The variation in pumping style could account for most of that 1 mpg. If I wait 5 seconds or so after the automatic shutoff kicks in, then pump some more, I can usually get another 1/2 gallon into the tank.
This was a rough week. I had to drive down the PA turnpike going 40-45 MPH due to snow, ice/slush and got hosed by a passing salt truck. I also had to warm up the car in the morning for the first time and drive it in single digit temperatures. To top it off, sudden snow flurries became heavy, causing extremely limited visibility. I drove with traffic at 5-10 MPH for 50 minutes on one stretch of PA Rt. 202.
For the first time, my car felt like it was struggling a little, especially in the extreme cold and dry salted roads. At the very least it was no longer coasting on flat stretches of road. Nonetheless, the MPG numbers still look pretty good. I had been expecting about 25 MPG but got a little better than 29 MPG.
I’m still driving gently, just a little slower than my usual. Since I have passed the break-in period, I will look to accelerate a little more aggressively and use the cruise control.
3rd fill-up:
Miles driven: 428.2 Gallons used: 14.605 Fuel Economy: 29.31873 Total miles on odometer at fill-up: 1020 miles.
2nd fill-up:
Miles driven: 440.1 Gallons used: 14.21 Fuel Economy: 30.97115 Total miles on odometer at fill-up: 592 miles.
1st fill-up:
Miles driven: 142.2 Gallons used: 4.56 Fuel Economy: 31.22807 Total miles on odometer at fill-up: 152 miles.
Boy, I am lucky I guess because my 05 LE 2.4 gets a consistent 25 in town and 39 on the highway. I never drive it over 65mph though and am easy on it in town too. At 30K miles (a month ago), I cleaned the throttle body which is not too hard but at the rear (firewall) of the engine. I bought a K&N filter when it was new, but cannot tell if this helps the mileage. I live at 6100 ft msl and the K&N can only help. I pour in a bottle of Chevron Techron fuel system cleaner at every oil change (5000 miles) which a Toyota mechanic suggested I do for what it is worth.
This is exactly how my '07 Camry behaves. I have told the dealer and they say their is nothing wrong with the transmission. I say otherwise. Tell me how a V6 can get better MPG than a 4-cyl!! I bought the 4-cyl so I would get better mileage. Boy, was I wrong. I am not happy AT ALL with this 'o7 Camry and I tell everyone I can. I canb't believe it was Motor Trend car of the year!! Not in my book. Now, my '91 Mitsubishi Gallant should have won that award. That was an awesome car. Never did anything but regular maintenance and never had a problem with it and always got in the high 20's city and mid 30's on highway. I know, smaller engine, less horsepower, but I drove that car hard and still got great mileage. It doesn't matter how I drive this Camry, it gets crappy mileage. The dealer told me in the summer it was low because of the weather, etc., but it is no better without using the air and the cooler temps.
If you have not had the I-4 TSB performed yet for hesitation, you should do that before you complain about your mpg. You should find that your car will have more power and run better.
I did have TSB EG056-06 performed and the gas mileage is the same, HOWEVER, there would sometimes be a hard downshift when coming to a stop and that is gone. I am happy with that.
My '98 Camry 4cyl got about 24-28mpg all the time in the city......I think the '07's mpg should be much higher.
I bought a K&N filter when it was new, but cannot tell if this helps the mileage. I live at 6100 ft msl and the K&N can only help.
There is no way K$N would help your mileage in any way since the bottleneck is not in your air filter anyways. In addition K$N's lesser filtering abilities could potentially allow more dirt into your engine, as compared to a cheap OEM replacement. Conculsion: K$N is waste of money at best.
Several people have posted saying their mpg is too low. It might be useful to get a bit more detail to help compare. Listed below is another way to look at mpg. The first column shows the mpg rounded to a whole number. The second column lists the number of times the car averaged x number of gallons. For example, the car had one tank where the average was 12 mpg, and 9 tanks at 23 mpg.
As you can see, my numbers were all over the map. As it turns out conditions mean everything, more so than the vehicle you are driving. Saying that you drove city or highway is not saying much either. Maybe folks could list the wind speed, temperature, topography, number of stops, speed(s), weight carried, driving style, road conditions, winter/summer gas, tire type and tire pressures just to name a few items. Comparing MPG is difficult unless you can compare your exact driving conditions with the other person.
I am cheating a little bit by posting here, my car is an Avalon with the 3.0L. The earlier 3.0L Camry probably gets similar mileage, however.
13,000+ miles, 35 fillups. Keep track on my spreadsheet.
Best Tank, 33.14 mpg. Worst Tank, 22.71 mpg.
Average for 13,000+ miles, 26.86 mpg.
If I fill up and get right on the freeway, my trip computer will hit 38 mpg at 60-65 mph (but it reads 1.48 mpg more than actual), but I rarely go that slow.
Worst tank was winter, city driving.
I considered a hybrid but a year ago, I would have had to pay a $4,000 premium over my XLE, would have to give up 50% of my trunk space (I can carry 4 golf bags) and some XLE features to save $300/year in fuel savings.
The tax credits do me no good as I don't pay any income tax (federal or state).
hi anybody else with mpg numbers, i was thinkng hybrid, but if the 4cyl is close, id get that and save quite a BIT$$$, but 20mpg is not my idea of a 4 cyl my 95 roadmaster wagon just got 26mpg on the highwaay, going 70mph,a 150 mile way trip, 75 there and then back home thanks dan
In case anyone wants actual trip info, my wife just took a trip of over 1K miles, and averaged about 29MPG.
2007 4 cylinder, with 15K miles on odometer, and we had the TSB for hesitation and cruise control applied months ago. Car had 2 people in it, with average amount of luggage for a week. Minimal need/use of air conditioning. Approximately 95% of the trip mileage was interstate (I85/I95) driving 70-75 MPH.
Miles driven 1067, gallons used 36.37, average 29.34 MPG. However, the speedometer/odometer reads just under 3% high when compared to GPS actuals. This would yield a corrected 28.51 MPG for those who want to split hairs.
Here what I have after 1.5 mths of 4-cylinder camry ownership (2007 model, 1500 miles). I live in Philly area and so most of myd riving is City. But Still mileage is in low 18's or 19. I went to Washington sometime back and even though the mileage improved, I still didnt get anywhere close to EPA estimates ( NO heat or AC used, steady or close to 60mph). ANy new TSB out there. Car made in Jan 2007 at Kentucky...
I am so tired of my 2007 Camry 4-cyl. I am lucky to get 19-20 around town. I get 29-30 on trips, but most of my driving is city. I a still comvinced that the probloem is this variable value system that is new to this model. It is good for hwy, but NOT for city. Don't kjnow anything about cars, but I have had 4-cly allmy life and NEVER got this bad MPG from one. (others is owned were Mitsubishi, Honda and Buick)
Yes.. I have had V6 before and I used to get this mileage from them, same kind of driving, same area as well. But whats surprising is that some new owners like me are reporting excellent first few mileage reports (like 25+). Not sure whats different. Are they assembles somewhere else, are parts different. I love my Toyota but this is bad. Just this morning, was telling my wife that our Gas Expenses may increase bcoz of this.
Yes!! My husband's friend (who convinced us to buy this Camry) is getting that out of his V-6!!! I have had mine in the dealership twice complaining about the MPG andf they say it is my driving!!! Well, I have driven the same way for 30+ years and never gotten this bad mileage. I think it is a tranmission problem. They won't do anything about it, though. They say the check engine light has to come on. Mechanics no of days do not know how to work on a car unless their computers tell them what to do. My brother is a certified mechanic and he has always said that the thing idles too rough for a brand new car.
What to do when no one will listen to you??!!! At least I know I am not the only one with this problem. Gas just keeps going up and I think I am going to visit my Honda dealer. How about you?? I like the looks of the Camry and how it drives, but I bought it more for reliability and gas mileage.
We have had an '07 Camry I4 auto for two months and have never gotten less than 28MPG - about 30 on most fillups. This during a break in period. Didn't use CC for first 1K.
Mine is all City Driving. Highway is 29/30... I judt graduated from Grad School, got a job and then a new car. Will have to out up with this for at least the next 10 yrs!!!!!
I bought a 2007 Camry SE V6. SO far I drove around 2000 miles in two months. I get the low fuel indication after 350 miles(around 15 gallons). It comes to 23+ miles per gallon. 80% driving is on the highway. I am not too happy about the milage compared to the EPA 31 MPG.
My 3.3 liter rated at 28 mpg highway never gets better than 26.5 on regular gas at about 70-73 mph. You lose about 5 mpg for each 10 mph increase. The average speed of the EPA highway cycle speed is 49 mph. You didn't say how fast for the 80% highway driving. I'll bet at 65-70 you could get close to the 31.
Around town mileage is highly dependent on driving cycle. I have gotten as high as 22 and as low as 17 on tanks of almost all city driving.
Bumper to bumper is pretty rare and not much ideling either.
I do drive around 65-75. I haven't taken it for a long drive. I will be doing that in a month and post the results. I appreciate responding to my post.
In comparison: I have a 4-cy A-5 in both an 06 Solara SLE and an 07 Camry LE. Both run 2000 RPM at 64 MPH. Both test the same tire resistance: running the same quarter mile coasting on the same new pavement - end speed is the same meaning equal tire resistance. I have Turanza 400s and she has Mich. green X. Wife runs the Solara pure city and gets 24 summer and 23 winter. I run 50-50 city / highway 8 miles to work one-way. I get 27 on first fill and 28 last week with the 07 Camry. No hot-doging: still in breakin period. 68 MPH max. The Camry is going to Nebraska from the deep south in 2 weeks. I need to sample some of that 3 dollar gas they got up there Hope this helps.
I'm back from my 2000 mile round trip to Nebr. 3-people with luggage - Ave. speed about 63 (got passed a lot)- ave. price of gas in Nebr was about 3.34 for regular. The 07 Camry 4-cyl got an average of 34.8 MPG. Used A/C about half the time. Used Cruse Control sparingly just on the flats and backed off up the steep hills. Its a pain but just wanted to see what the girl could do with a gallon of gas. I am satisfied with the results. used Interstates I-65, I-64, I-70, I-29. No rush hour traffic attempted.
I have a 2004 4-cyl auto with 28000 miles. My wife drives,almost exclusively a 14 mile round trip to work with 90% freeway cycle. Her mpg is rock solid between 25 and 26 mpg summer or winter. When we take long road trips to PA (535 miles), DC (305 miles) or FL (540 miles) we get a very consistent 33.5 to 35.5 mpg. We set the cruise control to 6-7 mph over the existing speed limit at all times.
Worst mileage was 24.1 mpg (suburban) and best was 35.6 (100% highway).
My 1999 Camry 4 cyl auto (85000 miles) is almost identical in town, but normal highway mpg is 36-37. Worst highway was 32.2 and best was 40.0). Same cruising conditions. My 1993 Camry V-6 auto gave 18-20 mpg (suburban) and 30-32 highway.
Sounds about right for an 04 with an A-4???? Not sure what you have. I go 16 miles round 90% interstate and get 28, but that is 5AM one way and 3PM back with no traffic to speak of because of the times.
Caution: I found out something interesting. Due to the baffles in the gas tank (what else could it be), getting a slow pump in MO. and then a fast pump in KY., my mileage registered 38 MPG. Whereas I got a 30 MPG on one fill going up to MO. Same driving conditions. Woe... It has to be that a slow slow pump will put more gas in the tank than a fast pump. That's a good thing to know. I used to believe that you could count to 5 and top off 3 times and that would about ensure you got a full tank. Not true. But the average over time will tell the truth.
2007 XLE 4cy. My second tank. A long road trip. Flat roads, average 80mph, a few "get out and stretch" stops. 404 miles at 14.1 gallons = 28.6 mpg. I was hoping for better since my 2006 XLE 4cy. got 32 on a trip like this. Hopefully it will improve.
I hate to ruin your hopes, but it won't improve much - Not at 80 MPH. It would not be inaccurate to say that the wear on your drive train and tires going from 65 to 80 MPH doubles. And your miles per gallon go way down. Not to mention the damage, death, and destruction dealt out when you get that occasional Buck deer thru the windshield event. A Mack truck does much better when they hit a deer at 80 than you would do in a Camry at 65. Sorry for the digression.
Today, I did a made an unusual trip (for me, anyway) as I did 345 miles driving exactly at the speed limit. 95% highway, 95% of the time at 65mph with cruise control. Gas mileage was an even 40.0 mpg. This was the same trip I made in my 1999 4 cyl A-4 under the 'same' conditions and got the exact same 40.0 mpg.
I can normally add 0.5 gallons to my 99 tank after the first auto shutoff, but can add anywhere from 0.4 to 0.8 gallons on my 04. I know what you mean about consistency problems. It's probably not a good idea to overfill the tanks, but on mileage testing runs I always fill to the filler cap before and after to try and get the 'same' gasoline input. Normally, I just let it finish at the first shutoff.
EPA rated at 34 MPG highway. I just got back from a 600 mile trip, running AC, speed of 75-80 mph highway, 85% highway miles, 15% city. Also had 4 construction zones of stop and go traffic for about 25 miles total. I got 32.5 MPG. I am very happy with this, and I know I could do better. The car has less than 5,000 miles also.
No issues with the car at all, very comfortable and quiet.
40 MPG? That's pushing the limit. You must either be driving with an egg under your foot or you are driving in Flat Illinois where the limit is 65 MPH and there is a cycle cop behind every corner. I'm laughing because I just went thru ILL. Got into MO where the limit is 70 and the Hypers are nowhere to be found and the Hills on 70 will kill ya. No cruise control possible there with a 4-Banger. CC and MO just don't go together with truckers wanting to keep their CC on 70. It ain't a good combo. I'm not saying the Camry A-5/4Cl will not keep it at 70 up some of those MO hills. It will - I tried it. But it's not something I'd do all the time. But I suppose you could.
My 06 Solara SLE with an A-5 / 4Cyl has a MPG readout (instant) and MPG goes straight to hell when you try staying at 65 going up a grade. But then, it goes straight to zero when you get stuck in a construction zone.
Yes, 40 mpg is about as good as I ever get at 65 mph, but I consistently get 36-37 at a cruise control of 72. The 40 mpg was from Durham, NC at 300 feet ASL to Boone, NC at 4000 feet ASL and back. I'm sure I got about 37 going up and 43 coming back as based on previous trip measurements. I use CC religiously but it downshifts to 4th or 3rd on steep climbs, of course.
I am currently testing the theory of acetone enhancing gas mileage in my '99 Camry, but it is yielding no positive results so far. In a few months I will be getting a 90,000 mile service with tune up and injectors cleaned and will be putting in low viscosity motor oil. I am eager to test the difference, if any, in mpg.
I am pleased that both our '99 and '04 Camry's get the same MPG under the same driving conditions. The '04 is about 120 lbs heavier and has 0.02 less CD, but its powertrain must be a tad more efficient.
My '93 3.0 V-6 would get 18-20 mpg in 'suburban' driving and 30-32 mpg at 72mph on cruise.
I would look at your highway mileage while on cruise control and compare it to others on this forum. If you get equivalent numbers your engine is probably OK. Your city mileage will be significantly lower and highly dependent on your driving and driving conditions.
If your highway mileage is lower than most report, you may have any number of issues...out of tune, dragging brakes, alignment, bad O2 sensor, etc.
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For the first time, my car felt like it was struggling a little, especially in the extreme cold and dry salted roads. At the very least it was no longer coasting on flat stretches of road. Nonetheless, the MPG numbers still look pretty good. I had been expecting about 25 MPG but got a little better than 29 MPG.
I’m still driving gently, just a little slower than my usual. Since I have passed the break-in period, I will look to accelerate a little more aggressively and use the cruise control.
3rd fill-up:
Miles driven: 428.2
Gallons used: 14.605
Fuel Economy: 29.31873
Total miles on odometer at fill-up: 1020 miles.
2nd fill-up:
Miles driven: 440.1
Gallons used: 14.21
Fuel Economy: 30.97115
Total miles on odometer at fill-up: 592 miles.
1st fill-up:
Miles driven: 142.2
Gallons used: 4.56
Fuel Economy: 31.22807
Total miles on odometer at fill-up: 152 miles.
If you have not had the I-4 TSB performed yet for hesitation, you should do that before you complain about your mpg. You should find that your car will have more power and run better.
My '98 Camry 4cyl got about 24-28mpg all the time in the city......I think the '07's mpg should be much higher.
Some people have good mpg....weird.
There is no way K$N would help your mileage in any way since the bottleneck is not in your air filter anyways.
In addition K$N's lesser filtering abilities could potentially allow more dirt into your engine, as compared to a cheap OEM replacement.
Conculsion: K$N is waste of money at best.
MPG Times
12 1
13 0
14 2
15 7
16 8
17 8
18 8
19 6
20 4
21 6
22 5
23 9
24 16
25 14
26 8
27 16
28 7
29 5
30 2
31 2
As you can see, my numbers were all over the map. As it turns out conditions mean everything, more so than the vehicle you are driving. Saying that you drove city or highway is not saying much either. Maybe folks could list the wind speed, temperature, topography, number of stops, speed(s), weight carried, driving style, road conditions, winter/summer gas, tire type and tire pressures just to name a few items.
I am cheating a little bit by posting here, my car is an Avalon with the 3.0L. The earlier 3.0L Camry probably gets similar mileage, however.
a alittle off topic
what kind of gas mileage do you get, say in city vs highway, im debating the base 4cyl or the hybrid
thanks
dan
Best Tank, 33.14 mpg. Worst Tank, 22.71 mpg.
Average for 13,000+ miles, 26.86 mpg.
If I fill up and get right on the freeway, my trip computer will hit 38 mpg at 60-65 mph (but it reads 1.48 mpg more than actual), but I rarely go that slow.
Worst tank was winter, city driving.
I considered a hybrid but a year ago, I would have had to pay a $4,000 premium over my XLE, would have to give up 50% of my trunk space (I can carry 4 golf bags) and some XLE features to save $300/year in fuel savings.
The tax credits do me no good as I don't pay any income tax (federal or state).
anybody else with mpg numbers, i was thinkng hybrid, but if the 4cyl is close, id get that and save quite a BIT$$$, but 20mpg is not my idea of a 4 cyl
my 95 roadmaster wagon just got 26mpg on the highwaay, going 70mph,a 150 mile way trip, 75 there and then back home
thanks
dan
Milaege - 43.3 on way down
41.8 on trip back
I couldnt believe it. Hope it keeps up this pace.
Carl
2007 4 cylinder, with 15K miles on odometer, and we had the TSB for hesitation and cruise control applied months ago. Car had 2 people in it, with average amount of luggage for a week. Minimal need/use of air conditioning. Approximately 95% of the trip mileage was interstate (I85/I95) driving 70-75 MPH.
Miles driven 1067, gallons used 36.37, average 29.34 MPG.
However, the speedometer/odometer reads just under 3% high when compared to GPS actuals. This would yield a corrected 28.51 MPG for those who want to split hairs.
Date Miles Gallons MPG Cost City Highway
3/1/2007 269 14.7 18.29932022 40 100 0
3/10/2007 274.9 14.4 19.09027863 39.74 100 0
3/26/2007 275 14.1 19.50354576 37.9 100 0
3/31/2007 240 10.67 22.49297142 29.99 60 40
4/6/2007 363.5 14.78 24.59404564 40.71 40 60
What to do when no one will listen to you??!!! At least I know I am not the only one with this problem. Gas just keeps going up and I think I am going to visit my Honda dealer. How about you?? I like the looks of the Camry and how it drives, but I bought it more for reliability and gas mileage.
Around town mileage is highly dependent on driving cycle. I have gotten as high as 22 and as low as 17 on tanks of almost all city driving.
I do drive around 65-75. I haven't taken it for a long drive. I will be doing that in a month and post the results. I appreciate responding to my post.
Thanx
Both run 2000 RPM at 64 MPH. Both test the same tire resistance: running the same quarter mile coasting on the same new pavement - end speed is the same meaning equal tire resistance. I have Turanza 400s and she has Mich. green X.
Wife runs the Solara pure city and gets 24 summer and 23 winter.
I run 50-50 city / highway 8 miles to work one-way. I get 27 on first fill and 28 last week with the 07 Camry. No hot-doging: still in breakin period. 68 MPH max.
The Camry is going to Nebraska from the deep south in 2 weeks. I need to sample some of that 3 dollar gas they got up there
Hope this helps.
The 07 Camry 4-cyl got an average of 34.8 MPG. Used A/C about half the time. Used Cruse Control sparingly just on the flats and backed off up the steep hills. Its a pain but just wanted to see what the girl could do with a gallon of gas. I am satisfied with the results. used Interstates I-65, I-64, I-70, I-29. No rush hour traffic attempted.
When we take long road trips to PA (535 miles), DC (305 miles) or FL (540 miles) we get a very consistent 33.5 to 35.5 mpg. We set the cruise control to 6-7 mph over the existing speed limit at all times.
Worst mileage was 24.1 mpg (suburban) and best was 35.6 (100% highway).
My 1999 Camry 4 cyl auto (85000 miles) is almost identical in town, but normal highway mpg is 36-37. Worst highway was 32.2 and best was 40.0). Same cruising conditions.
My 1993 Camry V-6 auto gave 18-20 mpg (suburban) and 30-32 highway.
Drem
Caution: I found out something interesting. Due to the baffles in the gas tank (what else could it be), getting a slow pump in MO. and then a fast pump in KY., my mileage registered 38 MPG. Whereas I got a 30 MPG on one fill going up to MO. Same driving conditions. Woe... It has to be that a slow slow pump will put more gas in the tank than a fast pump. That's a good thing to know. I used to believe that you could count to 5 and top off 3 times and that would about ensure you got a full tank. Not true.
But the average over time will tell the truth.
A Mack truck does much better when they hit a deer at 80 than you would do in a Camry at 65. Sorry for the digression.
Today, I did a made an unusual trip (for me, anyway) as I did 345 miles driving exactly at the speed limit. 95% highway, 95% of the time at 65mph with cruise control. Gas mileage was an even 40.0 mpg. This was the same trip I made in my 1999 4 cyl A-4 under the 'same' conditions and got the exact same 40.0 mpg.
I can normally add 0.5 gallons to my 99 tank after the first auto shutoff, but can add anywhere from 0.4 to 0.8 gallons on my 04. I know what you mean about consistency problems. It's probably not a good idea to overfill the tanks, but on mileage testing runs I always fill to the filler cap before and after to try and get the 'same' gasoline input. Normally, I just let it finish at the first shutoff.
My question is would using premium gas increase my current gas mileage or would it be just a waste of money??
Thanks
No issues with the car at all, very comfortable and quiet.
You must either be driving with an egg under your foot or you are driving in Flat Illinois where the limit is 65 MPH and there is a cycle cop behind every corner. I'm laughing because I just went thru ILL. Got into MO where the limit is 70 and the Hypers are nowhere to be found and the Hills on 70 will kill ya. No cruise control possible there with a 4-Banger. CC and MO just don't go together with truckers wanting to keep their CC on 70. It ain't a good combo.
I'm not saying the Camry A-5/4Cl will not keep it at 70 up some of those MO hills. It will - I tried it. But it's not something I'd do all the time. But I suppose you could.
My 06 Solara SLE with an A-5 / 4Cyl has a MPG readout (instant) and MPG goes straight to hell when you try staying at 65 going up a grade. But then, it goes straight to zero when you get stuck in a construction zone.
Yes, 40 mpg is about as good as I ever get at 65 mph, but I consistently get 36-37 at a cruise control of 72. The 40 mpg was from Durham, NC at 300 feet ASL to Boone, NC at 4000 feet ASL and back. I'm sure I got about 37 going up and 43 coming back as based on previous trip measurements. I use CC religiously but it downshifts to 4th or 3rd on steep climbs, of course.
I am currently testing the theory of acetone enhancing gas mileage in my '99 Camry, but it is yielding no positive results so far. In a few months I will be getting a 90,000 mile service with tune up and injectors cleaned and will be putting in low viscosity motor oil. I am eager to test the difference, if any, in mpg.
I am pleased that both our '99 and '04 Camry's get the same MPG under the same driving conditions. The '04 is about 120 lbs heavier and has 0.02 less CD, but its powertrain must be a tad more efficient.
Drem
i only drove to work, it is like half city/highway. i goes around 60-70mph, in highway.
My '93 3.0 V-6 would get 18-20 mpg in 'suburban' driving and 30-32 mpg at 72mph on cruise.
I would look at your highway mileage while on cruise control and compare it to others on this forum. If you get equivalent numbers your engine is probably OK. Your city mileage will be significantly lower and highly dependent on your driving and driving conditions.
If your highway mileage is lower than most report, you may have any number of issues...out of tune, dragging brakes, alignment, bad O2 sensor, etc.
Good hunting.
Drem