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1) It was because the person at the dealership where it was purchased put the environmental protection package (pd. extra for then to put the E.P.P. on it) on with a dirty mitt and scratched it
2) That dealership said it was a possible defect in the paint
3) Dealership #3 said it was because I washed it with a "clean, new " sponge and scratched instead of a sheepskin mitt (which is ridiculous!)
I'm getting a BIG run around, but have contacted Ford Direct Cust. service just today. Thanks for listening...Just wondering if your paint will look like that in just 3 months like mine. Hope not!!! Enjoy your ride when it comes in. Hope to hear from you.
mustangsally3
You didn't take it through one of those automatic car washes with the nylon brushes, did you?
We have about 3. Compared to almost 30 05 Focues.
Now put that in perspective, Ford is making more Mustangs this year than at anytime in recent history. They are basically churning out cars as fast as possible (except perhaps for GTs) and they still don't pile up on dealer lots.
Mustang is selling at a better pace than 13! Different Car Brands!
and they still don't pile up at lots!
Its AMAZING. and the Press could really care less.
Mark
Anybody else had such an aggravating experience trying to buy this car?? In my opinion Ford is really dropping the ball on this one and we customers are paying the price. As much as we want this car, we are about to give up.
Ford underestimated the demand for the mustang, and they cannot simply turn a switch and crank them out faster - if they could, believe me, they would.
I would guess that your order in May was with a dealer that had already gotten his allowance (the salesman may not have known) and they simply could not get another.
Look around the country for an in stock, or order an 06 from the dealer you feel most comfortable with. Ford will almost certainly produce enough in the 06 model year, and by 07, the rebates and discounts will start. Frankly, the 06 models will probably be more reliable anyway. Patience is a virtue, but I know, the stang is a "gotta-have-it-now-cool" car. If I were going to buy a car now, I would be all over it.
1) If you see one ad from a dealer that says "time is running out" or "this is your last chance" don't ever go there
2) If you see a print or media ad that claims "thousands off of current model year, they're lying.
3) NOBODY EVER sells anything below cost
4) If you go to a dealership to look and they salesman wants your car keys for a "quick evaluation " Run, don't walk away
Look for a dealer in your area that DOESN"T scream out of every ad. they are out there. Good luck!
I'm sorry to hear you've been getting the runaround, but I've had a buying experience 180 degrees out from yours. I like you, started in April, trying to purchase a Mustang GT. I talked with my bank's buying service, spent hours researching on the internet, and read every article in print I could find. I called every dealer in my city (Jacksonville, FL) and got quoted MSRP with an 8-12 week wait for an ordered GT. I chose the one who seemed to be the most honest. The salesperson knew less than me, but he introduced me to the sales manager who was where the proverbial "rubber met the road." He was a serious Mustang fan and solid guy. I put a 500$ deposit down, got a quote for $200 below MSRP, and was told I "should" have a car in 2-3 months. Although I annoyed them biweekly, they answered all of my questions and kept me accurately informed of the car's progress. I verified their info with the VOPC phone line, but it was always right on. Lo and behold, after 7 weeks of waiting, the Stang showed up. Not only did I get it earlier than the sales manager's estimate, but they didn't charge me for the increase in price (~$350.00).
The reason I mention all this is because I think the culprits in your situation are the unsavory dealers. Unfortunately, we live in a capitalist society and some people are focused on short term gains instead of long term strides. Ford undeniably underestimated demand for the GT model, but who can blame them when the car has exceeded aesthetic and performance expectations by leaps and bounds. I will tell you this car is sublime. It is so more than the sum of its parts and those parts are pretty damn amazing. I don't think Ford has dropped the ball at all. I believe they increased production from 120,000 to nearly 180,000, a substantial increase.
I hope you find an honest, reputable dealer and get your perfect GT. It is well worth the wait.
I've heard all sorts of horror stories on the dealer level. Not justifying it, but it has been a looonnngggg time since the Ford dealers had a "hit" of the magnitude of the current Mustang.
First and foremost, dealers found that they could get right around MSRP. Some even found they could get more than MSRP for the Mustang, so some of us who ordered this past winter were fearful that dealers would take our orders and sell them to people off the street for more money.
I was fortunate enough to find a dealer who was honest and honored my "X plan" order, even though he knew he could make $3K-$4k more for it if he put it on the showroom floor. As the SM told me, if he had known how popular the Mustang GT would be when I ordered, he would never have agreed to X plan pricing, but a deal is a deal. Others haven't been so fortunate with thier dealers.
Dealers have "strung out" some of their buyers by not telling them where they were in the ordering que or even that they had no more allotment. That meant many potential customers were waiting months and months for their orders with no hope of getting their cars. Some dealers actually would take a customer order and sell it without telling the original customer. Some dealers put their "in-stock" cars ahead of customer orders....again, meaning months of waiting with no real hope of getting a Mustang.
There's strong evidence that the orders for '06 models won't be much better since they are as strong as the '05s were (if not stronger). Rumor has it that it will be another year or more before Ford can catch up to the demand for the Mustang.
What that does mean is that those of us who have a Mustang (at least the GT version), resale should be very strong for the foreseeable future (although I have no desire whatsoever to give mine up).
1. Is it as fast as it looks? (Have the radar on the windshield of course).
2. Really nice car!
3. I like that blue.
I see no problem with my paint job. It was detailed real nice when I got it.
Also I have noticed at the different gas stations how the gas is easier to go inthan others.
I let it vent for a little and do not put the nozzle all the way in..Works fine.
I drive my main miles on the interstate, although I just went over 1000 miles and have had it 2 months now.
This car handles like a muscle car is suppose to. You hear the engine, feel the bumps and enjoy the power!!
FIrst, I assure you that Ford is not telling any dealer what to charge for new or used Mustangs. To do so would be ILLEGAL PRICE FIXING and Ford isn't the type of company that would bother with that.
Second, if you are really really serious about getting a Mustang GT and you are in Michigan, I suggest you contact a dealer in Canada. I have heard that many dealers in Canada have plenty of GTs.
Third, used Mustang GTs are selling OVER new car MSRP at auction.
My dealer purchased a V6 at auction with 12k miles on it. It sold in less than two weeks for only $600 under its original MSRP, and that was a V6. We usually sell same model year Taurues from auction at about half of to two-thirds of the new car MSRP.
Fourth, contact a dealership in Dixie, even Florida. Get a cheap flight down and drive your new Mustang home. Try one of the dealers in the Orlando area.
Fifth, I don't think Ford in their wildest dreams thought that they would build a 2 door, rear drive, 2+2 coupe, that would sell in such huge numbers that it currently accounts for 2% of US car sales (non-truck) and is selling better than 13 different car brands!
YES it is 2 late to order an 05, but there are dealers out there that have a New GT in stock or expected. My dealership has one due in middle of July, a Windveil Blue automatic.
CALL DEALERS NEAR AND FAR and be flexible in what you are willing to buy.
Even if you take something you didn't really want, you can keep looking for your perfect car and probably do a very favorable trade
Mark.
The thing you want to look for in ads is whether the price includes rebates you are not qualified for such as college grad or release customer. Or, rebates that are incompatible, for instance you can use a college grad or a military but not both.
Also newspaper ads really don't tell you anything about the dealer. Most dealers no matter how consionable they are have to advertise on the same terms as their competitors. If you competitor is using a rebate in his ad and you don't in yours then your price is higher.
Just look for stuff that is "too good to be true" Like *$8,000 for your trade guaranteed"
ALSO if you are on a dealer's lot and see addendum stickers on every car for "environmental package" and "market value adjustment", RUNNNNNNNNN.
Mark
Mark.
Thanks again!
The next day I went online and found every dealership's email in the three major cities around us. I ended up emailing about 40 dealerships asking if anyone would honor X Plan on a 2006 order. We received 15 emails back about 10 of which said they would honor the discount. After taking graphicguy's advice we emailed the 10 back and asked two questions 1. What priority on the VOC can you give us. and 2. What is your alottment situation.
3 dealerships emailed us back saying they would honor X Plan at priority 10 and stated exactly how many people had already ordered an 06. We made sure that the 10 dealerships knew they were competing with others and we ordered an 06 at X Plan from the closest dealership, with the best priority, with no orders ahead of us, who was consistent and willing to offer the most information. (it ended up being a small country dealership who was very responsive to get our business) He faxed us our DORA and VOC as well as answered all of our several questions. We feel confident about our order and we never had to leave the house and finished everything in about 3 phone calls.
If you are willing to drive a little further and email far and wide you can get a good deal without the schmoozing. The dealership we went to originally still has 3 GTs on their lot... and it's been about a month. Not that I don't want them to sell, but I can't wait to drive by in our 06 Tungsten GT and wave.
I'm even happier that you found a dealership you like.
Unfortunately, many dealers are still trying to get over MSRP. Sad fact, they probably will since there are very few '05s on the lots, build out is finished, and it will be weeks before the '06s are being produced.
Last (certainly not least), you're going to love your new Mustang.
Mark
No arguement there! :-)) I chuckle sometimes when I'm driving my GT to think that it would be easier for a person to go to a Porsche dealer or Ferrari dealer and drive off with a 911 Turbo or F430 than it would be to go to a Ford dealer and drive off with a Mustang GT in most parts of the country right now. :-))
And it seems the Mustang is holding its value right now better than any Honda ever has! Hilarious!
LOL, I agree, the old hag is 28. :P
I do have a vin number and thru carfax, know it was built, but thats all it tells me. After all, I ordered the thing 3/22..If he did rip me off, why would he give me a vin # ???
It's also possible your dearler just isn't used to having to track things so closely, Ford really hasn't had anything like this ever.
It's also possible your dearler just isn't used to having to track things so closely, Ford really hasn't had anything like this ever.
I've read more about people taking the information they learn here to their dealers about priority numbers, VOCs, allotments, etc and getting little more than blank stares.
Interesting that the plant is closed for so long for a minor model change over. I'm used to how Toyota does things, and nothing stops for long. Of course, it's possible that much is being rearrange on the floor to support a greater production volume and increased GT mix for next year. (Without a shread of info I predict they build 212k with 40% gt next year)
As far as the offline repair issue, it sounds like the real deal.
You're numbers maybe right. Towards the end of the MY, the plant was cranking at full capacity and hit 190,000 Mustangs produced. I'd say GT production should go up, but they will be limited by the number of 4.6L engines and TREMEC 5-speed manual trans they can produce. So, that 40% mix may be a little high, but the market is certainly there for that number.
But, you're right.....there are very minor changes to the Mustang. V6 models get a "Pony option" with a slightly different grill and tiny fog lamps. Colors change slightly and a new 18" wheel option. That's about it. Changeover should be "easy-peazy".
I thought they shut down the plant for a week or two to give everyone summer vacation.
I don't think they're shutting down just to change model year production.
During a major changeover, there's as much activity during plant shutdown as there is doing regular production time.
I would imagine that when the Flat Rock plant was readying itself for the '05 Mustang production, changes started a year or more before actual production started.
For the current Mustang, there are no process changes, and very few part changes from '05 to '06 models. I'm not sure what the changes are for the Mazda 6, however. It's in the middle of a current model run, so I doubt there will be many changes on that end, either.
New 6-speed ATX, NAV now an option, engine has been massaged, and I think a new center stack has been approved as well. I think that's it. Shouldn't be a big deal to re-tool for those either.
I'm going through some serious Mustang withdrawal. I know 2 months isn't that long of a time but it sure feels that way. Once it finally gets here, I'll probably take a week or so off from work so we can get real acquainted.
My other/practical car is a Nissan 240SX 1993 which I LOVE. I've had it this long because I've never had any problems with it and I've never found a car I liked as much.
That being said...age is catching up with 'er and while I love the convertible BMW for long trips and "fun" I need a more practical/affordable everyday car now.
I assumed I would look at the new 2006 Mustang as well as Mitsubishi Eclipse but then the Scion TC caught my eye and interest too.
From reading here..no 2006 Mustangs have shipped yet? Any idea when? The TC with all options will run about $2K to $3K less than the other two..obviously the Mustang has a V6 so that is one difference but would love to hear specifically any other input on the 2006 Mustangs when/if someone here gets on. Again..NOT looking at a GT this time...just the basic Mustang...and an AUTOMATIC which I wasn't even sure would be available as an option looking at edmunds here.
I've never been a "Ford" person - I've owned and loved Nissans for years and as I said this 13 year old 240SX has been an amazing car. NOTHING major has gone wrong...just brakes and I think one hose.
A concern is ROOM. The TC is a fully operational hatchback..like my 240SX and I've owned hatchbacks for a long time and love them. Mustang is a trunk right? I won't have passengers that often..but it looks like Mustang/Mitsu have less room than my 240SX, especially leg room and far less than TC for rear passengers and cargo.
So..would appreciate any input on the above..specifically on the 2006 Mustang Automatic (not the GT).
It seems a little boy racer for me. If not for the windshield Roush logo and the large rear wing, I could be much less worried about buyers remorse.
Your thoughts are welcome. www.roushperf.com www.roushparts.com
I drive out there and he takes me to the car. I immediately say..."this isn't my car". He says "yes it is". Everything was as ordered, but the top was parchment, not black. He checked his records, and everything in his files said they ordered a black top. They called Ford, who said "bull dingy, you ordered a parchment top." Basically, they blamed each other for the screw up. I suggested they take a black top off one on the lot, and put it on my car. They said "no can do". The only solution...order a new car. The dealer offered to pay for any mileage overage charges on my current lease.
June arrives and still no car. On July 1, the 2002 would become illegal (expired registration and inspection, and I wasn't making any more payments...thus it would be stolen). Luckily, I was out of town 6/27-7/5, so we had some extra time.
On 7/5 I get the call...it's here! I go the next morning, and everything's perfect on the car. Of course, things got hosed up on the financing. Long story short, they initially said payments would be $50/month more than I planned because the residual factor had fallen on April 7. This time, I said "bull dingy, that's your problem because I was fully prepared to drive away on April 1. Any costs due to time are your issue, not mine". After an additional 1/2 hour, they found a bank willing to get me to the payment I wanted.
Given the issues I've read on this board, I feel incredibly lucky to have gotten the car I wanted, even with the hassle. Though I believe the dealer screwed up the original order, they were willing to make me a satisfied customer.
Good luck, and yes, it's definitely worth the wait!