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Actually, there isn't much if any difference between timing advance with 87 vs. 91 octane. I've datalogged both using OBDII software. My seat of the pants and the data suggests (although there aren't enough datapoints to tell for sure), that octane does matter for transitional events like during shifts and when you first press the accelerator. There isn't any difference between the two during WOT acceleration and at steady speed cruise, which explains why there doesn't seem to be a difference in observed mileage between the two either.
And cheer up-- at least you can replace these with conventional tires. Not so with the proprietary PAX system that non-AWD Odyssey Touring buyers get burdened with.
Based on what I've read in these forums, Toyota should probably get AWD buyers to sign a disclaimer acknowledging that 1) The van comes with no spare; 2) run-flat tires are expensive to replace; and 3) not every Gomer Pyle tire shop in every town in America stocks them.
My message was (an admittedly lame attempt at) a joke. .0 gallons of gas probably won't give you much peace of mind on long trips. Short ones, maybe...
J6P
Like I said in my previous post, 99% of the time there is no difference, but for that 1% of the time you are doing no good. Sort of like a diet of junk food. Eventually it will catch up to you.
I've seen what preignition can do to an engine and it's not pretty.
Also, even if you religiously use "premium", you're using 87 octane at times because selling 87 octane as "premium" is far from unheard of by unscrupulous gas station owners.
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Steve, Host
"This van had one curious, inexplicable anomaly: After 40,000 miles, its ability to accelerate has faded. 0-to-60 mph went from 7.4 seconds when new - to 8.1 seconds, 0-to-100 mph from 22.9 to 24.9; and the quarter-mile run was off by 0.5 seconds..."
Overall they like the van, despite a few shortcomings, like power sliding doors which runs extremely slow, and some other grips.
Can't find that article online, but is in the December issue "Long-Term test - Toyota Sienna XLE". (pg. 154)
Thanks.
Mark
#40-I RADIATOR FAILURE, radiator needs to be repplaced ASAP.
#40-H POWER STEERING HOSE LEAK, hose needs to be replaced
According to my service rep both of these should be performed ASAP
Aren't their spots on the floor to move the end seat to the middle? They sure wouldn't advertise this because then no one would buy a reg. 8 passenger. Any ideas?
http://www.courier-journal.com/business/news2004/09/22/D1-minivan- s22-7373.html
No. The floor configuration on the 7 and 8 seat versions is different. You can't just buy the seat and "plug it in." An 8-seater XLE Limited is supposed to come out in the 05 model year (per numerous Toyota documents posted on the "big" Sienna website). I'm not sure if an 8 seater XLE is in the works or not.
Steve, Host
Combined Chrysler T&C plus Dodge Caravan calendar ytd is 310,563 vs 305,665 for the same time period in 2003, showing that the stow and go feature has positively added some to their sales figures, or at least stemmed their downward trend.
Odyssey is down a few thousand, due to increased competition and of course their design was getting stale until the introduction of their 2005 redesign this fall, which hasn't been on the market long enough to positively impact their sales.
"Toyota initially estimated the Princeton plant, which now builds the Tundra, Sequioa and Sienna, would employ 1,300 jobs and build 100,000 vehicles per year. The plant now directly employs 4,629 workers and produces 300,000 vehicles annually"
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Steve, Host
My two most recent daily drivers (which I purchased new) both called for premium and I drove each 150K+ miles on 87 with no problems. The first was a 89 Taurus SHO. The second a 97 Avalon XLS that was just rear-ended by two inattentive drivers on the interstate and totalled. The only reason I'm in the market for new transportation.
In my experience, buying premium is a waste of money.
Even a new Porsche 996 can use regular and not knock or ping according to Porsche.
If you're hearing audible pinging with 87, I'd bring it into the dealer. You shouldn't
hear that with a properly functioning knock sensor, and I never hear any pinging with 87 octane.
The following link will take you to the trailer.
http://movies.yahoo.com/movies/feature/thepacifier.html
The parking maneuver at the end of the trailer probably voids the warranty.
Enjoy
We have called the dealer a second time because we noticed that the smell seemed to be concentrated around the pwr sliding door. They said that the door was probably lubricated as part or routine maintenance, but the lube they use doesn't normally smell. My husband has cleaned the door and door hinge and all the mats, but I still smell it. Does anyone have any idea what may have happened to my van, and what I can do about it? I am not interested in something to mask the smell because my concern is that this is unhealthly and masking the smell will not solve that.
I checked for XLE FWD also to see if that made a difference, but there was still only the 1 recall listed. Why aren't these additional recalls posted, and will I receive a letter from Toyota if a recall pertains to my car? Should I call my servicing dealer? They are 75 miles away so I can't just pop in and ask. Thanks.
Steve, Host
Another de-contenting gripe: Vanity mirror(s) are much smaller and cheap-feeling than '03 model, with not-so-bright lights.
Otherwise, the van is superior to my '03 Sienna in every way. Despite these nit-piks, my '04 is a lot more van for the money than my '03 with $5K rebate.
Mark
If so, the '04 models ARE illuminated for sure. Don't know about the '05 models.
Heywood, am I wrong?