that may be true--but you are still making all traffic move better--all those cars would be crammed into the standard lanes. I don't know how you guys can stand that kind of traffic
@noburgers: That's why I was initially confused about why the New Jersey traffic scandal was such a big deal. Apparently in the rest of the US a traffic jam counts as major news. In Los Angeles its called Tuesday.
Sounds like it's time to return the carpool lane to the purpose for which it was intended. If CA wants to provide incentives for EV and hybrid purchases, they should keep them monetary. The carpool lane is not merely an environmental concern as it is also about congestion.
@legacygt, That assumes that LA represents the situation in all of California, and thankfully it does not (in more ways than one). Here in the Bay Area the carpool lanes still move right along (usually) and my Tesla's carpool sticker is a tremendous boon.
Here in Atlanta they took away the entire HOV lane (2+ people, or motorcycles only) and turned it into a HOT lane (must have transponder, and pay to use it unless you have 3+ people, motorcycle, or EV). It costs $8 just to drive 15 miles on the I-85 now if you want to drive it by yourself. That's $320 month in tolls to commute if you drove it every M-F. My Leaf allows me to drive it free, so it's cheaper to pay for the car than the tolls. So I guess it's just one benefit of driving an EV, but I wonder how long before they take that away.
Toll lanes are definitely the wave of the future. In a way it makes sense because people who are willing to pay a bunch to bypass traffic can do so and it makes it a little better for the people in the regular lanes as well. Of course the toll lanes in the LA area aren't in the best of locations. The 110 toll lane always makes me laugh as it dump you right into a snarl of traffic in downtown. Make it go through downtown and you might be on to something! I'll stick with my bike and lane splitting for now.
I was the one that passed Ed while driving in the standard lanes. I left work about 4 minutes after he did. After that the "lead" swapped back and forth a few times over the next 30 miles at the 30 mph or so we were travelling. I was a few car lengths in front when he finally exited the HOV lane in preparation for his freeway exit. That said, the carpool lane is usually the winning way unless you are at the very peak of rush hour. But I absolutely love it when I beat or at least keep pace with the carpool lane, and it's happening more and more often.
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