dont feel bad..we had a 7 month wait..but vin 4744.....get your VOMS number from your dealer...ask him to run a vehicle order event history for you...(VOEH)....its a printout of all the codes and status of your car....in the production process...
John,get your vinn # from dealer and if they won't trace it for you-call 1-800-353-3867 and press #2 promp for fan service and just give them the first 3 digits and the last 8 digits of the vin# and they will act like you must be a dealer,but just be like-well..I know friends that have done this and they will do it for you.let me know? but the dealer can do it-give them the number if they act like they don't have a way to track it.Good Luck and you will LOVE your Solstice--waiting like to have killed me too,butyou should have yours soon too.
the question you need to ask is what is their remaining model year 06 allocations...the switch over is in May for 07 allocations....if you can find a dealer with 06 allocations remaining...your wait...will probably be 6-8 weeks at this point...you need to ask how many allocations have they had for 06....how many solstices have they delivered....that will give you some idea of what to expect for the 07 model if they have no 06 allocations remaining
if they have allocations remaining.....what is their priority list...meaning where do you stand on that list against their remaining allocations....and will they sell at MSRP..without dealer markup....hope this info helps.....also the salesman may no know this information so you might have to deal with the sales or inventory control manager
Just joined this forum and enjoy some of the comments. I waited a year before I found a solstice. Last April (05) I made an attempt at one of the first thousand. What a joke. So I ordered one with a deposit. Waited 6 months with no car in sight. The factory wouldn't accept the order. I live in the Pacific Northwest and the dealership is small. I got frustrated and said forget it and give me my deposit back. It wasn't too long after that when I heard someone else ordered on and it was on the way. I was pissed. So, about December 05 I placed another order which the factory accepted but no build date. march 06 I got a call that the Solstice came in that was ordered by someone else but the wife didn't like it. Sales manager said I had the option to buy it and if not he would tack on a $5000 markup and put it on the lot. Well, it wasn't the color I ordered, didn't have XM radio but when I saw it (dark blue) and drove it, there was no doubt that this was my car. Only have 100 miles on it because it seems to be raining all the time. Bad as my Harley sitting in the garage. I call this Solstice a poor mans Corvette (I've had two). It is sweet handling and has great styling. It's not for a person that is 6'4". Too bad there isn't any luggage room. maybe someone will develop an aftermarket rack for the back lid. Love this car.
Been reading all the back & forth on dealer attitudes and test drives.
I bought a Lexus RX 300 in early 1999. At the time they were new and hot - nearly everything coming off the boat was sold. Yet, the Lexus dealer brought one to my house and offered me its use for the day so that I could experience the vehicle while shopping, highway driving, etc. - and then came back and picked it up.
Naturally, I bought one. I paid $500 below sticker. Subsequent service has been just as stellar.
Maybe GM dealers could learn a lesson and treat the customer as a valued life-long partner, whether the vehicle is hot or not, rather than a commodity ready to be gorged. Due to the quality of the vehicle and the over-the-top service, Lexus has a customer for life - and I don't even consider walking into a GM (or any other)dealership. (though my wife bought a Scion tC)
I must admit the Solstice/Sky has me tempted, but I'm waiting for the coupe (if there will be one) and if I need a toy at the time, just may make that walk. My expectations will be high as I have now been spoiled, but I can't afford an SC so one of these may have to do.
The rear crossbar in the top on the drivers side has a material defect which is protruding into the top creating a protrusion that will soon punch through the top.
I took it in to the dealed and the GM Warranty rep said that it is common and they will not correct it. It already (~2000 miles on the car) is showing excessive wear and will pop through soon. The other Solstice that was at the dealership had the same defect in its roof, which the body shop manager pointed out to him and his response is we will deal with it upon failure (Betting on failure to occure after warranty runs out).
Also my Solstice was delivered with the passenger door misaligned, driver side interior windshield pillar trim severly scratched, the center consol cover scratched, and scratches in the paint behind the passengers headrest and drivers quarter panel.
Ufortunately it appears as if GM does not get it again as they would rather ship defective product and have those of us who still buy GM to be upset with the quality of their product rather than fix the defect and keep a loyal customer. So good luck as it appears GM is not concerned about the quality of their product or the customer. My next car purchase? Probably will not be a GM product.
*Note- I am now 46 and I have bought 15+/- new GM vehicles and was raised in a GM family who were employed by GM. This will be a tough change for me but it looks as if GM is not concerned with consumer loyalty. So the next time I buy a new vehicle I plan to switch to an imported brand as they appear to produce a better quality product and still care about their customer.
I test drove a 5speed '06 and pre-ordered my '07 today at Sewell Pontiac in Dallas. I loved everything about the car except the 5speed transmission. Regardless if it was in neutral or in a gear, there was a lot of rough vibration in the stick. I was expecting a little more refined transmission, especially since it's manufactured in Japan (my sales person confirmed it's made in Japan). I've only had a 5speed non-sports car and didn't have such vibrations. Is this normal for a roadster/sportscar? It's not severe enough to keep me from ordering - it's far better than a boring auto (I only do auto in 4-doors). Am I just picky and expectations too high???
Transmission does not cause the vibration. Engine does. Do not know how the shifter is attached to the trans in the solstice. But there are two ways, one is to have the shifter mounted right on the trans. This will give you vibration no matter what. The engine has to move and in the RWD Solstice it is mounted to the trans. The other way is to have linkages or cable between the shifter and the trans. All FWD cars that I know of have this. You said non sports car is what you had before so this is probably the case.
Most sports car have this shifter moavement. It actually is kinda sporty!
can you describe the cross bar defect more closely...this issue hasnt been raised at all over on the solstice site..where over 5000 members are registered..including at least a 1/3 of the F1k owners.... I checked ours...and see on execessive wear or indication of it..running my hands over each cross bar..I feel nothing....and we have over 5800 miles on our solstice...
sounds like you need a new dealership...or new service department.....remember...most if not all dealerships are independently owned..and not part of GM...our biggest complaint over on the other board..is that GM seemingly loses that outlook...and doesnt penalize a dealership....for poor customer service..or faulty repairs....such as reducing allocations of popular models etc....
the problems with the dealer...is tough to deal with....he should have prepped the car better..noted the issues and corrected them before delivery...ours was perfect and very well detailed...when we took delivery back on 12/10...after a 7 month wait...if the car was in that bad of shape...why didnt the dealership or even you refuse to take it.....all I have seen and heard is that the QC on these cars has been exceptional.....at least mine was
look at the other forums here ...and you will see problems with all the brands....import or otherwise, remember the ones that are happy with their cars are the silent majority.......I left honda in 1990...after a lousy experience with an accord..and have not been back since....done dodge chrysler, ford, chevy and pontiac....and only one problem with a chrysler product....transmission....so Im very happy with US autos....
I think you have an exceptional dealer....fellow office workers have just the opposite experiences with the same model.....too much maintance, too expensive, too many little things go wrong with it..the one that comes to mine is the auto tire inflation sensors...or something like that...seems every time the dealership would run the RX 300 thru their car wash..it was set off the sensor.....he has had them replaced probably 6-8 times now....and they finally figured out what was causing them....his response was he will never buy another lexus.....so again......your experience is stellar......theirs not so
It's higher than many cars, but the engine puts shake into the drivetrain because it's a 4-cyl. Counter-rotating shaft help. I'm not sure what you're used to, but front engine-rear drive have more gearshift input because the shifter is directly connected to the transmission. In FWD vehicles the shifter runs through a cable to the transmission, isolating the engine's vibration. I personal like some vibration, since it gives me direct feedback of what the powertrain's doing.
I wouldnt quarantee it.....I have already seen...so called markups on the sky at the Saturn dealerships...no haggle prices, it appears its no haggle for whatever prices the dealership cares to set.....the sky will be the same as the solstice..limited quanitities low production...even more so than the sol..since its the same plant...just a third shift.....but only time will tell
2006 Information: Last allocation order cycle scheduled to start 5/24. End of production scheduled for 6/23.
2007 Information: Online order guides scheduled to be up 4/24. VOMS scheduled to be open to accept orders for dealership order banks on 4/24. First allocation order cycle scheduled to start June 1, 2006. (Not GXPs) Start of production scheduled for 6/26 (not GXPs).
There is no doubt one can encounter a bad experience, dealer or product-wise, with any manufacturer.
The best we can do as consumers is limit our risk and the likelyhood of a bad experience by doing our homework.
Like it or not, the products ranked atop the consumer and product testing firm ratings have consistantly been dominated by Honda and Toyota for quite a few years. While some GM vehicles are beginning to creep to the top recently, they will need to demonstrate a consistant, company-wide (not a single hit-n-miss vehicle) showing to gain my trust.
The Solstice/Sky represent a new era for GM and they (even by their own admission - that's why the delayed intro) absolutely, positively have to get it right in initial quality, long-term reliability & support.
Wish them the best, but until they can prove that commitment across all product lines I am going to be careful not to be swayed by a flash-in-the-pan, especially since, at least for now in/re Solstice/Sky, it is all flash and the substance yet to be proven.
Pontiac, on the shoulders of its popular Solstice, saw the biggest decline in shopper ages – from 54 in the first quarter of 2005 down to 41 in the first quarter of 2006 – Edmunds.com recently reported, citing a new report by market research firm CNW. At the same time, Toyota has seen a dramatic 11-percent increase in the average age of its shoppers, even factoring in its Scion youth brand. The average age of Toyota shoppers was 40.5 in 2005 and is 45 in 2006. This report is an important sign of progress for Pontiac, and an important sign of danger for Toyota, Edmunds.com concluded.
I don't own the Solstice but have been familiar with them since they were approved for production, so I was a bit surprised when I came up on one merging onto a highway from the back, and it had a really nice paint and the body was very hot. I was thinking, 'There's one of those Lexus 2 seat convertibles' and then I passed and saw the front grill and realized what it was! LOL Man, it is a sweet looking car, that's for sure.
This is one great looking sports car. I found the inside to be isolated from the passenger. It is my opinion this is a car for taking a buddy out but not for romancing. There is the Great wall of China between the driver and passenger. There is no possible chance of romance between the driver and female passenger. Like looking at beautiful legs. No holding hands while driving. Slightly brushing her leg while shifting from 3 rd gear to 4 th gear by accident of course or going further (use your imagination). No room for a present if you are going to a birthday party unless the passenger holds it. I believe GM have the people and the technology to provide a GREAT sports car that we could use as our only vehicle for every day transportation and on weekends. This is only a third vehicle like Porsche cars. Wake up GM! Please give us great styling like this car. Give us 4 adult seating. some storage room inside and a trunk for luggage. and good gas mileage as we do not want to go broke driving it around after purchasing this vehicle. I would love this vehicle and use it as my primary vehicle and do everything with it. Drive it to work, go grocery shopping, take boys to soccor, hockey etc. take it on vacation. bring home some 2x4 and what ever I need from Home Depo. Last of all, I would like to park it in my garage and driver and passenger can get out of either door. My wife parks on the right side of our double garage and the passenger have to get out before she drives it into the garage. I park on the left side of the garage and will have trouble getting out to my right with the counsel in the middle. New concept required.
This is not the type of vehicle to go buy 2x4's in. You obviously do not get the concept of a small sport roadster.
I do agree they missed the boat by not having at least some room for an overnight bag. Hopefully someone will come up with something. But this is not an every day runaround car. I think anyone who buys a small 2 seater expects to have it as a 2nd car. My first vette was in the garage with a citation next to it. that citation did carry 2x4's and every thing else.
we have packed for a long weekend road trip in our solstice....and will again this weekend..to small to medium soft side duffels fit in with the top up or down..luggage rack in the works for those who care for it....and fitted luggage already on the aftermarket list...
what color of Solstice did you get? Is your Solstice's paint job excellent and holding up to nicks well? Do you use some after-market protectant on the front of your Solstice?
I'm considering getting some of that clear film you can install on the front of my new Toyota Yaris sedan or Kia Rio right around purchase time to help with those nasty nicks.
we have the cool..(silver)..no film protectant..have considered..but we have over 6900 miles on our sol so far....nothing major....one little dink from debris on the hood..but its higher than film would have protected...paint pen took car of it....I looked at the clear film...and I would try to self install...besides warranty coverages seem to be void if you dont get it professionally installed...and it is pricey.....for the hood bumper and mirrors....most want between 650-900 depending on the type of film and thickness...
its holding up....considering the amount of highway driving it has seen so far..no complaints..it gets washed every two weeks or so.....so I tend to notice the imperfections......
I drove past Sullivan Pontiac this morning and saw a Solstice sitting out by the road. Likely it was a sold model waiting to be picked up. If this were my car I sure wouldn't want people luring around it.
sorry you are dissappointed in the ride....we find ours comfortable....have had some great long distance cruises in it....have you had a two seat roadster before?..just curious..and what did you drive prior to owning the solstice... cheers!
remember the GXP will probably not start being produced until Aug....which are the indicators now....with first deliveries..sometime in the late Sept timeframe....also remember the GXP will be part of the overall solstice production line..not in addition to it...GM will likely still only produce..20k solstices...base and GXP combined....
GXPs will also be a separate allocation line to the dealers along with another allocation line for the base sols.....guessing we will see 5-6K GXPs produced in 07.....remember most performance upgrades generally do not out sell their base model....ex..more mustang v-6s are sold as compared to GTs...I would expect to see the same here.....most will be satisified with the base model....and not wanting a turbo....saving the 4-5K price difference...IMHO
I really like the performance ability of the GXP, but I kind of wish they had modified the 2.4L instead of the 2.0L, but its still a really nice car for the price tag. Anyway, does anyone know if they will ever release a solstice with a corvette or grand prix style Heads-Up Display? I've seen them and like them a lot. Also, I saw a solstice with the top up and there was a huge gap in between the things behind the headrests.. did the guy miss a snap or are they all like that? thanks ahead of time.
dont thing you will ever see a headsup display on a solstice...just the economics of it..to get the cost at 20K for the roadster..and 25K for the GXP....the things behind the headrest Im assuming you are referring to the buttresses extending back from the top..and yes...there is some clearance underneath them.....just the way they were designed....
Unfortunately HUD's are just about gone at GM. Demand was just not there with the systems they were offering. However Delphi's patent just ran out and other sources are coming up with fresh ideas. Look to see them in other high end competitors and advertised as "new idea"!!
I'm afraid that they only dropped the cladding and shed some cheesy design clues exemplified especially in Grand Am. As for mechanics: can we expect a miracle? Seriously, what about 4 banger and 6 cyl engines and 4 speed auto tranny?-Aren't they from the same pitiful old part box, with pushrod setup going back to the 1980-ies? And other parts and finish: Do you think that culture of mediocrity suddenly will turn into excellence? Their starting point was to create something CHEAP to compete with Miata, because otherwise (they stated)"they would end up with Honda S2000" (like they have a chance with those inferior designs). They never managed to get crisp, elegant handling of especially Honda cars. Will they now?-or end up with a bit flimsy and heavy familiar Pontiac feel? Result: wait for mechanical problems and to see plenty of cheap plastics. I agree: its looks draw attention, but again in that Pontiac-y overdone, bloated way. Seriously, I have to look if used first year or so S2000 will come close to price with new Solstice. I want reliability, top-notch handling, finish quality and elegant engineering. I wished to get opinions about it from other fellow drivers. Thank you
Wow, the car is sold out for the future as far as anybody can see. Have you even driven the car? Bloaty? I have yet to hear anyone complain about the styling but I guess there has to be one. Mechanical problems? Mazda is rated below the Pontiac for both long term and short term quality per JD Power.
I guess its all subjective.....solstice holding its own on the SCCA circuit....does well as an every day driver and weekend car....holds the twisties nicely....will not take a straight line race......but wait until the GXP hits the street....plenty of power for us.....love the interior...compared to MX-5 and S2k...feels bigger to us....flimsy plastic....all three have them....fit and finish....give the edge to S2k but remember most of the Solstice is hand made vice machine line.....
crisp elegant handling....have you driven a solstice...it turns on a dime...doesnt wallow through turns....we dont think its cheap or heavy..but rather a nicely priced entry level roadster.....still working out some mechanical issues..but all first year cars do.....and MX-5 had a 15 year head start and the S2K....what a 10 year.....
I think you will see a redesign of the area causing the most concern with the solstice...and that is the differential.....instead of a parts bin one....think they should proceed as Mazda did and design the drive train specifically for the car...IMHO.....though we still love this car....had it 7 months now....12K on it....
I just purchased a 2007 Soltice and love everything about it. I have only had it for a day and realized that in the options I choose the dealer failed to add one of them (Anti-lock brakes). I have the orgional options/package sheet they printed out for me which should have included the anti-lock brakes but they failed to deliver. Where do I go from here? Do I call Pontiac? Is it possible for the dealership to correct their mistake and add/install anti-lock brakes? Could the dealer order another one (which will take years to come in) and replace the one I'm driving now? This dealship has been an aweful experience and they will not recieve any future business and I will stress to my friends and family not to do business with them. If anyone has ever had this happen to them before and might have advice please help.
Pretty much impossible to add on anti lock brakes.
I would go back and try to return if you have the paperwork. I guess it would be easy to miss seeing that it did not have the brakes.
Next I would ask them to do a search to find you a car as close as the one you ordered and get it for you. They are still in short supply but they are starting to fill the pipe line a bit so that many dealers now have a couple in but you may have to reorder. If you do reorder you need to get yourself to the front of your dealerships line. Demand this. I would also call Pontiac and state your issue. they mnay be able to put your car higher in priority at the plant.
do you have the original Vehicle Order Management System (VOMS) order..or the workbench order printout that was submitted by the dealer...did you sign the original order form listing ABS?.....if you did...its the dealers fault for not correctly entering the order into VOMS....if it was correctly entered..then the factory missed it......
either way..depends on the documentation you have and what you signed that will give you some or any leverage in this issue.....most dealers require you to review and sign the original order....did you?
you could do as suggested..have the dealer search for another that may come close..or simply order a new one....but could prove more hassle than worth....if you have the docs above the show the dealer didnt enter the order correctly...you might be able to get a comp accessory or too depending on your relationship with the dealer....dont work with your salesman...go to the sales manager or inventory control manager with this issue....
I just moved in from Europe and checked the solstice which in the 2 places I visited so far is selling between 2500 and 6500 $ over the msp. Is this normal? I've never seen this anywhere in Europe.
its called dealer markup up for a high demand low production car....if you really want one..check around....at many pontiac dealers...call within a 100 mile radius.....to find a dealer that will sell at MSRP..that is what most of us have done that have ours
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if they have allocations remaining.....what is their priority list...meaning where do you stand on that list against their remaining allocations....and will they sell at MSRP..without dealer markup....hope this info helps.....also the salesman may no know this information so you might have to deal with the sales or inventory control manager
I waited a year before I found a solstice. Last April (05) I made an attempt at one of the first thousand. What a joke. So I ordered one with a deposit. Waited 6 months with no car in sight. The factory wouldn't accept the order. I live in the Pacific Northwest and the dealership is small. I got frustrated and said forget it and give me my deposit back.
It wasn't too long after that when I heard someone else ordered on and it was on the way. I was pissed. So, about December 05 I placed another order which the factory accepted but no build date.
march 06 I got a call that the Solstice came in that was ordered by someone else but the wife didn't like it. Sales manager said I had the option to buy it and if not he would tack on a $5000 markup and put it on the lot.
Well, it wasn't the color I ordered, didn't have XM radio but when I saw it (dark blue) and drove it, there was no doubt that this was my car.
Only have 100 miles on it because it seems to be raining all the time. Bad as my Harley sitting in the garage.
I call this Solstice a poor mans Corvette (I've had two). It is sweet handling and has great styling. It's not for a person that is 6'4". Too bad there isn't any luggage room. maybe someone will develop an aftermarket rack for the back lid. Love this car.
glad you got the car
I bought a Lexus RX 300 in early 1999. At the time they were new and hot - nearly everything coming off the boat was sold. Yet, the Lexus dealer brought one to my house and offered me its use for the day so that I could experience the vehicle while shopping, highway driving, etc. - and then came back and picked it up.
Naturally, I bought one. I paid $500 below sticker. Subsequent service has been just as stellar.
Maybe GM dealers could learn a lesson and treat the customer as a valued life-long partner, whether the vehicle is hot or not, rather than a commodity ready to be gorged. Due to the quality of the vehicle and the over-the-top service, Lexus has a customer for life - and I don't even consider walking into a GM (or any other)dealership. (though my wife bought a Scion tC)
I must admit the Solstice/Sky has me tempted, but I'm waiting for the coupe (if there will be one) and if I need a toy at the time, just may make that walk. My expectations will be high as I have now been spoiled, but I can't afford an SC so one of these may have to do.
I took it in to the dealed and the GM Warranty rep said that it is common and they will not correct it. It already (~2000 miles on the car) is showing excessive wear and will pop through soon. The other Solstice that was at the dealership had the same defect in its roof, which the body shop manager pointed out to him and his response is we will deal with it upon failure (Betting on failure to occure after warranty runs out).
Also my Solstice was delivered with the passenger door misaligned, driver side interior windshield pillar trim severly scratched, the center consol cover scratched, and scratches in the paint behind the passengers headrest and drivers quarter panel.
Ufortunately it appears as if GM does not get it again as they would rather ship defective product and have those of us who still buy GM to be upset with the quality of their product rather than fix the defect and keep a loyal customer. So good luck as it appears GM is not concerned about the quality of their product or the customer. My next car purchase? Probably will not be a GM product.
*Note- I am now 46 and I have bought 15+/- new GM vehicles and was raised in a GM family who were employed by GM. This will be a tough change for me but it looks as if GM is not concerned with consumer loyalty. So the next time I buy a new vehicle I plan to switch to an imported brand as they appear to produce a better quality product and still care about their customer.
Most sports car have this shifter moavement. It actually is kinda sporty!
sounds like you need a new dealership...or new service department.....remember...most if not all dealerships are independently owned..and not part of GM...our biggest complaint over on the other board..is that GM seemingly loses that outlook...and doesnt penalize a dealership....for poor customer service..or faulty repairs....such as reducing allocations of popular models etc....
the problems with the dealer...is tough to deal with....he should have prepped the car better..noted the issues and corrected them before delivery...ours was perfect and very well detailed...when we took delivery back on 12/10...after a 7 month wait...if the car was in that bad of shape...why didnt the dealership or even you refuse to take it.....all I have seen and heard is that the QC on these cars has been exceptional.....at least mine was
look at the other forums here ...and you will see problems with all the brands....import or otherwise, remember the ones that are happy with their cars are the silent majority.......I left honda in 1990...after a lousy experience with an accord..and have not been back since....done dodge chrysler, ford, chevy and pontiac....and only one problem with a chrysler product....transmission....so Im very happy with US autos....
Last allocation order cycle scheduled to start 5/24.
End of production scheduled for 6/23.
2007 Information:
Online order guides scheduled to be up 4/24.
VOMS scheduled to be open to accept orders for dealership order banks on 4/24.
First allocation order cycle scheduled to start June 1, 2006. (Not GXPs)
Start of production scheduled for 6/26 (not GXPs).
The best we can do as consumers is limit our risk and the likelyhood of a bad experience by doing our homework.
Like it or not, the products ranked atop the consumer and product testing firm ratings have consistantly been dominated by Honda and Toyota for quite a few years. While some GM vehicles are beginning to creep to the top recently, they will need to demonstrate a consistant, company-wide (not a single hit-n-miss vehicle) showing to gain my trust.
The Solstice/Sky represent a new era for GM and they (even by their own admission - that's why the delayed intro) absolutely, positively have to get it right in initial quality, long-term reliability & support.
Wish them the best, but until they can prove that commitment across all product lines I am going to be careful not to be swayed by a flash-in-the-pan, especially since, at least for now in/re Solstice/Sky, it is all flash and the substance yet to be proven.
the shoulders of its popular Solstice, saw the biggest decline in shopper
ages – from 54 in the first quarter of 2005 down to 41 in the first quarter
of 2006 – Edmunds.com recently reported, citing a new report by market
research firm CNW. At the same time, Toyota has seen a dramatic 11-percent
increase in the average age of its shoppers, even factoring in its Scion
youth brand. The average age of Toyota shoppers was 40.5 in 2005 and is 45
in 2006. This report is an important sign of progress for Pontiac, and an
important sign of danger for Toyota, Edmunds.com concluded.
I believe GM have the people and the technology to provide a GREAT sports car that we could use as our only vehicle for every day transportation and on weekends. This is only a third vehicle like Porsche cars. Wake up GM! Please give us great styling like this car.
Give us 4 adult seating. some storage room inside and a trunk for luggage. and good gas mileage as we do not want to go broke driving it around after purchasing this vehicle. I would love this vehicle and use it as my primary vehicle and do everything with it. Drive it to work, go grocery shopping, take boys to soccor, hockey etc.
take it on vacation. bring home some 2x4 and what ever I need from Home Depo. Last of all, I would like to park it in my garage and driver and passenger can get out of either door. My wife parks on the right side of our double garage and the passenger have to get out before she drives it into the garage. I park on the left side of the garage and will have trouble getting out to my right with the counsel in the middle. New concept required.
I do agree they missed the boat by not having at least some room for an overnight bag. Hopefully someone will come up with something. But this is not an every day runaround car. I think anyone who buys a small 2 seater expects to have it as a 2nd car. My first vette was in the garage with a citation next to it. that citation did carry 2x4's and every thing else.
I'm considering getting some of that clear film you can install on the front of my new Toyota Yaris sedan or Kia Rio right around purchase time to help with those nasty nicks.
2021 Kia Soul LX 6-speed stick
its holding up....considering the amount of highway driving it has seen so far..no complaints..it gets washed every two weeks or so.....so I tend to notice the imperfections......
Congrats to you on your Solstice, sounds like your silver is a nice shade. :shades:
2021 Kia Soul LX 6-speed stick
cheers!
Sorry, what does this mean?
GXPs will also be a separate allocation line to the dealers along with another allocation line for the base sols.....guessing we will see 5-6K GXPs produced in 07.....remember most performance upgrades generally do not out sell their base model....ex..more mustang v-6s are sold as compared to GTs...I would expect to see the same here.....most will be satisified with the base model....and not wanting a turbo....saving the 4-5K price difference...IMHO
thanks ahead of time.
As for mechanics: can we expect a miracle? Seriously, what about 4 banger and 6 cyl engines and 4 speed auto tranny?-Aren't they from the same pitiful old part box, with pushrod setup going back to the 1980-ies?
And other parts and finish: Do you think that culture of mediocrity suddenly will turn into excellence? Their starting point was to create something CHEAP to compete with Miata, because otherwise (they stated)"they would end up with Honda S2000" (like they have a chance with those inferior designs). They never managed to get crisp, elegant handling of especially Honda cars. Will they now?-or end up with a bit flimsy and heavy familiar Pontiac feel?
Result: wait for mechanical problems and to see plenty of cheap plastics. I agree: its looks draw attention, but again in that Pontiac-y overdone, bloated way.
Seriously, I have to look if used first year or so S2000 will come close to price with new Solstice. I want reliability, top-notch handling, finish quality and elegant engineering.
I wished to get opinions about it from other fellow drivers. Thank you
crisp elegant handling....have you driven a solstice...it turns on a dime...doesnt wallow through turns....we dont think its cheap or heavy..but rather a nicely priced entry level roadster.....still working out some mechanical issues..but all first year cars do.....and MX-5 had a 15 year head start and the S2K....what a 10 year.....
I think you will see a redesign of the area causing the most concern with the solstice...and that is the differential.....instead of a parts bin one....think they should proceed as Mazda did and design the drive train specifically for the car...IMHO.....though we still love this car....had it 7 months now....12K on it....
Thank you very much!
I would go back and try to return if you have the paperwork. I guess it would be easy to miss seeing that it did not have the brakes.
Next I would ask them to do a search to find you a car as close as the one you ordered and get it for you. They are still in short supply but they are starting to fill the pipe line a bit so that many dealers now have a couple in but you may have to reorder. If you do reorder you need to get yourself to the front of your dealerships line. Demand this. I would also call Pontiac and state your issue. they mnay be able to put your car higher in priority at the plant.
either way..depends on the documentation you have and what you signed that will give you some or any leverage in this issue.....most dealers require you to review and sign the original order....did you?
you could do as suggested..have the dealer search for another that may come close..or simply order a new one....but could prove more hassle than worth....if you have the docs above the show the dealer didnt enter the order correctly...you might be able to get a comp accessory or too depending on your relationship with the dealer....dont work with your salesman...go to the sales manager or inventory control manager with this issue....
good luck
Is this normal?
I've never seen this anywhere in Europe.