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Rhodesian Ridgebacks, Those are like one of the tallest dogs in the world next to the Great Dane & Deer Hound.
I have a Cane Corso which is a pretty big dog and a Rotweiller/pitbull mix. He is a baby and is a awesome dog.
The Cane Corso is named "Sly" after Sylvester Stallone cuz my name is Rocky, after him. ROTFLMAO
In other words, if I'm cold outside wearing shoes, pants and a long sleeve shirt, then chances are they will be too. Besides, they're jumpers so putting them in a bed without severely restricting their movement will mean that they may jump while the vehicle is in motion
Yeah dogs can get cold if they are short-haired. I think their owner just spoils them. :P Well I can't say much because both of my dogs are pretty spoiled also.
In the cab, they can be kept fairly content and aside from nose prints on the windows, they don't do much if any damage...
Well just make sure you put some padding down on the leather so their sharp nails don't puncture the soft supple leather.
Rocky
kcram - Pickups Host
thegraduate, that's cool. You make some good points
yes, but what about the real "truck" guys who want the biggest engine (6.2L for GM, 5.7L for Toyota) without all the whipped-cream options? What does GM offer to compete with a lesser-optioned Toyota?
Well with Toyota, you can have it now. With GM, you will have to wait until late summer/early fall to get those options. I'm sure if you test drove a Silvy/Sierra you'd like it. My suggestion is go drive both and see what you like and compare deals by shopping at various dealers.
Just by searching dealer inventory, I have found multiple Tundras in the color I would want, with cloth (which I'd want), and with the 5.7L engine, for under $30,000.
Is that with 4WD ? That certainly isn't a CrewMax is it but a double cab ?
I guess the way I look at it is you can pay sticker or like I've been hearing $2-3K over because of demand for the Tundra 5.7 V8, or you can get less powertrain but still plenty with a 6.0 V8 with 367 hp. or if you don't need that much the 5.3 will work and have the nicer interior, plus ride not to mention 5 yr. 100K warranty and pay significantly less dough for the GM truck.
It's as simple as that. It's a choice some will have to make. It all depends on what you want or need. The choice might be simpler this fall if people wait. Right now the Sierra Denali is GM's top real truck but yes it's whipped cream with options. :shades:
Rocky
Rocky
I'm not in the market for a vehicle right now, and if I were, I probably wouldn't be looking at the biggest engine offerings. I'm just amazed that, in the last two years, people have decided that 300 horsepower wasn't enough, and that sports-sedan acceleration and 10,000 pound hauling capacities (who buys a half-ton to actually do that?) Before I decided on getting my current car (yes, a CAR
The main reason I wanted a truck was for the interior room (I'm 6'4") but found a car that gave me enough room at a slightly lower price than the trucks. Plus, it gets an average of 30 MPG in my daily drive (it's an Accord). Obviously, I'm not in need of loads of power (I'm a college student) and DO need something to last me a long time cheaply. I stumbled on this discussion when reading about the new Tundra and have found all of this info pretty astonishing. 380+ horsepower... I remember when I thought the Silverado had things wrapped up when its 5.3L offered 285hp a few years ago.
My how quickly things change...
Well thankfully you are getting lots of choices from the big 3. I understand a few years ago why so many wanted to drive an accord. Next go around you will be able to cross shop cars like the 08' Malibu which BTW will have a hybrid option and a 6-speed auto. You can get a ecotec 4-cylinder in it with LTZ trim or can get a 3.6 "high feature" V6. The Saturn Aura, is a worthy accord alternative also and it will have a Greenline version with a hybrid. It seemed liked yesterday General Motors, Ford, Chrysler, didn't offer competitive high volume camcord alternatives and today all 3 have players in that segment are or have some on the way. Toyota's, real entry in the truck segment was a huge splash and they are looking to make a dent. Thankfully General Motors, had such a great trucks coming out it will make little impact on them. Ford and Dodge, now know where the bar is set and it's upt to them to raise it. General Motors, I gaurantee you has already started laying the groundwork for it's next full-size truck. They will have to remodel and refreshen more often with Toyota being in the market place. Nissan, isn't shying away either and has brought a gun to the gunfight. They refreshened their interior already because it was last generation already.
The bottom line is truck buyers are going to benefit with fresher designs coming more often. The choices might be hard for some but in my eyes it's easy. General Motors, IMHO is the king of this segment and has been for a long time. They know how to do trucks and are learning how to do cars. Like many have said their are so many choices and it's hard to decide what to buy now days. I feel blessed GM, is finally not just making great exteriors on cars but have made some benchmark interiors over the last year. The future indeed looks brighter than ever with results instead of promises.
Rocky
Black w/ Tan
The Sierra Denali is flat-out :shades:
Rocky
Rocky
I will still take a crew max any day, don't have to get nav to get the back up camera and has a lot more room as well, why pay more for the denali over a regular Silv?
That got to be the best one ever! Wait to Franklin hears this one now! Never heard of no TVs in no trucks before, that be that greatest idea ever now! What will that factory think up next now? I think we need one of them ones for sure now. Haulin tabacco and watchin TV! Good luck on this one now!
I guess the way I look at it is you can pay sticker or like I've been hearing $2-3K over because of demand for the Tundra 5.7 V8, or you can get less powertrain but still plenty with a 6.0 V8 with 367 hp. or if you don't need that much the 5.3 will work and have the nicer interior, plus ride not to mention 5 yr. 100K warranty and pay significantly less dough for the GM truck.
It's as simple as that. It's a choice some will have to make. It all depends on what you want or need. The choice might be simpler this fall if people wait. Right now the Sierra Denali is GM's top real truck but yes it's whipped cream with options.
How 'bout this. The Tundra 5.7 is the best $30k truck, and the GMC Denali is the best $40k truck?
How 'bout them apples?
DrFill :shades:
4th try would be in the diesel 3/4 ton truck market with the rumored 800ftlb torque diesel which might be out by mid 08 around summer
just dont kill yourself trying to race other people.
I can see it now...Guy goes back to the Toyota dealer.."Excuse me sir..I think something is wrong we my new Tundra, Them Chevy boys show me their tailights all the time" lol ahh the good'ol horsepower wars..I'll admit though, that Toyota does has a nice setup though. Now a TRD version will be interesting for sure.
4x4 tundra 5.7 5600+ pounds
4x4 6.0 silverado & sierra 5300+ pounds
Everywhere I've read they have said by the end of this month or the beginning of next month we will see the first ones become available.
Rocky
Rocky
I will still take a crew max any day, don't have to get nav to get the back up camera and has a lot more room as well, why pay more for the denali over a regular Silv?
How can you have a back up camera without a navigation system to display it on ? :confuse:
There are lots of "Gadget" & "Luxury" reasons to buy the Sierra Denali over the Silverado. You get a lot more features on the Denali that you can't find on any other truck but the Escalade EXT.
Rocky
Rocky
Last I new the Tundra Diesel was suppose to get 720ftlbs. of tq. I guess they have raised that bar already.
Rocky
Rocky
Rocky
Rocky
Thanks, for the update.
Rocky
I can't see the Denali doing 13's...If it does there is ABSOLUTELY no reason to even think of a Tundra. 13's is HAULING...lol
Maybe because most folks buying vehicles for drag racing aren't looking at 5000+ lb 4-dr 4x4 pickups. Instead, folks buying 5000+ lb 4-dr 4x4 pickups may want that extra power and torque for more adult reasons like safely accelerating to highway speeds while towing. Under which conditions you'll not be worried about 'grenading the transfer case'....
These are respectively, the 6.0L Sierra and the 5.7L Tundra. The 6.2L Denali is more...
Your Region May Vary.
It's gonna be close with the GMC having more theoretical power and the new 6 speed which GM needs desperately.
But now if GM also slips in the mysterious 4 second delay like in the Silverado then there's no way it comes within a truck length of the 5.7L Tundra.
What is that ? Is that starting the truck shifting it into gear ?????
Rocky
Rocky
It essentially turns the 6.0 into a 5.3L at WOT at startup.
Hmmmm.
I guess then you spiritually identify with folks taking modded Honda Civic's to the track; it's the same rationale. They also find great fascination with taking FWD econoboxes and running down sportscars....
My point was that Toyota didn't build the truck to be a drag-race vehicle. Yes, I'm sure that some folks WILL want to race it.
It essentially turns the 6.0 into a 5.3L at WOT at startup.
This makes no sense to me, what is a "4 sec closed loop"? and how does it reduce available HP? I would like further explanation please.
As it turns out, the explanation boils down to an engine calibration strategy. GM calibrated the 367-hp 6.0-liter V8 to remain in stoichiometric "closed-loop" fuel delivery mode for 4 seconds after the throttle is floored. This fueling strategy helps keep emissions in check (and saves fuel) at the expense of reduced power — about 40 hp less at the peak. Once the driver lifts his right foot from the wide-open throttle position, the 4-second clock resets.
This leads me to more questions: What can be done about this? Can it be reprogrammed? And will it void any warranties?
Rocky
I hope others send hate mail to GM, over it. The 6.2 better not do this otherwise I'll be :mad:
Rocky
Opinions welcome...facts are preferred.
Jeff