Project Cars--You Get to Vote on "Hold 'em or Fold 'em"

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  • qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 32,810

    Ok, I’ll bite: what features distinguish a “high country” mustang? And is the missing side chrome one of those features?

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  • texasestexases Member Posts: 10,640

    @qbrozen said:
    Ok, I’ll bite: what features distinguish a “high country” mustang? And is the missing side chrome one of those features?

    Here’s more than you might want to know about it. Only things special were the paint colors and badges, as far as I can tell.
    https://highcountrymustang.com/

  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 50,235
    same with most of those specials. Just trim packages.

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  • xwesxxwesx Member Posts: 16,708
    edited November 2021
    I thought the high country version was AWD with 8" of ground clearance and A/T tires....!
    2018 Subaru Crosstrek, 2014 Audi Q7 TDI, 2013 Subaru Forester, 1969 Chevrolet C20, 1969 Ford Econoline 100, 1976 Ford F250
  • texasestexases Member Posts: 10,640

    @stickguy said:
    same with most of those specials. Just trim packages.

    The California Special was a bit more, I think it had the Shelby sequential rear turn signals.

  • qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 32,810

    So it SHOULD have the side chrome. Wonder why the seller wouldn’t address that. Odd.

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  • explorerx4explorerx4 Member Posts: 19,102
    It looks like that Mustang has been repainted, so who knows what it really is.
    A Marti report would help.
    2023 Ford Explorer ST, 91 Mustang GT vert
  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 56,994
    The old dear is visiting a new shop today. The car hasn't had a service since before I moved here - the garage I intended to take it to sold, and the new owner has no interest in working on old cars. Fortunately, this metro area is large enough where another specialist wasn't hard to find (just a longer drive from home). Notice the signs above the door - on their site they show pics of old Land Rovers and even a Silver Cloud in the shop. On site were many odd cars - numerous high maintenance-looking VAG cars, an Opel GT, early TR-4, 240Z, numerous Jags. Everyone there loved the car:


  • xwesxxwesx Member Posts: 16,708
    Great to find such a place! Given the annual nature of the visit, it wouldn't be so far-fetched to take it to your old shop for the maintenance (well-coordinated with in-area visiting, of course).
    2018 Subaru Crosstrek, 2014 Audi Q7 TDI, 2013 Subaru Forester, 1969 Chevrolet C20, 1969 Ford Econoline 100, 1976 Ford F250
  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 56,994
    If it was a more modern car or I could take like a week off for the trip, maybe. But the 300 mile each way trip over a mountain pass and some steep hills is maybe an adventure the car might not enjoy too often (although it did handle the trip here just fine).

    That was one thing about my prior shop, I never hurried them - the car could end up there for 2-3 weeks if there was a hiccup, and I didn't mind.
    xwesx said:

    Great to find such a place! Given the annual nature of the visit, it wouldn't be so far-fetched to take it to your old shop for the maintenance (well-coordinated with in-area visiting, of course).

  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 50,235
    rx7 looks sweet.

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  • qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 32,810

    If that RX was a coupe, I’d be sorely tempted

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  • qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 32,810

    The isuzu is kinda cool

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  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 50,235
    171k on in I Mark. Might be a record.

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  • texasestexases Member Posts: 10,640
    That Mustang's pricey, but a better deal than the Nova, to me. If I was to restomod a '65, that'd be close to it.
  • explorerx4explorerx4 Member Posts: 19,102
    For that price the Mustang should have forged pistons.
    2023 Ford Explorer ST, 91 Mustang GT vert
  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 56,994
    Got a call about the fintail's service - guy said "that's such a nice old car" or something similar. No red flags, found a driveline part that might be causing a noise I hear, suggested the car gets a brake fluid change along with the service. Seems like an honest place, as it all comes to about half what I said I was willing to spend.

    Popped into CL again:

    Etcetera - I suspect there's more to the problem

    I wonder if someone traded this in

    Of all the things to restore, color appears correct anyway

    Rare convertible model

    Not a Syncro, not a low mileage preservation piece, not a low price

    Surprised this survived without being modded to ruin 20 years ago

    Getting rare, appears to be at least one stock photo, estate sale companies can be clueless about cars

  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 50,235
    edited December 2021
    The white Eclipse is cheap, but man it looks tired. That has a lot of needs, and once you start it is going to get real expensive.

    Green one could be nice if you spent some time cleaning it up, but slushbox ruins it.

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  • tjc78tjc78 Member Posts: 15,737

    Eldo looks pretty clean. Water pump on a Northstar isn’t that bad (needs a $20 tool) compared to other repairs on it. The AC is also out too… so that could get super pricey

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  • explorerx4explorerx4 Member Posts: 19,102
    In description of that Vanagon:
    .9-liter, water-cooled four-cylinder engine 2 Cyl
    2023 Ford Explorer ST, 91 Mustang GT vert
  • gsemikegsemike Member Posts: 2,255
    Long Island First Car Round-up: I have a friend that is looking

    Low mileage legacy Would this have been AWD in 04? What are the trouble spots to watch for? I'm thinking that this is a timing belt motor

    Higher mileage CRV These things can not be killed apparently

    This non-running Lexus These were such high-style when new. Could be worth a flyer

    Unloved Malibu But clean enough. Kind of weird ad

    This Altima should have some life left in it
  • texasestexases Member Posts: 10,640
    Pretty sure that Legacy was AWD, and had the head gasket problems, and a timing belt.
  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 50,235
    Altima looks like good bet. I think that’s pre CVT.

    Subaru is AWD. I’m guessing usual head gasket and timing issues. And other assorted stuff.

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  • qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 32,810

    Malibu I assume has the 2.2 ecotec. Could be a wise buy.

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  • explorerx4explorerx4 Member Posts: 19,102
    edited December 2021
    2023 Ford Explorer ST, 91 Mustang GT vert
  • gsemikegsemike Member Posts: 2,255
    stickguy said:

    Altima looks like good bet. I think that’s pre CVT.

    Subaru is AWD. I’m guessing usual head gasket and timing issues. And other assorted stuff.

    Yes, the altima would be a 4 sp AT
  • xwesxxwesx Member Posts: 16,708
    stickguy said:

    Altima looks like good bet. I think that’s pre CVT.

    Subaru is AWD. I’m guessing usual head gasket and timing issues. And other assorted stuff.

    Maybe on the Legacy, but it's gotta be one of the best ones out there! Looks great... especially for the year and location!
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  • tjc78tjc78 Member Posts: 15,737

    I’m feeling green today…. I’d take the Bonnie or the T-bird to knock around in. Curious about the Thunderbird, did he convert it to a V8 with the 5.0 or is just clueless and doesn’t realize it is a 4.6.

    That 92 600 is a lot of car for 22K… but I can only imagine running costs in that will hurt.

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  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 50,235
    I like the design on that vintage bonneville too.

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  • tjc78tjc78 Member Posts: 15,737

    I had a 98 Olds 88 same basic car. I got a lemon plagued with water leaks, but I did enjoy driving it.

    You could do a lot worse for $1950

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  • ab348ab348 Member Posts: 18,926
    I've never seen a used vehicle advertised as "in good shape for the year" actually be in good shape.

    2017 Cadillac ATS Performance Premium 3.6

  • gsemikegsemike Member Posts: 2,255
    Interesting seeing the MonteLumina and the Acura CL side by side. I guess they would have sort of competed in the late 90s and the Acura looks so much more nicely put together. GM really could make a lousy interior at that time
  • andres3andres3 Member Posts: 13,714
    edited December 2021
    I returned my Rotel Surround Receiver for a full refund. It'll help pay for the Audi 3.0 motor. Also, my HK 7550HD receiver in storage still works perfectly and is easily 99% of the Rotel even if manufactured 11 years ago. This HK is under-rated, and they don't make them like they used to.
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  • xwesxxwesx Member Posts: 16,708
    andres3 said:

    I returned my Rotel Surround Receiver for a full refund. It'll help pay for the Audi 3.0 motor. Also, my HK 7550HD receiver in storage still works perfectly and is easily 99% of the Rotel even if manufactured 11 years ago. This HK is under-rated, and they don't make them like they used to.

    Sounds like a smart decision.

    My last receiver, purchased in 1998, lasted me for a couple decades before it finally said "no more!" I have yet to replace it because I just can't get such a unit to the top of my priority list. My son ended up installing a unit (not even sure what brand) that he came across as an old freebie reject, and it works just fine.

    Problem solved!
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  • andres3andres3 Member Posts: 13,714
    xwesx said:

    andres3 said:

    I returned my Rotel Surround Receiver for a full refund. It'll help pay for the Audi 3.0 motor. Also, my HK 7550HD receiver in storage still works perfectly and is easily 99% of the Rotel even if manufactured 11 years ago. This HK is under-rated, and they don't make them like they used to.

    Sounds like a smart decision.

    My last receiver, purchased in 1998, lasted me for a couple decades before it finally said "no more!" I have yet to replace it because I just can't get such a unit to the top of my priority list. My son ended up installing a unit (not even sure what brand) that he came across as an old freebie reject, and it works just fine.

    Problem solved!
    It's funny, some of the tech is the problem these days; not directly car audio related, but home receivers like the Rotel had these issues:

    Positives = excellent amp section, toroidal power sourcing, and sound quality.

    Negatives = No DSD reader (Super Audio CD format) this one is a head scratcher for a high-end 2021 unit, HDMI compatibility issues with both my TV and Direct TV Sources, and a Center Channel switching issue where voices (center channel) completely disappeared about 5% of the time (could be a HDMI issue, or a defect). The user interface could be better too. For example, the first mic sound test my HK does is to verify which speakers are connected "on" or "off." This tells the receiver if your running 5.1, or 5.2, or 7.1 or 7.2 as the case may be. Instead, the Rotel is "dumb" and says "there's too much noise to get a good reading" and you can't optimize the sound. What happened was I had it in 7.2 mode and I'm running 5.1. It mistook the silence of certain speakers as (low signal to noise ratio on the mic) rather than the intelligent response of "that speaker doesn't exist."

    Another con is they made it hard wire ethernet instead of wi-fi for the audio room equalization efforts. I don't blame them too much for that since it is supposed to be a "no frills" unit.

    Another plus is on the multi channel analog input you can still apply room equalization improvements/settings to that source (a Mistake Denon still makes in 2021).

    My HK can do that too though. My HK is also missing DSD reading ability in digital, but it's 11 years older so that's understandable; just have to go analog.

    My HK doesn't have a phono input but I already have a decent phono preamp box so no loss there.
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  • sdasda Member Posts: 6,884
    @andres3 Are you having the engine rebuilt or buying a replacement? When will it be completed?

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  • andres3andres3 Member Posts: 13,714
    edited December 2021
    sda said:

    @andres3 Are you having the engine rebuilt or buying a replacement? When will it be completed?

    New replacement out of Germany with 0 miles. Expected right around the Holiday so hoping they complete the work between the Holidays by 2022, or sooner if it arrives sooner.

    Paid the State over $400 for registration for "planned operation" so I want my miles worth.
    '15 Audi Misano Red Pearl S4, '16 Audi TTS Daytona Gray Pearl, Wife's '19 VW Tiguan SEL 4-Motion
  • andres3andres3 Member Posts: 13,714
    ab348 said:

    I've never seen a used vehicle advertised as "in good shape for the year" actually be in good shape.

    What about the AC "just needs a recharge?"

    Some kid told me to advertise the S4 on "offer up" as "doesn't run" and that someone would be dumb enough to pay more since that apparently sounds better than "needs new engine."
    '15 Audi Misano Red Pearl S4, '16 Audi TTS Daytona Gray Pearl, Wife's '19 VW Tiguan SEL 4-Motion
  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 56,994
    Like "low mileage for year" on a 40 year old car with 250K on it, and the seller is basing it on an average of 15K/yr.
    ab348 said:

    I've never seen a used vehicle advertised as "in good shape for the year" actually be in good shape.

  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 50,235
    just watched the latest Hoovies video. A new record for miles. He just picked up a 2004 Ram Cummings with 958,000 miles. And drove it 1,000 miles home, over the Rockies. With zero issues.

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  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 56,994
    I bet it's a 4.6.

    MB would be like maintaining a castle, but ones like that are getting hard to find. Also a car from the wiring harness years, although if it is still running, I'd wager the part has been replaced.
    tjc78 said:

    I’m feeling green today…. I’d take the Bonnie or the T-bird to knock around in. Curious about the Thunderbird, did he convert it to a V8 with the 5.0 or is just clueless and doesn’t realize it is a 4.6.

    That 92 600 is a lot of car for 22K… but I can only imagine running costs in that will hurt.

  • tjc78tjc78 Member Posts: 15,737

    @stickguy said:
    just watched the latest Hoovies video. A new record for miles. He just picked up a 2004 Ram Cummings with 958,000 miles. And drove it 1,000 miles home, over the Rockies. With zero issues.

    Not sure if that is brave or stupid.

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  • tjc78tjc78 Member Posts: 15,737
    edited December 2021

    @fintail said:
    I bet it's a 4.6.

    MB would be like maintaining a castle, but ones like that are getting hard to find. Also a car from the wiring harness years, although if it is still running, I'd wager the part has been replaced.

    Only thing that made question the T-bird is no V8 badge on the fender. Most likely the car was repainted and they didn’t put it back.

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  • explorerx4explorerx4 Member Posts: 19,102
  • qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 32,810

    @tjc78 said:

    @stickguy said:
    just watched the latest Hoovies video. A new record for miles. He just picked up a 2004 Ram Cummings with 958,000 miles. And drove it 1,000 miles home, over the Rockies. With zero issues.

    Not sure if that is brave or stupid.

    Neither since he did it purely for video content.

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  • tjc78tjc78 Member Posts: 15,737

    Yeah it was always the 5.0 (both standard and HO in
    later years) until 93.

    My Mom had a 96 in Pacific Green over beige. It was very well equipped but had the 3.8. I enjoyed driving it, but was kinda slow.

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  • sdasda Member Posts: 6,884
    tjc78 said:

    Yeah it was always the 5.0 (both standard and HO in

    later years) until 93.

    My Mom had a 96 in Pacific Green over beige. It was very well equipped but had the 3.8. I enjoyed driving it, but was kinda slow.


    Was it cursed with blown head gaskets like so many 3.8s?

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  • tjc78tjc78 Member Posts: 15,737
    edited December 2021

    No that was reserved for my 93 Taurus! It was around late 95/96 when they finally made them better and less prone to fail.

    Other than very problematic AC that car was flawless the ten years she had it (75,000 miles or so)

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