no personality, no power, no stick and zero handling capabilities, well then the car is essentially useless.

    I've yet to drive an Altima SE with a stick. Given my past experience with Nissan, it seems a safe bet that the car will handle well. Plus it's got loads of power AND stick.
  • Certainly not in California!! It is so frustrating to have money in hand, a decent price quote yet no car to be found!!! I am looking for a 3.5SE 5 speed with leather and there is not one anywhere in Southern Cali!! I got a quote of $26,100. for a 3.5SE w/ leather, sunroof & deflector, Bose, spoiler, side sills pkg and microfilter through I received immediate assistance from an affiliated dealer but after checking the system it seems like there are no 5 speed 3.5SE's around with a leather interior. This has been confirmed to me by 4 different dealers in the last 48 hours. I wouldn't mind picking up aftermarket leather (better quality anyway) but I wanted the Auto Temp Control. I definitely do not want to compromise and give up all that 5 speed performance. My salesman said that I could place my order and receive the car in 2 or 3 months built to my specs. 2 or 3 months - NO WAY! What should I do?!
  • oilers1oilers1 Posts: 17
    Has anybody gotten info out of Nissan why this is the case? Anyway, thourouly enjoyed my test drive of a 3.5 auto. Looking for a 5 speed but none available in this area. As for the H rated tires vs V rated, what's the problem? The tires stuck well and will wear better than the V rated ones. Hankook, Cooper and Avon all offer V rated rubber. Does that mean they are better tires than H rated Michelins? No available HID! Now that's an issue...
  • ruskiruski Posts: 1,566
    Bumper that is...
  • ruskiruski Posts: 1,566
    hey, bumper complainers, check this out -
  • Trust me...I looked and looked for a car, settled on one and then couldn't see myself waiting 2-3 months more. I settled on a car I didn't want. I regret that decision.
  • Max -- In answer to your question, yes, my 2.5SL is Velvet Beige.

    In reading these messages I realize I didn't take into consideration dealer mark-up on this car. Don't make the same mistake when you go to buy! Oh well -- I STILL LOVE MY CAR!

    BTW, there is nothing wrong with the interior of this car. To each his own.
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