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  • northlakesnorthlakes Member Posts: 368
    The Freestyle has electronic AWD which you might consider part-time AWD. It electronically monitors all wheels. It normally provides the torque to the front wheels. If the front wheels start to spin faster than the rear, torque is transferred to the rear wheels somewhere between 1 and 100 %, depending on the conditions (within 50 milliseconds is the claim).

    There is also traction control on the Freestyle, but that comes into play is a wheel on one side starts spinning faster than the opposite wheel for the AWD, keeping you going in the direction forward. The two systems work together on the AWD to keep you stable.

    I hope that helps. :shades:
  • freestylegalfreestylegal Member Posts: 70
    Okay guys--I got one for you. My panic alarm started going off while I was unloading my Freestyle. Okay, no problem--figured something heavy in my purse was pushing on the button. Pulled the keys out, pushed the red button so my car would SHUT UP, and it did for about 10 seconds, then started going off again, I shut it off, started up again. So, the neighbors are really loving me at the moment. I don't have any alarm system other than what comes with it (I've never figured out what the perimeter alarm thing is that was listed on the sticker).

    In any case, I stood out there like a damn fool ready to press the panic button every time the alarm started going off. It finally stopped after a couple of minutes, but I got to wondering how long I was going to have to stand there! Not fun and the panic alarm has gone off before for no apparent reason, but it's shut off after one punch of the red button on the key fob. Ideas???? It's LOUD AND OBNOXIOUS and I would really like to know how to make it not do that anymore... :surprise: :cry: :confuse:
  • explorerx4explorerx4 Member Posts: 20,792
    had something similar happen to me with my focus, which also has perimeter alarm. wasn't paying attention and pressed the panic button, instead of trunk unlock. what happened was the panic button was stuck 'on'. the second time it went off, i noticed it was stuck in a crooked position, instead of being flat across the fob.
    does this sound like what happened to you?
    btw, i think the alarm sounds for three minutes, then resets.
    2024 Ford F-150 STX, 2023 Ford Explorer ST, 91 Mustang GT vert
  • freestylegalfreestylegal Member Posts: 70
    Thanks explorerx4.
    Nope, the key fob button wasn't stuck. The key fob was in my purse lying right top and I hadn't used it to lock or unlock anything; just turned the ignition off and stepped out of the car to unload it. I had already taken a trip or two into the house when the panic alarm went off. It as in the afternoon--I hate to think what would happen if it went off at night....
  • explorerx4explorerx4 Member Posts: 20,792
    if the alarm goes off in the middle of the night, just yell out the front door, 'hey, keep your hands off my car'. :)
    2024 Ford F-150 STX, 2023 Ford Explorer ST, 91 Mustang GT vert
  • tim156tim156 Member Posts: 308
    Also from Minneapolis. I picked up my Freestyle on 3/7 and I'm in love with it. Great ride, decent milage (they say it impoves after 1000 mi.) and plenty of room. I traded in a 2004 Ranger and have all the room I need for the stuff I haul. I have the SE with FWD. Didn't have much of a chance to drive in the snow this year but I'm confident it will drive beautifully. All the chatter about lack of power is unfounded as far as I'm concerned. The CVT takes some getting used to but I am very happy with how smooth it is. See you on the road.
  • lumber2lumber2 Member Posts: 184
    Wonder if starting the engine would stop it sounding off.
  • northlakesnorthlakes Member Posts: 368
    Along those lines, on other Fords with security systems, if the driver exits the car with the keys and closes the driver's door, a passenger leaving a few minutes later can set off the alarm. Freestylegal, are you closing the hatch each time you take a load from the Freebie? That may rearm the alarm, and upon reopening, starts a timer (the car may be assuming your key should be in the ignition within that time), and then goes off. Maybe? :shades:
  • tim156tim156 Member Posts: 308
    I've noticed that when I am entering the freeway and begin to accelerate there is a very slight hesitation before the car picks up speed. I have 1100 mi on the car. I'm reading more on the CVT but haven't seen anything about hesitation. Is this normal? Is the belt re-positioning as I step on the gas? Bought my Freestyle about a month ago and love it.
  • mas23mas23 Member Posts: 38
    I've owned my Freestyle for about 3 months now with 1500 miles (and very happy with it). My question is should I get an oil change now or wait. My dealer told me I should get it at about 3000 miles. At this rate it will be about 5-6 months before I will hit that. I usually like to my first oil change a little early, but I guess 3000 miles is earlier than the 5000 Ford recommends.
  • bruneau1bruneau1 Member Posts: 468
    You probably make a lot of short trips; if that is the case, it's better to change the oil more often than what Ford recommends. Short trips cause moisture to build up in the oil. This is a new vehicle; you can help keep it newer longer by frequent oil changes, especially if you intend to keep it for several years. Glad you are happy.
  • freestylegalfreestylegal Member Posts: 70
    "A new face in the family vehicle segment, the Ford Freestyle emerged as a top contender in the Station Wagon category."

    I'm not sure I'm excited about being a station wagon owner, but AAA and Parents Magazine listed the Freestyle as one of the top three family vehicles (along with Mazda 6 Sport Wagaon and Subaru Legacy). Whatever. One of the best cars I ever owned was a Taurus station wagon. The article can be found at MSN.com

    For those posting replies to my panic alarm issues, I'm not sure I'll ever really know the peculiar sequence of events that have caused this to happen twice (once while my husband was idling in the driveway using his key, but he doesn't use a key fob). I approached the passenger side to get in and the panic alarm went off and yes, I did have my key fob in my purse. This is a pattern that we repeat many times, so I'm stumped as to why the alarm went off that particular time.

    RE: do I close the hatch everytime I take a load in the house? No--I don't live in a neighborhood where that's necessary, thank heaven!

    If this is a perimeter alarm issue, is there any way to disable it? I'm afraid to park it and walk away for fear it will "go off." I'm not a believer in alarms, anwyay because I think real crooks who want your car will know what to do to get it. The Freestyle ain't high on the list of stolen cars, nor do I think it's likely to ever be ;)
  • smithdasmithda Member Posts: 1
    When I am descending hills I usually gear down to reduce the wear on the brakes. I was wondering what experiences people have had with the Freestyle's CVT on hill descent. Is the 'low' setting on the shift of any use in these cases? Do you just let the brakes do all the work?

    In some vehicles the cruise control will engine break on hill descents. Does the Freestyle's cruise control act like this?
  • freestylegalfreestylegal Member Posts: 70
    Hi smithda,
    I cannot answer any technical aspect of your question (although I'm sure someone else will) but I drive big hills every day. With my Explorer and Expedition, I would push the "overdrive" button off for extra power going uphill and increased compression (is that the right term?) going downhill. No such thing with the CVT, of course, but I'm amazed at how well the engine brakes itself. With previous cars, I would have the feeling of rolling and gaining speed so I would have to put on my brakes--I do this far less with the Freestyle. I have never used the "low" setting and I really do drive some steep hills. Just one person's experience...
  • freestylegalfreestylegal Member Posts: 70
    Two articles on the Freebie today, so I've gone from "best family station wagon" in one article, to one of the 10 coolest new cars all in one day--it's enough to make me dizzy!!!
    Thanks for the link, willie19 (message #3041)--fun read.
  • barnstormer64barnstormer64 Member Posts: 1,106
    I thought I was going crazy, because occasionally I would hear a faint "whistling" noise in the car. It typically lasted only a few seconds, and I wouldn't even hear it every day. It definitely didn't sound like outside wind noise. Almost like the first part of the door-chime, but much fainter, and it didn't change pitch.

    But I could never figure out what was seeming to cause it (no correlations with anything), nor could I locate exactly where the noise was coming from.

    Today, finally, it started doing it enough that I was finally able to notice that when it started, if I turned of the A/C, it would immediately stop. Also, the noise seemed to be louder if the A/C blower was blowing higher.

    Hopefully this is something that the service managers will recognize instantly and won't be all that difficult to fix.

    For a while, it was more annoying not knowing what it was, and even wondering if I was hearing things. But now it's more frequent, and is louder (at time). Still doesn't last long each time, though.
  • figueroafamilyfigueroafamily Member Posts: 223
    I found this by sheer coincidence. It explains the difference between a CVT (Freebie's) & an IVT (like Torotrak).

    www.cvt.com.sapo.pt/ivt/ivt.htm

    For the record:
    CVT = Continuously Variable Transmission
    IVT = Infinitely Variable Transmission

    The nutshell is that CVT needs a "secondary" gear, Reverse. The forward ranges a traditional "n-gear" transmission covers in steps (gears), the CVT does continuously.

    The IVT doesn't use any secondary gears at all. Even reverse. The operation of the IVT is from Reverse to Top gear. The CVT operates from "1st" to Top gear. A major difference.

    Thus, an IVT can beat a CVT as it's "CVT-ing" far before the later. A regular "n-gear" trans is far behind either.

    This is the link for ANT14's favorite Trans type: www.torotrak.com

    My wish upon a Ford design Star: Duratec 35 + Hybrid + IVT. =)

    Sam ;)
  • northlakesnorthlakes Member Posts: 368
    The Freestyle software does help on downhills. I have found (w/foot off the gas) it lets you gain about 5 mph downhill, then the CVT changes ratio automatically to give some engine braking. The cruise control also will try to maintain speed downhill.

    The "Low Gear" position acts like first gear in most standard automatic transmissions. I dropped the Freebie into low at 30 mph once and watched the tach climb 1500 rpm. Not something to try at freeway speeds. :shades:
  • rbkrbk Member Posts: 2
    Just got a new Freestyle. So far, so good...Limited version, AWD.
    Some suggestions for people purchasing the car...
    We went with the "pebble" interior over the black/charcoal one...for a few reasons. One, the black interior makes the inside of the vehicle really dark. Consider that if you are trying to find something in the vehicle in a low/medium light, like a parking deck...

    The moonroof option removes the special mirror that allows you to see the rear seat passengers. If you have kids, the mirror is very useful....

    The DVD entertainment center is well designed. Positives is the neat way you can activate the IR headsets, but still hear the radio (adults get radio, kids get movie...). Bad news is that it does do a good job of blocking rear visibility. If used at night, the glow from the screen can really prevent you from seeing out the back...side view mirrors only....hopefully for long highway trips, the need to look backwards is low.

    A negative...the car has no side "strip" to block some idiot from dinging the side of the car...some cars have a vinyl side bumper running the length of the car to protect it...I may have to add one...

    The 3rd row rear seat has a fantastic design/fold capability.

    Outside is plain, inside is well designed. We are calling it the Ford "Free-of-style". But loads of practicality.

    Safety package is a worthwhile addition. My wife was in a roll-over (not in the Freestyle). It will change your outlook on side airbags to "must have".

    Rear sensor system is also very worthwhile.
  • bruneau1bruneau1 Member Posts: 468
    The Freestyle has hill calibration to hold a more steady speed. There should be no need to shift to low unless it is very steep and you don't go very fast. And remember, brake pads are cheaper than transmissions.
  • mrlizzzardmrlizzzard Member Posts: 31
    After having 2 vehicles this yr that did not live up to the simple expectations of reliability, economy and nice to drive.The third vehicle has given me a sense of satisfaction in all areas.My Freestyle limited is roomy and quiet,great looking and the milage is approaching 21mpg with no babying from me.I am following this post with a post in exterior cleaning that all should read.

    love is good,
    lizzzard :blush:
  • mrlizzzardmrlizzzard Member Posts: 31
    I had a yacht cleaning business for yrs and detailed many cars for the money,I even sold auto care products.Bought a Free and while in Wallyworld(hate the place) picked up a too bottle product called Armor All wash gel and wax.I am not fond of Armor All anything but decided to try it.
    Cost was $5.72 for both,it took me 25 minutes to wash and wax my Free and it turned out great!Here's how I did it:
    Use a soft bristle nylon brush,buy a good one more fibers the better.
    Apply wash gel to brush not a bucket needed.Wet car then gently brush area thoroughly.
    Do the wheels last so no brake dust gets on paint.(rinse brush well)
    Use micro-fiber towels $5 at wally for four I think.
    While vehicle is still wet apply wax gel to wet cloth and wipe dry.
    You will be amazed as I was how fast it worked and what a shine.No water spots, no smearing on glass.Black plastic areas cleanup real nice with no whitening.
    All this in 25 minutes for a $1,The wash gel rinsed well and the wax may not last till trade in time but it's on the vehicle,you can feel it.
    I wash from bottom up and rinse while doing so,do it in the shade or wait till hot sun is off the paint.

    lizzzard
    :shades:
  • k952k952 Member Posts: 6
    I am wondering if the issue you experience is similar to what we have experienced - see #3005. We have observed a peculiar sensation at around 2000RPM. I can't find anything in searching around and thus far the dealer has no ideas either.
  • paulsanpaulsan Member Posts: 8
    I thought I was going crazy, because occasionally I would hear a faint "whistling" noise in the car. It typically lasted only a few seconds, and I wouldn't even hear it every day. It definitely didn't sound like outside wind noise. Almost like the first part of the door-chime, but much fainter, and it didn't change pitch.
    Today, finally, it started doing it enough that I was finally able to notice that when it started, if I turned of the A/C, it would immediately stop. Also, the noise seemed to be louder if the A/C blower was blowing higher.


    I remember two instances where I heard whistling noise in the past. One car actually had leaves sucked into the ventilation. It would whistle, then abruptly stop.

    Another occassion and more likely for you occurred in our 98Windstar. If the ceiling vents were manually closed and the air is blowing through, it can get louder/softer as you change the fan speed. And if you are alone in the car, it would be hard to determine the source. The Freestyle has similar vents.
  • mas23mas23 Member Posts: 38
    "We went with the "pebble" interior over the black/charcoal one"

    We also went with the pebble interior, but not for the reason you mentioned (although it is a good point). We got the dark blue exterior which creates a nice contrast to the pebble interior.

    "Rear sensor system is also very worthwhile."

    Rear sensor has been fantastic. Being not used to driving a bigger vehicle it comes in handy when I am reversing. Also a great help when parallel parking.
  • rachel_35rachel_35 Member Posts: 6
    We put just over 1,000 miles on our new Freestyle LTD AWD last week driving from Chicago to Michigan. I am very pleased with the Freestyle. Very comfortable and easy to drive; lots of room in the cargo area. My only complaints: I thought the highway noise was a little loud.

    Also, we chose captain's chairs for the second row without the console so we could use both carseats and still get into the third row without removing them. It is definitely possible, but it is a bit of a tight squeeze getting back there. I guess it's the tradeoff for not driving a minivan.

    I did not see a single Freestyle on the drive, which surprised me because Ford is big in Michigan. I did see two Ford Five Hundreds, though.

    Rachel
  • barnstormer64barnstormer64 Member Posts: 1,106
    "Another occassion and more likely for you occurred in our 98Windstar. If the ceiling vents were manually closed and the air is blowing through, it can get louder/softer as you change the fan speed."

    Hmmm, I'll check that. I do think that I have the ceiling vents closed. Thanks.
  • tim156tim156 Member Posts: 308
    After I posted my issue I read your posting. It also seems to occur when turning. I also read another posting regarding that too. My dealer sent me a coupon for my first oil change free, I'm going to bring it to their attention then. Other than that very minor issue I love the car. I put a second coat of wax on it today.
  • northlakesnorthlakes Member Posts: 368
    Tim, here is the reference I think you were looking for.
    **********************************
    March 7, 2005
    Dearborn, Michigan. Ford Motor Company told dealers that 2005 Ford Freestyle vehicles with the 3.0L 4-valve engine and the continuously variable transmission (CVT) may exhibit intermittent drivability concerns on deceleration and/or during turning maneuvers.

    To solve this drivability concern, Ford will reprogram the powertrain control module (PCM).

    Owners who experience intermittent drivability concerns with their Freestyle should consult their Ford or Lincoln-Mercury to have the above mentioned service performed.
  • damonhynesdamonhynes Member Posts: 6
    The engine block heater: What is the geographic range in which it comes standard/mandatory in the US?

    What kind of heater is it--plug-in 120v or trickle off the battery?

    How far, in y'all's experience, will a dealer search to find the specs you're looking for? I live in Omaha, and there are scads of the specs I'm looking for--in Dallas/Fort Worth...

    (For the record, I'm looking at FWD SEL Norsea/Shale/Front Comfort/Aux Climate/3-seat bench middle/50-50 3rd seat/Reverse Sensing; with absoutely no AWD, DVD or Moonroof)

    Thanx in advance!
  • northlakesnorthlakes Member Posts: 368
    Here is what I got from a Freestyle ordering guide last summer.
    *************************************
    ENGINE BLOCK HEATER
    Standard and only available in states of AK, MN,
    ND, SD, MT, WI and WY. Other states available
    via FCSD.
    *************************************
    I believe "FCSD" means fleet sales only, but the Ford guys would know better. It has an 120 volt plug with a hinged cap on the driver's side of the lower grill - waiting for your extension cord. :shades:
  • steverstever Guest Posts: 52,454
    Both my cars have block heaters but I haven't used them since I moved from Anchorage 5 years ago. Up there, I would plug them in for an hour if the temps got around 10°F (the city encourages them to be turned on at 20°F to help with emissions).

    They weren't garaged up there or I wouldn't have bothered, and I don't use them here in Boise. They are easy to find up North for ~$35 and up, plus installation.

    Steve, Host
  • blitzingblitzing Member Posts: 4
    I searched this forum for visibility issues and was surprised to find few posted complaints. It seems the professional reviewers are more conscious of this than actual owners. What is it with the huge pillars behind the second row? Are these part of the Volvo-inspired energy-channeling system? I assume that would also explain the tall and thick door frames? I hope these safety "enhancements" don't bring about their own need ... through a high accident rate!

    My wife and kids love the vehicle. Hopefully my skepticism will be proven unfounded as we have purchased not one, but two Freestyle. Best designed third row and rear storage space in class.
  • ANT14ANT14 Member Posts: 2,687
    "B "and "C" Pillars are heavily reinforced to channel crash force around the passenger compartment onto the opposite side of the vehicle. In fact, don't be surprised if you see the driver's side being hit, to see some bucking in the passenger side. (this occurs when the force meets, and returns to it's original point of impact-hence, severe impacts).

    So yes, they are a bit thick, but they are there for a good reason and so far they have shown to do their job of protecting passengers in side collisions.

    Now the "A" Pillar (windshield) have a different role. They protect the passenger cabin from a frontal impact, channeling the force over the passenger compartment through the header structural beams. While they are connected to the firewall crossmember, which channels energy on side impacts behind the dashboard, onto the opposite side of the car. The firewall crossmember also prevents engine intrusion into the cabin, and will divert all possible accessories/engine/transmission onto the ground before it even intrudes into the footwell area.

    One crossmember you will see is below the front seats. That crossmember channels energy from the doors, downward onto the beam, and channels the force below the seats to meet up with the "B" pillar of the opposite side. This (as well as the "B" Pillar....allows it to score 5 Stars in government crash ratings

    Now "D" Pillars, is at the rear-most area of the vehicle. They too channel energy in rear impacts, as well as side impacts.
  • northlakesnorthlakes Member Posts: 368
    For me, if I look left and right from the driver's seat, I can see very well. The side mirrors are placed well also. The size is good. The rear view mirror covers the back window plus part of the rear quarter windows. The rear view mirror could have a longer stem and more adjustability. Since I don't have the DVD player, nor the moonroof, it doesn't cause a problem for me. It feels visually comfortable for a vehicle of its size. After renting Escapes, Blazers, and such, I think Ford did a better job on the Freestyle's sight lines.

    If you have purchased two Freebies, you have probably spent some good time test driving them. How did it feel after you adjusted the mirrors? Hopefully your twin Freebies meet your expectations. :shades:
  • oldgwtholdgwth Member Posts: 25
    ANT14
    Thanks for the information on the pillars and side impact design safety, very enlightening. I can see to the left or right rear OK when changing lanes and the outside mirrors are great but they sure stick out more than I am used to. When parking in a tight spot they are very close to the other vehicles. Still a minor thing and I really enjoy the Freestyle.
  • mrlizzzardmrlizzzard Member Posts: 31
    There has been an erosion in tne rear view mirror for yrs.fact is you can't have style,storage or comfort without a blind spot or two.My Freestyle has changed all that.The inside rear view is a little shakey but the outside mirrors are the right size and at the right location.

    Truckers and racers rely on outside mirrors,learn them they are your friend.
    lizzzard :shades:
  • barnstormer64barnstormer64 Member Posts: 1,106
    My impression is that MOST people don't have a CLUE as to how to properly use outside mirrors.

    They always seem to adjust them so they can see the side of the car, which makes no sense. In other words, they aim them too far towards the center of the vehicle, and not far enough out.

    In fact, most cars I've been in, you need to adjust the mirrors almost as far as they can go to the outside (if not further).

    It seems that any time I take my car in to a shop, the mirrors end up being adjusted back toward the inside . . leaving HUGE blind-spots.

    I adjust mine so that I can JUST see the outside of the rear of the vehicle, IF I lean my head towards the mirror from my normal position. This typically leaves me with a very small blind spot. A motorcycle or very short car can get it that blind spot, but he'd have a hard time staying completely in it.

    I do think that the mirrors on the Freestyle are better than the ones on my Taurus.
  • jjayjjay Member Posts: 28
    Hello all - I am in my third month of Freestyle ownership and couldn't be happier the vehicle! Although we had originally planned on purchasing the seven passenger model (with four kids, we thought it would be better), we ended up getting the six passenger model with second row captains chairs and no console. The kids in the third row thought it seemed much roomier and less confining with the second row captains chairs than with the second row bench. Added bonus is that the kids can access the third row easily by walking in between the two second row captains chairs.

    Now to my question - the Freestyle came with front mats and second row mats, but there is no mat for the space in the middle between the two second row seats or for any of the third row. I'd love to protect these areas because they get walked on so often. Has anyone found any mats for these areas?

    Thanks!
  • jjayjjay Member Posts: 28
    Has anyone purchased this? Was it easy / cheap to have it installed, and are you happy with it? Do they really make a big difference? Does it take away at all from the exterior look of the Freestyle? Thanks.
  • pnewbypnewby Member Posts: 277
    Anyone interested in interior trim kits? Wood, aluminum etc. can be found here-
    http://www.sherwooddash.com/newrelease.htm

    Just look for the Ford Freestyle listings and pics. 2 different kit styles in multiple finishes.
  • freestylegalfreestylegal Member Posts: 70
    RE: mirrors close to other cars.
    I know what you mean, but I do what I did with my Expedition--if I'm in a tight spot, I fold the mirror(s) in so they don't get whomped by other peope/cars, etc.
  • ANT14ANT14 Member Posts: 2,687
    Mirrors should be adjusted to see the next lane over, not to see your own vehicle (as pretty as it might be).

    I agree, numerous people do not know how to adjust their mirrors. There's no reason someone should have blindspots looking out the side mirrors. Personally, I can back up a vehicle, or parellel park, without rotating my head to see out the rear/quarter windows, because of properly adjusted mirrors.
  • mrlizzzardmrlizzzard Member Posts: 31
    I got one yesterday,dealer installed it.But anyone can install it,philips screwdriver is all you need.No tape ,no drilling,5 minute job.Do it like this:
    Center the def. on roof,open moonroof,push the removable deflector down and block it off with something to keep it down as if roof was closed.
    Place tab under edge of opening,thread screw from def. to tab,secure it but not super tight. Simple (my screws were too long and hit on the glass when closing the roof)cut them off or get shorter ones by 1/4 inch.
    DID YOU KNOW THAT FREESTYLE ACC. ARE GUARENTEED FOR 3YRS. OR 36000 M :shades: ILES?Just found this out today.
    I got the vent visors,moon def.,bug shield.Prices were no more than Wal-mart and they work super.The moon roof,quiets wind noise to nothing.
    lizzzard
  • rbkrbk Member Posts: 2
    Another suggestion/add-on for the Freestyle....a $2 concave mirror, about 2" in diameter, placed on the drivers sideview mirror, furthest out. Eliminates a blind spot "cone" extending on the drivers side. Easily available at most auto parts stores...bought ours at Pep Boys.
  • realhawkerrealhawker Member Posts: 30
    I remember watching some defensive driving video...they recommend having almost half of your car in the mirror, only because people did not "trust" what they saw if they didnt see their car in relation to what they saw in the mirror

    I think its crap, I have mine set like you and they always get moved around, they may nnot be changing them though, they are easy to tilt, just from hand cleaning with paper towels.
  • barnstormer64barnstormer64 Member Posts: 1,106
    "Mirrors should be adjusted to see the next lane over, not to see your own vehicle (as pretty as it might be)"

    Agreed.

    " There's no reason someone should have blindspots looking out the side mirrors."

    Well, you can't COMPLETELY eliminate them. At least not without one of those concave mirrors.

    Even with those, there can be blind spots. I about got run off the highway by a trucker once because I was in his blind spot too long. The one just barely ahead of the passenger door.
  • barnstormer64barnstormer64 Member Posts: 1,106
    "I remember watching some defensive driving video...they recommend having almost half of your car in the mirror, only because people did not "trust" what they saw if they didnt see their car in relation to what they saw in the mirror"

    I'd find them guilty of negligent homicide if that ever caused an accident. Sheesh!

    As I said, I can't see my car at all through the side mirrors unless I tilt my head slightly toward that side of the car. That is, if the mirror ALLOWS that. I've had a few that couldn't quite be adjusted out that far.
  • tidestertidester Member Posts: 10,059
    they recommend having almost half of your car in the mirror

    I think there's a good reason for that. You tend to focus on what's in the central portion of the image in the mirror. If the image just "glances" the rear corner of your car you are less likely to notice an object emerging from the blind spot than if the boundary of the blind spot were more centered in your mirror.

    Also, I think the definition of blind spot used here by some is rather restrictive. You simply cannot eliminate the blind spot with mirrors (basic geometry and optics) unless you're talking about noticing or not noticing LARGE object behind you. More generally you must consider small objects and little people especially while perfoming backing up maneuvers.

    tidester, host
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