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I don't plan on getting rid of mine but it would be nice to know if it happened I wouldn't have to take such a loss.
I do have issues with my car that makes me want to think about trading it in though.
I see Edmunds lists the Mazda 6/ Speed6 as a editors pick for most wanted car for a sedan under 30K for 2007. Maybe that will help the resale value.
As for the clutch. The only complaint I have is that starting off in 1st from a stop, the clutch can be tricky at times. Sometimes I can get going with no problems and sometimes it doesn't seem to catch and I have to add more power than normal so I don't stall. Starting from a hill I like to say increases the difficulty rating.
It's not cheap to replace a clutch either. Try about $700-$800. It's something about a double clutch design and far as replacing it the mechanic has to drop a subframe and other not so easy things to get to it... causing a all day job.
You mention trade in because of vibration, maybe you should look at your state lemmon laws. :lemon:
I played the "tweaking" game with a brand new 2000 LIncoln LS from the start and the car had problems the entire time I had it..(7 years) It was falling apart at 40,000 miles. I wont go there again. especially sense your vibration problem is unique. Haven't heard of anyone else with the same complaint. :confuse: :confuse:
I just have to mention, I took my car out to the west desert last weekend. (Bonniville Salt Flat area) Took her to 130....5ish. Talk about an adrenalin rush. While driving 80 you can feel the peaks and valleys in the desert floor, once I hit 100 the car sucked itself to the road, and drove smooth as if on glass. We may as well have been sitting in the drive way. Unbelievable. Made me fall in love with the car for all new reasons. Not a noise, whistle,rattle or vibration. I would never suggest breaking the law, but if a mazda S6 owner gets the chance to legally, (or not) open her up, WOW. I was so tempted to push a little more, but the thoughts of spending the holiday season in Jail wasnt a pretty thought...
They get left on and the driver has no indicator in sight.
dumb dumb dumb... should be on the console in clear view :surprise:
No, seriously - thanks very much. Info passed on.
cosmetically?
To hook it up, all you will see is an antenna on your trunk. The wires are hidden in your vehicle, and there is nothing mounted on your dash. It is integrated through your factory sound system. So, how it looks now is how it will look when it is hooked up. Just press the "SAT" button, and you will see the Sirius radio working.
Now, on to snow tires. .................and I so dont like the cold and snow..
Spend the extra cash and get snow tires, whether they're on their own wheels, or on the stock wheels, or get a set of all-seasons if the snow isn't TOO bad, but it still gets cold in your area. The money spent now will be much less than the thousands you'll drop at a collision shop or insurance company. I've even heard of an insurance company denying someones claim because they were driving in a snowstorm on summer tires, and caused a chain-reaction.
Besides, I can only imagine just how much fun driving a MS6 in deep snow with snow tires on. I have enough fun with snow tires on my Mazda6!
Anyone see other published performance figures?
The Subaru Legacy 2.5 GT has even faster times than the Mazdaspeed 6, and with less horsepower (250 HP).
If anyone can post links to other performance statistics, please do. Thanks.
IMHO: MS6 has better stats and feels a lot better. If all you plan to do is drag the car, you should get LGT because it is also easier to mod...
Here is what it said about the Mazdaspeed 6:
Even if you aren't a pro in the bends, the Mazdaspeed 6 has an active torque-splitting all-wheel-drive system to help sort out any sloppiness. It usually pushes 50 percent of the engine's power to the front wheels, but can send as much as 100 percent to the front or rear wheels when necessary.
We may wish it was true, but Mazda only sends up to 50% of the power to the rear wheels if slippage is detected up front. Otherwise, about 100% of the power stays up front.
When you have 90% of the maximum 280 lb/ft of torque available beginning at 1800 rpm and 90% of that 280 lb/ft for another 500 rpm past the 5500 rpm horsepower peak, that is hardly a narrow powerband. Nor is it a lack of low-end torque.
Man! Some people just can't be satisfied!
This is true, however, numerous tests have shown that even though the AWD system is not as technical as Subaru's, it still handles much better. Remember, it is the total package combo of engine performance, handling, top end, and braking. That is where the MS6 shines
0 to 60 is not really a magic number to me. On the street it doesn't really matter if you hit exactly 60 mph quicker than the guy next to you, does it?
Seems to me a time from 5 to 85 mph would be just as good a comparison as 0 to 60.
Actually, I think my favorite statistic is trap speed at the end of a quarter mile run. That is a pretty good indicator or real world power and acceleration on the street.
What do you all think?
However, do not forget that this is a Spec B that sells for over 30k and MS6 sell in the low 20s! Regular LGT is even weaker on braking and cornering.
what a differance! Now no storm will hold me back!
I took my Speed6 to local MazdaSpeed Dealer and they charge $24.95 and wash my Speed6!
Any comments...
Love my White Speed6
Why? And which is more representative of the car?
Conversely, the number C&D achieved is with them revving the car up to 4-5K RPM and suddenly dropping the clutch, not exactly an easy (or healthy) way to achieve the number. And yes, you will kill the driveline VERY easily after repeated attempts.
I'd get as many performance numbers that you could find on the MS6, and take an average. Each source has their own methods of testing, which leads to a ton of variables.
Oh BTW, I've been watching your discussion on the ELLPS forum, and yes, despite the fact that Mazda isn't a luxury nameplate (and souldn't be on the list in that forum, IMO), the MS6 is indeed a performer, and with the outstanding deals you can negotiate over a Grand Touring model, it's easy to see why they call Mazda a "BMW on a budget". IMO, If price was the final determinant, it'd be the MS6 over the 3-series, G35, and IS350 any day of the week!
But what luxury and performance deficits keep the MazdaSpeed 6 from being an entry level luxury performance sedan?
YMMV: you milage may vary
Of course many folks like to compare their cars with brands that are a little higher on the food chain....When BMW make a car that offers the feature and performance of the speed6 for the same price as they are being sold for then I would be impressed. Anyone can make a nice car that sells for $40K plus.
I drove the G35 sedan, and it was OK, but not so much greater inside than the MS6. As for BMW, I just couldn't bring myself to spend 40K on a 3-series or 50K+ on a 5-series - what a waste!
Plus the G35 sedan and BMW's are very hard to find in stick. I would have had to order a BMW to get one locally. The G35 I test drove was an automatic, and the dealer would have had to do a trade to get a 6-speed... there were only 2 stick sedans in my entire state!
So taking into account availability and performance vs. price, the choice for me was clear. My only "gripe" about the Mazdaspeed is that the carpet inside is cheap. I previously had only seen carpet like that lining trunks.
Thats the main reason it should be in the entry level luxury performance sedans group- because it competes with them. And for my $ wins.
Even with turbo charged car?
Krzys
based on my experiences, i would never bring any car to Jiffy Lube.
If I Recall Correctly
Xenon HID's are on both MS6 models. Cheap paint? Please explain what you mean by that.
One can also argue that Audi has a far inferior performance for the luxury market. A mear 200hp for $40K..gimme a break.
Yes, paint is very thin. Xenon lights are only offered for the low beams: half assed offering!
MS6 has real value as far performance goes but the whole package is not adequately refined if we consider an MSRP over $30k. However, given the current street pricing, it is actually pretty decent value... IMHO.