Silverado 3/4 Ton (Only), 4 Door - Ext. Cab
All the four door comments have mostly been on the
1/2 ton models in the other topics. Lets make
this one for 3/4 ton 4-door Ext. Cab LB or SB Four
Wheel drive only???
Fact-GM Factory Engineers admitted when cornered
at the Feb. '99 Daytona 500 Display that the 1/2
ton 3 door cab design would not pass "4-door
Distortion Test". (Any one wonder why so many 1/2
ton 3-drs having "Vibration" Problems?)
Fact- GM "Marketing" did not plan introduction of
any 4-door models until '03. (Looks like they
didn't learn any thing from Ford's one year 3-door
program - not to mention they both put the 3rd dr.
on the wrong side.)
Fact-All current 1/2 ton 4th door units are using
the 3/4 ton cab design. (ANY WONDER WHY THEY CAN'T
GET ANY 3/4 TON UNITS INTO PRODUCTION??)
Fact- GM dealers are currently taking 3/4 ton
4-door ext. cab orders- BUT can not obtain build
dates.
Fact- When they do START delivery - it will be so
close to '01 Model Time, why order the '00 year
model??
Maybe GM will get a little smarter on the '01's
and put in a REASONALBE size gas tank like Ford and
Dodge. OR MAYBE even a TRIP COMPUTER like Dodge
already has-- $35,000 and the GAS TANK is only 25
Gallons - HOW STUPID!!!
RUMOR has it (Dealer heard also) that All the '01
Models will have "Molded Plastic" outer shell BOX
like the Sport Box has today. Wouldn't that be
worth waiting for and also perhaps not have the
LEMONS the '99 3-dr. 1/2 ton models have been --
and NO MORE Rusted-out Fender Wheel openings???
1/2 ton models in the other topics. Lets make
this one for 3/4 ton 4-door Ext. Cab LB or SB Four
Wheel drive only???
Fact-GM Factory Engineers admitted when cornered
at the Feb. '99 Daytona 500 Display that the 1/2
ton 3 door cab design would not pass "4-door
Distortion Test". (Any one wonder why so many 1/2
ton 3-drs having "Vibration" Problems?)
Fact- GM "Marketing" did not plan introduction of
any 4-door models until '03. (Looks like they
didn't learn any thing from Ford's one year 3-door
program - not to mention they both put the 3rd dr.
on the wrong side.)
Fact-All current 1/2 ton 4th door units are using
the 3/4 ton cab design. (ANY WONDER WHY THEY CAN'T
GET ANY 3/4 TON UNITS INTO PRODUCTION??)
Fact- GM dealers are currently taking 3/4 ton
4-door ext. cab orders- BUT can not obtain build
dates.
Fact- When they do START delivery - it will be so
close to '01 Model Time, why order the '00 year
model??
Maybe GM will get a little smarter on the '01's
and put in a REASONALBE size gas tank like Ford and
Dodge. OR MAYBE even a TRIP COMPUTER like Dodge
already has-- $35,000 and the GAS TANK is only 25
Gallons - HOW STUPID!!!
RUMOR has it (Dealer heard also) that All the '01
Models will have "Molded Plastic" outer shell BOX
like the Sport Box has today. Wouldn't that be
worth waiting for and also perhaps not have the
LEMONS the '99 3-dr. 1/2 ton models have been --
and NO MORE Rusted-out Fender Wheel openings???
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Long box trucks have 34 gallon tanks....but yeah..I do wish it had a 34 in a short box....but it's not worth crying about.
- Tim
Paul
Anybody got any current update on this?
There are no 3 doors anymore.
As to when they actually make a 2500 4 door?
maybe by the end of the 2000 model year.
- Tim
Bob
If some people do have order numbers it really doesn't mean a damn thing. GM will do that just to make you happy. I had an order number also for a 2500 Last May...and it got cancelled and delayed to a 2000 model.
Sorry I can't give you more info that's exact.
- Tim
Best of luck,
Huntman
I want to get an 3/4 ton LT and need it to pull a 5th wheel and like the 4-door for taking our grand children with us.
I think the 3-door was a stupid decision by GM when Ford and Dodge was already on the market with their 4-door.
I currently have a Ford F150 4x4 std cab but won't consider the F250 4x4 because the thing sets so high it's hard to get into and you can't tow the 5th wheel in lever configuration. Ford offers what they call a lowering package which only lowers the rear end thus they look like their going up a mountain on lever ground. Also the V10 is a known gas hog and the Chev 6.0 develops more HP. Why do I want two estra cylinders slaping up and down??
GM did some good things with rear seat comfort in the new silverado but Marketing forced it into production before Engineering had all the "bugs" worked out.
LL
Just them 1500's.
- Tim
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GM CAN KISS MY A**
ALL Silverados are 4 door now. The extra cost of about $350 is just added into the base price.
Royb3,
Windshield molding??.....outside?..
My console meets up perfectly.
And even with a bug guard....the wind noise is none at 80 MPH down the freeway everyday.
At 80 it is as smooth as glass.
You seem to be the only 3/4 owner I have heard of having problems....period.
Myself and other 3/4 owners here have not had any problems as you have mentioned.
I believe you....but your problem does not reflect the entire GM line.
Good luck
- Tim
Let us know where it was built and when?
What part of the country was delivery and when?
Are there any other items that also gave you problems?
Thanks - LLB
First of all , My truck is a y2k , it's the 3 door model , it is 2 wheel drive with HD suspension and trailer towing package , 4sp. HD automatic trans.
I live in Maryland and I special ordered the vehicle. It came with a build spec sheet that says it was built in Fort Wayne but the window sticker says final assembly in Roanoke ,IN. Another piece of paper says final assembly was in Fort Wayne . I guess the Fort Waynes have it 2 to 1. That build spec. sheet is dated 8/30/99 . The title is dated 9/17/99 . If I remember correctly It took almost 12 weeks to get the truck after I ordered it. So everything considered , It's what's know as an EARLY production y2k .
The only thing that was done to my truck for the vibration problem , other than replacing all those tires , that didn't meet GM specs according to this new machine called a Roadforce balancer. I'm told this machine puts some preset force on the tire to simulate being on the road while it spins it so you can balance it . Anyway , other than that , all they did was put some kind of gizmo on the truck that measures vibrations (GM told them to do this) and according to this vibration gizmo GM told them the truck was within GM specs. and not to do anymore to the truck to try to correct it.
Lets see ,, other problems ??? Certainly ..
1. The trans has a hell of a first to second gear , break yer neck , shift when it's cold .(intermittant)
2. There is some kind of howling noise that sounds like it's in the exhaust at certain rpm under light load . (repair ticket says "normal" for that also)
3. I am now starting to notice a ticking noise in the engine when it's (the engine) cold.
4. The wife called me today cause the service engine lite came on while she was driving home. (all guages read normal)
Hey , all this , (and I'm sure that I am forgetting something) and only 8000 miles. Spells quality to me !! Buy the way, none of these mechanical problems were evident til I got some miles on the truck . Couple a thousand if memory serves me.
I really should have my head examined for saying this but I really did like this truck.
The price was right , you can't find the options you get in this truck in any other truck. Runs like a bat outta hell . handles great , rides great , (except for the free massage) looks good , tows my 26 foot travel trailer like it ain't even there , stops on a dime (trailer and all).
Whadda ya gonna do. If it's gonna fall apart , don't matter how much I like it , I gotta get out.
Spec-ed out the Ford 250 SD Lariat today . With the v10, auto trans, 373 rear.MUCH better HP, Torque , weight and towing specs . Yeah , I know , 2 more cyls.
Gettin it for just about the same price as the GM.
Well , hope I covered it all for ya. Sorry I didn't get back to ya sooner but I been busy reading up on the Fords . Funny thing , hard to find postings about F250 Super Dutys . Plenty of Silverado postings to read Though . HMMMMMMM
The tick and hard shift when cold are normal. All do that. If you take it easy and don't hammer it when first cold...it won't shift so hard. It's designed to stay in gear longer to make then engine heat up faster. Is the noise that you say exhaust a "whir" kind of noise also when cold? That is normal also.
Aside from the vibration...sounds like you have no problem. I have the same truck 2000 2500 LT HD Suspension....built first week of August (3rd week of production) and delivered Aug 13th. So mine is earlier than yours. So the "early" production excuse can't be used here.
It sounds like you just won't be happy until you have a Ford and just don't seem to know your new Chevy that well?
Just my observation..
Good Luck!
- Tim
You may hear more "buzz" due to a new model being out.
- Tim
I really wish that GM had stepped up and done the right thing long ago . I really do like the truck but I can't deal with the attitude/quality.
Buy the way , that whiplash shift problem that I have is under "light" acceleration . Low rpm.
Anyway , me and my 30 thousand dollar vibrator will just ride off into the sunset and quietly part. Thank god it's almost over.
Glad your happy and have no problems. Wish I was.
It's the way cars are now days.
Good Luck
- Tim
So has anybody gotten a real order number,
confirmation, TPW or anything real regarding 3/4
ton 4 doors being in production yet
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have my TPW..it's due to be built this week...GM's computers are down, so don't know if it happened. They told me it was switched to a four door, and that is all I have heard yet.
Doris
I've been waiting since the '99s came out for GM to catch-up with innovators like Dodge (w/the ext.cab 4-dr etc.--even though I would not buy one of their PU's)to get this new design RIGHT. Yes, I am waiting to buy '01 model in hopes that all these reported vibration and transmission PROBLEMS with the '99s and '00s get fixed, but if they do-it will be only because THEIR customer DEMAND a QUALITY PRODUCT or they will switch brands as you intend to do.
Big Companys sometimes forget how to listen. I've seen it reported that GM's truck and suv sales are down over 30% so (The reason by the way they put out the recent $500 coupons-Ford did the same thing also) no matter which brand any of us favor - They have to produce what their customers demand and if that means some have to switch brands to get their attention - SO BE IT.
Thanks Again
LLB
Mine is 2wd, ext. cab, Summit White, 6.0l, 3.73 axle, HD susp., tow package, tow hooks, camper mirrors, deep tint glass and fog lamps.
By the way, good news to all of those of us who are waiting. Spoke to my dealer again today - he confirmed in a meeting late yesterday with Houston area Chevrolet sales rep that 2500 extended cabs with 4th door finally started production Monday of this week, and that all extended cabs will now be 4 door from here on.
Now, if my dealer could just get an allocation for mine... Dealer's general manager and owner are meeting next week with regional sales people to try to get some.
Sounds like you got everything but the outdoor
shower.
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The new trailer (Holiday Rambler) comes with an outdoor shower, by the way, so I didn't have to order that on the truck!.
6 months and almost 11,000 miles...not any problems.
Mileage with 4:10's dry...about 12-13MPG
Very good power on the highway.
Very few people...(actually only one here) have had problems with the 2500.
It's just a better riding truck also...period.
Good Luck
- Tim
following for about 1 month. Thought I would give
everyone some good news. The 4dr 2500's are now at
some dealers, Stevinson Chevy in Denver, CO has not 1 but 4 yes 4 2500 4dr's on the lot that have not been sold yet (as of Fri 2/25). They even have 3 or 4 more on order. One of them is mine, 2500 4dr 4wd LS everything except leather. This is very good news for those of us waiting a long time for this.
truck.
Thanks - llb
(By the way, my truck was special ordered too, so I am not driving royb3's returned truck by the luck of the draw)
I too have seen the 4 doors at a dealership, 4 of them 2500's. All longbed 4x4.
I have one on order,a shortbed, see what happens.
I've been told from another post that the 2500 light duty will still have a 300HP 6.0L in 2001.
Only the 2500 HD and 3500 will have the 325HP in 2001.
Anyone else heard this?
I would order what you want if you are not in a hurry.
The LD is an appropriate name....even though it has 8 lugs...it's still 7200GVW. Yeah that's more than a 1500...but farr from an 8600 HD.
Good Luck
- Tim
All 2500 4WD are 6.0 and 8600.
- Tim
Keith M
Is this a case that GM can't produce sufficient new style units and has reverted back to previous design and calling them 2000 Models???
Are there Ext. Cab "HD's" with the new Silverado design showing up??
The Chicago Auto Show had 2001 2500 "HD" Silverado (New Cab, Grill etc.) model with 325 hp 6.0 engine so wonder why "HD's" here are old style?
llb
I like the flair that is designed in as part of the body fendor and think generally things that get added on as an AFTER thought look CHEEP.
(Also it creats a place for salt and dirt to collect over time which will eventually cause major rust problems.)
So! IS THERE ANYONE ELSE out their that feels like I do and want them OFF????
I know they are held on by the plastic plugs so should not be much problem to remove them, especially if done right away when it comes into the dealer or first thing when you drive it home.
BUT -- Are there any marks left in the new paint while truck is in shippment AFTER they are removed ?????????????????????
(I assume the metal underneath is finished just like the 1500's without the STUPID flairs.
THANKS - LLB
first redesign the 1/2ton and light duty 3/4,
so the C/K series in 3/4 heavy duty and 1 ton is still being produced until this fall when the new heavier trucks are out on the market
An unlimited supply of Mis-information.
- Tim
Incidently, the transmission's shift points are delayed when the engine is cold to "speed up" reaching operating temperature -- on a cold morning it takes a mile or two to reach operating temperature ...
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