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  • dudleyrdudleyr Member Posts: 3,469
    M1 5w-30 would help mpg a smidge. Have you thought about using that? I know my 1990 Integra specifies 5w-30. 0w-30 would help another smidge.
  • marcwdmarcwd Member Posts: 8
    Thanks to all for comments about my mileage.

    I assume that a Scangauge could quickly confirm the warm-up time needed to get peak efficiency. I thought now during the summer months that getting the engine up to a temperature for good efficiency happens quite quickly, particularly at highway speeds. My commute is close to 30 miles each way and I'm usually on the highway within minutes of starting out.

    Yes, too bad that the MT isn't geared taller. At least the difference with the AT isn't so great as to show up in the highway EPA numbers like on the Civic.

    Dudley, I do happen to be planning a drive up to Maine shortly, but not for lobster. I don't care for the things.
  • blufz1blufz1 Member Posts: 2,045
    Come on, Dudley! Quit tellin' em they are going to get 40 mpg.....and take those bicycle tires off!
  • dudleyrdudleyr Member Posts: 3,469
    marcwd - your 36 or so mpg sounds about right given the conditions. Even a few minutes every morning of non highway will bring the average down. If I go on a long trip I will usually do a mile or 2 of intown driving and then fill up right before I leave. It will still take several hundred miles before the "daily" mpg reaches the "tank" mpg.

    blufz - I think you are due for a nice leisurely road trip to get in touch with your inner hypermiler. ;) Let us know how much over 40 you get. :shades:
  • blufz1blufz1 Member Posts: 2,045
    Can't even approach 40 mpg. I have and 02 V6 exl and a note from my mother!
  • thegraduatethegraduate Member Posts: 9,731
    Hello from Gulf Shores, Alabama (aka The "Redneck Riviera").

    My family rode with me to Gulf Shores from Birmingham. Had some traffic (we plodded along through Birmingham instead of hopping right on the interstate). Used A/C the entire time, and averaged about 75 MPH (not consistent though, my max speed according to my Garmin Streetpilot c330 was 85MPH). When filling up, after 263.9 miles, the car took 7.4 gallons, which equated to about 35.7 MPG.

    Conditions:

    3 people in car (who weigh about 600 lbs combined), plus their luggage for 8 days (the trunk was full). 85 degrees. 100% oil life.
  • dudleyrdudleyr Member Posts: 3,469
    Can't even approach 40 mpg. I have and 02 V6 exl and a note from my mother!

    Forgot about the V-6 part. Now I remember - it is for the boat. Not gonna get near 40 with a boat in tow. ;)
  • blufz1blufz1 Member Posts: 2,045
    Right. I've usually got my little boat in tow. The 02's are only 4 speeds as you know. Honda reworked the top end of the engine for more power and efficiency in '03. I really believe mine is only capable of 28-29 at 50-60. 60 is 2000 rpms on my car.
  • toyoman1toyoman1 Member Posts: 52
    Hey my accord is getting really bad mileage. I filled up with 14.4 gallons and drove 307.2 miles. My mileage of 21.3 MPG doesn't strike me as good at all. Considering most of it was highway driving. I do drive usually anywhere from 80-100 mph when going to work. I work at a hospital so i'm allowed... Does this seem low to anyone else?
  • thegraduatethegraduate Member Posts: 9,731
    Driving at triple digit speeds, I'm surprised you're getting mileage as high as 21 MPG.

    Doesn't seem low at all to me.
  • elroy5elroy5 Member Posts: 3,735
    Doesn't matter that you're on a highway, if you are constantly speeding up, slowing down, and going 100mph. Your mileage will obviously not be as good as if you went a constant 65mph the entire time. The only way to get around 30mpg with a V6 is to drive conservatively. You can get close to 40mpg with the 4cyl, if you really try. I don't even think about mileage when I'm driving. Takes all the fun out of it, for me anyway.
  • kiawahkiawah Member Posts: 3,666
    If you really legitimately HAVE to drive at that speed all the time, then I personally wouldn't be worried about my mileage, I'd be getting a car with superior safety features. It's not a matter of IF you are going to be in a serious accident, it's just a matter of time.

    Good luck.
  • jaxs1jaxs1 Member Posts: 2,697
    It is not an ambulance. He does not have to drive that fast and he will get a ticket or reckless driving arrest just like anyone else. Even ambulances do not drive 100mph.
  • thegraduatethegraduate Member Posts: 9,731
    Isn't the max speed for emergency vehicles (other than police) supposed to be Speed Limit + 10 MPH? Seems like I've heard that, at least as Alabama law. That would mean 80 MPH, tops, in this state.
  • dudleyrdudleyr Member Posts: 3,469
    100 mph is just not conducive to good mpg especially with the V-6 with the 4 speed automatic. 21 mpg sounds good. What is this being compared to - did a past vehicle do better. We need some reference point to know if it is good or bad.

    I just got back from a 520 mile trip (twice this month - ugh). Took the speed up a little to 67 mph on cruise control. Mpg for the entire trip was 38.3. The A/C was on the whole time - it was 108 degrees yesterday, so no messing around without the A/C. Compared to my trip last week, I added A/C and 7 mph and I dropped 5.5 mpg.

    2007 SE I4 MT

    I need to go again in two weeks - may try another speed. I think I will also do a few runs on a flat stretch at different speeds to see what that does. Kinda curious about mpg at 100 mph now - don't think I will take it that far though.
  • blufz1blufz1 Member Posts: 2,045
    There ain't no mystery here. Slower in top gear is always more MPG than faster in top gear..
  • stevecebustevecebu Member Posts: 493
    It is not an ambulance. He does not have to drive that fast and he will get a ticket or reckless driving arrest just like anyone else. Even ambulances do not drive 100mph.

    If he works at a hospital and say he works in something like triage and a cop is wounded, yeah I think if he helps out they won't bother him after that. I got busted driving 75mph in a 25mph The entire town is 25mph and the road is as straight as a dragstrip and at almost 3am I had to rush my previous wife to the hospital her water broke early due to complications. It was a serious thing that I won't get into here but not a single other car on the road. First time a cop ever pointed a gun at me for speeding and in front of the hospital emergency room to boot.
    She had to go in alone and finally the cop put away the gun and kept going on and on and I told him, you know what? write me a ticket but I'm going in with my wife and I walked into the hospital. turns out they needed a lot of emergency stuff just to keep her alive, another hour and she would have died. They stabilized her and she had to be taken over 2 hours away by ambulance as she was in rough shape and they weren't equipped to deal with it. The cop never did write me up that ticket but in my eyes at 3am under those circumstances and considering that entire town is a huge speed trap I'd have fought the ticket.
    Oh and for the record during the day 35-40mph would be safe on that road but not faster because of traffic and stores, it's basically a long strip of stores that all close about 9pm. Nothing is open after 10pm, at least not back then. During the day no way would I have gone that fast but at 3am under dire circumstances yes I would and I'd do it again under similar circumstances.
    This from the same town that tried to give me a ticket for going 25mph in a school zone in july at 2am on a sunday! because the automatic lights were flashing.
    I really appreciate where I live now, no speed limits, no cops outside the dense areas where you can't speed anyway because of all the traffic. No traffic lights, or patrol cars and somehow most people survive somehow without speed cameras and the like.
  • jaxs1jaxs1 Member Posts: 2,697
    It doesn't matter if he works at a hospital. The treatment of patients does not revolve around this one person and there is no legal speed law exemption for hospital employees whether it is a doctor.
    You can just pay the ticket if you feel like it's worth it.
  • ezshift5ezshift5 Member Posts: 858
    ..from my logbook.

    July 2007 (6/25/07 - 7/25/07) 87 octane.....

    1324 miles on 48.175 gallons. 27.48 MPG.

    5 tank-ups. Range 25.7 (hi a/c use) to 29.6 (Interstate use)

    2005 AV6 6M coupe;36k;dino;32F/30R. (..ez sends..)
  • dudleyrdudleyr Member Posts: 3,469
    Changed my oil yesterday - 12,650 miles so far.

    Here are some numbers to date.

    Overal average has slowly creeped up to 33.5 mpg (377.5 gallons 12653 miles)

    I have been doing a rolling average of my most recent 10 tanks (miles driven for last 10 tanks divided by gallons used for last 10 tanks) This gives me a nice way to show trends and level out single tank inconsistancies. Below is a list of these rolling averages. There is a definate trend towards better mpg as the vehicle breaks in. It will probably go down again with the approach of winter with a small spike up for fall when it is cool enough for no a/c, but warm enough for good mpg.

    The 30.7 is the average of my first 10 tanks and each subsequent number is the average for the most recent 10 tanks at the time.

    30.7, 30.7, 29.8, 31.2, 31.5, 31.7, 31.3, 32.0 32.3, 33.0, 33.4, 33.7, 34.3, 33.8, 34.0, 34.3, 34.2, 34.6, 34.5, 35.4, 34.9, 35.1, 34.4, 34.4, 34.2, 34.6, 35.8

    So far my best tank was 41.5 calculated (41.4 scangauge). This was 556 miles on 13.41 gallons. Within that tank was a 510 mile stretch of 43.8 mpg (60 mph). The rest was 46 miles of stop and go in town which brought down the number to 41.5 mpg.

    Happy with the numbers, of course I still want more - diesel Accord soon I hope.

    2007 I4 MT
  • gforce23gforce23 Member Posts: 12
    I've been averaging close to 25.5MPG in my EX I4 .. 1250 miles so far though I must admit the last 300 have been quite spirited. :)
  • thegraduatethegraduate Member Posts: 9,731
    I'm assuming this is more city than highway?

    If so, you are doing pretty good if you drive in a "spirited" fashion, not "pathetic" at all. :)

    Automatic, or manual?
  • user777user777 Member Posts: 3,341
    yeah, not bad. should continue to improve through 4K or so.

    fill it. take it on the HWY for a few good 250-300Mi trips at 65 steady. compute the fuel economy the manual way. average the results.

    you may be right in the pipe.
  • gforce23gforce23 Member Posts: 12
    Haha .. you'd be surprised to know it's 60:40 (highway/city).
    Btw, can someone drive an auto in a spirited manner? ;) Manual all the way! :)
  • gforce23gforce23 Member Posts: 12
    I've tried driving at 65 out here (ATL) but every time I go below 75, I start dreaming of getting rear ended. :D
    But yeah, with a daily average commute speed of 75-80mph and the A/C turned on full blast, 25MPG seems pretty good for an I4.
  • 24482448 Member Posts: 4
    Recently drove about 800 miles from WI to MI and back. All highways but included some stop and go traffic in Chicago construction areas on I-294 Tri-State tollway. We got 30.4 MPG driving 70-85 mph with air on. We had only 534 miles on the car when we left on this trip.
  • thegraduatethegraduate Member Posts: 9,731
    Haha .. you'd be surprised to know it's 60:40 (highway/city).
    Btw, can someone drive an auto in a spirited manner? Manual all the way!


    Atlanta highway isn't "highway" as many people know it. I live in Birmingham and have been in ATL traffic several times. Its 80+ MPH or dead, with lots of speeding up and slowing down.
  • tankbeanstankbeans Member Posts: 585
    Hello all-

    Thought I'd update. I just traded in my 95 Accord EX I4 which was averaging 23 mpg, short trips, mostly in town, not a lot of freeway, for a 2003 Accord LX coupe I4. I just did my first mileage calculation and came up with 26.1. That wasn't very accurate because it was ranging two tanks. I had to add a little before I could fill it completely.
  • thegraduatethegraduate Member Posts: 9,731
    Hey there beans,

    I've got a '96 LX Accord which averages 27 MPG, and a 2006 Accord EX that averages 29 MPG.

    The new cars have higher EPA ratings too, so this seems right.

    I love the extra power AND economy that comes with the new Accords over my old one (my LX is only 130 hp - your EX at least had VTEC w/145 hp!).
  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,461
    So I had some highway. Ran up to Queens (NY) from down by philly, so spent some time stuck in traffic.

    Anyway, overall tank was 31+. backing out the around town miles at my normal +/- 25mpg, that leaves the trip part at ~35. Not too shabby, given the conditions.

    A bit of creeping in the parking lot, than stop and go getting out of the city. About 200 real highway miles, ranging from about 67-75 usually, occassionally creeping a bit faster. Lots of "smokies" so that kept the speed down.

    SO, IMO, 35 ain't bad for a blast up the NJ turnpike and into NYC.

    2005 EX-L 5 speed 4 cyl, 2 people, air on most of the way.

    I'm starting to wonder if I took a Graduate style trip if I couldn't sneak up on 40 mpg after all!

    2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.

  • thegraduatethegraduate Member Posts: 9,731
    I'm sure you could!

    In fact, I am heading for the beach Friday with a guy friend of mine, and will have to go 70 MPH. There is a major crackdown on speed this week, and troopers are pulling no punches in Alabama, ticketing people over for 1 MPH over, not using a signal when changing lanes, and tailgating, things that typically go without reprimand.

    Here's the story, on our local affiliate NBC 13.

    Maybe, at 70 MPH, I'll get back to 40 MPG? The only hindrances will be weight (my buddy is a BIG guy) and temperature. Our highs have been around 103-105 degrees in central Alabama, surpassing record highs day after day.

    So, with 70 MPH, 105 degrees, and 450 pounds on board, I'm hoping for at least 37 MPG.
  • jsmith1975jsmith1975 Member Posts: 22
    I just picked my new Accord SE, with automatic transmission, yesterday in Chicago. I flew in from Kansas City because of the LARGE price difference between there and KC.

    The car had 15 miles on it when I picked it up. I was able to make it back non-stop on one tank. I topped the tank off before I left to get an accurate mpg reading as it was not quite full. A/C was on 100% of the time. I tried to keep the speed varied between 60 mph and 75 mph, changing it up every 20 miles or so for the break in.

    Stats:
    505 miles
    14.02 gallons
    Average speed 67 MPH (calculated by GPS)
    85% Interstate / 15% State 2-lane Highway
    36 MPG
  • tankbeanstankbeans Member Posts: 585
    :) My old car was fun, but I think it was time to get something a little newer. I was still paying for the old car and by the time I would have been done paying it would have been 16 years old and at that point I don't care what it is a car won't be worth much.

    I have a question that I would guess somebody might know. Do the 2003 LX I4 have 5 gears or 4. I read the manual and it said that it did. Then I looked on some web sites and they said the 5 speed auto was optional. It does seem to have one more shift going.

    Just curious. I do notice that it revs lower about 2500 at 80 than my old car did about 3000. :)
  • thegraduatethegraduate Member Posts: 9,731
    All current generation automatic-equipped Accords (2003-current) have 5-speed automatics. Maybe that site meant that the "automatic" was optional, meaning over a manual transmission.

    You'll notice on the highway that you can call for either one downshift OR two, depending on how hard you hit the gas. Makes things easier than the big jerky 4-3 downshift of our '95/'96 Accords at 75 MPH.

    The automatic Accord 4-cylinder runs 1,000 RPM per 30 MPH in fifth gear, so at 75 MPH you are at 2,500 RPM.
  • tankbeanstankbeans Member Posts: 585
    Thank you again. I'm still learning about these things. Judging from some of your posts I'd say we are about the same age and any little bit helps right? Don't want to be a mechanic or anything just want to be able to go into one and not sound like a complete idiot.
  • thegraduatethegraduate Member Posts: 9,731
    Well, I turn 20 in 10 days, so I don't know how close in age that makes us. I've learned an awful lot from these forums in the past two years, I'd guess you will too!
  • tankbeanstankbeans Member Posts: 585
    I'll be 20 in about 7 months. Not that it makes that much difference, but I do know that sometimes younger people have a different perspective on things.
  • thegraduatethegraduate Member Posts: 9,731
    Definitely. For one, we are less likely to have been burned by a certain car, or had lots of years with any one car. Me? I've had my '96 LX for 5 years now and I still love it!
  • tankbeanstankbeans Member Posts: 585
    Unfortunately I was never able to find a car that wanted to live much more than about 7 months. I went through 2 fords and a buick before landed my accord. The first ford decided it wanted to throw a starter it my apartment parking lot in the middle of winter, my 2 ford decided that the transmission wasn't worthy and died when my brother had it, and my buick didn't like it's doors and they never opened and then it killed its exhaust. All of these were 93 and older, not worth fixing.
  • thegraduatethegraduate Member Posts: 9,731
    Well, when my folks gave me my 06 Accord (which was my gratification for a scholarship, according to them), I planned to just drive the '96 until it became too expensive to keep running. It won't quit though! About $300 a year is all it takes in the way of repairs (one per year), so I have trouble getting rid of it, since it is worth more to me than it would be if I sold it...

    Unless you know someone wanting to pay $10k for a car with 175k miles ;) LOL
  • boomdizzleboomdizzle Member Posts: 1
    Hi All,

    I bought a used 97 Accord LX (non VTEC) a year ago and am not too happy with the mileage. I consistently get a mileage of 23-24 mpg in mixed driving - mostly on short trips on the highway though (10-15 miles). Obviously, something is off. Any suggestions on what I can try? I have changed the PCV valve, used fuel injector cleaner and used synthetic enginer oil (Pennzoil) to no avail.

    One other thing, the car appears sluggish and seems to lack power. Any suggestions on what to try are greatly welcomed.

    I know the car should do better than this. I owned a 82 accord a while back and that used to give me 32-33 mpg. So something is definitely amiss here.
  • dudleyrdudleyr Member Posts: 3,469
    How many miles on the car? Did you check the spark plugs or the air filter? What is the tire pressure? Is it a stick or an automatic? How fast do you drive?

    Did you drive your '82 as fast (the speed limit may have been lower then)? Remember the '82 had a 1.8 liter engine. Was the '82 a stick or an automatic?

    These are all factors - the more info the better.
  • tankbeanstankbeans Member Posts: 585
    I had a 95 Accord EX with the VTEC but otherwise the same engine. I averaged about 23 miles mixed driving. I was never able to really wind out and take a nice long drive. The times my brother had it he went for 150 straight freeway one way and got about 30mpg. I'd say that there isn't anything wrong, but have you checked the air filter?

    Also, it seems on par with the revised EPA estimates. If you go to www.fueleconomy.gov you should be able to get a little more information about what you should be expecting.

    At first I thought that I was getting sub-par mileage but then I went out there and I found that my mileage was about average.

    Before this becomes too long winded, how often do you use A/C in your car and also I think the LX came in a V6. Do you have a V6 or an I4?

    I can guarantee that you will get a lot of the same questions from everybody out here. These were the questions that I always got whenever I asked a question regarding mileage.

    Good luck and have fun with your car.
  • blufz1blufz1 Member Posts: 2,045
    That mileage is within the realm of "normal." Don't worry too much about it.
  • lambulambu Member Posts: 16
    I filled up the gas tank for the first time and I got 25.7 mpg (411 miles/16 gallons) in the mixed driving. I hope it only gets better...
  • ezshift5ezshift5 Member Posts: 858
    ...during a heat wave. Las Vegas hit about 110F. The 6M coupe got 32.5 state capital to Burbank.

    Burbank to LV calculated 36.2.......even with a/c from Baker eastward.

    ...and this is the V-6.

    best, ez..
  • donswartzdonswartz Member Posts: 28
    I have an 07 Accord 4 cyl that has just over 1000 miles on it. I have been tracking the MPG and have been getting around 22-25 MPG. 22 is city driving and 25 is highway. I had an 91 accord and it got 29 MPG. And we have a 97 that gets 27-29 MPG. I just don't know why my 07 is getting so poor of MPG. Any help?
  • jaxs1jaxs1 Member Posts: 2,697
    Don't start calculating mileage when it's brand new. It only has 1000 miles. The mileage is always at the worst for the first several thousand miles.
    Wait 10,000 miles.
  • tallman1tallman1 Member Posts: 1,874
    I got over 30 mpg right away in my 06 EX-L with manual I4. Over 50% was highway but I've still never had a tank go below 29, even after 30,000 miles. It is true that your mileage will get better over time.... usually after the break in period according to most posts here.

    My guess is that you have a lot of short trips and that the engine isn't fully warmed up. Either that or you have a pretty heavy foot. If you are driving at a fairly moderate speed, even with the AC, you should be getting way above 25 on the highway.

    With only 1000 miles, you couldn't have taken a very long highway trip to accurately figure mileage. Heck, 1000 miles is barely over 2 full tanks in my car.... and I can get 500 miles out of a tank if I only drive on the highway. :shades:
  • donswartzdonswartz Member Posts: 28
    You are right we do take short trips. Though I drove it to work for a week and it is 26 miles each way. The needle was at half of a tank with only 150 miles on it. I am just expecting much much better. I do not have a heavy foot nor does my wife. It gets filled up about once a week.

    I bought the car in Chicago and it was 250 miles home. The car had 2 miles on it when we picked it up. We got about 25 miles on the way home. I know the car has to be broken in though 10,000 miles seems like a long way away when others are getting 30 right away.

    Who knows. If it doesn't get better soon I am taking it in. I love Honda. Well I am frustrated right now though.
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