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Happy New Year to everyone here. I'm sure I'll "meet" you as time goes on.
MagMax
MagMax
Another little feature that I think is amazing is the automatic windshield wiper system. It rains here all winter and just being able to forget about wiper speed is quite something. If another car splashes the windshield there's no groping for the wiper controls because by the time you think about it the sensor has speeded up the wipers to get rid of the water. This is something I've never had on a car before. I love it and think that all cars should have this feature as standard equipment.
I'll let you know what I think of the CD changer and the sound of the CD player after I've put a few into the car.
MagMax
He said it was fixed and ready to go. This was only an hour and 15 minutes after the dealership opened.
I asked if there was any damage to the transmission with the loss of fluid and he said he didn't think so, as the transmission shuts down when the fluid is lost. He also said it's an adaptive transmission so for the next few days it may seem like it's shifting different, as it's adjusting to the way I drive.
I would really like to hear every ones thoughts on this as I'm a mechanical idiot. Thanks!
I too bought an Amanti the 21st of Nov. It is a 2004 Silver with light beige upholstery. My wife says she feels like a Queen in it. I live in Alberta and have had reason to try the heated seats, outside mirror defrost and wiper blade defrost.
On Boxing Day we drove home from a lovely dinner in -28C clear conditions. The streets in this subdivision were treacherous with lots of ice and ruts. The Amanti drove like it was summer with no sliding, spinning of tires and no fish-tailing. Within two minutes our backsides were positively toastey and we had to turn the seat heaters down to 1. I put in a new CD and we enjoyed our drive home.
My car has a single CD changer but we find it just fine. We keep our CDs in a zipper case in the wonderful pocket in my door. If we wish to change music, my wife does it. The sound is superb.
I spent about six months researching possible cars to buy. As an avid reader of Car Guide, Road and Track and several others and naturally searching the Internet, I narrowed my choices down to the Altima, Honda V6 EL and the Amanti. We tried them all and my wife fell in love with the Amanti. It has a more comfortable living space. I too have been asked by all sorts of people what kind of car it is. This is fun!
Out of interest, our last car was a 1983 Olds Cutlass Supreme Brougham which we bought new and my grandson has now inherited. It was a very faithful car. But I've now really moved up in the world.
I'll watch this site for further comments and tips. I also passed this URL on to my sales lady. It should be of help to her in her sakes.
Happy New Year to you all.
Penticton, Okanagan, BC - Wine, Orchards and a Vacation Paradise
http://www.penticton.ca/
I'm delighted to hear that the car does so well in sub-zero weather. One always wonders whether the soft suspension will hold up in deep cold and it's obvious from what you describe that it does.
I made an appointment with the dealer to have my engine sensors checked out so that this darned light can be extinguished once and for all. I'll let the forum know how that works out.
All the best to everyone here for a happy and healthy 2005.
MagMax
It sounds as if you stopped the vehicle before any damage was done to the transmission. There's a lot of oil in there and modern oils don't break down as the old ones used to. I'm pretty sure that you'll be fine. And since the dealer said it was due to a loose connection, if it turns out that the transmission was damaged, you'll have a new one under warranty anyway. It's comforting to hear that you were treated like a valuable customer. As for the adaptive transmission, those are pretty well the norm on Japanese cars as well. The shifting patterns up and down will be determined by the way you drive and will change accordingly so if you suddenly get very aggressive, the transmission will "learn" to hold lower gears longer for more acceleration and so on.
MagMax
The Great White North also includes a small strip of green on the west coast and on the big island off the west coast. Vancouver's the third largest city in Canada and it's located just a few miles north of the border and the provincial capital is Victoria, which is located on that island I just mentioned. I live in Vancouver and we've not had a freezing night yet this winter. If you know about Seattle's weather, you'll know ours too. We're generally a little more protected from the winds than Seattle but otherwise the two are similarly wet for much of the winter. But when it does snow here, everything shuts down, believe me.
Because of the rain I get to use the automatic wipers a lot on my Amanti. It's amazing how quickly one gets used to having them to all the adjusting. It would be very hard to give up the little toys like that.
I also discovered something else that I really appreciated. On all of my previous cars, I could lock the doors by remote if I had the trunk open and then just close the trunk and expect it to be locked. On the Amanti, I did that the other day and when I closed the trunk, the lights flashed on once to tell me that all the locks had activated. That's a great idea because then you know for sure that everything's locked up. Why didn't the other manufacturers think of that?
MagMax
Is there a Kia dealer in Penticton?
MagMax
As for Consumer Reports and bias, I think it's fair to say that all magazines have a bias. Consumer Reports comes out and tells you theirs right up front. They treat cars like toasters: they have a function and they should carry out that function reliably and consistently. Once that's understood, their reports can be quite useful and their reliability reports can be especially helpful. Of course, the reliability reports are compiled from subscribers' replies and it's highly unlikely that the magazine's subscribers list represents a true reflection of the average North American. I suspect that people who subscribe to Consumer Reports are generally more aware of consumer issues and are probably more generall informed than the average citizen so again, right away there's a certain in-built bias in their compilations. Nevertheless, there's nobody else in the North American press who has quite the same honesty and frankness in their evaluations of products as Consumer Reports. I wouldn't know what to do without them to buy appliances, electronics, and so on because ít's very difficult to find accurate and objective information for the layman on those kinds of products.
Having said that, I must also agree that I didn't much like their Amanti evaluation. It almost seemed as if the things I liked were the very things they disliked about the car. But their report didn't stop me from buying my Amanti and so far I still like it very much. I'm even slowly finding a seating position that doesn't rack me with pain.
MagMax
MagMax
Good to hear from the Canadian Left-Coasters! I hail from the Skagit Valley north of Seattle but am now in school in mid-Missouri. That Okanogan area is gorgeous, as is a good chunk of the entire Pacific Northwest. BTW-Canada is the source of two of my favorite rock bands of all time. The Guess Who and The Tragically Hip. Awesome music from true professionals that endures the test of time.
2021 Kia Soul LX 6-speed stick
Actually, I'm NOT from Canada. I just responded to Lakecrest who was wondering if all of Canada was cold. I'm familiar with the climate in BC and have a good friend from Pentictin. I live Arizona. Nice and warm here, usually.
I still think the Amanti is one of those hidden treasures. I have to believe that anyone who's looking at a V6 Camry or Accord or an Altima and who also drives an Amanti will see the features and the price and will ask why pay so much for less car?
MagMax
"Less than 18 months since its introduction in the U.S., the Kia Amanti was recognized earlier this week for its unique ability to delight customers when the San Diego based research firm Strategic Vision, Inc. (SVI) named the premium sedan the “Most Delightful Vehicle” in the mid-size car category. Formerly known as the “Total Delight” study, the newly named “Customer Delight Index Study™” provides a comprehensive look at the product attributes and benefits that explicitly create delightful responses from the primary drivers of vehicles."
"It is an honor to receive this award from Strategic Vision because it is a direct reflection of the positive experience Amanti owners are having with their new vehicle,” said Peter M. Butterfield, president and CEO, Kia Motors America (KMA). “The Amanti offers consumers high levels of value, quality and safety, and we are pleased that it continues to receive strong recognition from consumers."
"The results of Strategic Vision’s 2004 Customer Delight Index were calculated from the responses of 74,910 new vehicle 2004-model owners who made their purchases between October 2003 and March of 2004 and had owned their vehicles for at least 90 days before they were surveyed."
"A Delight rating requires a more positive, complete response than simply ‘Excellent’ or ‘Completely Satisfied,’” states Dr. Darrel Edwards, Founder of Strategic Vision, Inc. “When you Delight your customer, you create stronger bonds of emotional commitment to the product, the brand and the manufacturer."
Sounds kind of like the comments I've read from Amanti owners here on Edmunds. Sure, there's been a few hitches in your Amanti's glitches here and there but there always are with new cars. Kia is booking down the road in a very positive manner right now.
Here's the link from my source for this:
http://www.kia.com/010705.php
2021 Kia Soul LX 6-speed stick
Even though it sounds like I'm complaining, I'd be hard pressed to find a nicer car! I still love it!
Top Gear
The first time the tank was full, so I thought maybe it was over flow. The next time I stopped when I noticed it and it was only 3/4 full.
I'll be taking it in in the next couple of days but would be interested in hearing ideas of what it might be.
Anyway, they did not have the parts on hand so they said they would have them over nighted, and hopefully have it ready by tomorrow night. I told them I needed the car and would prefer to wait a few days to have it done.
15 minutes later, when I went to pick it up, they said there was a small chance it could become a safety issue and they would feel better if I didn't drive it.
They said they would pay for a rental and told the rental company over the phone that I was driving their top of the line car and not to bring me a Geo Metro or Ford Focus. They brought an 04 Camry LE 5 minutes later.
I was impressed with the way they took care of me. The Camry was more than exceptable for a rental and it was a good chance to drive whats supposed to be comparable vehicle. The LE is no where close to being comparable to the Amanti. I don't know about the XLE, but I would not want to own the LE. I am happy to have it as a rental at KIA's expense.
This is my 3rd problem with my Amanti;
1. After market oil filter did not fit correctly and leaked.
2. Transmission cooling line clamp came off causing a loss of transmission fluid, the transmission quitting and requiring a tow. (Unknown if transmission was damaged. Dealer is monitoring it.)
I'm hoping this is the last problem for a while. I'm also getting concerned about going on any long cross country type trips. I know there is a trip interruption policy, but who can afford to go through that kind of vacation interruption when you have reservations and a limited time to get there and get back.
MagMax
http://www.thecarconnection.com/index.asp?n=156,173&sid=173&a- mp;a- mp;article=7973
Comes complete with a searchlight for "lighting up the waves for night surfing."
2021 Kia Soul LX 6-speed stick
Yep, that's it....wow! The interior they described is just what I saw. The thing looks like it could just be my next car! I hope they'll actually put it into production. Thanks again...!
2021 Kia Soul LX 6-speed stick
This site should bring you to some nice pics of the concept KIA.
-Pete in Sarasota
I think KIA is definitely moving up, as evidenced by the luxurious Amanti. I love my car!
By the way, my next-door neighbors just drove home a new Silver Amanti today! I gave them this website so they can join in the discussion.
Having said that, according to your list of 3 problems, starting with number 1, an aftermarket part not fitting properly is (in my opinion) not the fault of the Amanti, but rather the fault of the aftermarket part maker. That is probably the reason why auto manufacturers always prefer for auto owners to use their (usually) better quality parts.
2, The transmission clamp is a bad thing to happen of course. What makes it worse is that such a relatively small part failure can do such major damage. Good luck in that no damage occurred to your tranny.
3, The gas leak problem is not good either. Hopefully it is repaired now and you will not have any further major problems.
Let me finish my comment by saying that I'm certain that somewhere, some place, there are new Toyotas, Nissans, etc. that have had to come in to the dealership for adjustments just like your Amanti did.
Again, we are sorry to hear about your difficulties, but I think all and all, these things happen.
Hang in there and keep us posted!
Thanks -P
I'm still here, reading almost every day.
Nothing much to contribute lately. I've had the Amanti for not quite 8 months, and am running it at about a 10,000 mile per year rate. Right now it's got just over 6000 miles on it.
The car is absolutely filthy right now, begging for a good wash and vacuuming. But everything is running great. I'm always in the 18.0-19.5 MPG range. The engine runs great, transmission seems good, ride is as soft as ever, and all the whiz-bang extras work just fine. It's been in for two oil changes, and next time I'll have the tires rotated as well.
I had an odd glitch one day, but it never repeated, so I didn't take it to the dealer. I was driving along and it started running VERY rough. Bad enough that I turned into the next parking lot I found. I shut off the engine, and restarted it, and it was smooth as silk, and has been ever since - this happened a couple of months ago. It was very odd - like the engine controller had lost track of the engine speed/position sensors or something. Seems fine now, though.
I've always been very easy on cars, and this one is no exception. I let them get awfully dirty sometimes before cleaning them up, but that's about it.
And that's why I haven't posted - I didn't have anything exciting to say except "8 months and 6,000 miles later, everything's going great!"
Just so readers don't have to look back 200 posts: 2004 Kia Amanti, carbon gray, base model, no options.
Thanks for noticing my absence - that's pretty cool!
With the thousands of components in today's cars, many of which are built by outside suppliers, I'm amazed at how little really ever goes wrong. I think it's more important to have a dealership that will help to fix the problem promptly and in your case that seems to have been done. I hope you have no more problems and look forward to the next update.
MagMax
1. Tires: the standard Hankook tires have been criticized in the press but I've found them to be perfectly fine so far. Have any of you experienced tire squeal in turns? I haven't, but then it's usually wet where I live so maybe I'm not driving fast enough. I've also driven them in snow recently (for about 2 weeks) and found no problems at all. Anyone else?
2. One Canadian report commented that the air conditioner couldn't keep the mist off the inside windows. I've seen no problems with mine, not even in the torrential rains that we're having right now. How about anyone else? I haven't had a chance to try out the A/C in hot weather but I imagine that some of you live in the sunbelt. How's the Amanti in the heat? I figure that the more upright rear window should help keep the direct sun off the back seat passengers' necks, unlike most other cars with their slanted back windows.
3. Speaking of the A/C, I'm still trying to interpret the manual when it comes to the automatic A/C system. On my previous cars, I could run the system in automatic form, with or without the A/C running but I don't think I've found out how to do that on the Amanti. I thought at first if I pushed the Automatic button, and then pushed it gain to turn its light off, I'd have what I was looking for but I can still hear the compressor cut in and out so that's not doing what I want. Then I tried just turning off the A/C button by pushing it a second time, and that doesn't seem to work either. I guess I'll just leave things in Auto position and have the system do its thing without any more interference from me. But I'd like to hear from owners who have more experience and who've figured it out.
MagMax
As far as the tires go, I think they are very good tires. I read somewhere when I bought my car, that these were designed for, and tuned for the Amanti to achieve it's quieter ride.
I once recall hearing my tires squeal, but I thought it was more that particular road and not the tires in general as it's very rare.
Living in Florida on the gulf coast, we get our share of humidity and rain. I have never had (or even heard of) a problem with mist on the inside of the windows. The A/C works terrifficly and poses no problems of any kind. In fact I love the dual zone, so my mother -who is always colder than me, can have a warmer side. Also, having the Solar Glass keeps the interior cooler by blocking a considerable amount of solar heat.
Finally my thought on the Automatic A/C question... I guess that in order for the 'auto' a/c to achieve its range of comfort, it needs the compressor. By disabling it, it can't control the environment, so it no longer is fully 'automatic'.
(This is just my opinion of how this works and I could be wrong on that).
Well that's my 2 cents! Enjoy your Amanti!
-Pete
The A/C is excellent, nice and cool in the Mojave desert in July.
For new owners, if you haven't checked old posts here, check your tire pressure. Several of us old owners had cars delivered with high tire pressure. (50psi or so)My spare came with 50 psi.
No problems with mist, a little A/C dehumidifies the inside very quickly, even in cool weather.
It's a great car and a pleasure to drive.
kmq