Sanjaba, I am looking at a 2004 I35. In message 101 you stated you paid before tax $26,761 including the cold weather package. According to Edmunds, the invoice for that car was $28,907. How were you able to get the car for less than the invoice? Just looking for advice on buying a 2004 I35.
I've been working with two dealers here in Minneapolis to purchase a 2004 I35. The lowest price I've gotten so far is about $27,400. A dealer in Texas gave me a quote of $26,995. This is for an I35 with just the cold-weather package.
During March, there is a $2000 marketing support rebate to the dealers (according to Edmunds), so they have a lot of room to go below invoice. I'm optimistic that I'll be able to get a local price very near $27K.
Please keep us informed as to what you find out. I show that the invoice on your vehicle is 28,907 which includes the 590 destination charge. 27K would be 1900 below invoice and that is a very good deal but let us know what you find. Welcome to Edmund's Town Hall. I see that you are a new member.
You mentioned in your message#112 that you got a quote for $26,995 with the cold weather pkg in Dallas area. Which dealership is that? The best I am getting is $28,800 from the Dallas dealerships. Thank you.
I am shocked and disappointed. You may not of thought of this or even noticed or heard. I am alerting everyone. Stereo separation is poor in the I35. Compare to other cars much cheaper and see if they have better or superior separation of sound. I found this! In other cars, I hear sounds on the left, on the right and in the center. This is what stereo means. Separation of sound. The I35 does not have good separation. It has poor separation. It has full sound but poor separation of sound. An inferior system. I did not get what I paid for! Please describe your experience. See if you agree. Spread the message. Thanks.
Bergerbits, this discussion is specifically focused on the price paid along with the experience of actually acquiring the car. Why don't you use the drop down menu on the left side of the page to look up other I35 discussions and post your message in one that would be more appropriate.
Yes the prices in message 101 is what I paid for just a month back when I got my car. You can get the same price by calling the following numbers 516-536 9000 ( Ext-139) or 516- 889 4157. Good luck.
To follow up my post #112. I was able to purchase a 2004 I35 with cold weather package for $27,000 + tax and title. I bought this at Jim Lupients in Golden Valley. The best price I could get at the Bloomington dealership was $27,375.
Can anyone in the greater Chicago area tell me what, if any, prices were advertised in the Sunday's Tribune? The I35 is just not advertised much. Can one get an I35 in the Chicago area for around 27K?
In Columbus, OH the advertised price is $26,995. This looks the same as what they are selling for in Mpls-St.Paul. Found it a little unusual that they did not have any I35's at the Columbus Auto Show which concluded this weekend. Would seem, to me anyway, like they would at least want to feature them to the extent that they would want to generate enough interest to sell off their inventories! I think the I35 is a nice looking car and with $5K off of MSRP seems like a pretty good deal.
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I JUST BOUGHT A 2004 I 35 loaded for 26,795. The retail list was 31,300and list price was 28,200. The dealership also had 2.9% loan for 60 months. The vehicle doesnot have the cold weather package or the navigation system.The deal was so good that in the time I was in the dealership they sold 8 additional I 35s at the sale price listed in the news paper of 26,795.
Last week I bought my wife a 2004 I35 for $26.950. It is Golden Sand with matching interior. The retail list was $31300 and we took the 36 month financing at 1.9% After the first 500 miles we love it. We traded a 2002 Nissan Maxima in so we are familiar with the product. This is our 3rd Nissan Product and they have all been great.
I do not believe there is a lot of difference between the 02 Max and the 04 I35, particularly if you have the Max GLE. It looks like Infiniti is selling the I35s at or close to the same price as what I paid for my 03 GLE (mine was $3500 off MSRP).
Congrats on your new purchase. I like my 03 Max, which now has 7500 miles after 18 months. I also have a 97 Max GLE and a 92 Max GXE, all of which have been very reliable.
Yes, i agree the max and infiniti is the same car. I think the Infiniti salesman did a better job. He gave me (A) NO HIGH PRESSURE SALES PITCH (B) OFFERED ME 1.9% FINANCING (C) HAD ME CONSIDER WARRANTY 4 YEAR 60K vs 3 YEAR 36K (D) EVERY PRICE QUOTE GIVEN WAS OUT THE DOOR PRICE
Other than that, both Infiniti and Maximas are very nice cars
My husband and I are getting ready to buy a 2004 I35 in the Dallas/Ft. Worth area within the next few weeks. The dealer is supposed to send me quotes in the next few days and hopefully I can get a good deal like some of the rest of you. I'm curious though whether I should wait until the 2005's come out so I can get a better deal. Does anyone know when they will be out, if they even going to be making a 2005 I35 or if it will have a different body style? I can't seem to find any info on this and want to get the best deal possible since I'm buying this car using money that I just inherited following my mother's death. Thanks to all!
It is my understanding that the 2004 I35 is done at the end of this 2004 model year. You could verify this with your auto dealer. For your information I believe there is a $2000 manufacturer-to-dealer incentive. Please keep in mind that this is not exactly the same as a manufacturer rebate. I have considered this vehicle also but I have found some negatives. The ride is not up to par with some other good mid-sized vehicles like the Camry, and ES330, especially on less-than-perfect roads. Insurance for some reason is higher (25%) on this vehicle than the others. The engine has more horsepower than others and that could explain the higher cost of insurance. Gas mileage also is not the best because of the size of the engine. Please check with your insurance agent to see if the I35 is higher than the Camry or ES330. In many respects the I35 is a great car. Dependability has been outstanding according to "Consumer Reports". I hope this helps.
I talked to the dealer today who confirmed what you said. I also checked the insurance and it is slightly higher than the ES330. I was all set to buy the ES330 until I started reading about all the problems everyone is having with their transmissions. Look on the Lexus board in the Town Hall. I read it in other places too. The problem started with the 02' models and has never been fixed. The company even sent all 02 and 03 owners a letter acknowledging the problem and said they were going to come up with a software fix but the fix seems to make the problem worse according to some. So, now I don't know what to do. I like the I35 but I'm concerned about buying a car that is going out of production. Tomorrow I'm going to go test drive the G35 and the Acura TL. I was looking for a car with a smooth, quite ride. Hope one of them has it. Thanks again for the info.
I just looked at an Infiniti I35 with an MSRP of $32,030. The "invoice" price for this vehicle is $29,015. The dealer offered to sell the car to me for $29,500. After reviewing Consumer Reports and Edmunds, I've determined there is a dealer holdback of $860 on this car plus $2,000 marketing support. So in actuality the dealer wholesale price for this car is $26,155. I believe a 3% profit over wholesale invoice is fair. Therefore, I'm considering a counteroffer of $26,939. Do you think this is fair?
And not a penny more as the I35 is in it's last model year, being replaced with the 2005 M35 (RWD V-6) and M45 (RWD V-8).
It's a pretty strong bargain (imo) at that price, especially conpared to what else is available in the mid size, entry level luxury vehicles.
Your resale value will be lower as it is the last model year for that model but if you plan on driving it for a few years, it shouldn't hurt you too much financially (compared to any other new car purchase).
Now if your used to getting a new car every three years or so, you may want to consider another make/model or wait a while longer for the M35.
So you think my offer is fair or ridiculously low? I keep my cars for a long time. I'm currently driving an 89 Camry! I've been on the fence about buying this car versus the Avalon XLS. Right now, the price incentives make the Infiniti I35 a more attractive purchase. I'm trying to balance short vs. long-term value. Any thoughts on which ultimately is the better buy is appreciated.
I think your calculation of the offer price is fair (but thenI'm not an Infiniti sales person).
IMO, the Avalon is no where near the vehicle that the I35 is even though it is a Toyota. It was a really smooth highway cruiser but around town felt just ponderous in handling and general manuevering.
I shopped carefully about a year and a half ago for a new vehicle that was at least mid-size and could tow 2,000 lbs. Drove just about everything that could tow 2,000 lbs or better including the Avalon.
I ended up buying a Nissan Murano. Crossover utility size, higher seating position and proven engine in the 3.5 liter powerplant.
I still like the I35 and am very interested in buying a M35-M45 when they come out if they can keep the quality and performance as high as they have on the G35 and FX models.
Thanks. I'm trying to make a reasonable offer. I've noticed discrepancies in the base price of this model. Some sites say $28,150 (i.e., Edmunds.com, carsdirect.com, cars.com). Others say $27,713 (kbb.com, intellichoice.com, nadaguides.com, consumerguide.com, automobiles.com). Some websites have the base invoice as low as $26,360. It's confusing as I want to work with the right number and not submit an offer based on out-of-date figures.
It's been my experience that a lot of the confusion you see in pricing seems to be caused by some web sites ignoring the transportation fee (which is legitimate and is on the window sticker as well as the invoice) while other include it.
I've always had pretty good luck with invoice and msrp figures matching up to what I see elsewhere by using digitalcars.com /compare and research/new car pricing/infiniti/I35/ This site also has all of the options listed (port and factory) with both msrp and invoice.
I think it's invoice is $26,360 + transportation fee of $545 for a total invoice to dealer of $26,905.
Looks like there is a difference of about $2k in your invoice prices. I don't know which one is right, but it seems $27k is more like it. It Infiniti is giving a $2k "marketing support", I would not offer anything more than $26k (assuming it is fully loaded). At that price, it is a great bargin, considering my fully-loaded 03 Max GLE (w/o nav) was about $26.5k.
I just bought an '04 I35. The MSRP was $32,030 and the invoice was $29,015. I then had the $2000 dealer incentive tossed in. I paid $29,100 for it. I was quite pleased as the negotiations were brutal over my trade-in allowance (an '03 Chevy Avalanche).
Sorry... I paid $27,100 (not the $29,100 for it. $29,100 - $2000 = $27,100).
This did not include taxes. I live in Nebraska, and that is paid at the time of registration. Actually I don't have to pay Sales Tax due to my trade-in being worth more than the I35. Licensing (etc) will run me about $500.
I wish that I had a chance at a half-decent deal from my local dealership. The story ... I shopped around and decided that I wanted an 2004 I35, the salesperson was very friendly etc. I went in to see if we could reach a deal and man did they pull out all the stunts. Because of the $2000 marketing incentive, they were willing to give me a sales price of $500 below MSRP! I replied that this was a terrible deal. How about we start at invoice price minus $2000 and decide how much profit over this you'll receive. Time dragged on, the salesperson, then a couple sales managers talked and talked about how the MSRP minus $500 was a great deal and I wouldn't find any better. Being intelligent, I said "I'm leaving". Then they tried the old "we're trying to locate the keys to your trade-in" in order to keep me just where I was. They continued jabbering at me so I had to actually tell them to get me the keys to my car or I'd call the police. Yes, they did get miraculously found. Wow, is this an Infiniti or this dealership cultural problem? Anyways, I can't imagine ever considering an Infiniti again.
Cerebus, I think it is more likely the particular dealership you dealt with rather than the entire Infiniti "industry". I remember visiting several Infiniti dealerships before buying my 03 Max GLE, and those dealerships were quite decent.
On the other hand, an Acura dealership tried to play the same game (that you encountered) when I was shopping for an RL which, at that time, had a $4k customer incentive, making the RL (with Nav) a $37k car (not bad). But that dealership did not mention or acknowledge the incentive, and instead told me that $2k off MSRP was a good price.
Moreover, I would never talk about trade in (or even mention that I might have a trade in) until I finalize negotiations on the new car. In that way, I make sure I get a good price for the new car first and leaving myself an open option for negotiating the trade in later.
Also, don't fall in the trap of giving a dealer your driver license or credit card before a test drive. They might just make your life more difficult when you try to walk away.
"$27,100: Is the Navigation system and heated seats included in this price?"
It includes the "Winter Package" which has Heated Seats, Mirrors, and Steering Wheel. It does not include the Navigation Pkg. The original invoice on it was $29,100, and then I got the $2000 Dealer Cash subtracted from that (making it $27,100). Still all in all, a pretty good deal for Omaha, NE (NE has only 1 Infiniti Dealership).
The invoice on it was $29,100. you can verify that on Edmunds.com or KBB.com. Then as I said, I got another $2000 off due to the Dealer Cash incentive going on. I didn't finace my car, as I was trading in an '03 Avalanche. As it was, I walked out of the Dealership with a nice little check in my pocket.
Although I will very likely go with an Accord EX-V6, it seems the I35 has fallen near the same price. A local dealer is advertising I35s with the cold weather package for $25.8. An '04 Accord will likely be around $23K and an '05 around $24.5.
I test drove a Maxima GLE last year and although I wasn't disappointed, I found it no better than the Accord. I don't imagine an I35 will be much different. I prefer the int/ext color combos in the I35. Even though the Accord is not a "luxury" car, it essentially has all the amenities the I35 has, with each having some the other does not. I really don't care about snob appeal or the difference in warranties as both are extremely good vehicles.
Wow. A new I35 (with cold weather package) for $25.8K is $1K below invoice (when also adding in the $2K Dealer cash). The Dealer must be tossing in his holdback to clear them out. Personally I'd jump on that. I love my I35, and yes I did test drive a Honda EX-V6...
2004 I35 Cold Weather Pkg Satellite Radio Cargo mat and flaps Desert Platinum
26,500 + 295 processing (waived dest.) +TTL Obviously they are trying to move these and it probably helped it was the end of the month. We were really stuck in deciding between this and the Accord EX V6. Although the Accord is not generally considered in the same class as the I35, I think they were very competitive. But we like the looks of the I35, it's bigger, and less common.
This was at Passport Nissan in Alexandria, VA. Good buying experience.
I'v enever had a sales experience like this: No pressure, no gimmicks and no hassle. I purchased a new (not a demo)2004 Infiniti I35 with Cold Weather package. I bought it for the unbelievable price of $27,548.00 (tax,tags, destination fee and processing fee included)out the door. Rosenthal Infiniti wanted $28,000 for the same car(tax+dest fee excluded)
I was offered the 2004 G35 with Premium package for $26.540 (tax and destination fee not included). I was tempted but I decided on the I35 since I need the extra room that the I35 offers. I also testdrove and looked at the Acura TL. The tranny on the TL slipped on me while on the highway. I loved the sound system in the '05 TL. Karen Radley Acura wanted $30,699.00 (tax+dest fee excluded)for the car. Pohanka wanted $29,900.
Sounds like you did as well, or better, than I did at Passport. If I waited a couple days, I could have taken advantage of the 2.9/6yr financing. I guess hindsight is 20/20. We've been really happy so far - at least my wife has, I've hardly been able to drive it. I hope my earlier post helped with your deal, this board asn't been too active price wise.
I didn't realize you can get a G35 that cheap. I hadn't really looked at them, sat in one the day we picked up our I35 and really liked it. However, I think it was a 2005. I don't know what people are saying about cheap interiors in the G, this one was very nice inside - but, again, it may have been a 2005. We still would have got the I35 for the FWD in the winter.
Thanx..I think I got a good deal too, even though I didn't get the Satellite radio package this car cost me far less than a smaller and less powerfull 2004 Acura TL I testdrove.
The following cars were on my shortlist: 2004 Acura TL, 2005 Subaru Outback sedan, Honda Accord EX V6 with Nav and Sat Radio, 2005 Ford 500, 2004 Infiniti I35. I testdrove all these cars and the '04 I35, the '05 Subaru Outback Sedan, and the '05 Ford 500 were my favorites. Even though the editor talks about lack of horsepower in the Ford 500, I didn't really notice any of it during my testdrive. The car was pretty powerfull with the 3.0 L Duratech engine. The Subaru felt and handled like a BMW 530. The I35 became my best pick because it was more car for the money and since it was FWD it would most likely handle the snow better than a RWD G35.
You might still be able to get the 2004 G35 with Premium Package for that cheap price. They had a bunch of them in stock two weeks ago. I dunno about now. I was under the impression that they're trying to move their old stock and make space for the 2005 models. Rosenthal had offered me a 2004 G35x (AWD) for around $30K. That's just the base model for the G35x
Is any body out there purchased an I-35 recently? If so, what is your final price? A dealer in St. Louis area is asking 27K for I-35 without navigation or weather package. Is this a good price?
Gsk, I got I-35 2004 with heated seats for 26.9K (with 2.9% APR)in NJ without negotiation in September. I think now you can reduce it by a few hundred dollars, say, 26.5K. Car is great, but 27K with heated seats sounds like upper limit to me...
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During March, there is a $2000 marketing support rebate to the dealers (according to Edmunds), so they have a lot of room to go below invoice. I'm optimistic that I'll be able to get a local price very near $27K.
Welcome to Edmund's Town Hall. I see that you are a new member.
You mentioned in your message#112 that you got a quote for $26,995 with the cold weather pkg in Dallas area. Which dealership is that? The best I am getting is $28,800 from the Dallas dealerships. Thank you.
Drop me an email if you need help finding one.
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$25,158 + TTL = $27,499 OTD, 3.95% 60 mos
After the first 500 miles we love it. We traded a 2002 Nissan Maxima in so we are familiar with the product. This is our 3rd Nissan Product and they have all been great.
Congrats on your new purchase. I like my 03 Max, which now has 7500 miles after 18 months. I also have a 97 Max GLE and a 92 Max GXE, all of which have been very reliable.
He gave me (A) NO HIGH PRESSURE SALES PITCH
(B) OFFERED ME 1.9% FINANCING
(C) HAD ME CONSIDER WARRANTY 4 YEAR 60K vs 3 YEAR 36K
(D) EVERY PRICE QUOTE GIVEN WAS OUT THE DOOR PRICE
Other than that, both Infiniti and Maximas are very nice cars
It's a pretty strong bargain (imo) at that price, especially conpared to what else is available in the mid size, entry level luxury vehicles.
Your resale value will be lower as it is the last model year for that model but if you plan on driving it for a few years, it shouldn't hurt you too much financially (compared to any other new car purchase).
Now if your used to getting a new car every three years or so, you may want to consider another make/model or wait a while longer for the M35.
IMO, the Avalon is no where near the vehicle that the I35 is even though it is a Toyota. It was a really smooth highway cruiser but around town felt just ponderous in handling and general manuevering.
I shopped carefully about a year and a half ago for a new vehicle that was at least mid-size and could tow 2,000 lbs. Drove just about everything that could tow 2,000 lbs or better including the Avalon.
I ended up buying a Nissan Murano. Crossover utility size, higher seating position and proven engine in the 3.5 liter powerplant.
I still like the I35 and am very interested in buying a M35-M45 when they come out if they can keep the quality and performance as high as they have on the G35 and FX models.
I've always had pretty good luck with invoice and msrp figures matching up to what I see elsewhere by using digitalcars.com /compare and research/new car pricing/infiniti/I35/ This site also has all of the options listed (port and factory) with both msrp and invoice.
I think it's invoice is $26,360 + transportation fee of $545 for a total invoice to dealer of $26,905.
This did not include taxes. I live in Nebraska, and that is paid at the time of registration. Actually I don't have to pay Sales Tax due to my trade-in being worth more than the I35. Licensing (etc) will run me about $500.
On the other hand, an Acura dealership tried to play the same game (that you encountered) when I was shopping for an RL which, at that time, had a $4k customer incentive, making the RL (with Nav) a $37k car (not bad). But that dealership did not mention or acknowledge the incentive, and instead told me that $2k off MSRP was a good price.
Moreover, I would never talk about trade in (or even mention that I might have a trade in) until I finalize negotiations on the new car. In that way, I make sure I get a good price for the new car first and leaving myself an open option for negotiating the trade in later.
Also, don't fall in the trap of giving a dealer your driver license or credit card before a test drive. They might just make your life more difficult when you try to walk away.
It includes the "Winter Package" which has Heated Seats, Mirrors, and Steering Wheel. It does not include the Navigation Pkg. The original invoice on it was $29,100, and then I got the $2000 Dealer Cash subtracted from that (making it $27,100). Still all in all, a pretty good deal for Omaha, NE (NE has only 1 Infiniti Dealership).
I test drove a Maxima GLE last year and although I wasn't disappointed, I found it no better than the Accord. I don't imagine an I35 will be much different. I prefer the int/ext color combos in the I35. Even though the Accord is not a "luxury" car, it essentially has all the amenities the I35 has, with each having some the other does not. I really don't care about snob appeal or the difference in warranties as both are extremely good vehicles.
Anybody cross-shop an I35 and Accord EX?
Cold Weather Pkg
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Cargo mat and flaps
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26,500 + 295 processing (waived dest.) +TTL
Obviously they are trying to move these and it probably helped it was the end of the month. We were really stuck in deciding between this and the Accord EX V6. Although the Accord is not generally considered in the same class as the I35, I think they were very competitive. But we like the looks of the I35, it's bigger, and less common.
This was at Passport Nissan in Alexandria, VA. Good buying experience.
I purchased a new (not a demo)2004 Infiniti I35 with Cold Weather package. I bought it for the unbelievable price of $27,548.00 (tax,tags, destination fee and processing fee included)out the door.
Rosenthal Infiniti wanted $28,000 for the same car(tax+dest fee excluded)
I was offered the 2004 G35 with Premium package for $26.540 (tax and destination fee not included). I was tempted but I decided on the I35 since I need the extra room that the I35 offers. I also testdrove and looked at the Acura TL. The tranny on the TL slipped on me while on the highway. I loved the sound system in the '05 TL. Karen Radley Acura wanted $30,699.00 (tax+dest fee excluded)for the car. Pohanka wanted $29,900.
I didn't realize you can get a G35 that cheap. I hadn't really looked at them, sat in one the day we picked up our I35 and really liked it. However, I think it was a 2005. I don't know what people are saying about cheap interiors in the G, this one was very nice inside - but, again, it may have been a 2005. We still would have got the I35 for the FWD in the winter.
Congratulations.
The following cars were on my shortlist:
2004 Acura TL, 2005 Subaru Outback sedan, Honda Accord EX V6 with Nav and Sat Radio, 2005 Ford 500, 2004 Infiniti I35. I testdrove all these cars and the '04 I35, the '05 Subaru Outback Sedan, and the '05 Ford 500 were my favorites. Even though the editor talks about lack of horsepower in the Ford 500, I didn't really notice any of it during my testdrive. The car was pretty powerfull with the 3.0 L Duratech engine. The Subaru felt and handled like a BMW 530. The I35 became my best pick because it was more car for the money and since it was FWD it would most likely handle the snow better than a RWD G35.
You might still be able to get the 2004 G35 with Premium Package for that cheap price. They had a bunch of them in stock two weeks ago. I dunno about now. I was under the impression that they're trying to move their old stock and make space for the 2005 models.
Rosenthal had offered me a 2004 G35x (AWD) for around $30K. That's just the base model for the G35x