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Ford Expedition Maintenance and Repair



  • nvbankernvbanker Posts: 7,285
    Oooh..... Then it must be the guage itself?
  • wijocowijoco Posts: 462
    What I mean is, the dealer has confirmed that your problem is an item covered under your warranty? If so, then the next thing to do is make sure that your concern is recorded somewhere by the dealer, even if he can't fix it right now. Reason being, Ford may drag their feet on the fix until your warranty runs out. If you have documentation showing that you brought your concern in while under warranty, they will still be obligated to fix it whenever they figure it out.
  • That's true, but in my case they still might decide to just "Oh well, we're not fixing it anyway."
    I have the "brake dust" problem in documented in writing from the dealer and also from Ford.

    All they did is re-name the previously described "excessive" brake dust. It's now called normal- thus- poof!- no problem!
  • cat3126cat3126 Posts: 43
    I scan into my PC all service work orders.The local Ford dealer is well aware of my record keeping.I have owned three Expeditions and a couple other Fords.BTW a couple of weeks ago they replaced my front brake pads with no argument under a TSB on brake dust.
  • nvbankernvbanker Posts: 7,285
    Well, I'm going to try that brake dust thing again next time I go in. Last time they blew me off, but I didn't mind so much, because I'd like to get new free brake pads with a little more mileage on the truck.
  • jeff88jeff88 Posts: 94
    Have recently decided to replace the '95 explorer eb with an '04 expedition eb. Have done a bit of research and also test driving and have the expedition eb just slightly ahead of the sequioa ltd.

    How do you like your eb's at highway speeds?

    on unimproved roads?

    in the mountains?

    should I get the extended warranty?

    how does the stereo sound?

    am getting it at edmund's dealer invoice minus a few hundred bucks. It's a good 3k+ under the best deal I can up with on the sequoia. it also has quite bit more in terms of functionality and features. we typically keep our cars 8 to 10 years and want to know what others may think of the long term feasability of the eb v the toyota ltd. Our '95 explorer has been very reliable and trouble free. it's just too small for what we need now. it could easily go another 50k.
  • nvbankernvbanker Posts: 7,285
    My opinion is biased, as I strongly dislike the Sequoia that you're comparing it to. I like the Expedition much better from about all fronts. Much more power, more size, much nicer looking, IMO, more features, and very dependable in my experience. Now, the Sequoia is a good truck, no question. I have no beef with their competency. They just have no soul or style for me.
  • Some one told me that if you complain about a high pitched brake squeal, or noise, they will replace the pads with the "improved" ones.

    If you complain about the dust they will blow you off. And tell you it's normal. I was shown a Ford document that suggests the dealer sell you some wheel cleaner and tell you to wash your truck more often.
    Nice fix.
  • mikewmikew Posts: 7

    I purchased a 04 EB expedition last month and just noticed a blower noise from the front climate controlled seats when they are being heated. Is this normal?

    I hadn't noticed this before but it may be because the radio is usually turned up when I'm driving.

    Other than the excessive brake dust I really like the vehicle.

  • zman3zman3 Posts: 857
    Yes, the climate controlled seats use a fan to distribute the heated/cooled air. You can and will hear it.

  • nvbankernvbanker Posts: 7,285
    And they are WONDERFUL, by the way!
  • I bought my 04 XLT 3 weeks ago and after 1000 miles (2 1/2 weeks) a very high pitched chirping noise (best way to describe) is coming from the right side of my vehicle. I can not figure out where it is coming from, whether it is inside or outside.

    Sometimes it is very faint and at other times it gets loud enough that the high pitched tone is enough to give anyone a very quick headache.

    Have not called the dealership yet to make an appointment. Wanted to try and figure out where it was coming from first - hoping that when I take it in I would cut down on the amount of time that they would have my vehicle.

    Any ideas?? Has anyone else experienced this noise?
  • I'm on my 4th EB Expid. & I finally got a lemon! It's a 2004 EB loaded. Bought 12/30/03. Began leaking from the rear differential in the 1st 2 weeks. Seals replaced. Leak continued. New rear end per Ford. Still leaked! Ford says there's an engineering problem and it will take at least 60 days for a solution. New seals again on 3/8. On 3/14 Advtrac failed causing the vehicles brakes to fail. Luckily no accident. Dealer found a code and, again, Ford acknowledged a problem with no solution. Filed a complaint with NHTSA.
    If you have Advtrac option beware of anti lock activation without cause.
    Anyone else having these problems???
    Other than this it's a great car!!!
  • I'm also getting the very high pitched noise coming from the right side of the vehicle, if anybody had this problem and got it fixed, let us know.

  • tourguidetourguide Posts: 190

    My father-in-law has had this very same problem with his 03 Explorer Limited which has Advance Track too.

    His symptom was that he was driving along (on DRY pavement) and he goes to step on the brake and WHAM, the ABS engages and starts HAMMERING the breaks. He lets off the brake and it stops. He trys to hit the break again, and WHAM same thing - ABS starts hammering the breaks.

    He pulls over, shuts the car off, turns it back on, goes to take off and WHAM it happens again. He pulls over, turns the thing off and when he starts it up again it stops. Hasn't happened again since then. He says he is worried about when it'll happen again. I know I would be too.

    This sounds like some kind of hardware/software problem that was never fully ironed out. Whenever you put the computer in charge of braking and stability you'd better not cheese out on hardware and software engineering. I'd bet anything this is some $5 part causing havoc and saving Ford $10 per unit.

    Makes me nervous. If I'm paying $38K for a vehicle it better dang well be quality.
  • Have your father-in-law take the vehicle in and have the codes read. Mine showed a "1986"code which means that the ABS activated for greater than 15 seconds. It then showed a "1998" code which was a calibration error. The tech ran an "Oasis" and called their hotline. The hotline acknowledged 1 other reported incident of this and told the tech to clear the computer and re initialize the car's system (removing codes). The Ford regional engineer is suppose to be reviewing the matter. I'm beginning not to trust this car!!!
    Good Luck!!!
  • khagerkhager Posts: 15
    I am getting ready to buy a new expedition and I really like the red but I am leaning towards white, because I had a red bronco II in 1987 that oxidized after a few years. My question to red expedition owners. How has the paint held up? Are the fading red and silver paint jobs a thing of the past or is it still a problem? I live in Texas by the way a lot of hot summer sunshine!!! Thanks for the replies.

  • tourguidetourguide Posts: 190
    Unfortunately paint fading is not a thing of the past. Even with modern clearcoat paints there will still be some color fading over time. The effect will be more pronounced if you let the vehicle sit in the sun every day.

    You can prevent most or all of this however if you go to Ziebart and get their annual clearcoat/UV protection applied. It's like $120 or something the first time they do it, then it's like $90 each year to renew and reapply the finish. I have a friend who has this service on their 90 conversion van and the thing looks like they just drove it off the lot.

    Nothing else I know of can prevent this problem. Perhaps someone else knows of another way to prevent fading.

    I'm looking at the red EB too, but if they offered that dark blue, I'd jump on that in a second. The Wedgewood just doesn't do it for me. It almost looks like a pre-faded color.
  • nvbankernvbanker Posts: 7,285
    I also live in the South and Southwest, plenty of sun, and have not found today's Reds to fade much, if they are hand waxed twice a year. The product mentioned above may be best, haven't heard of it before, but the secret is to keep the clearcoat viable. If you do, you have a good 10 years even in the sun before the snake-peel effect happens.
  • My bright Red, 2 year old, F-150 has always been in the Arizona sun and has never been waxed still shines like new.
  • tourguidetourguide Posts: 190
    A couple of years ago I bought a dark red (cordovan) F150 and it had the clearcoat paint. At the time I bought it, the vehicle was starting to show some signs of fading. It definately showed signs of aging.
  • As a follow up the seals were replaced by the Ford dealer on 3/8/04. The leak came back for the 4th time on 3/17/04.

    I still think it is all related to the Advance Trac system. Ford is now on the defensive and has no solutions for repairs. In the meantime, I've got a 2004 car with 2101 miles leaking all over my driveway and garage floor.

    On a bright note, its the fire red color and it looks great. The prior 1999 was the laser red and it held up great. (Upstate New York weather).
  • nvbankernvbanker Posts: 7,285
    You got a lemon law where you live? I'd start working on it if you do, particularly if Ford isn't stepping up with something for you.
  • cat3126cat3126 Posts: 43
    I had the same problem of leaking axle seals when the temperature fell below 25 F on my 03 EB.After five tries of replacing seals the dealer replaced the entire rear assembly,differential,axles ,outboard bearings,etc. did a four wheel alignment. No more leaks.
    I have heard RUMORS that some Advance Trak EXP.. have had limited slip differentials installed by mistake,this causes some weird handling problems. Have not been able to confirm. It is my understanding that Advance Trak uses a convential differential.
  • nvbankernvbanker Posts: 7,285
    Makes sense. It's very unfortunate when one captures a mis-matched auto, and I don't understand how that happens, but it does. Persistence pays off though.
  • shairkhanshairkhan Posts: 28
    I have a 2000 Exp. XLT sport pkg. 4x4.

    I have a couple of strange issues with it that we have been unable to figure yet:

    I am having a rather strange problem with the child door locks in the rear doors. The way I understand this should work is that you engage the child lock in the door... The door will then not open from inside regardless if the normal locks are open or closed. The door will only open from outside. Now in our case the child lock somehow automatically engages itself on both the rear doors... and they stop opening from inside! I have manually disengaged it several times... and it happens again! any clue???

    When accelerating rapidly from start or from slower speeds. I get a strange noise (a kind of vibrating noise that can also be felt on the floor boards) that seems to be comming from the front drivetrain (It is a 4x4)

    Your help will be greatly appreciated.


    S. A. Khan
  • toochtooch Posts: 3
    Hi! I lurked this forum prior to the purchase of my EB Exp 03 last OCtober with the thought that lemons are rare. With less than 1000 miles I would hear a loud roaring noise when I started the vehicle and when I would speed up. The window noise was also super loud -lots of wind entering the car. The dealer told me that they were normal noises. At 3000 miles he agreed to drive around with me and he acknowledged that the muffler or transmission must be out as that roaring noise was wierd. He also agreed to replace the window stripping. And he also replaced the driver side panels as they were shaking as well. As the front passenger side would make breathing noises as well as grinding noises he agreed to check out the heat system and found out is was bad and needed replacement.
    So after all of this you would think I would have no more problems? Wrong! I got the EXP03 back after a week in the shop (they rented a shoddy car for me). They returned it to me without even washing it so I went to a car wash and bingo water poured through the rear side window. Boy was I pissed! Plus my heated seats that the installed were crappy and ineffective.

    I called the dealership and they took it back in. They had it for about 3 weeks as they had to await replacement parts for the windos. And supposedly they also fixed the seats which they acknowledged were defective. But the heated seats are not Ford seats and have a separate warranty. But we finally got the EXP03 back and whaddya know..the windows still shake, whistle and rattle. And the EXPO3 is still much louder than our F350 Super Duty Lariat when we start or change speed. And the door panels still shake.
    So we gave it back to the dealer and said it was unacceptable. The dealer loaned us one of their EXP03 to use in the interim.
    It has been close to 4 weeks since they have had our vehicle. And the one they loaned sounds like it has a person stuck under the passenger seat as you can hear this super loud breathing/snoring noise. It scared me to death when I first heard it! The service manager continues to say that nothing is really wrong with the vehicle though when they came to take it back it would not start.
    It has no more than 7600 miles when we gave it back to the dealer to fix again. I really don't want to continue to deal with more problems. The dealer says that Ford issued a service warning on the windows. Any suggestions?
    We did not buy our F350 through this dealer as we wanted to find a dealer closer to our new home on the Cape with the thought that it would be easier to service. Now we really wish we had bought it through our old dealer in Worcester who never queried our complaints/issues with the F350 which had tons of problems until mile 32000 and after that no more problems.
    I'd appreciate your advice.
  • nvbankernvbanker Posts: 7,285
    1) That's impossible!

    2) No experience with that.

    TOOCH: I'd trade that damn thing. Although I have experienced none of your issues, and I doubt you would on an 04, I'd get rid of it, and bite the loss.
  • toochtooch Posts: 3
    Whats impossible? The problems I reported or the possibility of having no more problems?

    Did I just get a lemon or do all Expeditions have problems?
  • toochtooch Posts: 3
    How does the trade in process work? I paid 42k including sales tax and heated seats.
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