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  • imidazol97imidazol97 Member Posts: 27,675
    They make one row signs. Search for led or lighted display signs, etc.
    Hook it up to your laptop and a power inverter (unless they make 12 volt versions).!!!

    Note the above message about using the rear window washer!!! Wish I had one. Put a little cooking oil in with the washer fluid and squirt away with the rear wiper when tailgated.

    2014 Malibu 2LT, 2015 Cruze 2LT,

  • dougd7dougd7 Member Posts: 71
    Morning commute on US 301/MD 5 just north of Waldorf, MD. Three lanes of heavy traffic prior to the 301/5 split. For this time of morning this is pretty much normal. Pretty much stop and go traffic. I'm in the center lane. About one mile before the split I notice an old Accord passing on the shoulder. Has right turn signal on but there is nothing except a golf cart rental place on that side. Somehow I don't think he's going to be renting a gold cart at that hour of the morning. There is full service Texaco about another 300 yards or so past the golf cart place. As I get to the entrance to the gold cart place I notice aforementioned Accord pulled over in the business entrance with a MD State Trooper parked behind him with lights flashing. For once they caught someone driving on the shoulder! A somewhat frequent occurance in rush hour.
  • gambit293gambit293 Member Posts: 406
    I'm waiting at a light to turn left, facing North for description's sake. Another car to my right is waiting to go straight. Light goes green. Both of us start to pull forward, and then immediately slam on the brakes as a car coming from the East runs the red and tries to turn left in front of both of us. Offending car has stopped and is now backing up out of the intersection. We both proceed again --*SCREECH* again... we both slam on our brakes again (as well as the truck behind me) as a pickup coming from the West tries to run the red. Offending pickup backs up out of the intersection. This whole thing happened in about three seconds.

    This could have been at least a four-car accident, and my car (celica) would've been twisted-metal sandwich. Who knows what would've happened to me and my gf. I'm tempted to wonder if the lights were malfunctioning, but I've never heard of traffic lights malfunctioning like that.

    Maybe people just stop paying attention when the weather is nice. About four minutes later another car turned right on red, cutting me off and almost hitting me as I was turning left on the green arrow...just another chapter...
  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,336
    Phila. just added some red light cameras. One of them is on Roosevelt blvd, one of the most god-awful roads know to man. Who in their right mind would design 2 multi-lan roads, and run them inside each other? Kinda l like a local and express (like the NJ Turnpike), but you can make turns from the inside across the outside.

    Anyway, I digress. Interesting thing is the stats they are publishing. They are just doing warnings at first, and supposedly flagged something like 1,500 violators at one intersection, in just a week or so.

    Knowing the road (and the lunatic drivers), I'm not surprised, but it also seems likely that the lights are timed correctly (that is, the yellow is too short).

    I recall reading somewhere that studies showed that, where there are lots of accidents for running reds, increasing the yellow by a few sections made the intersection significantly safer, with or without the cameras. Of course, the PsTB never considered fixing the light, since that would cut revenue.

    Always follow the $$, and when a politician tells you it isn't about the money (it's for "safety"), it is about the money.

    2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.

  • andyman73andyman73 Member Posts: 322
    I recall reading somewhere that the companies installing the cameras in some areas were reducing the yellow light timer settings. Some where actually investigated and the findings showed it to be true. Apparently the camera companies were sharing in the ticket revenue. So they helped themselves by shortening the yellow timer.

    I think a 10 second yellow, followed by 5 seconds of all reds, before green, would work. They don't need to create new red light runners, they need to catch the ones that drive through after the red is lit.

    Coming to work tonigh, I had 2 RLRs in front of me. One turned R just as we started going. The second turned R on at a No Turn on Red sign, my green was green for 10 seconds or so. And I was close enough that I had to slow down, from 35mph.

    Both should have been nabbed by a camera, and both were definitely not accidental RLRs. Their actions were quite obviously intentional.
  • imidazol97imidazol97 Member Posts: 27,675
    In Dayton if I recall correctly the company with the cameras gets more than the city from the tickets!!! Of course if any city would be dumb enough to agree to that kind of contract, the city of Dayton's commission would be the one to do it.

    If recall hearing talk about Cincinnati adding some. And the council after approval mentioned speeding citations also as a part of the revenue stream they were forcasting--not just red light runner income.

    2014 Malibu 2LT, 2015 Cruze 2LT,

  • tylerjb1tylerjb1 Member Posts: 39
    ... as if anyone cares, but it will make me feel better posting them:

    1. Left Lane Cloggers. You people truly SUCK. The left lane was not put there so you could have your own personal clear view of the upcoming 2.5 miles. It's there to PASS. Regardless of the speed limit and your actual speed, unless you are moving faster than the traffic on your right, you shouldn't be there!

    2. If I'm in the cruising lane (one lane to the right of the left) and I'm not going fast enough for you, TOO BAD. If I'm going at least the speed limit, get off my butt. If there is a left-lane clogger and you can't pass me, that's between you and him. Ride HIS tail, not mine.

    3. Blinkers are your friend. Use them.

    4. If you can't manage a cell phone/make-up/insert-object-here while driving, then try to restrict your activities behind the wheel to the one that trumps: DRIVING.

    5. The lane markers on the road are not "suggestions". Pick a lane and stick to it. If you need to change, then do it and get it over with. No need to straddle for a mile while you weigh your options.

    6. If you're driving a two lane road and a car is parked along the street in your lane, you are not then automatically entitled to my lane. Wait until you have room (giving preference to cars already in the oncoming lane) and THEN go around the parked vehicle. This is probably my number one pet peeve. For some reason, there are a lot of people out there who think the oncoming lane is actually just their own personal "back-up lane" in case something obstructs their primary lane. Not so, folks!

    7. If you're too old to read your own speedometer, then you're probably too old to see all of the cars on the road flying by you at 65+ miles per hour. Driving is not a right, it's a PRIVILAGE. Your own sense of personal freedom is not more important than the lives of my wife and children. If you get an average of two honks per mile, it's time to hang up the towel.

    I know this post isn't very PC, but sometimes you just have to calls it as you sees it.
  • loncrayloncray Member Posts: 301
    Are ashtrays too technical to use these days? Or does smoking make you stupid? If you smoke and you toss your butt out on the road, you're littering. And I bet you don't even give it a second thought. That's my pet peeve - if you're too stupid to use an ashtray (or a turn signal), you're too stupid to drive. If you don't use it because of the smell, you're very rude to insist on sharing that smell with everyone else.
  • andyman73andyman73 Member Posts: 322
    I got to spend a little time behind one of those "I'm in front so I set the speed limit" types, so we all got to enjoy a leisurely 10 mile below the limit drive. Fortunately for me, my turn off came up rather quickly! :)
  • ANT14ANT14 Member Posts: 2,687
    And the ironic part, if you blink high beams at them, they are unaware of what they are doing. Then when you finally are able to pass around them on the right lane and cut them off because you've had it already, they suddenly give you this look like "What's wrong with you". Or if you just simply pass them using the emergency lane, they are shocked from such a manuever, YET... they STILL don't get it.
  • andyman73andyman73 Member Posts: 322
    I was okay, the 4 cars between acted as a nice buffer. :)

    On the other hand, I did see an overly aggressive tailgater, the other day. Weaving back in forth in the lane, the harrassed never sped up, eventually turned off. Tailgater was so close that even letting off the gas or downshifting, would have cause the 'gater to hit them.

    Some people's children!
  • tylerjb1tylerjb1 Member Posts: 39
    I agree about the smokers... these selfish twits think that it's okay to dump their trash on the side of the road because they don't want to stink up the inside of their own car.

    These are the same people that pull out onto a 3 lane road without even thinking to look to see if someone's coming.

    These are the same people who yap on the cell phone in the fast lane doing variable speed tests between 35mph and 95mph.

    These are the same people that hold up the entire drive-thru at McDonald's while they check to make sure everything is in the bag (heaven forbid they pull into a parking spot to do that).

    These are the same people that, when they realize they are 20 ft. from missing their exit, jolt across a four lane highway to make it, all while flicking everyone off who dares to honk at them.

    These are the selfish twits who believe the roads were built for their own personal use, and you and I were put on them for their on personal amusement.
  • imidazol97imidazol97 Member Posts: 27,675
    >McDonald's while they check to make sure everything is in the bag

    Ouch. I check the bag (at Wendy's, wouldn't touch McDonalds) but I've never smoked. I just got tired of not having everything in the bag. AND I'll keep checking the bag, thank you. LOLWROF

    >These are the same people that pull out onto a 3 lane road without even thinking to look to see if someone's coming.

    They're too busy finding their next cigarette or their lighter to check on-coming traffic.

    >These are the same people who yap on the cell phone in the fast lane doing variable speed tests between 35mph and 95mph.

    We're being too critical. We have to understand it's hard to hold a cellphone and smoke a cigarette at the same time, especially while trying to punch in a number to dial. Changing lanes to the right is dangerous!!! and a truck might hit them if they're in the right lane at 55, the speed limit.

    2014 Malibu 2LT, 2015 Cruze 2LT,

  • tylerjb1tylerjb1 Member Posts: 39
    (As I read through the beginning of this thread, I'm reminded of more...)

    - Cops who think the rules don't apply to them. I actually see this quite a bit in my area (Columbus/Dublin/Hilliard, Ohio). They speed recklessly, run lights (with or without sirens, depending on their current whim), tailgate, you name it. I couldn't tell you the last time I saw a cop actually wait out an entire red light. I'm 27 now, but I remember when I was about 20, I would go to my girlfriend's house about 10 miles from my home. I usually left around midnight to come home. I'm not a speeder and I've always been a pretty good driver. The one thing I really have no tolerance for is tailgaters. I was driving a banged up 84 Audi at the time. Routinely, I would be driving home on a long stretch of road that had two lanes and many intersections. On 3 separate occassions, I found myself alone on the road with only one other vehicle... and that vehicle would insist on tailgating me. Being the 20 year old intolerant driver of a beater, I slammed on my breaks each time. All 3 times, the car had to swerve to avoid an accident (I wasn't doing break checks, I was doing break SLAMS). Well, the car would zip past me, and behold, it was a COP all 3 times!!! Given that it was pitch black outside and all I could see were headlights, I had no idea they were cops until they darted around me. None of them had the stones to look me in the eye when they passed.

    I don't want to paint all cops with the same brush, but around here, I have little respect for the majority of them. I'm a law abiding citizen, but they've earned this image.

    - Drivers who block intersections. Look, even if the light is green, you shouldn't pull into the intersection unless you can clear it. The exception, of course, is if you're making a left turn. Once your light turns, you can expect to clear it. But if you're going straight and the traffic is backed up, don't pull in to an intersection if you'll cause to block it if the light turns on you.

    - Related to the previous note, if you are stopped at a red light and you encounter one of the 6 drivers in the world who has enough courtesy to not block the intersection so you can go through on a green light, don't be a jackass and turn in front of him/her. I think this is by far one of the rudest acts on the road. Pure selfishness. Someone goes out of their way to do you right, and you screw them. Not cool at all. Going back to my early 20's when I was still driving my beater, some punk tried to do this to me. I already had front end damage (purchased that way), so a minor fender bender with no injuries would actually benefit me financially.

    You know the rest. I'm not that stupid anymore, but I can't help but grin when I think about it.
  • tylerjb1tylerjb1 Member Posts: 39
    "Ouch. I check the bag (at Wendy's, wouldn't touch McDonalds) but I've never smoked. I just got tired of not having everything in the bag. AND I'll keep checking the bag, thank you. LOLWROF"

    Honestly, if it can be done quickly, it doesn't bother me. It's the soccer moms with 6 kids in the car (who are already being inconsdirate when they hit the drive-thru at lunch hour with Eve's entire extended family in the vehicle) who find it necessary to pull everything out of the bags, double-check it, and distribute it... all without moving an inch.
  • gambit293gambit293 Member Posts: 406
    >We're being too critical. We have to understand it's hard to hold a cellphone and smoke a cigarette at the same time, especially while trying to punch in a number to dial.

    I had a friend who took great pride in being able to steer his Blazer with his knees while doing other stuff such as taking calls, eating, and shifting.
  • mirthmirth Member Posts: 1,212
    Okay, here's my drive-thru pet peeves:

    1. If you're ordering something "special" (e.g. A Big Mac with no onion, just mustard, and no bun, etc.), do NOT go through the drive-thru! It takes them forever to produce these special orders (Wendy's being an exception). Inside, other people can get their order while you wait for yours, but not in the drive-thru.

    2. If you're ordering for more than 2, maybe 3, people, do it inside too. There are usually more cashiers in there and the line has more room to back up then in the parking lot.

    3. Finally, if you don't know what you want, go inside so we don't have to wait for you to read the entire menu.
  • tylerjb1tylerjb1 Member Posts: 39
    Preach it, brotha!
  • li_sailorli_sailor Member Posts: 1,081
    ...had a friend who took great pride in being able to steer his Blazer with his knees...

    What's so hard about that? ;-)
  • euphoniumeuphonium Member Posts: 3,425
    The poster demanding others to adhere to
    "Keep Right Except to Pass" chooses to ignore the "Speed LIMIT". The Rules of the Roads are not a cafeteria situation.
  • gee35coupegee35coupe Member Posts: 3,387
    Aren't affecting anyone else. The behaviour of the people that refuse to keep right IS having an adverse effect to other people. That's the difference.
  • seminole_kevseminole_kev Member Posts: 1,696
    that's great. Is your speedometer calibrated to the MPH? Just curious when you block people at 65 when you're really doing 62..........
  • imidazol97imidazol97 Member Posts: 27,675
    A law is a law. That's true whether you believe your speeding is not affecting someone else or not.

    2014 Malibu 2LT, 2015 Cruze 2LT,

  • imidazol97imidazol97 Member Posts: 27,675
    A law is a law. That's true whether you believe your speeding is affecting someone else or not.

    2014 Malibu 2LT, 2015 Cruze 2LT,

  • andre1969andre1969 Member Posts: 26,023
    while both are laws, the primary purpose of most speed limits is revenue, pure and simple. Safety is purely secondary. However, keeping slower traffic to the right and having faster traffic pass on the left is all about safety and smooth flow.

    That's the difference...safety versus revenue.
  • imidazol97imidazol97 Member Posts: 27,675
    Safety is a primary factor in setting speed limits. They also are set at the 85% level in many cases, as explained to me by the county engineer.

    2014 Malibu 2LT, 2015 Cruze 2LT,

  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,414
    "Safety is a primary factor in setting speed limits."

    Funniest thing I've read all day

    If safety was primary, limits would be 45mph-ish, a speed where you can be buckled up and crash, and still have a good chance of surviving with little serious injury.

    A law is not a law. Everything is not equal. The knowledge, credentials, and motives of those setting the laws need to be examined.
  • carlisimocarlisimo Member Posts: 1,280
    "Safety is a primary factor in setting speed limits."

    It makes more sense if you think that they probably base the limits on the lowest common denominators (of cars and drivers), or more precisely a bottom percentile. On some roads, anyway... the ones where police tolerate the "5-10 over" rule or a little more on some freeways. My interpretation of not getting pulled over is that the cops think I'm safe enough when I do that.

    But it's a hard game to play, and one whose existence is rather absurd, when we guess on which roads they'll enforce the limits harshly, and on which roads they won't.
    Just raise our taxes to make it less random, and up the limits to what the police and 85th percentile of drivers feel is safe.
  • imidazol97imidazol97 Member Posts: 27,675
    >Funniest thing I've read all day

    Fintail. Please just ignore my posts and don't respond to them. I grow weary of the ridicule each time. I'll do the same for your posts.

    2014 Malibu 2LT, 2015 Cruze 2LT,

  • grbeckgrbeck Member Posts: 2,358
    ...in setting speed limits, Montana would have gone back to its "reasonable and prudent" rule, as fatalities dropped to a record low at one point when that law was in effect. When Montana imposed a statewide 75 mph speed limit, fatalities ROSE.

    As has been explained before, blocking the passing lane is rude and boorish behavior, even if the drivers behind the offending driver are exceeding the speed limit. Sophisticated, informed drivers do not block the passing lane, and experience their vicarious law enforcement thrills by watching reruns of COPS.
  • euphoniumeuphonium Member Posts: 3,425
    among the highway anarchists attempting to rationalize their left lane dominance above and beyond the posted, legal, authorized speed limit is to be laughed at while trying to convince others to "get out of my way." (All of your arguments are all wet as the law is the law and that's it.)
  • seminole_kevseminole_kev Member Posts: 1,696
    Again, how much did it cost to have your speedometer verified to the MPH? I would like to have that done, but have no idea what it costs. What speed is it guaranteed accurate to?
  • imidazol97imidazol97 Member Posts: 27,675
    I watched a Sunday driver on 3 lane I75 solve the problem of left laners who were going above the speed limit and the other lanes 'filled' with traffic as well. He zipped in and out making dangerous lane changes rather than getting behind the cars in the lanes and flashing his lights, tailgating, and acting frustrated that he couldn't dominate. He had a black Mercedes-not big but not one of the mini ones. He zipped in and out to gain a few hundred feet. Must have used 10 gallons of gas with all that full throttle acceleration.

    But at least he didn't try to force people out of the lanes. Although he sure was dangerous.

    2014 Malibu 2LT, 2015 Cruze 2LT,

  • imidazol97imidazol97 Member Posts: 27,675
    speeders are a major problem in this area. A lot of north-south traffic believes they have to make it Florida in one day and drive that way. It's always interesting when the OSP airplane is out to check speed and improper driving (lane-changes) from the air. It's such a surprise to them when they get pulled over. It's nice to see all that money coming to help our communities and schools make ends meet.

    2014 Malibu 2LT, 2015 Cruze 2LT,

  • seminole_kevseminole_kev Member Posts: 1,696
    safety or revenue?
  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,414
    "I grow weary of the ridicule each time."

    It wasn't meant on a personal level. Simmer down now.

    Other than in congested areas and school zones, I don't see many places where speed limits are about safety over money. That's it.

    "the law is the law and that's it"

    The US would never have been born with such thought. Again, one should really question the motivation and qualifications of those setting such laws/taxes. These people care about safety over money? To put it nicely....that's a big load of manure.
  • grbeckgrbeck Member Posts: 2,358
    This summer I drove on the Autobahn. Germans actually know something about lane discipline, and wouldn't dare block a faster driver. I felt safer on the Autobahn traveling at 90 mph, with Benzes and BMWs whizzing by at 100+ mph, than I do on an American interstate, meandering along at 65 mph behind a left lane camper.

    But then, Germans take driving seriously, which is why they don't tolerate ridiculously low speed limits, left lane campers, or mobile monuments to mediocrity (say, 85 percent of GM's North American lineup).
  • ANT14ANT14 Member Posts: 2,687
    I don't think it's hard to understand...if the speed limit is 70MPH, and you are driving on the left (passing lane), and the vehicle on the right lane is also doing 70MPH... can we admit there's a problem with this picture?

    I mean, is it REALLY that hard to speed up to let's say 73MPH, so you overtake the vehicle on the right lane, then merge into the right lane and settle back to 70MPH. Is that a scary thought?

    Are people afraid they will lose brownie points with god because "GASP" they disobeyed the speed limit by 3MPH. Are they afraid they will lose the membership to the "holyier than thou" club once they found out they broke the law (even though behind close doors, they probably are the biggest hypocrits you will encounter).

    I think it all boils down to simple consideration. If your being a road hog and taking the left lane at the same speed as the vehicle on the right lane, can we agree your just NOT being considerate? So...

    In return, I TOO will be inconsierate in return and ... A) Pass the vehicle using the emergency lane and cut them off so they get the hint or B) Cut them off dramatically using the right lane, maybe send the person a hint.

    When one of the above actions is employed, do NOT be upset at me for being inconsiderate...I'm just returning the favor.

    They flash high beams at you, they are riding your rear bumper, they are blaring the horn at you... I think it SHOULD send the signal that your just not being co-operative in this world of driving. I personally just ask for the same decency in return. If I'm passing a vehicle in the left lane, BUT I see someone going much quicker, about to get even closer to me, yet I still have about 5 cars on my right lane to pass A) I either slam the gas and go ahead and do a CORRECT passing manuever, or B) Settle inbetween 2 vehicles, let the other person pass, then I merge back on the left lane and continue my passing manuever.

    It's just plain decency and consideration. And I'm not bring up the "OH I don't want to break the law by speeding 2 MPH over the speed limit" Clan... because A) At some point you have, I promise you. YOUR NOT that perfect and it's ok to admit it. B) If your not breaking speed limit laws, chances are your running red lights, stop signs, etc because your NOT that perfect.

    BTW just a tip.... a Scion was NOT ment to pass vehicles doing 75MPH+ I mean, the driver was REALLY trying and was probably redlining the engine to try and pass vehicles and it was NOT WORKING.

    So another point... LEARN your vehicles limitations. Because you can pass a bicycle on the street, doesn't mean you can pass other vehicles at much higher speeds. Sorry, just HAD to throw that in there. :)
  • andyman73andyman73 Member Posts: 322
    Which Scion was it, xA or xB? My old 91 Civic DX hatch, had 90hp 1.5 16valve, and 4M, would do 90-95 fairly easily, but had to fight going down hill to hit 100mph.

    I can't imagine driving a car that struggles to hit 75, especially on todays interstates. Talk about inconsiderate.
  • ANT14ANT14 Member Posts: 2,687
    I think it's xB, the one that looks like a rollin' coffin.
  • andyman73andyman73 Member Posts: 322
    Well, with that wind risistant front area, I can understand.
  • imidazol97imidazol97 Member Posts: 27,675
    >A) Pass the vehicle using the emergency lane and cut them off so they get the hint or B) Cut them off dramatically using the right lane, maybe send the person a hint.

    Passing in the emergency lane is illegal.
    Cutting them off is illegal.

    Staying with the flow of traffic is NOT illegal.

    2014 Malibu 2LT, 2015 Cruze 2LT,

  • ANT14ANT14 Member Posts: 2,687
    I totally understand 2 wrongs don't make a right, but if someone is just going to be inconsiderate, I'll do the same. Vehicle on the passing lane going the same speed as the one on the right lane, that's RUDE. So I'll be rude in return.

    Moral Police? 2 wrongs don't make a right, totally correct. But I'm not going for "Human of the year" award, just like they aren't going for "Kindness considerate driver of the year" award, so being the whole plane is going to hell in a burst of fire, I'm at least going to be the co-pilot and have my seat reserved.

    My argument isn't about doing something illegal. EVERYONE does something illegal driving wise. My point is, BE CONSIDERATE and don't hog the lane at the same speed as the vehicle on the right. Be Considerate, that's ALL I'm asking for.
  • seminole_kevseminole_kev Member Posts: 1,696
    I think he's illustrating how this supposed "safe behavior" (blocking the left lane - which still is NOT legal in most states that I know of) causes lots of unsafe behavior.

    Imidazol, did you get the same speedometer calibration as well?
  • imidazol97imidazol97 Member Posts: 27,675
    >Imidazol, did you get the same speedometer calibration as well?

    Can you explain what you mean? I must have missed an earlier explanation. I'll look back through as soon as my coffee/cappucino kicks in.

    BTW: Did I ever say I block the left lane??? Some seem to be thinking that.

    2014 Malibu 2LT, 2015 Cruze 2LT,

  • tylerjb1tylerjb1 Member Posts: 39
    Note: Yes, the law is the law. The speed limit is 65mph (in Ohio). There are also signs posted everywhere that read the following:

    "Keep to the Right"
    "Slower Traffic Keep Right"

    I've yet to encounter a sign that reads, "Keep to the Right Unless Going 65MPH" or "Slower Traffic (< 65MPH) Keep Right".

    The fact of the matter is this: if you're in the left lane and you're NOT passing someone, get your butt over. What speed people want to do in the passing lane is not your concern, and unless you have a BADGE, you're not there to police the rest of the world. Studies show that faster traffic (ie, someone going 80 - 85 in the fast lane) doesn't necessarily result in more accidents or deadlier accidents. What DOES result in deadlier accidents are people who intentionally antagonize other drivers, impede traffic, and generate ROLLING TRAFFIC JAMS. If I'm going 75 in the center lane and you're trolling along at 65 in the passing lane, guess who's getting pulled over?

    STORY 1:

    I was on 270 (central Ohio's outerbelt) and in the passing lane. I was behind a seasoned citizen in a caddy doing 70. Not what I would call "passing speed", since the center lane was probably doing 69.9, but we were passing nonetheless. I'm about 7 car lengths back and I've got a lady glued to my bumper (as if it's my fault this guy won't get out of the way). [Hey look... an example of unsafe conditions caused by an LLC!!!] Anywho, about a quarter mile up the road (we're cresting a hill), Wilford Brimley sees what he thinks is a cop on the shoulder (shoulders on this stretch of highway are enormous, btw) and literally STANDS on his breaks. His wheels lock up. Fabulous. Luckily I'm far enough back that I can break comfortably, but the lady behind me nearly has a heart attack. This twit in front of us slows down to 45mph!!!!!!!! Now, given the fact that I'm not BLIND like the guy in front of me, I'm actually getting a chuckle out of all of this because I can see that it's just some guy in a sedan parked on the shoulder (at a very safe distance from traffic, mind you). Once we get within 100 yards or so, Brimley sees this, too, and gradually resumes his speed of 70mph. I pass him on the right and take note of his facial expression: total and utter ignorance of what he just did, and the sheer idiocy of 1) slamming on your breaks on the highway, and 2) going 45mph on the highway.

    Idiot.

    STORY 2:

    I'm getting close to work and I'm on a two-lane divided road. Both lanes have significant traffic in them, but a lady in a Sentra pulling out from a gas station decides that everyone "make a spot" for her as she casually (read: at 3MPH) pulls out into traffic going 45MPH. She cuts across both lanes and then pulls into a turning lane (the third lane over). She nearly gets t-boned twice, gets honked 3 times, and just coasts to a stop at the light about 300 yards down the road. Thankfully, I'm about 30ft. behind this near catastrophe, but I get an opportunity to look her over when I pass. She's just sitting there grinning like a fool. If I didn't know better, I'd call it gratification.

    Some people just blow my mind, and on top of their inconsideration for people, cars, and physics in general, they have no sense gratitude for the people who routinely spare their lives.
  • andre1969andre1969 Member Posts: 26,023
    about 5 years ago I had to have the speedometer in my '89 Gran Fury calibrated. It was off enough that when it read 91 mph the car was actually doing 100! It ended up costing $70 to do. I think it would've been about half that if they didn't have to adjust it.

    I don't know how they adjust a modern speedo, but on my Gran Fury they just changed a gear. I think they changed it from one that had 27 teeth to one that had 29. Or vice versa. I'm feeling a bit dyslexic this morning. Okay, time to get to get off here and get to work on some budget spreadsheets with lots of big numbers! :-)
  • imidazol97imidazol97 Member Posts: 27,675
    Anecdotal items are nice reading but they don't address the question. Is gross speeding a reason to expect others to clear the left lane for you?

    You post is hard to read because there are no spaces. Paragraphs are your friend.

    I get a sense in your post that you get angry when others don't do what you believe they should do. It's that anger that I often see in the left lane dominators. Typically it's heavy traffic in all 3 lanes, left lane dominator expects a car in left lane to get out of his way so he can move up 150 feet and make the next car in the lane move over and so on down the road. All this and he gains maybe half a mile in 15 miles of traffic into Cincy.

    2014 Malibu 2LT, 2015 Cruze 2LT,

  • andre1969andre1969 Member Posts: 26,023
    In the situation that you describe, with heavy traffic in all 3 lanes, the speed demon should NOT expect the left lane to magically clear. So in those types of cases, I say the hell with 'em.

    If I'm in the left lane, and there are other cars in front of me as far as the eye can see, and somebody is riding my butt, I feel no obligation to move over. Nor do I expect the people in front of me to move over.

    However, sometimes there are exceptions. For example, traffic could be heavy, but still moving at a good clip. In these cases, congestion will form around the left lane camper as people bottleneck up behind him and try to pass on the right, causing the other lanes to have to slow as well.

    And I've lost track of how many times, even on roads with light traffic, a left lane camper will just loaf along, causing congestion because they want to pace the car beside them. The only reason you should get into the left lane to begin with is because you want to go FASTER than the traffic in the slower lanes. If you want to go SLOWER, then just stay to the right and let people pass you on the left as God, mother nature, and the law intended.
  • imidazol97imidazol97 Member Posts: 27,675
    Agreed. That's the point.

    2014 Malibu 2LT, 2015 Cruze 2LT,

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