Testing Electric Vehicles in the Real World

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edited September 2014 in General

imageTesting Electric Vehicles in the Real World

With electric vehicles, the EPA's estimated range is only part of the story. See how our real-world driving tests of electric cars can give you the whole picture.

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  • tomm250tomm250 Member Posts: 2
    Very good article Dan. I particularly love the comparison graphs. I'd love if you made those graphs available somewhere on Edmunds site. Then, keep adding the electric cars as you test them. It would be a very valuable resource for those interested in an EV. To see how the car performs side by side with the other EV's in range, electric consumption, performance, etc is really great. Please consider having a link to there statistics somewhere on your site, updating and and keeping that information available to electric vehicle enthusiasts and shoppers. I know of no other place to see this side by side comparisons.
  • james265james265 Member Posts: 1
    Seems it is quite outstanding in function Parameter.
  • tonywilliamstonywilliams Member Posts: 1
    Interesting study. Thanks for posting it.

    Here's a test we did of 13 Nissan LEAF's in Phoenix, to compare how much heat had degraded the battery there. The newest car completed 83 miles to "turtle" mode, and the worst only 59 miles (after 29,000 miles of driving in the baking heat):

    http://insideevs.com/all-the-results-from-the-largest-independent-test-of-nissan-leafs-with-lost-capacity-not-instrument-failure/
  • dsinned99dsinned99 Member Posts: 2
    WIth respect to electric range, the RAV4 EV is truly a standout! The real world test results showed that car's range is capable of being greater than 40% of its EPA rating. IMPRESSIVE! Also, as a 4000+ lbs SUV, it's zero to 60 time of under 8 seconds is another surprise, (and I believe in "sport" mode, Toyota rates it at under 7 seconds)!
  • neilblanchardneilblanchard Member Posts: 4
    You did a decent job, though you are still are stuck on some platitudes. It would be interesting to see the data on charging that you got - and it would be interesting to see how much it cost to drive each of these EV's per mile.

    You could drive all cars that you review on the same loop, and report on the cost, and the pollution (gm/distance), as well. And it would be really important to compare the EV ranges to what people actually drive each day; and how much money they would pay for an EV vs their current car.

    You do post the kWh/100km (for all the cars except the Tesla Model S, curiously), and since the test loop is ~30MPH average, all the cars do significantly better than their EPA rating.

    Neil
  • neilblanchardneilblanchard Member Posts: 4
    I applaud Edmunds for starting this project. I hope you publish even more data: you measured as precisely as you could, and if you published this it would be very helpful. We could see how close each car's range remaining gauges are, we can know how much it cost to charge each car and compare this to the other EV's and ICE's as well.

    I predict that it costs as much (or more) for regular maintenance at a dealer on an ICE car, than it does to drive an EV. Remember, there is almost no regular maintenance on an EV; rotating the tires is about it. The Leaf needs to have the oil in the reduction gear at 150K miles. That means that you save about $17,000/per 100K miles driving an EV compared to a typical 23MPG car. Even a Prius costs about $7,000 more to drive 100K miles than driving an EV like the Leaf. All of the money you pay for electricity stays in your local economy. Much of the money you pay for gas goes to a foreign country. We don't need a military to defend our electricity, either.

    I would be very interested to know what "gear" you drove the cars in - I'm assuming it was Drive? I would love to have the drive completed a second time in the Eco mode on each car that has one.

    The Tesla has a toggle for the level of regenerative braking, and it would be very interesting indeed to know more about how this affects the range. I think that most EV's have way too much regenerative braking dialed in on the accelerator pedal - and they do not allow easy and consistent free-wheel coasting. Only the Honda Fit EV has free-wheel coasting in the Eco mode when you lift your right foot; and then has all the regen on the brake pedal. Edmunds could help improve all EV's by demonstrating whether easy and consistent free wheel coasting, or lots of regen on the accelerator yield more range.

    Neil
  • bfouldsbfoulds Member Posts: 2
    Thank you for for doing a simple real world test. I would like to suggest some additions to your test.

    Can you list the time needed to recharge? "How long to gas and go?" Tesla is offering charging stations and I would like to know if the time they give are true.

    A highway course. Maybe I-5, I-405 and I-605. Meeting range targets at highways speed will be hard for EVs.

    Finally test the EV only capability of hybrid plug-ins. The Karma and Volt both have EV only modes that are rarely tested without add the gas engines.

    Thank you again for testing these cars.
  • bfouldsbfoulds Member Posts: 2
    Thank you for for doing a simple real world test. I would like to suggest some additions to your test.

    Can you list the time needed to recharge? "How long to gas and go?" Tesla is offering charging stations and I would like to know if the time they give are true.

    A highway course. Maybe I-5, I-405 and I-605. Meeting range targets at highways speed will be hard for EVs.

    Finally test the EV only capability of hybrid plug-ins. The Karma and Volt both have EV only modes that are rarely tested without add the gas engines.

    Thank you again for testing these cars.
  • h20gash20gas Member Posts: 1
    What is the total battery watts to distance ratio of the top 5 vehicles? In simple terms which one gets the better mileage ratio? IE; an equivalency of a 20 gal tank compared to a 12 gal tank. If you load in an equivalent power source which one really goes the furthest?
  • dat2dat2 Member Posts: 251
    How about testing the 2013 LEAF, the new Fiat 500e and the Chevy Spark EV? Thanks!
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