I JUST BOUGHT A 2006 2500 4X4 CUMMINS--I HAVE A FEW QUESTION (TRADE-IN 2001 POWERSMOKE)
WHAT DO I DO IF ANYTHING FOR A BREAK IN ? BEST OIL TO USE? IS THERE A CHIP THAT DODGE WILL WARRANTY? HOW MUCH WILL PERFORMANCE AIR ELEMENT HELP AND WHAT KIND SHOULD I GET? ANY OTHER ADVISE TO A VIRGIN CUMMINS OWNER WOULD HELP THANKS
1. what is the gear ratio? 4:10 or 3:73 2. At 75 mph, RPM should be at 2100 3.73. what is yours? 3. Fuel Filter, change every 10,000 miles. 4. Air filter must be clean. 5. Do you buy fuel at the same depot? Different fuel stops can change the performance. I am on my 3rd Cummins and all three have performed 19 plus on the road and 17-18 in traffic. May ask your dealer to reflash the ECU for your vehicle. Your ECU may have been programed for another specification. This can happen. Diesel8
First thing, hook up to the max load you will tow and run for 4 hours hard. This sets the engine as to what you expect. Sound silly, however I have been in the class 6,7,8 truck market for 27 years and the big rigs start out at the max weight. I have found this true for my personal cummins engines as well. Chip, I just bought a power module from super chip,3805, and love it. +5mpg. Haven't towed the offshore boat yet. Warranty, before dealer service, change it back to stock. Dealers will void the warranty even thougth they advised me on the super chip. I use the K&N filters, they perform very well. Oil, Shell Rotella Synethic and a mobil one oil filter. 7500 miles between changes. The new high output engines will turn the oil black very fast, so don't get concerned.
I saw you have an 05 I'm also interested in an 05 or 06 4x4 6-speed but would like to know real time mileage with and without chips before I buy? also My business partner has an 05 dually and wants to put the edge on it and wants to know what the best chip or program is?
Real mileage without a chip, around Charlotte, some country driving, 18-19. Interstate, 70+ 19.5 -20. The super chip around town 21, interstate 23.9-24.9. I used the percormance towing program which added around 55 HP and gave the best range. I a well pleased with the results. Just came back from Charleston and averaged 24.2. Mileage is a little better if their is a little rain.
Just got my '06 Ford F350 w/6.0 back from the dealer for the 3rd time for "Poor Fuel Economy", and they have no answers....AGAIN! I get 10-11mpg Empty.
An engineer from Ford actually came out and performed the diagnostics, and said "Nothing Is Wrong." He also told me, "Ford does not post mileage on their Super Duty Trucks, and therefore does not warranty the fuel mileage. He went on to tell me that even though the mileage is at the lower end of the scale, he feels it is within Ford's specification.
This is my 5th Powerstroke, so I know how they supposed to perform. With a shortbox, and a 28 gallon fuel tank, I get about 250 miles and have to look for a fuel station.
The Ford dealer told me they would trade me out of it for $10,000 to boot, and the truck is only 6 months old! I'm frustrated enough to trade this one off for a Dodge or Chevy.
My old Poewerstrokes 6.0 and 7.3 consistantly got 15-16mpg empty and 12-13mpg pulling horse trailers and a 10,000lb 5th wheel.
I'm looking to buy an 04 or 05 Dodge turbo most of the use will be in town the towing will be in summer months pullling a 9,000 boat to the ocean which requires a travel over a steep mt pass ( alaska)
are you still enjoying your truck what gear ratio should I get and after mark products should I ad? a chip? raise the front end? (why would I do that)
I just got a recall mailer from ford today. Said the engine may not be set to run at optimal level or something like that. They said I have to take it in so they can hook it up and reconfigure it my gas mileage sucks now 12-13 empty city hopefully this will improve maybe your truck is on this recall too
YES, I still love my Dodge Diesel. After adding the Quad.chip and boosting HP to almost 400HP, it is like driving a high performance sports car. My gas mileage has remained 2 to 4 MPG above stock. However, after driving a 2001 standard 6 speed the other night, I am wondering if I was towing up and down hills if I would not consider a standard transmission next time. I was extremely impressed by the 6 speed transmission! I was pulling a 32 foot goose next and I never even knew it was behind me. So, I guess my recommendation (even though I love my auto) you may consider a standard transmission for towing up and down mountains.
WHY are the '04 4x4's so low?? I have one...and have been disappointed in the economy from day 1. (This is my 2nd Cummins. I average 12-14mpg, when I'm towing on hwy, I got 10-12 at 72mph. I can eke out a little better when I drive like Grandma, and keep the cruise on 55. 17 is the best I've ever done. My truck has 45,000 miles on it, larger tires, and I keep the fuel filter changed religiously. I put a Bullydog on it and while it absolutely smoked, my leadfoot didn't help the economy ...it actually went down! So I didn't buy the bullydog. Should I try another chip? What can I do? I love everything else about my truck...surely there's something I can do. The dealer says nothing's wrong, but admits it should do better. Thanks for any advice...
I am not sure if it is just the 04 model or more to do with 4x4? I would suggest adding locking hubs to your truck. I have been told by several reliable sources that this will increase your mileage by 2 to 3 MPG. I have recieved better mileage with my Quadzilla vs. factory (2-4MPG better, if you can keep your foot out of it). I actually stated 5 to 6 MPG better in my first post about my Quadzilla. What I found was that the chip interferes with the digital mileage meter. Once I actually put it on paper it was around 2MPG pulling trailers. It definetly seems to help my MPG.
I recently bought a 2000 2500 4X4 quad cab long bed diesel auto and this is my first diesel. A friend installed the edge ez in his ford diesel and loves it. So I started to do some research and have seen chips and programmers use and wondering their advantage. I have a 25" toy hauler trailer I will be pulling loaded about 8000 lbs. I would like a little more power and better gas mileage is always a good thing. Any info for a new be would be help. Thanks!!
Yes, I do believe Cummins is capable of getting 25MPG. I have friends that constantly get 24 MPG, mostly highway driving with some city. Personaly I keep my foot in it way to much. I usually average between 18-19 MPG, pulling a trailer mixed with highway and city driving (loaded/unloaded,no trailer,with trailer) Another words, I have not ran a full tank without mixing pulling into the equation. If I strap a loaded trailer on and run until empty, I will probably average 16 MPG (12-14 before the chip). --I had a hard time believing this also. After seeing my truck break in and watching the numbers, I do see where these trucks can hit the 25 mark.--
I am about to purchase a 2006 4x4 quad cab short bed Dodge w/ cummins. Ive been reading this message board quite a bit and have a couple of questions...
I will be 95% on the highway, empty 90% of the time. so I am mostly interested in getting better mileage... can someone tell me the best thing to do?
I read somewhere about locking hubs, is that something that can only be done after-market? or can the factory do that?
And the chips... are there any that will not void my warranty? thanks!
95% highway - you will definetly be pleased driving highway miles.
Locking hubs - probably can be added at the factory for a substantial price. I would buy aftermarket and install them myself. A buddy of mine said it can easily be done with limited tools in about 2 hours per hub.
Warranty and Chips (Quadzilla)- it plugs into your exsisting wiring at your fuel rail. If you have to take your truck back for factory repairs;unplug the chips wiring harness and plug your factory connectors back in, remoave chip wiring harness and chip (takes about 10 minutes). The factory can not tell you ever had this chip on your truck. This chip only tricks your computer into giving more HP. It does not modify your factory settings. If that makes any since?
Locking hubs... are these like the red dial that came with my '93 toyota truck? where you have to get out and turn dial on the wheel? if so, how does that work with the factory wheels?
Chips... increased HP isnt as important as fuel economy to me, however if the chip means better fuel economy and a bonus of more HP thats fine with me. would you still recommend getting the quadzilla? thanks!
deiselden: i also forgot to ask... do you know a general price for after market locking hubs? and what manufacturer would you recommend for that? thanks again
Eliminator - I have no idea about the chip. I do know that it seems more difficult to go into your brain and take a chance of static electricity hitting your original card vs. just plugging in chip to your fuel rail. On the hubs - the only information I found was hubs for late year models up to 1993. I will ask the friend of mine what year model and where he purchased the hubs. Quadzilla - yes I would still recommend this chip. I rode in a Ford 6.0 with a Quadzilla race chip yesterday and was very impressed! He can actually put his dually in 4wd and smoke all the tires. I know that I or few others would need to try this, but I did think it was impressive for a dually to be able to do this.
I have also heard of the cummins motor at 30,000 miles or so u can take it to the dealer and have them adjust the valve timing or something like that. But not all dealerships have the machine to do it. I have heard the state that I live in has only one machine in the entire state. But it is supposed to give u 2-3 mpg.
you provided some great info that many of us could benefit from. however, you failed to give us specific info on a number of things such as: the power-module on your rig, and overall the "wise mans" set-up for similar diesels. :confuse:
many of us understand the general guidelines here, but are totally confused about really successful diesel set-ups. so please ... spare us the incognito crap and give us specifics on your set-up and/or other recommendations. :shades:
in closing can anyone out there recommend a simple, and if possible, inexpensive set-up for 2000ish ford/dodge diesels? i want to maximize mileage, run vegetable oil and/or biodiesel and if possible increase hp.
The light-duty diesel trucks by GM all feature a lift pump designed to deliver fuel from the fuel tank to the injection system. Their importance to the overall operation of the engine cannot be overstated. Without proper lift pump pressure and delivery flow, the injection system in these trucks will not be able to function properly.
Testing lift pump pressure is a relatively easy task and one, which should be done periodically to assure that the lift pump is healthy.
Heath Diesel produces fuel pressure test gauge kits for the 6.5 diesel and these are listed below.
GM 6.5 Diesel The GM 6.5 turbo-diesel engine found in the ’92-’00 truck, Suburban and step van is supplied by a frame-rail mounted electric lift pump. This pump is powered by a relay when the engine’s starter in engaged and by an oil pressure switch while the engine is running. It is designed to supply the fuel injection pump at a pressure of approximately 7 psi at idle. The more important fuel supply pressure reading, though, is that measured while the vehicle is being driven.
The Heath Diesel Power fuel pressure test gauge kit for these 6.5 vehicles is connected to the fuel filter drain cock which is located near the thermostat housing at the front of the engine. The drain cock features an outlet nipple onto which a drain tube is installed. The HDP Fuel Pressure Test Gauge (Part #HDP1456), features a specially sized hose, which is slipped onto the nipple of the drain cock after the drain hose is removed.
The HDP test gauge is taped onto the exterior surface of the windshield for viewing while the vehicle. While driving, fuel pressure should not go below 2 psi and should, more ideally, be in the range of 2.5-3 psi.
Heath Diesel Power supplies a Heavy-Duty Version of the Factory Electric Lift Pump (Part #HDP1300). Heath Diesel Power also supplies the relay and oil pressure switches used in these vehicles here.
Feel free to contact Heath Diesel Power with any questions you may have regarding issues you are experiencing with your vehicle. We are always happy to help.
whats the normal process w/ a chip{d} truck before service dept. visits. do you remove programming and what if truck is disabled how has ford been w/warranty coverage?? :confuse:
My local dealership rejected a blown engine under warranty and said they handed the guy a bill for $15,000+++.
They said the chip caused the engine to blow, and Ford will not honor the warranty.
Ford's current computer isn't smart enough to know if/when a chip was installed, once it's been removed. The tech told me that Ford is changing their software to recognize and record a change to the program.
What's really funny, is that the dealership sells "Chips and Programmers" in their parts department!!!
Be very carefull with 6.0 litre diesel chips > You will void your warranty and yes ford can find it! The engine is so close to max as delivered you may pop it! I know some will write and say "I have no Problems with mine" don't buy it! If ya have'ta put a air cleaner kit and a cat back exhaust system NO CHIP! Warranty is still void but it will run somewhat better. :lemon: Oh Yeah! Keep it under 2000 RPM's (around 1800) will reward you with the best Fuel Economy. When the Turbo kicks in it drinks like GW Bush.
I just installed a Bully dog chip, economy/tow setting and a aFe high flow air filter. I also have 265-75 16 tires, and the chip allowed me to adjust the size, which corrects MPG, speed , etc.. I am getting MIXED 16.5MPG, 22MPG @ 60MPH on the freeway. The 16.5 is a 3 tank average. The truck runs HARD. I do tow, but only about 4000 - 5000lbs TOTAL. Love the truck, no problems, and the install of the bullydog was EZ, but read the directions THROUGLY. Going to add a 4 inch SS Muffler next and see how that goes. FYI, FrankoDuraMAx
I'm looking to purchase a 2005 F-250 to use for everyday driving and pulling a 3 horse trailer. This truck has a AFE air filter, a modified exhaust, and Ford manual locking hubs. What mpg might I anticipate? Also, please explain the locking hubs advantage and usage.
hey there alcowgirl,I don't know if you have had any luck but what size of engine do you have first. also it is hard to say what your mileage would be due to the modified exhaust. you would have to check fuel mileage with a fuel fill on high way and fuel fill in town. then you'll get a est, on what it is. then when you pull your trailer it will be less gas mileage too. for your 4X4 do you have shifter in the vehicle or button to activate 4X4? DO NOT DRIVE 4x4 on dry pavement it will wear out your bearings. if you read your manual it will tell you everything you need to know about use of 4X4.good luck.I HAVE A 2000 F250 7.3L AND I pull a 4 horse trailer like its not even there.
I would be interested in a Envoy, Trailblazer, Highlander or simulair sized vehicle with a diesel engine does anyone out there know of such plans ? I have heard from people who go to Europe they have vans, suv's ect over there with diesel, but do not have connections to purchase overseas. Any suggestions welcome. Pkr Bkr
I just cruised all of posts on this forum. (Doing a little research for other reasons). There are several chips and modules on the market. I see several posts with concerns about fuel mileage, exhaust temps and warranty issues. If you simply want a fast truck get whatever produces the most hp. If you want reliability, fuel mileage and safety there are products out there that fit the bill. Not all performance products produce high egt's. If it smokes more than stock you are making higher egt's than stock. The smoke is un burned fuel. Remember not all products make heat. The newer diesels will tolerate higher egt's but, be cautious. More hp is hard on the drivetrain. Most modules and chips yield better fuel mileage when driven "normal". All of the current diesel engine have an rpm sweet spot. My Dodge gets super mileage under 74 mph. After 74 I loose 2 mpg with or without a performance device. If I could stand to drive 65 and under it would certainly get 21+. I just don't have the patience for that. Most people wonder why there are people with the same EXACT truck get better or worse fuel mileage than they do. The biggest variable in current diesels is injector build quality. The injectors are called good if the fit in a 20-30% range. The variable depends on the make of truck. If you get a truck with 6 or 8 better quality injectors your truck will have more power and get better fuel mileage than the person with the lower percentage of quality injectors. Most aftermarket performance injectors are simply a balanced, calibrated set. Companies work the injector to get 100% efficiency. They yield better fuel mileage and more power. My experience is the Duramax has the most consistent mileage and power. The Dodge is 2nd but, seems to vary. The pre "600" Dodges yield better fuel mileage. The 03-04.5 Fords were all over the map. I have seen people get 11mpg loaded or empty and others get 15 pulling with their 6.0. I have a friend with an 03 6.0 that gets 12mpg empty and loaded. I find that really weird. Word is that Ford has fixed most of their injector issues in their 05-06 models. The fuel changes over the most recent years has magnified the fuel economy variables even more. I am by no means an expert but, have done quite a bit of research.
Come out here to So Cal, and you will "find" the patience for that 21+ MPG LOL....Ca High Patrol will see to that...I was bullhorned going out to the desert for 58MPH while towing my trailer and Dune buggies. I think MPG has a lot to do with driving style...I drive my truck like grandma, only flooring it sparingly i.e. freeway on ramps, etc..It's plenty fast, 2006 Duramax,6spd,Afe,4 inch SS exhaust, Bully Dog set @ 350HP and 774 Ft lbs torque... And drive 65 MPH(vig enforced here) or less...I have a TRD Prepped Lexus GS 400 capable of 160MPH IF I want to drive fast,w/ the the brakes, handling, etc...These are trucks, and most peoples daily driver/fun toy hauler. I did NOT know about injector variability....mine seems to run good. I also wonder IF all these people are switching to BIGGER tires, then throwing the MPG off...almost every Diesel around here has big tires, but how many have the proper re-programmer to adjust the size???I'll venture to say this plays a bigger role IMHO then any other single variable out there, IMHO, Franko
I don't know about GM's plans but I currently own an 2006 Jeep CRD and love it. I drive it like a rented mule, 80-85 on the Highway for an hour drive and back and get a little over 26 mpg on the tattle tale trip computer. I hope more manufacturers embrace Diesel so we can lessen our dependence on foreign oil.
I also have a CRD and love it. If I could have stuck with chevy and gotten a diesel that didn't have a 500ft-lb i would have. I am still getting the out of the box milage 22-23 mpg, considering Diesel is 10 to 20 cent cheaper per gallon than gas is (here in SC) that is really good.
Lookin up some info the "Cummins 600" name came about on January 1, 2004, with th mid-04' model. Inconel valves and high-cobalt content Stellite exhaust valve seats complemented revised ports with less swirl, a bigger turbo compressor wheel, and electronic wastegate control for the HY-35 turbo... Courtesy of "Diesel Power"
I put an Edge chip in my 99 2550 Ford with the 7.3 and if anything the mileage went down. For the most part I couldn't see a great power increase... setting 2... I had it removed before taking it to the Ford dealer for warranty work on the tranny ... I won't put it back on... It was nice however to see EGT's... etc.. Too bad Ford didn't put guages on the dern Ford. I guess they didn't trust us with too much information.
I have a 99 Ford 250 and with no trailer I have several times recorded 20 and 21 mpg... and that's over 500 mile trips..from central Florida to Spartanburg, SC. I have the same rear end.. and 2000 revs is about 70 mph.. right.. ??
If anyone can advise to any problem listed I would greatly, greatly appreciate it:
I own a 2004 2500 HD Duramax Diesel with an Edge products (Juice) chip. Here is what I know about the truck that I thought may be causing some of the problems especially with the poor fuel economy: It has no catalytic converter, and has stainless exhaust from the turbo back. It is chipped as mentioned above. I am getting horrible fuel economy. I need help/suggestions desperately.
Here are some things that lead me to believe there is a wiring problem.
1) The remote (for unlocking/locking doors) – Remote 1 actually sets for driver 2 settings. Remote 2 actually sets for driver 1 settings. Unlock button of remote 1 actually locks the doors instead of unlocking. The mirror memory does not hold setting 98% of the time. After truck has been off and then restarted (regardless of amount of time – 5 mins. or for hours), mirrors move (usually down and in) from set memory position.
2) Edge Products (The Juice) computer chip – When truck is not running (even after 24 hour period), the exhaust gas temperature and engine temperature remain high. Example: when only the accessory is turned on (just enough to operate radio, windows, the Edge display unit, etc.) the exhaust gas temp. reading always displays in the high one hundreds (again, even after truck is not running for 1 to 48 hours – it doesn’t matter). This reading (EGT), jumps or fluxuates from 3 to 5 degrees up or down. The engine temp. reading (again after truck has been off for a lengthy amount of time) always displays a high number. Usually close to a hundred degrees or so. I would believe that when engine has not been running for many hours, that these displays should show close to, if not “0”. When engine is off, the “boost” and “load” displays on the Edge readout show “0” as they should.
3) 75 to 80% of the time, when truck is turned over and started, the “message center” display says, “battery not charging.” Although I have never had a battery related problem or any indication that battery(s) have or are losing charge.
4) Gas mileage is absolutely horrible. Average city mileage is 11 to 12 per gallon and highway average is 14 to 16 per gallon. This is driving the truck very light. Basically “babying” it and not nailing the pedal. I have tried various settings on the Edge chip display and have noticed very, very little if no difference. Setting 1 on the Edge is supposed to be a “mileage” setting and actually seems to be the worst.
I have thoroughly cleaned the air filter (which is an aftermarket “Tru-Flow” intake and filter). Changed the fuel filter. Pulled terminals were Edge wires lead into a re-plugged them in with the idea that this would “reset” the chip. Also attempted to “reset” everything by disconnecting the battery(s), waiting a period of time, and then reconnecting battery(s).
Regardless, I am pretty sure this shows that there is a wiring problem somewhere along the way. I am unsure how to go from here. Any and ALL suggestions again, will be greatly appreciated. Someone out there must have an answer.
I observe many people who have diesel pickups (of all kinds) letting them idle (while parked) for long periods rather than turning the engines off. My question is: Does this really make much sense? I can appreciate why an 18 wheeler requires the engine to run (keep batteries charged, load cool, etc) but is there a good reason why this is done on a personal vehicle? A secondary issue may be with additional noise and air pollution and with increasing a somewhat negative image some have of diesels in the first place. I think diesels are fantastic but I know many who hate the noise, etc. Thanks, Bill
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WHAT DO I DO IF ANYTHING FOR A BREAK IN ?
BEST OIL TO USE?
IS THERE A CHIP THAT DODGE WILL WARRANTY?
HOW MUCH WILL PERFORMANCE AIR ELEMENT HELP AND WHAT KIND SHOULD I GET?
ANY OTHER ADVISE TO A VIRGIN CUMMINS OWNER WOULD HELP
THANKS
2. At 75 mph, RPM should be at 2100 3.73. what is yours?
3. Fuel Filter, change every 10,000 miles.
4. Air filter must be clean.
5. Do you buy fuel at the same depot? Different fuel stops can change the performance.
I am on my 3rd Cummins and all three have performed 19 plus on the road and 17-18 in traffic. May ask your dealer to reflash the ECU for your vehicle. Your ECU may have been programed for another specification. This can happen.
Diesel8
I use the K&N filters, they perform very well. Oil, Shell Rotella Synethic and a mobil one oil filter. 7500 miles between changes. The new high output engines will turn the oil black very fast, so don't get concerned.
An engineer from Ford actually came out and performed the diagnostics, and said "Nothing Is Wrong." He also told me, "Ford does not post mileage on their Super Duty Trucks, and therefore does not warranty the fuel mileage. He went on to tell me that even though the mileage is at the lower end of the scale, he feels it is within Ford's specification.
This is my 5th Powerstroke, so I know how they supposed to perform. With a shortbox, and a 28 gallon fuel tank, I get about 250 miles and have to look for a fuel station.
The Ford dealer told me they would trade me out of it for $10,000 to boot, and the truck is only 6 months old! I'm frustrated enough to trade this one off for a Dodge or Chevy.
My old Poewerstrokes 6.0 and 7.3 consistantly got 15-16mpg empty and 12-13mpg pulling horse trailers and a 10,000lb 5th wheel.
Who else is having this problem?
Any solutions????
Thanks!
TJ
I'm looking to buy an 04 or 05 Dodge turbo most of the use will be in town
the towing will be in summer months pullling a 9,000 boat to the ocean which requires a travel over a steep mt pass ( alaska)
are you still enjoying your truck
what gear ratio should I get
and after mark products should I ad? a chip? raise the front end? (why would I do that)
akseagirl
I can eke out a little better when I drive like Grandma, and keep the cruise on 55. 17 is the best I've ever done. My truck has 45,000 miles on it, larger tires, and I keep the fuel filter changed religiously. I put a Bullydog on it and while it absolutely smoked, my leadfoot didn't help the economy ...it actually went down! So I didn't buy the bullydog.
Should I try another chip? What can I do? I love everything else about my truck...surely there's something I can do. The dealer says nothing's wrong, but admits it should do better.
Thanks for any advice...
Once I actually put it on paper it was around 2MPG pulling trailers. It definetly seems to help my MPG.
....I'm having big time difficulty in figuring out some of this good info.....
..is the Cummins (empty) really 25 MPG capable?
best, ez..
kcram - Pickups Host
..that is amazing to someone like me.
..I drive a VERY small diesel pickup..
..tks again, ez
I will be 95% on the highway, empty 90% of the time. so I am mostly interested in getting better mileage... can someone tell me the best thing to do?
I read somewhere about locking hubs, is that something that can only be done after-market? or can the factory do that?
And the chips... are there any that will not void my warranty? thanks!
Locking hubs - probably can be added at the factory for a substantial price. I would buy aftermarket and install them myself. A buddy of mine said it can easily be done with limited tools in about 2 hours per hub.
Warranty and Chips (Quadzilla)- it plugs into your exsisting wiring at your fuel rail. If you have to take your truck back for factory repairs;unplug the chips wiring harness and plug your factory connectors back in, remoave chip wiring harness and chip (takes about 10 minutes). The factory can not tell you ever had this chip on your truck. This chip only tricks your computer into giving more HP. It does not modify your factory settings. If that makes any since?
Locking hubs... are these like the red dial that came with my '93 toyota truck? where you have to get out and turn dial on the wheel? if so, how does that work with the factory wheels?
Chips... increased HP isnt as important as fuel economy to me, however if the chip means better fuel economy and a bonus of more HP thats fine with me. would you still recommend getting the quadzilla? thanks!
Quadzilla - yes I would still recommend this chip. I rode in a Ford 6.0 with a Quadzilla race chip yesterday and was very impressed! He can actually put his dually in 4wd and smoke all the tires. I know that I or few others would need to try this, but I did think it was impressive for a dually to be able to do this.
you provided some great info that many of us could benefit from. however, you failed to give us specific info on a number of things such as: the power-module on your rig, and overall the "wise mans" set-up for similar diesels. :confuse:
many of us understand the general guidelines here, but are totally confused about really successful diesel set-ups. so please ... spare us the incognito crap and give us specifics on your set-up and/or other recommendations. :shades:
in closing can anyone out there recommend a simple, and if possible, inexpensive set-up for 2000ish ford/dodge diesels? i want to maximize mileage, run vegetable oil and/or biodiesel and if possible increase hp.
thank you mucho mucho mucho
Testing lift pump pressure is a relatively easy task and one, which should be done periodically to assure that the lift pump is healthy.
Heath Diesel produces fuel pressure test gauge kits for the 6.5 diesel and these are listed below.
GM 6.5 Diesel
The GM 6.5 turbo-diesel engine found in the ’92-’00 truck, Suburban and step van is supplied by a frame-rail mounted electric lift pump. This pump is powered by a relay when the engine’s starter in engaged and by an oil pressure switch while the engine is running. It is designed to supply the fuel injection pump at a pressure of approximately 7 psi at idle. The more important fuel supply pressure reading, though, is that measured while the vehicle is being driven.
The Heath Diesel Power fuel pressure test gauge kit for these 6.5 vehicles is connected to the fuel filter drain cock which is located near the thermostat housing at the front of the engine. The drain cock features an outlet nipple onto which a drain tube is installed. The HDP Fuel Pressure Test Gauge (Part #HDP1456), features a specially sized hose, which is slipped onto the nipple of the drain cock after the drain hose is removed.
The HDP test gauge is taped onto the exterior surface of the windshield for viewing while the vehicle. While driving, fuel pressure should not go below 2 psi and should, more ideally, be in the range of 2.5-3 psi.
Heath Diesel Power supplies a Heavy-Duty Version of the Factory Electric Lift Pump (Part #HDP1300). Heath Diesel Power also supplies the relay and oil pressure switches used in these vehicles here.
Feel free to contact Heath Diesel Power with any questions you may have regarding issues you are experiencing with your vehicle. We are always happy to help.
- Bill Heath
They said the chip caused the engine to blow, and Ford will not honor the warranty.
Ford's current computer isn't smart enough to know if/when a chip was installed, once it's been removed. The tech told me that Ford is changing their software to recognize and record a change to the program.
What's really funny, is that the dealership sells "Chips and Programmers" in their parts department!!!
TJ
So lets have it. End all be all best chip for my truck. Please
I have heard from people who go to Europe they have vans, suv's ect over there with diesel, but do not have connections to purchase overseas.
Any suggestions welcome.
Pkr Bkr
Most people wonder why there are people with the same EXACT truck get better or worse fuel mileage than they do. The biggest variable in current diesels is injector build quality. The injectors are called good if the fit in a 20-30% range. The variable depends on the make of truck. If you get a truck with 6 or 8 better quality injectors your truck will have more power and get better fuel mileage than the person with the lower percentage of quality injectors. Most aftermarket performance injectors are simply a balanced, calibrated set. Companies work the injector to get 100% efficiency. They yield better fuel mileage and more power. My experience is the Duramax has the most consistent mileage and power. The Dodge is 2nd but, seems to vary. The pre "600" Dodges yield better fuel mileage. The 03-04.5 Fords were all over the map. I have seen people get 11mpg loaded or empty and others get 15 pulling with their 6.0. I have a friend with an 03 6.0 that gets 12mpg empty and loaded. I find that really weird. Word is that Ford has fixed most of their injector issues in their 05-06 models. The fuel changes over the most recent years has magnified the fuel economy variables even more. I am by no means an expert but, have done quite a bit of research.
Hope this helps,
one4speed
And drive 65 MPH(vig enforced here) or less...I have a TRD Prepped Lexus GS 400 capable of 160MPH IF I want to drive fast,w/ the the brakes, handling, etc...These are trucks, and most peoples daily driver/fun toy hauler. I did NOT know about injector variability....mine seems to run good.
I also wonder IF all these people are switching to BIGGER tires, then throwing the MPG off...almost every Diesel around here has big tires, but how many have the proper re-programmer to adjust the size???I'll venture to say this plays a bigger role IMHO then any other single variable out there, IMHO, Franko
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Put her on cruise and let it go.
I own a 2004 2500 HD Duramax Diesel with an Edge products (Juice) chip. Here is what I know about the truck that I thought may be causing some of the problems especially with the poor fuel economy: It has no catalytic converter, and has stainless exhaust from the turbo back. It is chipped as mentioned above. I am getting horrible fuel economy. I need help/suggestions desperately.
Here are some things that lead me to believe there is a wiring problem.
1) The remote (for unlocking/locking doors) – Remote 1 actually sets for driver 2 settings. Remote 2 actually sets for driver 1 settings. Unlock button of remote 1 actually locks the doors instead of unlocking. The mirror memory does not hold setting 98% of the time. After truck has been off and then restarted (regardless of amount of time – 5 mins. or for hours), mirrors move (usually down and in) from set memory position.
2) Edge Products (The Juice) computer chip – When truck is not running (even after 24 hour period), the exhaust gas temperature and engine temperature remain high. Example: when only the accessory is turned on (just enough to operate radio, windows, the Edge display unit, etc.) the exhaust gas temp. reading always displays in the high one hundreds (again, even after truck is not running for 1 to 48 hours – it doesn’t matter). This reading (EGT), jumps or fluxuates from 3 to 5 degrees up or down. The engine temp. reading (again after truck has been off for a lengthy amount of time) always displays a high number. Usually close to a hundred degrees or so. I would believe that when engine has not been running for many hours, that these displays should show close to, if not “0”. When engine is off, the “boost” and “load” displays on the Edge readout show “0” as they should.
3) 75 to 80% of the time, when truck is turned over and started, the “message center” display says, “battery not charging.” Although I have never had a battery related problem or any indication that battery(s) have or are losing charge.
4) Gas mileage is absolutely horrible. Average city mileage is 11 to 12 per gallon and highway average is 14 to 16 per gallon. This is driving the truck very light. Basically “babying” it and not nailing the pedal. I have tried various settings on the Edge chip display and have noticed very, very little if no difference. Setting 1 on the Edge is supposed to be a “mileage” setting and actually seems to be the worst.
I have thoroughly cleaned the air filter (which is an aftermarket “Tru-Flow” intake and filter). Changed the fuel filter. Pulled terminals were Edge wires lead into a re-plugged them in with the idea that this would “reset” the chip. Also attempted to “reset” everything by disconnecting the battery(s), waiting a period of time, and then reconnecting battery(s).
Regardless, I am pretty sure this shows that there is a wiring problem somewhere along the way. I am unsure how to go from here. Any and ALL suggestions again, will be greatly appreciated. Someone out there must have an answer.
Thank you.
I'm seeing 5-7 mpg.
Lot's of extra get up and go.
2005 Dodge Ram SLT 4 Door 4x4 5.9 Diesel 20K miles