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How would you like to be the guy that paid $25 grand for one of the first New Beetles on E-bay?
-juice
You never know - people paid MSRP for Odysseys, Pilots, S2000's, MDX's, and TL's for a few months to three years!! Although I highly doubt the Tri will be able to do that.
Ernie Boch Jr must have sent out some thugs. Must be nice to make a few bucks off every Subaru sold in New England without having to own a Subaru dealership.
By the way, I wonder what the New England Subaru "pricing adjustment" will be over Subaru's MSRP.
MDX had the benefit of being one of the first car-based SUVs with 3 rows. At least among the import crowd, which was thirsty for them.
Plus, both Ody and MDX were in short supply until Honda opened the 2nd production plant.
S2000 was low volume. Demand was never that high, it's just that supply was even lower.
Honda's own Pilot never commanded MSRP+ pricing, even though it's cheaper than the MDX (and bigger).
Here's the thing - Tribeca looks to be very competitive on paper (can't wait to drive it) but it does not have a magic feature to set it apart. It does offer a nice combination: 9" DVD and 18" alloys standard. :shades:
But I don't imagine people lining up for those. The main thing is that the near-luxury SUV segment is now FULL of great competitors. When the MDX came out it wasn't.
-juice
My buddy goes running after him and meets him at the next corner. They talk and the guy had just bought it, for sticker, at the same dealer my buddy ordered it from. His deal was $500 over invoice.
My buddy goes back to the dealer and it turns out it WAS his car. They told him they got a better offer for the special model. He took them to court and won, but all he got was the difference in money they made. Small victory, he never got his dream vehicle.
So, a valid order for a B9 should hold some value, even if you don't get a car.
Frank
But but but - all you Subanistas say the magic feature is that it's a Subaru!!
J/K'ing, but I get your line of reasoning.
The Pilot did get MSRP for some time IIRC.
Boch gets 1% of the holdback.
Frank
Boch gets 1% of the holdback.
I'm guessing that price is before destination. According to Subaru, MSRP for 5 Pas Ltd is $32,395 and desination is $625 totalling $33,020. The difference between the $32,950 you were quoted and the $32,395 is $555 - that's right around the $596 New England Subaru Distributor Invoice Charge added to the Legacy per carsdirect.com.
I'm just inferring here.
LX ~$25k (they only have 1 and no Tribeca compare to it anyway)
EX ~$27k
EX-L ~$29k
EX-L w/Ent ~$30.5k
EX-L w/Nav ~$32k
I wish they had an Acura store because honestly the Tribeca is about half way between that and the MDX in terms of features.
Using numbers jeff found for us:
5 pass: MSRP $31,320 / INVOICE $29,132
5 pass Limited: MSRP $32,920 / INVOICE $30,603
7 pass: MSRP $33,020 / INVOICE $30,520
7 pass DVD: MSRP $34,820 / INVOICE $32,180
7 pass Limited: MSRP $34,520 / INVOICE $31,911
7 pass Limited DVD: MSRP $36,320 / INVOICE $33,567
7 pass Limited NAV: MSRP $36,520 / INVOICE $33,750
7 pass Limited DVD & NAV: MSRP $38,320 / INVOICE $35,411
Prices include $695 destination.
So a base 7 pass invoices for $30,520, compared to $27k for a Pilot EX. I can see consumers paying $3500 extra if they like the way it drives and really want side curtain air bags and VDC.
But at MSRP+ you're talking $6000 more than the Pilot, and that's a bit much.
Loaded up it gets a little closer, the Pilot with Nav runs about $32k and the Tribeca will invoice for $33,750. That's pretty close and the extra safety features and shiny 18" rims close that gap.
But again, MSRP and you're talking $4500 more.
That's why I don't expect too many to sell for MSRP.
-juice
-juice
What dealer would turn down selling 10 vehicles at invoice on the same day?
All for one and one for all.
Charlie
Yup - sell at no profit but the volume will make up for it!! LOL
Perhaps on the 28th or 29th of the month.
"The B9 Tribeca is selling at the MSRP price $32,295 with a destination charge of $655 bringing the MSRP to $32,950.there are no current sale incentive available on the vehicle at this time."
Frank
1 of them in RI has a B9 in the showroom for the weekend.
The Highlander is a fine vehicle, and just down the street.
Frank
You'll still save and don't have to spend time or gas
My wife's main concern is matching the quality she has experienced with our Foresters. Toyota is the 1 place I feel comfortable that she will be happy, and never look back.
I wonder if they think the B9 is so attractive that it will attract a lot more than those of us who already are "believers" in the hardware. Even new customers don't pay MSRP, or even MSRP minus a ham sandwich.
As Juice said, prices will have to come down. There are too many vehicles and too few buyers. The problem is that it will be several years before they have another shot at my money, and there may be no reason to leave Toyota by then. Too bad, my wife prides herself on being one of the "cult".
At least I think I can fit in a B9.
Regards,
Frank
We don't buy from SOA we buy from SONE. We pay extra for the privilege, and some things are limited, but I admire the business sense he had.
Frank
Let's all meet in the center of the USA and discuss a plan. :shades:
Frank
Frank
Then I'm guessing the "invoice" price in New England is different than the rest of the country.
One thing to keep in mind when going outside of New England - emissions systems. I know the Legacy has a adder for CA emissions. No word yet on the Tribeca.
One thing you may want to consider, places like Fitzmall do courtesy drop ships. I remeber seeing a Legacy wagon at Ira in Danvers, MA that was sold to Fitzmall. It was labeled "Courtesy Delivery" by Ira. Might be worth a look.
He also took a chance on Toyota back in the 60's and did pretty well for himself. Boch Toyota sells about 1000 new units a month today. Ernie Sr died about a year ago - now his son Ernie Jr runs the business. www.boch.com
I saw two transporters leave the plant about 3 hours ago with you guessed it...nothing but Tribecas. They were also loading them on train cars at the same time.
Keep in mind since production volume is only 160 per day that it may take some time just to fill the pre order demand and only then can they start building dealer inventory. My vote for favorite color is black or white. Both colors make the Tribeca look premium.
BigFrank - are you looking to buy one now or are you just tire kickin?
The first dealer I went to in Wantagh, NY told me if you pre-order before May 2 Subaru gives you 2 bonus'. $500 off MSRP and one of the three - free towing package, $500 LL Bean gift card, or portable XM satilite radio. After May 2 he said the $500 off was gone. Bringing my price down to 32,440 for a 5 passenger Limited with towing. I have since found a much better deal in NJ.
And don't forget Clerical and advertizing fees that get passed on to the consumer.
As Joe Piscipo used to say on Saturday night live.....What exit ?
That is how far down the pike (time wise) do the New Englanders have to travel to this dealer. Would he be willing to do a volume order ?
Does anyone know for sure if premium fuel if "recommended" or "required" in the 6 cylinder?
Now that's a laugh....
I also got a price quote of $550 above invoice.
This tells me that Tribeca is going to be a big it. Especially because their target is modest & pricing is aggressive, considering people can buy it for 1-2 below msrp after a few months.
I think it will specifically take away Murano & Highlander customers, and some RX/MDX/X5/Outback.
I have a copy of the dealers hard bound catalog for the Tribeca
Under specifications it lists in these exact words :
Fuel requirements - Premium unleaded
Charlie
If you want to save some $ buy it in NJ. Subarus don't have the kind of problems that a few Saturdays won't fix.
I sat in the white one at the auto show and the 3rd row seat back wasn't working properly - The cars at the dealers "for a day" are still prototypes that are taking a lot of abuse. I wouldn't worry.
Charlie
Highlander is kinda dull. Don't do it Frank! Friends don't let friends buy boring cars!
Just kidding. We test drove one in 2002. I liked it OK, but the wife was bored to sleep and also found it wasn't very nimble or fun.
Krisshna: sshhhhh, if it's that popular prices will never come down to a point where I can afford it. Ironic, no? I'm more likely to buy one if it is not popular.
Actually Frank, go ahead and buy a Highlander. LOL
-juice
Premium required - first time we've seen that language.
-juice
Any buyers want to join me in NE this fall to buy Tribeca ?
The group buy is a valid idea. We need time to think it through. We have plenty of time - the Tribeca is not out yet and we want that initial demand to disappear and stock to build up.
Large group buys 10+ may be too overwhelming, occupying to much time for a small profit - this is not dealer to dealer sales - the paperwork still has to be done. However, 3-5 cars at a time, perhaps at different dealerships to accomodate location, just might work.
Charlie
I personally wouldn't bother with the 7 seater config. If you really need 7 seats you should be looking elsewhere.
Sly
trade-in is another problem. in group buys we should not trade-in. keep it simple, just buy the new one in bulk.
Personally I don't care for 7 seats, so I wouldn;t pay the extra for it. Sure, there are people who just want the convenience for the occasional short trip to the arena with the neighbour's kids. But beyond that, forget it; for those who truly need 7 seats, this will not cut it. The third row is more of a "pretend" row.
Sly
Now, are there any other members in this thread that think this group buy merits attention???
What say you???
Charlie