B6 S4 like it or hate it
Audi could have done some great things with this car instead they have done some good things. 344 Non aspirated horses, dual exhaust, 6 speeds that's good. Tweaks to 370, SMG, new better than ever interior would have been great. Will I buy when my lease is up in a year? That will remain to be seen. How many will buy, how many will keep their B5 S4's and mod them for the same or more power. Pricing will factor in, please Audi don't charge more than 45K base. By the way the Recaro seats I hope make it to America and are not only Euro spec, don't tease us. Also does anyone think Audi maybe holding back on the potential of ordering a 370HP version? Very little was said on options..If your listening Audi you will get my $$/
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I guess the really hot A4 will be the next RS4.
I have some sites with good infos on the S4 V8, I guess some of you already have them but here's a site with some "2003" S4 specifications.
I find 5.6 seconds for 0-60mph a bit slow, what do you guys think? A M3 pumping 333HP could do between something in the high 4 or low 5...
My main concern now is the price tag that will come with the S4.
Is this vehicle being sold in Europe and if so what's the price tag there?
just my thoughts.
not bad. a little more than i would have hoped, for now i'm sticking with my 2001, but a lot of car for the money.
If you look at many other sports car companies, what is the trend? Lotus got rid of their 4-cyl and went to an 8-cyl for example. Nissan doesn't offer a 300Z, but a 350Z. Viper larger engine. Why? because we have an appetite for more power, and the least expensive and most durable way to do that is to add cubic inches and/or cylinders.
That is not to say that a good small engine can't outperform a large poorly-designed large engine. It means that once an engine is well developed, where do you go from there for more power? Maybe a turbocharger or supercharger? If you already have that in the design then what? Sure you can tune an engine like a race-engine, but those engines need a rebuild every few races.
I think Audi make a nice choice going with a larger engine in the S-4, especially considering the vehicle's size and weight. If the S-4 was under 3,000 Lb say, maybe the 60+ Lb of the 8-cyl would make a difference. The 8-cyl. has a nice base of power which theoretically, tuners can add a lot to.
I will be interested in looking at an S-4, but given the current economic climate Audi better come in no higher than $45K. There's going to be a Subaru Legacy STi coming out the year after the Impreza STi, that would be worth looking at, if there's a $10K+ price difference.
And on the 'future cars' page, a picture of a lovely A4 coupe ..... anyone know if it'll be a 1.8 or headed for the S4?
Performance wise, S4 will be hard pressed by cars like the Evo and STi. Comparisons to the M3 and C32 are inevitable. The C32 and Audi seem to share similar philosophy - Build a beautiful, luxurious car that goes really fast. The M3 has a narrower focus.
As a fan of Audis, I would like to see Audi offer a real sports car. Like a street going version of their ALMS.
If you like people to notice you've spent 15K more in a car I think you might be better off buying a M3 (which in my opinion has been overdone, I like the regular 3-series better). Audi is known for keeping it quiet... 'bauhaus' style.
Drive safe. Brian