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Anybody know when/if Toyota plans to finally add the fourth door option to the Tacoma extended cabs, like Ranger/Mazda's been doing for years? Heck, even Chevy gives you a third door.
Somebody remind me again why are these things are so pricey.
to be sold in South CA. I can't beleive this
and continue searching. No luck so far.
If it's true then it sucks! 5000 lb truck with
no ABS... Maybe it's time to start looking toward
I'll grant you they look the best.
Why? I don't know. Quality, maybe. Ranger boys will hate that arguement, but number of Ford recalls speaks for itself.
Also, Tacoma isnt exactly a Ranger. Go out to a dealership and count both of them. At a reasonable Toyota dealership you'll find at most 15 Tacomas, 4x2 and 4x4. Out of 3 dealerships in Austin, I've seen maybe 10-15 in one, less than 5 in another and 5-10 in another. So Toyota is basically keeping the demand up while keeping the supply low. Best way to ensure that people will pay more for it. Thats why there's never been any 0% discounts offered, its not like dealers will be thinking "Hell, man, look at all these Tacomas. How the hell am I gonna sell them all".
You also have to pay extra - a LOT extra - for a security system (standard on Ranger XLT, I believe).
You're right about the availability in Austin. Nobody has very many. Don't know about Houston or San Antonio.
I take that approach to all things. There's a huge market outside the dealership, where you can get everything cheaper than at the dealers.
4-door I don't particularly care for. I have no need for it, whatever I need fits great in the cab, if not, thats what the bed is for. It'd probably be nice, we'll see what 2003 model brings. If not....:) set a weekend aside, take a blowtorch and get at it.
ABS would be nice, but I've started driving (with my grandfathers help) when I was 7, and all the cars I drove had no ABS. In 16 years I only wished once I had an ABS, and even then it would not have helped. I'm used to driving without it.
and regarding the recalls. the ranger had only one in '01. so to classify it as a "ford" generalization as having numerous recalls is just plain false.
Yes, you can get all that stuff standard in a Ranger (with the exception of some things like quad cab), maybe for less than a standard Tacoma. But you know my view on it. I don't need half the crap Ford throws in with every purchase, and I don't want it. I don't feel like taking it off after purchase (after taking out a CD changer the dash looks like crap. I'm quite happy with my CD/cassette dual). I'd rather to get as close to what I want as possible, and if I want something else later, I'll get it. Like the sliders instead of nerf bars.
Regarding recalls......once again. I look at the whole picture, not just one model. The message in another forum, where the guy counted the recalls for Ford fleet vs. Toyota fleet in 2001, is a prime example. Yes, Ford makes more models of vehicles than Toyota. And yes, some of those recalls are duplicates like the tire recall on Explorer and Ranger. That still, however, does not paint a pretty picture if you compare to Toyota. And there's the severity of recalls. Camry has a recall about "during the air bag deployment, it is possible that piece of steering wheel cover will get caught and may strike the passenger" vs. "Ford Escape has been recalled due to 4x4 hubs installed on 4x2 models. This mistake may result in loss of control" or "Ford Escape has been recalled due to damaged gaskets. This may result in fuel leak".
My year Ranger(98)has had at least two recalls, maybe three. The Explorer I drive has had, I believe, five recalls so far. My two year old Tacoma has not had any recalls so far. The Ranger is a good truck, but let's be honest and admit that you're likely to have several recalls with the Ford yet very likely to have zero recalls on the Toyota. That's just a fact that you have to live with, whether you prefer the Ford or not.