Infiniti G35 Sedan 2006 and earlier

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  • cheerioboy26cheerioboy26 Member Posts: 412
    i would say silver is most popular, not just b/c I have one though :)

    least popular I think is twilight blue. it was hard to get when it came cancelled for a while, and just recently came back for new orders (might be for 2004 MY)
  • blueguydotcomblueguydotcom Member Posts: 6,249
    twilight blue wasn't unpopular, it was tough to get! there's a huge difference. go to freshalloy and you'll see gobs of people discussing twilight blue. it's one of the few distinctive colors among infiniti's really, really blande pallette.

    I'm waiting for the 04's with diamond graphite (assuming I go G35) because i find all of Infiniti's other colors lack the richness of even BMW or audi's basic solids.
  • sunilbsunilb Member Posts: 407
    of the sedan w/ 6MT... this writer actually preferred the sedan over the coupe! (though, I'm not sure how/why he gets the impression that the shifter is "better" than the coupe)

    http://www.canadiandriver.com/articles/ly/03g356mt.htm
  • cheerioboy26cheerioboy26 Member Posts: 412
    True - sorry for not being clear. By popular, I just meant the number of them on the road. It is popular, but rare. It was my first choice but impossible to get, so I have silver :)
  • msisengmsiseng Member Posts: 369
    Many previous posts list dealerships and test drives. Some good and some bad. I purchased my used '03, Premium, winter, mud flaps, 6,600 miles from a great dealer. Paid 29K which is probably too much, but I "distrust" the dealer LESS than I "distrust" other dealers.

    People are telling me they get new G35s for the same price. Good service, a free Infinity loaner and free car washes are worth everything to me.

    If the dealer will not let you take the vehicle overnight, take a hike and go elsewhere.

    After owning Jaguars for many years (still own them) and obtaining the best customer service possible, I am giving Infinity a try because this is a FUN car to drive. Simply put: this car beats the heck out of some Jaguars and I hope the service is as good. Only time will tell......
  • slummyjslummyj Member Posts: 57
    Has anyone heard when the 04's can be ordered? Any information on new colors. I want to order the car, but the color choices are boring. Audi, BMW and Mercedes seem to offer a bigger color selection. Even if some of the colors are extra cost, at least the choices are there.
  • ryokenryoken Member Posts: 291
    At least it's not as bad as Acura.. where the blue car only has the black interior, and the green car only has the beige interior, and the 4-door doesn't come with a manual tranny.
  • fredmcmurrayfredmcmurray Member Posts: 215
    msiseng - Unfortunately, with an Infiniti, you probably won't have nearly as many opportunities to experience the Infiniti service as you did the Jaguar. ;)
  • ecoeco Member Posts: 23
    In the owner's manual Infiniti lists recommended speeds for shifting under normal and hard acceleration. When I calculated the corresponding engine speeds, here is what I got:

    1->2 1385 2556

    2->3 1695 2608

    3->4 1821 2914

    4->5 1606 2570

    5->6 1489 2248


    It would be logical for me to always shift at the same point, but apparently it is not correct. It is interesting that 3->4 shift is higher in both cases. Can anybody give some explanation for this?
  • robmarchrobmarch Member Posts: 482
    they recommend shifting to 2nd at 1385 rpm? and "hard acceleration" shifts at 2600? Why does their automatic run to redline under hard shifting then?
  • shoeflypieshoeflypie Member Posts: 5
    So have most owners been using regular unleaded or premium? I have an I30 and it 'recommends' premium, but I use regular and it seems to run fine. Thinking about getting a G35, but kind of worried about using the right gasoline and the cost.

    Thanks
  • snagielsnagiel Member Posts: 750
    That can't be right.

    For one thing, those numbers are way too low. Even when accelerating gingerly, I usually shift at 2500 or 3000 rpm. Shifting at 1400 rpm is practically impossible--that's just several hundred rpms above idle speed.

    For another, those numbers are way too precise. Nobody can shift (intentionally) at 2248 rpm. Targeting the nearest 500 rpm mark is close enough.
  • blueguydotcomblueguydotcom Member Posts: 6,249
    Lets see, you spend 35k on a sports sedan. Figuring 15k miles a year at 22mpg we're talking 682 gallons.

    682 gallons X 1.79 a gallon regular = 1221
    682 gallons X 1.99 a gallon premium = 1358

    You lay out only $137 more a year so that your engine will perform at manufacturer's specifications. Isn't that worth your car pulling exactly as the manufacturer suggests? You just spent 35k, so what's another $130?
  • ecoeco Member Posts: 23
    snagiel,

    I simply used the numbers from the manual. I do not have it with me, but if yours is readily available you will find that they recommend shifting at:

    13 26 40 45 53 (normal)
    24 40 64 72 80 (hard)

    The above speeds are in km/h.

    From these numbers, taking into account tire size and transmission ratios, I derived rpm values.
  • manavimanavi Member Posts: 150
    eco,

    I think you screwed up when you derived your RPM values.

    According to the numbers you presented, the engine would be spinning at only 2550 RPM's when doing 24mph in 1st gear. No way.

    By your posts it sounds like you don't have experience driving a manual transmission car and are trying to figure out the textbook way of going about it. Don't worry about looking at the tachometer as you drive. Better to listen to the engine and notice when it starts to sound too raucous. That's when you shift.
  • ecoeco Member Posts: 23
    manavi,

    It is 2556 rpm for 24km/h which is 14.91mph. 24mph is 38km/h and according to my spread sheet it needs about 4100rpm
  • manavimanavi Member Posts: 150
    km/h??? Damn Canucks!

    Just messing with you.

    Why go to all this trouble, though? I mean spreadsheets, conversions, formulas? It kind of takes the emotion out of the driving experience, don't you think? You're supposed to be a driver, not a robot.
  • ecoeco Member Posts: 23
    I guess you can call it professional deformation. I call it engineer's approach to the problem of driving!
  • manavimanavi Member Posts: 150
    Let go of your feelings, Luke. Use the Force.
  • robmarchrobmarch Member Posts: 482
    still, that seems pretty low for a 1-2 shift for "hard driving", right? Especially when the auto will redline the gears on the way up.

    and, the "normal" 40 45 53 km/hr shifts...shifting into 4th at 40km/hr and into 5th at 45 km/hr seems like overkill. and...40km/hr is around 25 mph! Shifting into 4th at 25 mph and into 5th at 28ish mph? wow.
  • stanny1stanny1 Member Posts: 962
    BGDC gave you California gas prices. Unless you live in a state where we now enjoy Premium at the lowest price in months at $2.00 a gallon, your total gas bill probably looks a lot lower.
    In Calif, and especially San Diego, we pay thru the nose for watered down gas that gives us about 10% lower gas mileage. The max octane here is 91.
    SUV drivers often shell out $50.00 and more for a fill up. I could not fill my Lincoln LS two days ago for $30.00!
  • blueguydotcomblueguydotcom Member Posts: 6,249
    True, but the $0.20 a gallon price difference over 682 gallons pretty much holds regardless of area. It's still gonna be around $137 a year. Just when you're over 1200, 1337 doesn't look that bad! $2.50 a week.
  • eticketrideeticketride Member Posts: 53
    I disagree with this price differential...I also live in San Diego and as far as I can remember, we pay quite a bit more than the national average. To give you an idea...today, the national average is about $1.50/gallon for regular. The California average is $1.81/gallon. Realistically, you have to add another 31 cents/gallon to this calculation which is another $211. A total of $348 a year. If $137 a year is no big deal, how about $348?

    Just remember, everyone's money situation is different. Just because you purchase a 35K car doesn't mean that you have extra disposable income to spend on gas. People spend their money on what they feel is important.

    In any event, I really enjoy driving my G35. I have found very little difference between 87 and 91 octane. Regardless of which octane I use, I'm still having fun driving!
    =:-)
  • cjs2002cjs2002 Member Posts: 341
    I'm thinkin of buyin a 03CTS, yet there may be a problem in that they are changin to a new 3.6 engine for the 04 and those should start coming out soon... and I won't be able to buy till August... so if I can't get an 03CTS, I don't think I'll be able to get into a CTS, yet I've seen some G35s and I like their looks so have a question... first I can't drive manual so it has to be an auto... so aproximatly what price can I expect to pay for just a base model with leather....(the 4door sedan...) by the way... thanx
  • fredmcmurrayfredmcmurray Member Posts: 215
    eticketride - But you need to add the $0.31 per gallon to both numbers, so the differential is still around $137.
    I understand people having priorities on how they spend their money but you still have to wonder why someone would spend all that money on one of the world's best sport sedans and then skimp on gas, thereby giving up some of the power that you just paid a lot of money for. Will he also accelerate, brake and corner slowly so as to avoid expensive replacement of tires, brakes and suspension components? If that is how you are going to drive it, you might as well buy an Camry.
  • bigorange30bigorange30 Member Posts: 1,091
    That's less than 1% of the price of the car and less than $30/month or $1/day. Anyone who can afford this priced car has no business complaining about an extra couple a hundred bucks in gas.
  • cdnpinheadcdnpinhead Member Posts: 5,620
    that fuel costs are a much bigger deal to many who lease cars.

    The concept that someone buying a $35K car can afford premium fuel is absolutely correct. However, there is a fraction of the population that leases cars that they couldn't otherwise afford. Many of these folks buy regular.
    '08 Acura TSX, '17 Subaru Forester
  • bigorange30bigorange30 Member Posts: 1,091
    Hard to feel sorry for someone that knowingly gets in over their head.
  • cjs2002cjs2002 Member Posts: 341
    IRK
  • hunter001hunter001 Member Posts: 851
    In LA, premium costs 1.99/gal while regular costs 1.79/gal. The differential between regular and premium is 0.20 cents/gal.

    In Roanoke, VA, premium costs 1.30/gal while regular costs 1.10/gal. The difference here is also 0.20 cents/gal.

    So the above calculation of the $137/year, still holds, whether it is LA or VA.

    Later...AH
  • eticketrideeticketride Member Posts: 53
    Yes, the differential is the same. But my point is that in So. Cal we pay a "premium" price for even "regular" gas. In general, the cost of living is a lot higher(gas, electricity, housing, etc). As you can see from the post by hunter001, you can purchase premium gas in VA for $1.30! Yes, the differential is the same, but I am paying a lot more for a gallon of premium. So I guess my true cost would be the differential plus the inflated cost of gas. Today I paid $1.80/gal for regular (premium was $2.05)...If people have that much disposable income to spend, I will gladly accept a check! (Ha! Ha!)

    I did not buy this car solely for its performance. My primary concern was the huge interior room that the car provides.

    fredmcmurray-Not sure if you own a G35. I did not see it listed in your profile. But as a owner, I will need any extra cash because the brake pads have a very short life. Some people have replaced them at 10,000 miles and even earlier.

    Anyways, don't get me wrong. I love driving my G35. I probably test drove 10-15 vastly different cars. This car gave me a luxury sport sedan with ample interior room for a good price.
  • clpurnellclpurnell Member Posts: 1,083
    since everyone is off talking about gas lol I thought I would answer your question. A plane leather g35 sedan with just atrunk mat should run you about 28.5k a lot less money than any cts and more fun to boot. add sunroof and bose and you are at an even 30k.
  • blueguydotcomblueguydotcom Member Posts: 6,249
    Over on the TSX board we have automatic buyers and dealers telling us not to buy 6 speed cars because you know on trade in 5 years later the car will be worth less money. apparently people here don't have much experience reselling their old cars...it's pretty darn easy. and you make significantly more than you would on 95% of trade-ins.

    BTW, even if a G35 manual will be worth 1k less in 5 years when i get rid of it I don't really care. I saved a grand buying the stick and I had a much better time with the car!
  • fredmcmurrayfredmcmurray Member Posts: 215
    Good point BDCG. Buy what makes you happy and don't fret too much over the resale. Besides, in a true sports sedan (IS300, G35, 330i, Audi S4, and the like), I don't think it will be too hard to find a manual tranny buyer. I would think the TSX is the type of car that would attract MT fans also. In the "near" sports sedan (Maxima, Acura TL, Volvo S60, etc), it might be a little tougher to move an MT.
  • hunter001hunter001 Member Posts: 851
    As long as you can sell it yourself (as opposed to trading it in), an MT should be fine. Buyers of MT cars (even though a dying breed) are still available and for the sportier cars like the G35/3-series etc., it may be easier to find buyers than for cars like Maxima/Accord etc. That is now...who knows what the future will hold !

    Trading it in, the grand you saved while purchasing the MT car, will turn out to be a 2-3000 $ bath, since as I explained in the TSX forum, for a used-car dealer, a manual trans car is an unwanted puppy due to the narrow section of the populace that wants them. That is in the real world. However, if you intend to keep your car for a long time, this is a non-issue.

    Bottomline? You love manuals. A manual is available in the G35 (unlike many other makes that do not even make manuals any more). Buy the manual, since the Automatic is anyway going to make you miserable. Just my 2c.

    Later...AH
  • don725don725 Member Posts: 47
    Hey AH,

    Do you live in Roanoke, Va.? I'm there every week, from Richmond, on business. I haven't seen another G35 out there until last week. I noticed a Black G on Brambleton. I have a Black one as well.

    Don

    Black G35, Premium, Winter, Wood, Nav.
  • peeetepeeete Member Posts: 136
    I have a twilight blue with black leather..and I like the color. I have never seen another one. In fact, I still havent seen many G's and I live in NY Metro. I wonder where they all are ? :)
  • don725don725 Member Posts: 47
    Just curious, has anyone bought a new G35 w/ a working XM satellite button (factory XM module installed)?

    Don
  • stanny1stanny1 Member Posts: 962
    One way to protect yourself on resale value is to lease your Manual.
    My 3 year lease on my Lincoln LS Manual is up on June 30th.
    The resale market for this car is a real dog.
    The LM dealers didn't want to touch these cars when they were new (the biggest dealer in San Diego sold 7 in 2000),so they surely don't want them used. So Ford Motor Credit takes a bath when they get them back as lease returns and wholesale them out.
    Anyway, the MTX's go out at around 15k, which is a good deal for some kid that otherwise could only afford a slower and smaller FWD Civic.
    If I buy the car at residual, I have to pay $17,600. And the LM boys won't lower the residual to $15k.
    So my only option is to hand the car back.
    But I'm protected by the lease, even if the market for the car falls through the bottom.
    And Manuals are a rough ride on resale value, no matter what the brand.
    Would you buy a 3 year old M3? Not without a full mechanical check-out and warranty! These things use oil like gas anyway.
    Actually, leasing a Manual is like grand theft auto anyway. If the lease companies were smart, they would make the Manuals more expensive to lease because of the hit to the lease company.
    As it is, the residuals are similar to the auto trannys as are insurance rates (at least on the Lincoln LS).
  • laterholdenlaterholden Member Posts: 7
    i went to a semi-automatic carwash ive been to a million times, and when exiting, i turned too quick and scraped up my rear drivers-side wheel. Yes the carwash operater should have had a hard plastic guard, but with my luck it had to be metal. I was wondering what i might expect to pay for a new wheel (sedan, standard wheel), if you guys knew where i might be able to find one besides a dealer or ebay. Thanks.
  • jrct9454jrct9454 Member Posts: 2,363
    http://www.stockwheels.com/index.html
    http://www.aaarims.com/index.html

    Plus, there are a lot of sources out there for repairs that will make the wheel look new. Do a Google search for wheel refinishers and see what turns up.
  • blueguydotcomblueguydotcom Member Posts: 6,249
    Have you priced your car out? I'm guessing it's a 2000 V6 manual. Seems to me the trade-in listed only shows a $500 difference between manual and stick.

    Regardless, I can't lease again as I want to own the G35 (or the winner) and I'd prefer to keep the next vehicle for a minimum of 5 years. And if the car turns out to be a dog like my Jetta, i want the ability to part with it easily.
  • hunter001hunter001 Member Posts: 851
    If $17.6k is the lease-end value of the LS Automatics, then applying the same value to the MTX LS by the leasing company, is setting them up for a big money bath at lease-end. The buyer is definitely protected by going the leasing route, as long as he keeps the mileage down to the lease allowance.

    Blueguydotcom, people who list a mere $500 trade-in difference between manuals/automatics, certainly don't seem to be living in the real world. It is sad but true that the Automatics would command around 2-3000 $ more than a corresponding manual at trade-in time, unless it is an ultra-high-performance car like the STi, where a manual is a truly desirable feature that a typical purchaser of such cars would mandatorily want.

    Later...AH
  • hunter001hunter001 Member Posts: 851
    I used to live in Roanoke a while back. Still keep in touch with my friends there. Great place !

    Later...AH
  • stanny1stanny1 Member Posts: 962
    On my 3 year, 45,000 mile lease, every mile over is 15 cents. Cheaper than renting a car, and you can extend the lease for 6 months or so. That would allow me to catch the 04 introduction, if I decide to wait for the new G.
    But I may get a better deal this Summer, if there are any Gs left.
    Many buyers wait for the next year, and I tend to get the leftover "ugly duckling".
    I want the sportiest, lightest, least featured car. I don't care about the upgraded audio, or a sunroof. I have had many sunroofs, I rarely use them, and they all end up with some problem. If something adds weight and complexity, I usually nix it. HID headlights would be nice, but I probably have to get the whole store for those.
    I usually go for the color first (white for SoCal, so I don't have to use the power robbing AC alot)and see what else is on the car.
    Usually, and especially with the Manuals, it's going to be a dealer trade. My LS Manual was made
    in February 2000, and sat on a dealer's lot in LA for months until my dealer in San Diego "found it". Of course, my dealer never stocked manuals, and tried to talk me out of it, saying "Nobody wants a Manual in a luxury car"!
    I told him that I really didn't want the luxury part of it, and that all the manufacturers made me buy a luxury car to get a RWD, 4 door manual.
    It was the same story when I bought the car before that, a 1983 Toyota Cressida with a 5 speed Manual. I had to keep that for 17 years. It had to survive the great FWD plague that swept over autodom from about 1985 to 2000, when BMW was the only 4 door, RWD, manual available.
    I'd probably still have the 4 door Supra if some guy hadn't rear ended me in April, 2000, just in time to lease the only (at that time) 4 dr Manual RWD available besides the more costly and maintainance-prone BMW. In the 80's, BMWs ate water pumps for breakfast.
    The G will be my return to Japanese quality and fewer repair issues.
    I still will have to install a better exhaust system, decent wheels and tires, and the LSD pumpkin from the 350Z.
    Someday, the secret of killing the VDC will be found, and that guy will make a fortune on his new circuit board.
    Then my new G will be just about perfected. Here in California, one can't get too aggressive with engine tweaks because of the smog laws. Because of smog exemptions on pre-1974 cars, there is explosion of interest in these "old" cars. Buy one, restore it, and add dual quads, headers and whatever you want, as long as you can run it on the watered down, overpriced, 91 octane stuff we call gasoline here.
  • bmwdougbmwdoug Member Posts: 248
    Can a G35 be retrofitted with the Infiniti Navigation System? Does an Infiniti dealer have that capability?
  • cjs2002cjs2002 Member Posts: 341
    thanks to the whole one person who provided info... just kiddin... yeah I've been pricing out Altimas originally and for what the dealers were givin me... . I would've been better off getting the CTS or the G35... I can get into a base CTS for about 29... but if I can get into a G35 with leather for about 28 I may go with the G35, the only difference is that I know that the CTS you can use regualar gass and it doesn't harm it a bit... question... is that price of 28 with leather... come with an Automatic... I'm too uncorordinated to do a manual... and don't want one either ... thanx
  • clpurnellclpurnell Member Posts: 1,083
    I went to carsdirect.com and just selected g35 sedan luxury leather invoice was something like 27,9 and you could buy from them for 28.5. this is leather/auto w/xenon headlights.
  • ecoeco Member Posts: 23
    From the owner's manual (page 5-21):

    The VDC system uses a Brake Limited Slip Differential (LSD) system to improve vehicle traction. The brake LSD works when one of the driving wheels is spinning on a slippery surface. The brake LSD system brakes the spinning wheel which distributes the driving power to the other wheel. If the vehicle is operated with the vehicle dynamics control system turned off all VDC and TCS functions will be turned off. The brake LSD system and ABS will still operate with the VDC system off.

    I have believed that traction control is the same as brake LSD, but after reading the above I am not so sure. Can somebody explain me the difference?
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