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2021 Kia Soul LX 6-speed stick
if they have allocations remaining.....what is their priority list...meaning where do you stand on that list against their remaining allocations....and will they sell at MSRP..without dealer markup....hope this info helps.....also the salesman may no know this information so you might have to deal with the sales or inventory control manager
I waited a year before I found a solstice. Last April (05) I made an attempt at one of the first thousand. What a joke. So I ordered one with a deposit. Waited 6 months with no car in sight. The factory wouldn't accept the order. I live in the Pacific Northwest and the dealership is small. I got frustrated and said forget it and give me my deposit back.
It wasn't too long after that when I heard someone else ordered on and it was on the way. I was pissed. So, about December 05 I placed another order which the factory accepted but no build date.
march 06 I got a call that the Solstice came in that was ordered by someone else but the wife didn't like it. Sales manager said I had the option to buy it and if not he would tack on a $5000 markup and put it on the lot.
Well, it wasn't the color I ordered, didn't have XM radio but when I saw it (dark blue) and drove it, there was no doubt that this was my car.
Only have 100 miles on it because it seems to be raining all the time. Bad as my Harley sitting in the garage.
I call this Solstice a poor mans Corvette (I've had two). It is sweet handling and has great styling. It's not for a person that is 6'4". Too bad there isn't any luggage room. maybe someone will develop an aftermarket rack for the back lid. Love this car.
glad you got the car
I bought a Lexus RX 300 in early 1999. At the time they were new and hot - nearly everything coming off the boat was sold. Yet, the Lexus dealer brought one to my house and offered me its use for the day so that I could experience the vehicle while shopping, highway driving, etc. - and then came back and picked it up.
Naturally, I bought one. I paid $500 below sticker. Subsequent service has been just as stellar.
Maybe GM dealers could learn a lesson and treat the customer as a valued life-long partner, whether the vehicle is hot or not, rather than a commodity ready to be gorged. Due to the quality of the vehicle and the over-the-top service, Lexus has a customer for life - and I don't even consider walking into a GM (or any other)dealership. (though my wife bought a Scion tC)
I must admit the Solstice/Sky has me tempted, but I'm waiting for the coupe (if there will be one) and if I need a toy at the time, just may make that walk. My expectations will be high as I have now been spoiled, but I can't afford an SC so one of these may have to do.
I took it in to the dealed and the GM Warranty rep said that it is common and they will not correct it. It already (~2000 miles on the car) is showing excessive wear and will pop through soon. The other Solstice that was at the dealership had the same defect in its roof, which the body shop manager pointed out to him and his response is we will deal with it upon failure (Betting on failure to occure after warranty runs out).
Also my Solstice was delivered with the passenger door misaligned, driver side interior windshield pillar trim severly scratched, the center consol cover scratched, and scratches in the paint behind the passengers headrest and drivers quarter panel.
Ufortunately it appears as if GM does not get it again as they would rather ship defective product and have those of us who still buy GM to be upset with the quality of their product rather than fix the defect and keep a loyal customer. So good luck as it appears GM is not concerned about the quality of their product or the customer. My next car purchase? Probably will not be a GM product.
*Note- I am now 46 and I have bought 15+/- new GM vehicles and was raised in a GM family who were employed by GM. This will be a tough change for me but it looks as if GM is not concerned with consumer loyalty. So the next time I buy a new vehicle I plan to switch to an imported brand as they appear to produce a better quality product and still care about their customer.
Most sports car have this shifter moavement. It actually is kinda sporty!
sounds like you need a new dealership...or new service department.....remember...most if not all dealerships are independently owned..and not part of GM...our biggest complaint over on the other board..is that GM seemingly loses that outlook...and doesnt penalize a dealership....for poor customer service..or faulty repairs....such as reducing allocations of popular models etc....
the problems with the dealer...is tough to deal with....he should have prepped the car better..noted the issues and corrected them before delivery...ours was perfect and very well detailed...when we took delivery back on 12/10...after a 7 month wait...if the car was in that bad of shape...why didnt the dealership or even you refuse to take it.....all I have seen and heard is that the QC on these cars has been exceptional.....at least mine was
look at the other forums here ...and you will see problems with all the brands....import or otherwise, remember the ones that are happy with their cars are the silent majority.......I left honda in 1990...after a lousy experience with an accord..and have not been back since....done dodge chrysler, ford, chevy and pontiac....and only one problem with a chrysler product....transmission....so Im very happy with US autos....
Last allocation order cycle scheduled to start 5/24.
End of production scheduled for 6/23.
2007 Information:
Online order guides scheduled to be up 4/24.
VOMS scheduled to be open to accept orders for dealership order banks on 4/24.
First allocation order cycle scheduled to start June 1, 2006. (Not GXPs)
Start of production scheduled for 6/26 (not GXPs).
The best we can do as consumers is limit our risk and the likelyhood of a bad experience by doing our homework.
Like it or not, the products ranked atop the consumer and product testing firm ratings have consistantly been dominated by Honda and Toyota for quite a few years. While some GM vehicles are beginning to creep to the top recently, they will need to demonstrate a consistant, company-wide (not a single hit-n-miss vehicle) showing to gain my trust.
The Solstice/Sky represent a new era for GM and they (even by their own admission - that's why the delayed intro) absolutely, positively have to get it right in initial quality, long-term reliability & support.
Wish them the best, but until they can prove that commitment across all product lines I am going to be careful not to be swayed by a flash-in-the-pan, especially since, at least for now in/re Solstice/Sky, it is all flash and the substance yet to be proven.
the shoulders of its popular Solstice, saw the biggest decline in shopper
ages – from 54 in the first quarter of 2005 down to 41 in the first quarter
of 2006 – Edmunds.com recently reported, citing a new report by market
research firm CNW. At the same time, Toyota has seen a dramatic 11-percent
increase in the average age of its shoppers, even factoring in its Scion
youth brand. The average age of Toyota shoppers was 40.5 in 2005 and is 45
in 2006. This report is an important sign of progress for Pontiac, and an
important sign of danger for Toyota, Edmunds.com concluded.
I believe GM have the people and the technology to provide a GREAT sports car that we could use as our only vehicle for every day transportation and on weekends. This is only a third vehicle like Porsche cars. Wake up GM! Please give us great styling like this car.
Give us 4 adult seating. some storage room inside and a trunk for luggage. and good gas mileage as we do not want to go broke driving it around after purchasing this vehicle. I would love this vehicle and use it as my primary vehicle and do everything with it. Drive it to work, go grocery shopping, take boys to soccor, hockey etc.
take it on vacation. bring home some 2x4 and what ever I need from Home Depo. Last of all, I would like to park it in my garage and driver and passenger can get out of either door. My wife parks on the right side of our double garage and the passenger have to get out before she drives it into the garage. I park on the left side of the garage and will have trouble getting out to my right with the counsel in the middle. New concept required.
I do agree they missed the boat by not having at least some room for an overnight bag. Hopefully someone will come up with something. But this is not an every day runaround car. I think anyone who buys a small 2 seater expects to have it as a 2nd car. My first vette was in the garage with a citation next to it. that citation did carry 2x4's and every thing else.
I'm considering getting some of that clear film you can install on the front of my new Toyota Yaris sedan or Kia Rio right around purchase time to help with those nasty nicks.
2021 Kia Soul LX 6-speed stick
its holding up....considering the amount of highway driving it has seen so far..no complaints..it gets washed every two weeks or so.....so I tend to notice the imperfections......
Congrats to you on your Solstice, sounds like your silver is a nice shade. :shades:
2021 Kia Soul LX 6-speed stick
cheers!
Sorry, what does this mean?
GXPs will also be a separate allocation line to the dealers along with another allocation line for the base sols.....guessing we will see 5-6K GXPs produced in 07.....remember most performance upgrades generally do not out sell their base model....ex..more mustang v-6s are sold as compared to GTs...I would expect to see the same here.....most will be satisified with the base model....and not wanting a turbo....saving the 4-5K price difference...IMHO
thanks ahead of time.
As for mechanics: can we expect a miracle? Seriously, what about 4 banger and 6 cyl engines and 4 speed auto tranny?-Aren't they from the same pitiful old part box, with pushrod setup going back to the 1980-ies?
And other parts and finish: Do you think that culture of mediocrity suddenly will turn into excellence? Their starting point was to create something CHEAP to compete with Miata, because otherwise (they stated)"they would end up with Honda S2000" (like they have a chance with those inferior designs). They never managed to get crisp, elegant handling of especially Honda cars. Will they now?-or end up with a bit flimsy and heavy familiar Pontiac feel?
Result: wait for mechanical problems and to see plenty of cheap plastics. I agree: its looks draw attention, but again in that Pontiac-y overdone, bloated way.
Seriously, I have to look if used first year or so S2000 will come close to price with new Solstice. I want reliability, top-notch handling, finish quality and elegant engineering.
I wished to get opinions about it from other fellow drivers. Thank you
crisp elegant handling....have you driven a solstice...it turns on a dime...doesnt wallow through turns....we dont think its cheap or heavy..but rather a nicely priced entry level roadster.....still working out some mechanical issues..but all first year cars do.....and MX-5 had a 15 year head start and the S2K....what a 10 year.....
I think you will see a redesign of the area causing the most concern with the solstice...and that is the differential.....instead of a parts bin one....think they should proceed as Mazda did and design the drive train specifically for the car...IMHO.....though we still love this car....had it 7 months now....12K on it....
Thank you very much!
I would go back and try to return if you have the paperwork. I guess it would be easy to miss seeing that it did not have the brakes.
Next I would ask them to do a search to find you a car as close as the one you ordered and get it for you. They are still in short supply but they are starting to fill the pipe line a bit so that many dealers now have a couple in but you may have to reorder. If you do reorder you need to get yourself to the front of your dealerships line. Demand this. I would also call Pontiac and state your issue. they mnay be able to put your car higher in priority at the plant.
either way..depends on the documentation you have and what you signed that will give you some or any leverage in this issue.....most dealers require you to review and sign the original order....did you?
you could do as suggested..have the dealer search for another that may come close..or simply order a new one....but could prove more hassle than worth....if you have the docs above the show the dealer didnt enter the order correctly...you might be able to get a comp accessory or too depending on your relationship with the dealer....dont work with your salesman...go to the sales manager or inventory control manager with this issue....
good luck
Is this normal?
I've never seen this anywhere in Europe.