Inconsiderate Drivers (share your stories, etc.)

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  • xwesxxwesx Member Posts: 17,758
    :sick: Looks like this thread is back in business! *smacks forehead*

    Glad to hear you are okay, yet again! Are you keeping a list?! ;)
    2018 Subaru Crosstrek, 2014 Audi Q7 TDI, 2013 Subaru Forester, 2013 Ford F250 Lariat D, 1976 Ford F250, 1969 Chevrolet C20, 1969 Ford Econoline 100
  • snakeweaselsnakeweasel Member Posts: 19,592
    I do believe this is only the fourth time I have been lightly tapped in the rear bumper in this car (dam magnets). But at least it wasn't at that one intersection. :blush:

    2011 Hyundai Sonata, 2014 BMW 428i convertible, 2015 Honda CTX700D

  • euphoniumeuphonium Member Posts: 3,425
    in downtown River City and several of us wondered how and why, when a State Patrol casually drove through without siren or cherry lit. I can only guess he used his infrared light switch as he was going in the direction of the hospital. More surprised than inconsiderate because that Red stayed Red longer than usual. :(
  • euphoniumeuphonium Member Posts: 3,425
    In many states when there are three or more lanes in one direction, vehicles over 10,000 lbs and vehicles towing any sized trailer are prohibited in the inside Hammer lane.

    Have never seen the above enforced, nor seen LLC cited.

    Once I saw the S.P. enforce the HOV lane about five years ago.

    All the above in WA.
  • redmaxxredmaxx Member Posts: 627
    I'm coming home yesterday, on a two lane road waiting to turn left. I've got my turn signal on and I'm waiting patiently. For no reason one of the oncoming cars stops and just sits there. So I honk and wave at him to go. Several seconds later he goes. Same thing happens again with the car behind him. And again with the next car, except this one waves at me to go! So I honk and wave at them to go. We're talking about a T intersection here, and the other road is the only one with a stop sign. So, the oncoming traffic is *not* supposed to stop. There is no way I'm going to turn in front of oncoming traffic, because I just know that if there is an accident, they're going to claim they never waved me through.

    It's one thing I won't budge on; I will not deviate from the rules at stops and turns. No matter how frantically the other person waves at me.
  • tallman1tallman1 Member Posts: 1,874
    I'm guessing they were just trying to be nice to let you go through. There must have been a long line of them and they knew you'd be stuck there awhile. I've done the same thing before... and I appreciate when others do it for me.

    I've found that the other advantage they have is that they are looking at the line of cars in front of them. They might see that everyone is stopping ahead and they know that they will be slowing down so why not just stop at that time and let you through.

    I wasn't there so I won't pretend to know your exact situation but it would be pretty weird to stop, wave you through and then floor it to deliberately hit you as you turned in front of them. Their timing would have to be pretty good. ;) Are there really people that mean??? :surprise: As I've said, I've done it many times and no one has so much as made an attempt to nail me.
  • redmaxxredmaxx Member Posts: 627
    I think the line of cars was about 6-8 long. Certainly not long. I used to go if someone waved me. But one time, apparently I didn't go fast enough since they took off just shortly after I started my turn. So, no more. I only go when it is my legal turn. :)
  • xwesxxwesx Member Posts: 17,758
    I agree with you there. The only reasonable time to do that is if traffic is coming to a stop in front of you (the driver with the right of way) anyway. Otherwise, intentions aside, predictability is just being thrown out the window and the added risk is usually not worth it.

    An interesting situation yesterday, I was on a 4-lane road (two each direction) with 35 SL. As I approached this funky intersection (the intersecting streets are slightly offset, by a road's width, with the road to my right closer to me than the road to the left. But, the lights are set up as if it is a standard intersection, so it is very long) in the left lane, the car in front of me signaled a left turn. I stopped behind the white line delineating the start of the intersection to wait for the driver to turn (in case the light turned red in the interim). In the meantime, one of the approaching cars in the other side's left lane signaled to turn left and made the turn in front of me (I was still stopped) as there was no other oncoming traffic. Just about the time that car started to turn, the one in front of me also turned.

    I had not stopped there with the intent to let the other driver turn, but since I was stopped and could see that the other driver was going ahead with the turn, there was no way I was going to make an incident out of it. I still made it through the intersection on the green. :P
    2018 Subaru Crosstrek, 2014 Audi Q7 TDI, 2013 Subaru Forester, 2013 Ford F250 Lariat D, 1976 Ford F250, 1969 Chevrolet C20, 1969 Ford Econoline 100
  • redmaxxredmaxx Member Posts: 627
    Answer: They just pulled out in front of you. I'm bringing back lunch today, going down a three lane in each direction road. SL is 45 I'm going about 50 in the middle lane and there is a Caddy next to me going about 55 and accelerating and a Ford something in the left lane going about 45, constant. A Jetta pulls up to enter the road, stops, sees all three of us. Waits a second and pulls out right in front of me. Not wanting to spill lunch, I slow down smoothly but quickly and end up fairly close to his bumper, but not so close as to be too unsafe, and I honk. At this point the Jetta hits the brakes, so I lay on the horn and hit mine harder. Now, I didn't hit him, but I was very close at this point.

    So, when is sideswiping someone not your fault? Answer: When they try to cut you off again. At this point the Ford had passed and my left turn was coming up, so I hit my turn signal, move into the left lane and start accelerating when the Jetta starts moving over while his rear quarter panel is lined up with my front quarter panel. What an idiot! Thankfully the turn lane I needed was right there so I hopped into the turn lane and stopped at the intersection. But it doesn't end there, the Jetta has the audacity to lay on the horn as he goes by and give *me* the finger. :mad:

    So, no collision, but I'm sure I wouldn't have been at fault in either instance.
  • oregonboyoregonboy Member Posts: 1,650
    It continually amazes me how some people can drive in an inconsiderate/aggressive fashion and if you do anything that can be interpreted as a response, they (over)-react with hostility.

    It makes you wonder what the heck is going on in their minds??? It's like: "Oh, you thought that was bad?... well try this on for size, sucker!!!!" It makes you feel sorry for whomever they live with. :sick:

    james
  • xwesxxwesx Member Posts: 17,758
    It continually amazes me how some people can drive in an inconsiderate/aggressive fashion and if you do anything that can be interpreted as a response, they (over)-react with hostility.

    Yeah, I found that one out first-hand! BTW, about 3 weeks ago I found out that this same person was wanted as a "person of interest" in a local murder case. I count myself lucky on this one. ;)
    2018 Subaru Crosstrek, 2014 Audi Q7 TDI, 2013 Subaru Forester, 2013 Ford F250 Lariat D, 1976 Ford F250, 1969 Chevrolet C20, 1969 Ford Econoline 100
  • euphoniumeuphonium Member Posts: 3,425
    It is NOT your fault when the guy you rear end suddenly swoops in front of you, not having established an equity in his new position. It is not your fault when the guy in front suddenly stops for no good reason after he swoops in front of you. The guy in front has to be in his new position for a reasonable distance or amount of time.
  • 210delray210delray Member Posts: 4,721
    Are you saying that the person who caused your unfortunate "incident" just before New Year's Day is a potential suspect in a murder case?!?

    If so, you ARE one lucky guy!

    So maybe those comments about his karma will come true.
  • 210delray210delray Member Posts: 4,721
    Almost got my left rear corner crunched by a tractor-trailer driving too fast for conditions. This was in my '04 Camry that got smashed in the same place by a hit-and-run driver in L.A. while parked, causing $4000 in damage!

    I was talking with my wife and hadn't looked in the rear-view mirror as often as I usually do. So when I did look up, going about 45 mph in fairly heavy traffic (2 lanes in one direction), I saw this truck coming up and swerving left, missing my bumper by maybe a foot or so. I did manage to move to the right side of the lane.

    Well, there were several traffic lights that turned red ahead of us, so I took imidazol's advice, caught up with the truck, and had my wife write down all of the identifying numbers on the tractor, along with the name of the trucking company.

    The truck driver knew we were up to something as he tooted his horn at one point, since we kept looking at his vehicle to get the info.

    I called the company after we got home and spoke to a nice man who took down all of my information. He said it would be passed along to the safety division, noted on the guy's record, and if enough further complaints came in, he would be fired. Google and switchboard.com gave me the right phone number in seconds!

    So don't get mad or bother with the police. Just call the trucking company! This is the second time I've done this, and both times, the recipients seemed to be glad I called.
  • akanglakangl Member Posts: 3,282
    Yeah, I found that one out first-hand! BTW, about 3 weeks ago I found out that this same person was wanted as a "person of interest" in a local murder case. I count myself lucky on this one.

    Whoa! Which murder case? Doesn't surprise me really judging from how he reacted to you. That's crazy!!
  • imidazol97imidazol97 Member Posts: 27,714
    This also shows that police should use tactics to note and catch aggressive driving motorists. They may have other "problems" in their head and records. Right now they seems to have that real low on priority list.

    It's like the profiling done looking for drug transporters in our area; the cues invoke stops that net lots of drugs travelling the roads and at least gets a tiny portion out of circulation.

    2014 Malibu 2LT, 2015 Cruze 2LT,

  • imidazol97imidazol97 Member Posts: 27,714
    We're glad he missed your car. It could have been really serious for you and your bride.

    I rethought my earlier post and I think that truckers exhibiting aggressive driving repeatedly while driving are doubly dangerous. They often are tired, late, not following rules for their rest times, etc.

    210 used google, swtichboard. I also use yahoo.com and select the yellow pages for a location.

    I've only had two truck companies, Globalstar and Xerox, that seemed disinterested. I think Globalstar just contracts the drivers was their answer.

    If the truck has an 800 number and you have the cab number, call while on the road. Some companies can text message the laptop or use cellphone while you're on the phone.

    2014 Malibu 2LT, 2015 Cruze 2LT,

  • xwesxxwesx Member Posts: 17,758
    I cannot remember for sure, but it seems to me like it was a stabbing case from mid-January. I think it was in the paper on 3/19. It was a "let us know if you have seen these people" request, and it said that they were not suspects, but evidence in the case led them to believe that these two people might have "valuable information."

    I had actually just contacted the Trooper for my case to ask him a question about the day he had contacted this fella, and he told me he was dropping the citations for both of us. I had contacted him earlier and said that after looking the citation up in the administrative code, there was no way it applied to the situation and asked him how he had come up with that as an accurate citation. He tried to explain his way through it, but it just did not apply and there were to two ways about it. I told him I was going to go ahead and contest it since it was not applicable, so he eventually decided to drop it. The goofy thing was that he dropped it for BOTH of us, even though Mr. Psycho had not contested or paid it (DMV regulations state that there should have been a manditory suspension of his license 90 days after the infraction if it went unpaid). I asked the Trooper why he would just drop the other citation without it being contested, and he said he felt like the whole thing was my fault. He said "you are just lucky that, unlike some people, I am not going to go back on my word and press charges." I told him that I WANTED him to press charges, and on both of us if he felt that was necessary. I had no problem with that as I had nothing to hide and I felt that was the only way to bring the other person to justice, but he flat refused. Basically, he knew he bobbled the whole thing, so there was no reason for me to press it. He finished up by repeating, "you are just really lucky I am not pressing charges." I said, "You are correct. I am lucky, but it has nothing to do with you pressing charges or not! And, I am truly disappointed that you are not pressing charges because it is not a matter of if, but when, that driver is going to do something like this again. Next time, his victims likely will not be so lucky."

    I just dropped the whole thing at that point because my wife will not support me in pursuing it any further and I am not going to fight it on every front.

    Anyway, I have not seen any further information about that murder case, nor have I seen that driver since about 3/15. I have to wonder what ever came of it.
    2018 Subaru Crosstrek, 2014 Audi Q7 TDI, 2013 Subaru Forester, 2013 Ford F250 Lariat D, 1976 Ford F250, 1969 Chevrolet C20, 1969 Ford Econoline 100
  • andre1969andre1969 Member Posts: 26,093
    I had to go up to Baltimore for an appointment, and ran into a few notable drivers.

    First, in the fast lane of the Balt-Wash Parkway, loafing along at around 45 mph, was a white van. Speed limit was 55, and there were 3 lanes in each direction. Normal flow of traffic was more like 65-70, so this van was really causing a safety hazard. As I passed it on the right, I saw a big shield logo on the side that said "Department of Corrections". The driver and the passenger both had a look on their face like they knew damn well what they were doing, and loving every minute of it.

    A couple miles up ahead, traffic slowed down to about 20-30 mph, with occasional stops, as the 3 lanes merged into two because of construction. Later on in the day they constrict it down to one lane, so I got lucky, going up there as early as I did. I was in the right lane. About a half-mile before the I-95 exit, traffic in the left lane started moving faster than the traffic in the right lane, so this little white Mazda3 that had been trying to ride up under my truck's bumper for the last few minutes decides to jump into the left lane. Only to get back into the right lane again behind me when the left lane slowed down again. And then he went off on the I-95 exit! Hell, if he knew his exit was coming up that soon, what's the sense in getting back into the left lane? :confuse:

    Oh, and in downtown Baltimore I almost got sideswiped by a dumptruck that tried to change lanes while I was right beside it.

    Then finally, on my way out of Baltimore, I was in a situation where the road went from 3 lanes down to two, and then soon thereafter down to one. Just about everybody had queued up into single-lane file well in advance, but then the empty left lane would fill up occasionally as one of the traffic lights behind us would change and let more cars go through. Now that, I don't have a problem with. But then this little Volvo SUV about 5 or 6 car lengths back decides to jump out of line, into the left lane, and squeeze back in right at the merge point. When I get in situations like that, my general rule is that I'll let ONE car in front of me at the merge point. Anybody else, they can go in behind me. Well, I let that ONE car in, which happened to be the one right in front of the Volvo. The Volvo tried to move up, but was rapidly running out of lane by that time and had no choice but to back off or sideswipe me. So it backed off. The guy in the Ram pickup behind me didn't let the Volvo over either, so I'm guessing he had seen the driver try to cut in line, as well.
  • steverstever Guest Posts: 52,454
    Wait until a bunch of microcars arrive on our shores and people start driving Smarts like motorcycles. :shades:

    Stay safe out there!
  • nightvznnightvzn Member Posts: 232
    But then this little Volvo SUV about 5 or 6 car lengths back decides to jump out of line, into the left lane, and squeeze back in right at the merge point. When I get in situations like that, my general rule is that I'll let ONE car in front of me at the merge point. Anybody else, they can go in behind me.

    I'm sure I've complained about this here before, but in the SF bay area, last-minute merge-point lane changes are the norm. (I, too, will generally let one person in under those circumstances.) I'd hoped that after 4 years here, I'd be used to such selfish road manners, but it still gives me a proverbial headache whenever I'm slowed down to stop-and-go only because everybody's in such a hurry, they've got to stay in their lane until the last instant ... thereby slowing EVERYBODY down ... :sick:
  • andre1969andre1969 Member Posts: 26,093
    Wait until a bunch of microcars arrive on our shores and people start driving Smarts like motorcycles.

    Ooh, it'll be fun to watch those bounce harmlessly off my truck! :P Well, harmless for me, at least. :surprise:
  • andre1969andre1969 Member Posts: 26,093
    Wait until a bunch of microcars arrive on our shores and people start driving Smarts like motorcycles.

    Ooh, it'll be fun to watch those bounce harmlessly off my truck! :P Well, harmless for me, at least. :surprise:
  • patpat Member Posts: 10,421
    Ooh, it'll be fun to watch those bounce harmlessly off my truck!

    I'm scared to death of those little things! It's hard to see how the "bounce" could actually be harmless! :P
  • imidazol97imidazol97 Member Posts: 27,714
    The recent video of a Smart hitting an angled concrete barrier at ?70? mph doesn't impress me yet. The laws of physics aren't going to be on your side.

    GM should build and market something like this for the people wanting small cars.
    small car link-click me

    2014 Malibu 2LT, 2015 Cruze 2LT,

  • steverstever Guest Posts: 52,454
    Maybe it depends on how you drive them. :shades:
  • patpat Member Posts: 10,421
    Hahahaha, great video!! But I'd truly be more worried about how the bazillion-pound other vehicles are driven around me... :sick: :shades:
  • imidazol97imidazol97 Member Posts: 27,714
    I hope people realize there's a great video of "little" cars in the link
    in
    Steve's
    post.
    It's
    cool;
    Click here for Steve's Smart-sized cars.

    2014 Malibu 2LT, 2015 Cruze 2LT,

  • xwesxxwesx Member Posts: 17,758
    I am just about to sell my new car, so last night I decided to wash it up real nice and install the "splash guards" before photographing it.

    My wife had a prenatal visit at the birthing clinic first thing this morning. She parked just outside the front door, with a car parked about 1/2 space away on the right. My son and I were constantly switching from inside to out in order to help with his restlessness (tough to sit still long at <3). After about 30 minutes, the first car leaves, and soon after a white pickup pulls in and parks about 30" off the right side. 20 minutes later, that truck leaves (though I did not see her go). The next car that pulls in is an old white Colt, which also parks to the right, but again about 1/2 space away (not sure why there is this chronic desire to park haphazardly, other than, perhaps, habit from winter!). A few minutes later, I start to open the rear right side door when I notice a white "scuff" on the side of an otherwise mirrored finish. It looked like powder or something, so I rub it off to reveal a quarter-sized dent in my door - compliments of the blonde gal in the white truck! AARRRGGGGGHHH!!!

    I know her license plate number, as I have this uncanny habit of noting such mundane details (note that, at the time, I had no idea that I would ever need this information). So, here is my question - what should I do? Should I let it go? Should I find out ownership info from DMV and call her up to "discuss" it? Will a small dent like that hurt my potential resale value? Keep in mind that this car is 3.5 months old, and this is now literally the only blemish on it. My initial thought is that this small dent will materially damage the resale value because it is so noticeable on an otherwise perfect car. :mad:
    2018 Subaru Crosstrek, 2014 Audi Q7 TDI, 2013 Subaru Forester, 2013 Ford F250 Lariat D, 1976 Ford F250, 1969 Chevrolet C20, 1969 Ford Econoline 100
  • nightvznnightvzn Member Posts: 232
    Ahh, the scourge of the inconsiderate parker.

    First question, why are you selling your new car?? Not that it's any of my business, but it's not too often people buy a new car and then sell it a short time later...

    Second, if you were a raging hot-head, I'd say that getting in touch with her might be a bad idea. But from all your posts, you seem like a very calm and reasonable person (unless this is a carefully cultivated illusion :)), and honestly, I don't see why not. You might not get anywhere with it, and you probably don't have any legal leverage, but who knows -- every once in a while, you find decent people out there. Just be prepared to receive nothing but attitude in return.

    Otherwise, I'm sorry to hear about this. Just today, I found a small scratch on my door. My Subaru WRX is barely half a year old, and it's accumulated a few scratches and dings (that fortunately show up only from just the right angle). It's a shame we have to deal with such careless people!
  • xwesxxwesx Member Posts: 17,758
    Yeah, normally I would not be overly miffed about a door ding (honestly, I am surprised it had not happened before today!), but this one was just so.... blatantly inconsiderate. For one, it was in an incredibly low-use, low-key parking lot. Not like the local supermarket or Wal-Mart! Second, she was parked at least two feet away! It takes some serious absentmindedness, or even a little effort, to allow one's door to swing so fully open at speed. And, it did not happen on her way into the clinic, as I was sitting only feet away and did not hear any contact. It is even more ridiculous to hit a door entering a vehicle than exiting, IMO.

    No, I am a very level-headed fella when talking to people. If I feel I am at an impasse, I just quickly end the conversation and move on. If it is something that needs re-addressing, I will get back to it after a chance to re-assess strategy.

    I more wanted to let this person know that such carelessness DOES affect people, and that she is not living in a bubble. Perhaps she will make more of an effort the next time around to consider others along with herself.

    It is tough to "prove" a hit-and-run, let alone a small door-ding, so if there would be any restitution, it would be strictly a matter of good faith on the other person's part. I would, of course, decline any compensation (unless she wants to buy my car!), but I cannot shake the feeling that I will get less for the car now. People hate door dings - even in Alaska.

    As for selling the car, it is just too mediocre to retain. I can get mediocre in an old beater - I am not going to settle for it in a new car. I love to drive it, as it has great response, pickup, and feedback. But, that is just not enough for me. Mechanically, it is great. Fit and finish, it is poor. People like Subarus up here though, so I suspect that there will be people happy to get a "new" Subaru at a decently discounted price. Having a warranty is great, but having to use it for piddly stuff and taking it to the shop over and over for the same problem (which is never fixed due to "the wrong part") leaves a bad taste in my mouth. Or maybe that was just lunch. :P

    Also, to be honest, we are having a second child in October. I fully suspect that she will not be working for a good while after that (like several years), and I just do not want the burden of monthly payments on a car that I only find mediocre. I have enough things to burden me; I will have to be very passionate about a car to tolerate it being among those.
    2018 Subaru Crosstrek, 2014 Audi Q7 TDI, 2013 Subaru Forester, 2013 Ford F250 Lariat D, 1976 Ford F250, 1969 Chevrolet C20, 1969 Ford Econoline 100
  • nightvznnightvzn Member Posts: 232
    Wow, I have to wonder if you just ended up with a lemon. I've had my Subaru for only about half a year, but it is a true Timex (and given that it is a WRX, I drive it pretty hard). My mom has had great reliability from her Forester for about six years now.

    The interior in both cars is a bit cheap, but they're based on the econo-car Impreza. I've been behind the wheel of two new Outbacks (that's what you have, right?), and I was blown away by the interior quality/refinement. Even better than my pre-WRX Maxima.

    Anyway .. good luck if you end up reaching this person.
  • xwesxxwesx Member Posts: 17,758
    I liked my '96. Tried to buy another one - identical to the last - but the owner was in Anchorage and was a little concerned that I knew a little too much about them. I think it was having a head gasket issue because as soon as I told him I would pay his asking price pending my inspection of it to be confident that its gaskets were in order, he jumped ship and sold it to someone else. I would have purchased it either way - just would not have paid as much if it had bad gaskets.

    Anyway, the interior refinement is nice. I like it. The seats are wonderful. It just rattles like a heavy metal band and the dealership causes more damage "fixing" the rattles than it helps resolve. Most people would probably be happy with it. I am not. I expected a car 11 years newer and the same model as my last to be a giant leap forward - instead it was just different. Not better, just different.

    But, the pregnancy was a blind-side (about 3 weeks after purchasing the Outback). I was going to buy a different new car until that soaked in. Now I think I will just go back to a beater until we find a new car that we both like. No, both love. It is easy to settle for annoyances with a beater - not so easy for a new car (I have now found). 3-5 years from now, it will likely be a Subaru, but not necessarily. I will have to have it for a day or two before purchase, and it will definitely be in the middle of winter! ;)

    I am not sorry that I purchased it, but I expect that I will be sorry if I do not go with my gut on this one and sell it.

    As for the IP (inconsiderate parker), I will try to contact her. Just for the peace of mind. No insults, no berating, just a friendly FYI and a plea to use more care.
    2018 Subaru Crosstrek, 2014 Audi Q7 TDI, 2013 Subaru Forester, 2013 Ford F250 Lariat D, 1976 Ford F250, 1969 Chevrolet C20, 1969 Ford Econoline 100
  • steverstever Guest Posts: 52,454
    Seems like many people are more careful when the cars are crammed in a bit tight. Maybe the wind caught her door and it got away from her - no excuse for not apologizing though.

    But still, you're in Fairbanks. You can't live there and worry about dings. :shades:

    Oh yeah, my '97 OB came from Anchorage back in '03. I knew the car from day one though and talked a friend into selling it to me.
  • 210delray210delray Member Posts: 4,721
    Will the DMV actually provide the name of the person who dinged your car?

    I know with VA it isn't done on a routine basis because of privacy and stalking issues (and I think this is a good thing). OTOH, if you're a victim of hit-and-run, and you have the license number, reporting it to the the police and your insurance company is certainly called for.

    Unfortunately, a door ding probably isn't a high enough threshold to count as hit-and-run. But I certainly sympathize with you, especially after all you've been through -- I hate to get that first door ding as well!
  • xwesxxwesx Member Posts: 17,758
    I am not sure. I know that a friend of mine was involved in a situation a few years back where he was on a motorcycle and a sedan pulled out in front of him (and I mean RIGHT in front of him!). He managed to avoid it, but ended up having to lay it down in order to do so. Tore his bike up pretty bad, but the lady driving turned around to see if he was okay. When he was, she took off. He got the plate and reported it to the police. A couple weeks went by and they kept telling him the plates were wrong. He went to DMV and they gave him the names/address of the owners. He went there to get insurance info, and finds out the husband is a retired Trooper. Mystery solved, but no compensation without the support of the police because the insurance company considered it a "ghost vehicle." Hmm.... sounds familiar! :sick:

    Anyway, I am going to call in a few minutes (when they are open) to find out. It is worth a try anyway, as it is rather rare to actually know who gave you a door dent.
    2018 Subaru Crosstrek, 2014 Audi Q7 TDI, 2013 Subaru Forester, 2013 Ford F250 Lariat D, 1976 Ford F250, 1969 Chevrolet C20, 1969 Ford Econoline 100
  • imidazol97imidazol97 Member Posts: 27,714
    >A couple weeks went by and they kept telling him the plates were wrong. He went to DMV and they gave him the names/address of the owners. He went there to get insurance info, and finds out the husband is a retired Trooper.

    So much for honesty on the part of police.

    I noticed yesterday the sheriff's car from the next country was driving ten over in the city on the interstate while most drivers were within 5 of the speed limit. No emergency, probably just picking up a prisoner or appearing the county court.

    2014 Malibu 2LT, 2015 Cruze 2LT,

  • ruking1ruking1 Member Posts: 19,826
    ..."I noticed yesterday the sheriff's car from the next country was driving ten over in the city on the interstate while most drivers were within 5 of the speed limit. No emergency, probably just picking up a prisoner or appearing the county court. "...

    Well I see good news here! Since that person and others of the same ilk are the ones that can issue speeding tickets by your (local) laws, it is a no brainer they were not ticketing for going 10 mph over. :)
  • jensadjensad Member Posts: 388
    Good moring ruking

    Hope all is well with you driving those freeways.

    xwesx I hope your friend did not get to banged up on his motorcycle. I got dumped twice on my personal motor and then decided to sell it.

    You posters are probably right in that the law enforcement drivers who go over the speed limit will probably not get cited. When I was on the "force", (grateful to be alive and retired too) I also did not issue citations to other officers, judges, and legislators. I stopped both and after determining their status, I gave them a verbal warning and left.

    This was the unwritten rule of professional courtesy. Granted some of you may jump on me, but am being honest with all of you. I realize that it must be very frustrating to see the double standard.

    I see the double std. in all of our society and the world, (no this is not a rationalization, just a comment on the world we live in) and I too get angry at the unequalness.

    And I think it is wonderful for all of us to use this forum to get rid of some the insanity and stupidity we all deal with as we drivers. And the fun part is that we are all over this nation, and yet we can meet here.

    Good luck to all and stay safe.

    jensad
  • ruking1ruking1 Member Posts: 19,826
    ..."Good moring ruking

    Hope all is well with you driving those freeways."...

    And a fine one to you! All is actually well on this side. Seems the news and buzz is about the 3.00 per gal(above) unleaded regular. Sure glad I did a trip to Vegas BEFORE the rise. The roads to and from were wonderful, except on the approach side to Las Vegas as they were and continue to do some pretty noticable road work. Just saw one biggie accident that had 4 CHP on scene. I am surmising the driver "probably fell asleep" on the way to Vegas, but in any event went off the road into the Mojave Desert landscape and flora. In addition to the 4 CHP cars they had a tow truck on scene seemingly trying to drag it onto the flat bed. No helo or ambulance, so I trust no major injuries.
  • xwesxxwesx Member Posts: 17,758
    jensad - I see nothing wrong with professional courtesy re: speeding, but a good "warning" regarding professional responsibility would certainly be in order. ;)

    As for professional courtesy in an event that involves property or personal damage - if the officer/spouse was at fault, they need to be held liable for the damages just like anyone else. Otherwise, it really undermines the integrity of the officers out there trying to do their jobs and do them well.

    My friend was fine, as he was wearing proper attire for the ride, but his bike was damaged badly (cosmetic), so when he sold it he took a huge hit in value. He never got it fixed because the damage was nearly as much as he paid for the bike. :sick:
    2018 Subaru Crosstrek, 2014 Audi Q7 TDI, 2013 Subaru Forester, 2013 Ford F250 Lariat D, 1976 Ford F250, 1969 Chevrolet C20, 1969 Ford Econoline 100
  • imidazol97imidazol97 Member Posts: 27,714
    >As for professional courtesy in an event that involves property or personal damage

    As for being professional..., issuing them the same ticket any other driver would get is the professional thing to do. In Cincy in the last 5 years or so there have been several accidents by police or firemen driving drunk and being treated specially. The last one I recall was on I71 at the entrance to the tunnel a few months back.

    Again the professional thing is to treat them the same. That was my professional responsibility when I had to make those decisions in my profession.

    The extreme is that these few people continue to do things that are against the law and against their professionalism, but get by with it and eventually someone else is hurt.

    2014 Malibu 2LT, 2015 Cruze 2LT,

  • 210delray210delray Member Posts: 4,721
    A good example, but apparently something will be done about it, is the recent crash in NJ involving a state trooper driving Gov. Corzine. The event data recorder determined that the Suburban was traveling 91 mph just before the crash.

    The other drivers were just trying to get out of the way when the collision occurred, with the Suburban hitting a guardrail at 30 mph, again according to the EDR. Corzine wasn't belted and was severely injured. He's lucky to be alive.

    And what was the "emergency?" They were rushing to the governor's mansion for a meeting between Imus and the Rutger's women's basketball team. :sick:
  • xwesxxwesx Member Posts: 17,758
    There is discretion involved with every potential citation event (in other words, folks do not always receive a ticket when they are pulled over, even though most of the time they could), so there is nothing wrong with issuing a warning for speeding. If it was a daily, or even weekly/monthly occurrence, then that would over-step the lines of professional courtesy and enter the "turning a blind eye" realm. I think it is entirely situation-dependent.

    I was just saying that dismissing responsibility where someone is liable for injury or damage to someone/something else steps way over the line of courtesy.
    2018 Subaru Crosstrek, 2014 Audi Q7 TDI, 2013 Subaru Forester, 2013 Ford F250 Lariat D, 1976 Ford F250, 1969 Chevrolet C20, 1969 Ford Econoline 100
  • redmaxxredmaxx Member Posts: 627
    Expensive cars make for careless drivers. At least, it seems that way sometimes. I'm test driving an SUV yesterday and I watched a woman in a brand new BMW cut off a semi and drift into the left lane. And then today, in the car I'm getting ready to try to trade in, some woman in an expensive Mercedes turned out right in front of me at a light. She made the turn at all of 10 MPH and did not speed up despite my laying on the horn. I could not change lanes since the idiot in the oncoming turn lane started turning when I entered the intersection. Since we were approaching a construction zone, she is lucky they reduced the speed limit to 35, had I been going the usual 45, I would have plowed into her. So right after her turn, she gets half-way into a right hand turn lane for a business. As I go by, she looks at me with a blank stare. And neither of these two were doing anything else. WTH? Some people...
  • snakeweaselsnakeweasel Member Posts: 19,592
    One thing I have to ask, were you in the car when it was dinged or did you see it happen? From your description I would say no. If thats the case it may be difficult to prove that they did it. It would be hard to prove that she did it and it just wasn't something you didn't notice before.

    2011 Hyundai Sonata, 2014 BMW 428i convertible, 2015 Honda CTX700D

  • oldfarmer50oldfarmer50 Member Posts: 24,357
    My pet peeve is the driver who darts out in front of you requiring you to slam on the brakes. Then they do 15mph. down the road like they are the only one in the world.

    If they wanted to take slow crawl, what was the hurry in the first place?

    Thank goodness that I am perfect or else something bad might happen.

    2019 Kia Soul+, 2015 Mustang GT, 2013 Ford F-150, 2000 Chrysler Sebring convertible

  • imidazol97imidazol97 Member Posts: 27,714
    I had a truck pull out in front of me at a stoplight. His was red. He slowly came out with the hopper on the front slowly pulling into my lane and then I had slammed on the brakes and the whole truck was there. Then he pulled all the way over onto the berm to pick up the garbage about 200 feet from the 135 degree intersection where he pulled out.

    I'm in a bright red car with DRLs and he didn't see me? I stopped. Wrote down the truck number, noted the 800 number for the Waste company and proceeded to call that as I motored on down into the city. I'm wondering if because he's on the right side of the truck and I was behind his truck by 45 degrees by the way the highways meet that he couldn't see me coming or he just thought a red light meant wander on out.

    2014 Malibu 2LT, 2015 Cruze 2LT,

  • snakeweaselsnakeweasel Member Posts: 19,592
    The thing that I really noticed though is that a lot of these pull-overs have happened right in front of my house.

    You do realize that the police are actually watching you. They just pull people over so it looks like something else, but all the while they are actually staking out your house. :P

    I have noticed one certain road that crosses the county line (city limits too) that has had a lot of people pulled over when there was never any activity before. They are getting people as they pass over the city limits. The odd thing is is that the speed limit increases from 45 to 50. Yet they are able to nab people because even in the 45 zone people are going 60-65.

    2011 Hyundai Sonata, 2014 BMW 428i convertible, 2015 Honda CTX700D

  • andre1969andre1969 Member Posts: 26,093
    I saw something kind of ironic. It was a copcar-looking Crown Vic with "Accident investigation unit" labeling on the side and local government plates. For a little while it was doing about 10 mph over the speed limit. Then it tailgated a car. And then it got in front of another car and rapidly slammed on its brakes to make a left turn, with no turn signal.

    Maybe more appropriate lettering would have been "Accident instigation unit?" :confuse:
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