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It doesn't bother me in the least. Even the best publishing houses in the world with the top editors in the world make typos and printing mistakes. I count on Honda's engineering, not their proofreading.
If you are joking, good one! I could almost see folks around here chastising a car company for something so silly.
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '98 Alfa 156 2.0TS; '08 Maser QP; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '11 Mini Cooper S
Looks like you do too! Plus questionable grammer (missing comma)
Honda's creditibility is fine with me. As is their credibility.
Does it worry anyone that a company that's given the credibility Honda is makes "printing errors"?
2014 Malibu 2LT, 2015 Cruze 2LT,
Hmmm, should owners have an apostrophe in that last sentence?
Steve, Host.
2014 Malibu 2LT, 2015 Cruze 2LT,
Steve, Host
Spell check have would picked that up - "grammar!"
tidester, host
I was going to mention that. Glass houses....
2014 Malibu 2LT, 2015 Cruze 2LT,
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '98 Alfa 156 2.0TS; '08 Maser QP; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '11 Mini Cooper S
40/20/40 or similar folding 2nd row seat - The new Pathfinder has this and it would make access to the third row easier for my oldest child, when my youngest two are in fixed child seats in the outer positions. As a bonus, it would be great if the 2nd row would fold down completely flat.
Side Curtain Air Bags - These should be added as the MDX has them now. Hopefully these will be available on all models, not just the EXL+ versions.
Stability Control - Put this on all models, not just the EXL+
Minor Styling Revisions - I generally like the Pilot now. I am hoping the styling update will be like the '05 CR-V updates (i.e. subtle). I would not be happy if the Pilot took on Ridgeline attributes.
New wheels - I really don't like the alloys on the '03-'05's. I am sure there are many out there that like them. They just never looked good to me.
VCM - I am mixed on this one. I like the idea that VCM could enhance mileage, but it seems likely that it would be offered only on EXL+ models, which (to me) defeats its economical advantages. Plus I have read reports that real world results are very mixed.
Any other items people want to see?
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '98 Alfa 156 2.0TS; '08 Maser QP; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '11 Mini Cooper S
1. The rear window - would like to see it open without having ot lift the entire door.
2. The reas side windows, would like to have them open electronically, not up down, but the flip out syle like the rear windows on the Odyssey.
3. A better way to store the hanging, banging, third row seatbelts.
4. A rearview mirroe that's maybe another inch wider.
5. Electric passenger seat adjustments would be nice.
6. Electric seat lumbar in both front seats.
7. Driver position memory buttons - 2 or 3 drivers.
Well, that's all for now. How did I do?
2014 Malibu 2LT, 2015 Cruze 2LT,
We are just going to have to insist that you use the chell specker at the bottom of the page!
tidester, host
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '98 Alfa 156 2.0TS; '08 Maser QP; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '11 Mini Cooper S
tidester, host
Thanks!
The scuttlebutt (internet gossip, rumor, and speculation) is that the '06 Pilot may well have VCM, at least on the high end model. A hybrid model next year doesn't seem to be in the cards.
http://world.honda.com/news/2005/c050111.html
Other than that, the speculation is that it gets side air bags, and will have a mild interior and exterior restyling for 2006.
Steve, Host
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Steve, Host
The first two similar on price, the last two similar on space.
Pilots a great drive but I think a little cramped for all the bags and backpacks that kids and their sports/coaching generates.
Freestyle all the room, drives slower than but much like a Volvo xc70, and does it all for a much lower price and lower TCO .
But does the lower price offset the reliability confidence premium provided by the Toyota?
Taking the TCO and replacing depreciation with cost to buy shows that the Freestyle is $12,000 less expensive to own in first 5 years than the sequoia. I am hesitant about the Freestyle, esp with the new transmission, but thats a big chunk of change to kiss goodbye to for a feeling.....
I was told that Honda is having a problem with the tranny with all V6 engines (Accords, Odyssey, Pilot, Acura TL, Acura MDX). Not sure if this is accurate. I also read that Honda extended the powertrain warranty on some 600,000 vehicles (don't know what models they include or year). Maybe someone in the knowledge can clarify.
We looked at Sequoia (too big), Armada (truck like, too bulky), Minivan (wife doesn't like the concept of driving one, as it is even longer than the Pilot.
As I am considering a Pilot (as it seems to suit our needs the best), I was wondering if there has been any or a lot of instances where Pilot owners have reported issues with the Tranny as is the case with Odyssey and Accord. Any other vehicles affected? Also what kind of odometer mileage readings have been reported on the SUV's when the tranny problems were encountered?
TIA,
Spyderred :confuse:
the pilot. If she sits in the back seat she can have the A/C vent blowing against
her nose...
We don't have kids (did I tell you about our 100 lb SPOILED lap dog?), but I am
about to buy a roof basket for those odd occasions when the luggage overwhelms
the interior. A good dealer should not be shocked by the request to make sure
the whole family fits (including the four pawed kid) - bring the pup and try it out!
One pleasant surprise - the 100lb dog has not broken the console by stepping on
it. Not that I recommend this, but we are pleasantly surprised.
A note about the luggage separation net - there's really nothing to hold the top of
it from moving forward, so our dog manages to get from the back to the front when
we are out of the car. [Dog lovers be calm - cool temperatures, always parked in
the shade and windows/sunroof open.] We often find the light in the passenger
grab handle on after this houdini trick. [I am about to try cable clamps on the
grab bars to try to keep the net in place, and the dog in the far rear.]
We did think about the Ford Escape last year, but as we drive over the mountains
in the winter - we need a car we can trust.
Regards,
--SRL
I want to ask you about a non-room-but-dog-no-kids-question.
We are empty nesters with an American Eskimo (20 lbs) and a small poodle (10 lbs).
Had thought about the separation net for them, but now have concerns. Do you have leather? The eskie sheds 15 to 20 lbs of hair an hour and the poodle tries to dig a nest before he lays down. I traded my junker for this pilot so no longer have a car that I do not care about being torn up. Expiernce with claws on leather? Dog hair on leather?
My pilot is a week old and only 241 miles. No, it can't be new forever, but---- :confuse:
As far as some of the info you've heard, I believe its a bit mixed up. There was an extension of some powertrain warranties, but it wasn't on 600K vehicles. The 600K vehicles is the total number that Honda recalled last year so that they could inspect the 2nd gear in the transmissions and assess if a full replacement was needed or the addition of an extra oil jet for better lubrication. According to Honda, they have had less than a 1% failure rate in those vehicles affected (this was a report also filed last year).
In any case, we planned on buying the extended warranty from the getgo, and I'm glad we did just by some slim chance we are in the small number of vehicles that will experience tranny problems.
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '98 Alfa 156 2.0TS; '08 Maser QP; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '11 Mini Cooper S
Having never owned an automatic transmission in 25+ years since buying my first new car, I wasn't affected by this dilemma until we needed a new SUV a few months ago. We decided to go with a 2005 MDX. Many reasons we chose the MDX over the Pilot, but at least one factor was the fact that the MDX has a completely new transmission developed after the problems surfaced. For whatever reason, I believe the 2005 Pilot has the same transmission (with some factory modifications) as the earlier model. However, our friend on his second transmission replacement was told that his first replacement had the same factory modification that is on the new Pilots. He intends to sell the vehicle before he goes in for another "change the transmission and check the oil" service. All of this occurred in less than 35,000 miles.
I'd like to see Honda/Acura put this issue to bed. They are not handling in a way that is appropraite for their quality image. My former Honda S2000 was the best built car I have ever owned, period. My current TL 6-speed is also an excellent vehicle. Too bad the MDX doesn't come in a 6-speed manual. The only SUV that we tested that does is the BMW X5 3.0i and it is far too short on "utility" for our needs.
I've considered both the Pilot & Ridgeline, but I'm still very leery of V6 Honda products. Only time will tell. You've got to hand it to Honda PR dept. that it is NOT more widely known about problem. It is known mostly word of mouth, & Internet.