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if selling at msrp, the dealer is probably selling at an average of 10% or so above their invoice. he (or she) then gets the 1% holdback for a total MARGIN of about 11%. that's about $3000 on a $27K invoice, calculated as "sale-price less invoice".
but, out of that, they have to pay all sg&a costs (salaries & commissions, marketting, overhead, cost-of-carry, etc). that can drop the 11% pretty fast, especially if the dealership offers nice amenities and a big selection. so, the dealer probably does get 6-7% PROFIT, despite having an 11-12% MARGIN.
that's why dealers will often deal more on a build-unit or an incoming vehicle - they have fewer sunk costs to recover. it actually works in their favor if they get volume-based allocations. they order, sell, and order again, all without having to finance, adverstise or maintain. sweet!
just a thought.
In Massachusetts, it's illegal anyway.
Take care.
Joe W.
-juice
if not, then things are priced relativly high there.
if they are, then since the salaries are the same it seems a little strange to me that the g is so much cheaper in canada.
if nafta and free trade go all the way then a canadian and an american would be equally able to purchase a car in either country without having warranty issues. and in that case the prices would become nearly equal. american prices would come down or canadian prices would go up, or some combination thereof.
i find the situation a little strange and surprising.
but, it isn't that important.
nonetheless, if you ever make it to l.a. i wouldn't mind talking about economics and trading cars for a day or two.
BTW, why are people so freaky about their credit and pre-quals? Good grief, getting a credit check is not a bad thing and it won't hurt you when it comes time to get a house, car, etc. It's simply taking a look at your scores. Eek! I think it's a darn good idea for all dealerships to pre-qual if he doesn't have cash before allowing people to test drive. Why take someone on a test drive if he (or his parents, benefactors, etc) can't afford the car?
Test drive today!
As far as NAFTA goes, NAFTA only applies to goods produced in Canada, USA and Mexico, not third party goods transiting either of the 3 countries. So an Acura produced in the USA would be duty free coming to Canada as would a Camaro produced in Canada going to the USA. But the G35 produced in Japan would still attract duty in the USA if it came to you by way of Canada.
The big issue is the state of our dollar as compared to the US $.
For an American car shopping in Canada is a score using your powerfull dollar, but for us Canadians buying here in Canada that G still costs us about $15,000.00 more than you.
I know it's silly but I made a promise to myself, in my more idealistic college days, never to buy a car that didn't make 20mpg in the city cycle.
-juice
BTw, this dogged insistance on 20 mpg city essentially negates getting a real sports car or real performance luxury car one day. No M5 or 911 turbo...what's the point of living then?
Can you please get some pictures of the blue one when you go for your test drive and then post them? Thanks.
What's up w/ Infiniti??
Certainly not! I'm after the 260HP, then any BMW within a 3 block radius. Man this is going to be fun! I'm after the power and handling my G-20t wishes it had. My G-20t is fun as hect to drive, but only if your willing to wind it up to about 6500 each gear. Handling is great, so I can't wait to get ahold of the G35.
Mine will have the sports susp and prem pkg in Brilliant Silver. Shooting for $31.5K + tax, title, etc
That must be the understatement of the year!! I see you're a man of few words. Succinct and to the point!! (If you read the last 1000 or so posts, you'll see what I mean.). LOL :-)
I never said the G35 pricing wasnt fair,however i think it would be easier if the employees were paid a fair salary as apposed to commmision or spifs.
That all said, you dont see us looking up invoice prices on Diamonds which has probably the highest markup of any product there is.
DL
Oddly, still several thousand over what the TL-S is going for around here. I keep hearing how much cheaper the G35 is, but once you add the sunroof, premium package (memory seats, homelink, etc), HID headlights, you eat up more than the $3k savings that are supposed to be there. At least, if you want to compare the cars on an equal basis. I'll have to see what I think of the G35. I also drove a used '00 Audi S4 with 12k miles on it that I found unimpressive. Some people go on about those like I've been hearing about the G35. At this rate, I'll just end up keeping my Z32.
Scott
A G35 as I want it: sports suspension, leather and moonroof is only a touch over 31k. Figure in a few months I should be able to get one for about 28-29k.
Gabman
and, as you said, the bottom line is the exchange rate.
but, however you cut it, the G is being sold for MUCH less in canada than in the united states.
the question is NOT, is this true?
the question is, WHY?
i'm not buying a G, got a new car recently, but i find the price difference interesting.
Ernie (650)369-4000
I called last week, and was told that they would not be out before April. I am guessing the rep simply pulled a date out of his head. If the car is formally being introduced today (3/11/02), then Infiniti better have stacks of those brochures ready to be mailed for all inquiries that may come in.
If they don't, then Infiniti deserves to lose any potential sales for their lack of coordination. What kind of amatuer operation are they running if they do not have sales brochures available until a full month AFTER the car sales begin?
I work in Canada , I get paid $ 1.00 a day. In order to buy a G35 I have to work for 42,000 days.
You work in the USA and get paid the same $1.00 a day for you to get a G35 you must work 34,000 days (If I have the us price right).
Kapeesh?
Now get this because it gets tricky, Infiniti Canada has a big operation here in Canada, they have overhead,tons of staff and expenses. They pay all their expenses and their payroll, marketing costs, rent, advertising costs etc etc.. in Canadian dollars. Are you getting it yet?
Now if you come to work for me and I pay you the same $1.00 a day in Canadian dollars because you would be living here , do you get a G35 after working 42,000 days or 34,000 days.
If you still do not understand, that is why I am not a teacher by profession. So lets talk cars and not ecomomics.
For example, if I make $100K in the U.S. for job A, I can expect to make $100K in Canadian dollars for the same job A in Canada, but of course, this salary is now only worth $63K U.S. dollars, right?