Other than getting short changed on say our new car warranty, or new tire warranty's I guess it really isn't that important is it. However at 3% error that would be about 1,080 miles at 36,000 miles. If you took you vehicle in for service with 1,080 miles OVER the 36,000 do you think the Dealer would fix the problem for free or is it considered OUT of warranty?
Oh, the day that odo reads 36,001 miles, it is definitely OUT of warranty! :-)
At 2%, you only get shorted about 700 miles on your 3/36 new car warranty.
I remember one of the car mags did their own tests on this a few years back. The BMWs were the most off, some reading as much as 5% high, but none of the cars was dead on IIRC.
2014 Mini Cooper (stick shift of course), 2016 Camry hybrid, 2009 Outback Sport 5-spd (keeping the stick alive)
"Oh, the day that odo reads 36,001 miles, it is definitely OUT of warranty."
Not exactly true. My wife's Rav had a minor trim issue, and it was 4 months past the warranty period, and about 4,000 miles over. I called Toyota and they covered it.
Oh absolutely, Toyota is very good about stuff like that, even thousands of miles and a year or more out of warranty, if it is something that you wouldn't expect to go wrong at that mileage. I just meant that TECHNICALLY, you are out of warranty at 36,001 miles. :-)
2014 Mini Cooper (stick shift of course), 2016 Camry hybrid, 2009 Outback Sport 5-spd (keeping the stick alive)
I have a 2006 Corolla LE, automatic, purchased 12 June 2006. As of 24 December 2006, I had driven 11,144 miles and used 309.4 gallons, for a 36.018099 mpg. My highest mpg was 42.8 (first fill up), and the lowest was 27.6 (don't know what happened here). My r/t commute is 92 miles. Going into work (about 5:30am), it is all interstate running about 60-65. Coming home (5:00pm), it is only about 1/3 interstate (different route because of traffic). I am very happy with this vehicle and I plan to drive until it won't go anymore.
Be prepared for a VERY LONG ownership, probably 1o years or more. You will be bored with the car long before anything goes wrong with it, provided you don't skimp on maintenance.
I have a 2001 Toyota Echo, with now 158k miles, average 41 MPG and absolutely nothing has gone wrong, not even a light bulb.
Of course all regular maintenance has been done. I am on my second set of tires, spark plugs, belts and brakes. Yearly replacement of ATF and coolant and that's it.
I know it will last a long time. I had a 1991 Geo Prizm (basically the same as the Corolla) and it lasted until 286K! Was extremely pleased with the car and only got rid of it when it was going to cost me about $2,500 to get it to pass state inspection. Considering I bought it from my next-door neighbor ($1,000 and "only" 101,000 miles), and I drove it for 8 years, I think I got my $$$ worth. Only repair, other than normal tires, batteries, oil changes, etc., was replacing 2 timing belts -- both broke.
Depends on where you live. I live in North East Ohio and I believe they start using winter fuel additives around the end of October and my wife's mileage dropped about 1% or about 3 MPG. She has a 2006 Corolla S Auto with about 6500 miles and averaged 30+ before the winter additives were added to the gas. :shades:
My 2007 is off by 4%, but the good way. If I drive 100 miles on the odometer it is really 104. I'm very sure of this. I tested it many ways, mile markers, taking two different cars to work on the exact same route, etc. So if I get 30 mpg it's really 31 and change. When I get to 100,000 miles on my car it really would be 104,000. I'M NOT COMPLAINING ABOUT THIS ONE AT ALL. If it was 4% off the other way then I'd be the first one at the dealer's complaining.
My daily commute is 128 miles roundtrip with 32 of it local roads averaging 45-55mph (when no idiots are in front of me). The remainder is on the highway with average speeds of 70-85mph. I've been averaging ~32mpg since purchasing the vehicle 54 days ago.
I'm no expert, but here are some things I've learned, since I'm getting about 23 mpg in roughly 50-50 driving of my 98 auto CE w/ 53k(!) miles:
Dirty air filter:
If air can't flow smoothly through your air filter, your mileage will go down. Can you see through it? If not, it may be time to change it.
Tire pressure and width:
Are they wider than average for the corolla? Too little air (of course, you don't want too much either!) or wider tires would increase the surface area of your car's contact with the ground, creating more tension and lowering your fuel economy. Wider tires do, however, improve handling.
Driving style:
Try to avoid higher RPM's.
A/C:
The more you run it, the worse your fuel economy.
Weight:
This is another example when More definitely equals Less. Carry passengers a lot? Have junk in your trunk (your car's silly! ).
BTW, can someone please explain who's adding stuff to the gas in the winter? Also, why else the same circmstances cause cars to get less mileage in winter? Thanks!
I'll repost after I change my air filter and reinflate my tires.
Great points Jonathan! Whether we know them or not, yours are a great reminder, especially this time of year, when there are oxygenated additives in the gas. The product is partly "burned", with the primary additive MTBE. Here's a good discussion as well on winter mileage:
I live in Northern MN. I have owned my 2006 Corolla S (5 speed) since brand new and have under 12,000 miles on it. In the summer I regularly get 40mpg+ (topped out at 43). In the winter, I average 30-36 (keep in mind that we need to have our cars run for a bit to warm them up here in the northland). I regularly travel about 15 miles to work going about 60mph. Excellent in my opinion.
I used to be able to get 325 miles per tank..which i was happy with..now im gett barely between 250-230 per tank..has anyone have this same problem? I dont know if it has to do with the cold weather or not. The only upgrade i have is an intake, which I havent had any problems with becuase i put back my orginial intake and didnt solve the problem.
It depends on where you live. I live in North East Ohio and since the end of October when the gasoline company's started using the winter additives in the gas my MPG has dropped about 10 too 12%. However this is due too a lot of things not just the winter additives being added to the gas. Such as driving conditions. It take longer to get places because of the traffic congestion and poor driving conditions. Also by running the defroster constantly is the same as running the A/C constantly. So a lot of things contribute to the reduction of MPG in winter driving
I bought a new 2007 Corolla LE in Jan. because of all I've heard about great gas mileage. I'm only getting 23 mpg and I'm very disappointed. Any suggestions out there?
I just got out of the garage with my 2006 corolla, they didn't find anything wrong with it but I only do between 260 and 280 kms. this is a joke, am leasing the car with the intention of buying but now forget it..
they say the computer is working fine.
I live in montreal,canada they say that is because is winter or because the way I drive that I only get less than 300kms out of 42.0 litres.
We purchased a 2006 Corolla S Auto in May 06. We have traveled 7,786 miles since then. Mostly City driving and occasionally short distances on the highway ( About 90% City ). We have purchased 257.7 gallons of gas since May. That comes to 30.2 per gallon overall for the nine plus months we have owned the vehicle.
However since October when they started using the winter additives and the driving conditions have been bad and we use the defrosters continually the millage has dropped to about 26 to 27 Mpg during this period. But overall for the nine plus months we have averaged the 30.2 and feel this is terrific . :shades:
We live in a large suburb in North East Ohio with a population of about 85,000 people. It's not like driving in Boston or New York city but we have a lot of stop and go traffic with a speed limit of 25 MPH throughout the City.
Which fuel is the best to use in my 2006 Corolla S. I tried to use several different kind in the Northern KY are which uses Reformulated Fuel with ethanol. I cannot seem to get better the 25 MPG with a 60/40 split city highway milage. The engine hardly sees over 2500 rpm.
I am not familiar with gasolines in the KY area but fuels which contain ethanol are never as fuel efficient as fuels which are 100% gasoline. Corolla recommends that you use fuel with no more than 10% ethanol AND an octane rating of no lower than 87.
I have also tried going to cincinnati ohio and still had the same result. They do not have reformulated fuel. I also have tried running a higher octane.
Just filled up for the first time in my 2007 Corolla CE, and the MPG computation 33 mpg. I was hoping for better, because I have the lightest foot in town and drive like an old man, but I'll wait for at least 10 fill-ups before I draw any conclusions about what kind of MPG I can expect. 33 is pretty unspectacular, but let's give it some time...
Depends if it was all highway driving.. Not so good. However if it is a combination of highway and city than that's not bad. Our Corolla S is about ten months old and has averaged about 30 MPG overall. That is with city and some highway. About 85% city and 15% highway. Also I live in North East Ohio and they add winter additives to the gas from late October through mid April. This a long with the bad winter driving conditions will knock the MPG average down any where from 5 to 10%. I am very pleased with the overall 30 MPG average so far. :shades:
You'll never get your best mpg reading on the first fill-ups of a new car! The engine is tight and not even close to being broken in.
I've found that I get better mileage and performance after 10-20K miles or more,
And, like the previous poster said, if you're getting 33 mpg with a fair amount of city or secondary roads, that's not bad -- better than many people are getting in subcompacts.
Yeah, my driving for this first tank was somewhere around 50/50 city and highway. And I'm aware that a car breaks in over time, but the idea that we need to wait 20,000 miles for an improvement in MPG is a little silly. Truth is, it's really not possible for someone to drive more lightly on the gas than I do, since I go as slowly and evenly as possible without creating a hazard. 33 MPG just isn't impressive to me given the circumstances. We'll see how it develops over time...
I totally agree. We bought a 2007 Corolla several weeks ago and the gas mileage is only 27 on mainly hwy driving. I was going to give away a 1987 Accord, but a salesman offered me money for it, so I sold it to him. That Accord was driven about half city and half highway and averaged 28 mpg. So what is all this technology doing for us?!
Hi...I couldn't find any post relevant to overdrive for a toyota corolloa so i thought i would try posting here...anyways i was wondering when is the best to turn overdrive on or off. should i keep it on at all times or what? Also...i have read some posts here about gas mileage...and i only get 21/22 city, i mostly drive city but ive seen people post 30+ driving city here...my driving habits aren't bad, i try to not use A/C, dunno whats wrong thanks
I drive 60% city and 40% highway. I usually average about 24-25. I tried different gas stations (Ky reformulated fuel which really stinks). I recently took a trip with it and averaged 33-34 mpg. The car only has 7000 miles on it now. I usually keep my OD on. It keeps the rpm down and saves fuel. I also try to keep mine under 3000 rpm.
I found also you are limited to the safety features you can get with a stick... No ABS, NO Side curtian airbags. Hopefuly the 2008 redesign will change this....
People who are expecting outrages MPG, I recommend not using your brakes at all. Don't stop for anything and just go! Braking wastes so much gas. Either that or learn to coast into every stop without using brakes and then completely cutting off your engine until you need to go again. I can guarantee it will improve your MPGs!!!
I appreciate people posting their real world numbers. The new 08 Corolla is on my list of cars to consider because of the mpg. The small size is a bit of a concern from a safety point, however.
One suggestion I have is to list additional driving conditions like; tires (low rolling resistance?), wind, season, topography (flat, hills, altitude), traffic, weight carried, driving speeds on the highway and driving habits. Trying to compare mileage between people is difficult if you do not account for all the variables. With my own car I can see mpg go from 13 (sub zero winter, all city) to 31 (summer highway with favorable winds). I find it difficult to imagine that my 3400 pound car with a 3.0L V6 could get better mileage than a Corolla unless the conditions are very different. (F=MA & M*V Squared/2 & drag coefficient)
A lot of people complain that their city mileage is much worse than the next person's city mileage, but you can't judge it unless you both explain some things, such as:
1.) How long is your commute vs. how much time it takes? My "city driving" averages nearly 30 MPH when including all the redlights (average speed calculated by my Garmin GPS system - you can do the same thing by dividing miles and minutes). If one person's city driving takes them 3 miles in thirty minutes, obviously their mileage will be dismal, as opposed to someone going twelve miles in thirty minutes. Both may be "city," but they will yield VERY different outcomes.
2.) How short are you typical trips? If your car does not warm up properly on trips, your car will always be using more fuel trying to get to operating temperature.
3.) Describe your driving style, and saying "conservative" or "aggresive" doesn't typically help. My father thinks he's fairly conservative, until he compares how he drives to me. He revs to 4,000 RPM very often, whereas I may go my entire commute and not see the top side of 3,500 RPM. We both think we drive conservatively, but without comparing things like where the transmission is shifting (in RPMs) it is hard to get a quantitative idea of just how quickly you tend to accelerate.
This is not a post directed at anyone, just a post that hopefully will help people figure out the differences in the mileage.
Many times in Honda forums I have seen people upset that they only get 20 MPG in a Civic, only to find out that their commute is approximately one mile. With a one mile commute, 20 MPG is EXCELLENT.
Another person complained that their Mercury Milan was getting 13 MPG, only to find out that they live in Manhattan!
I just bought a used 2006 Corolla with a manual transmission, 25,000 miles on it. I'm getting 36 city / 45 highway. My commute is in the Chicago suburbs, 12 miles, pretty flat, about fifteen traffic lights, takes about 20-25 minutes. I do all the usual tricks like shifting early and coasting to stops. My one highway trip was dead flat, 70 degrees, no AC, 65 mph.
I have an 07, bought new, automatic with about 5, 000 miles on it. If I had it to do over again I would have bought a new, second Camry. For the additional cost of the Camry the ride is much, much, much better and the highway mileage is almost the same. In the city the Corolla does a little better with mileage, but not enough to justify the very "small" ride in which you feel every pimple in the road.
I disagree wholeheartedly, gc. While the Corolla is more narrow, length, trunk space and passenger room are very close to the Camry. Avg MPG on the Corolla is 20% better.
And it's hard to tell at first (or second) glance if a Corolla or Camry is passing by. For a savings of 5K to 10K, the Corolla give way more bang for the buck than the Camry.
And it's hard to tell at first (or second) glance if a Corolla or Camry is passing by. For a savings of 5K to 10K, the Corolla give way more bang for the buck than the Camry.
The 2007 Corolla is the same size as the 1992 Camry ...
I just bought a second car for business, a 2007 Corolla CE. I had cruise installed for better mileage on the highway. It is a 5 speed . No power windows or locks. The car weights about 2460 pounds. It has 450 miles and gets about 35 average city and highway. Did not run A/C and have a full carload of folks. I also own a 2004 Camry LE. The Camry is much bigger on the outside and bigger on the inside, although the Corolla's interior holds its own. The Corolla is much noiser than the Camry on the highway, and being lighter, it gets blown around more. The Camry is a good 520 pounds heavier. My Camry, also a 5 speed, gets about 24 city and 32 highway. I notice that the mileage with the Corrola starts to drop off when you go above 68 mph- the Camry handles that just fine. The engine is thrashier on the Corolla, which I like, being a 1.8. I drove the Scion Xa and the Yaris and their small engines (1.5) and road noise were not satisfying. I drove the Honda Fit and it was good handling but a bit noisy and also pricier with features. I drove a Versa and it had good handling and a lot of room but it weighed about 230 pounds more than the Corolla with the same size engine, so fuel economy is just good, not great. Also, the Versa is a new model and the Corolla has been around for several years.
I own a 2005 Corolla CE with the automatic. During the school the school year I had daily commutes of about 47 miles all highway miles and I would get about 36-37 mpg consistently doing the speed limit or even a little bit above. I live in area where theres not much city driving available but I have noticed that when I run a full tank and do a lot of driving where im driving very short distances all the time it usually dips to about 34 mpg. The best I ever got was on a road trip from northern Idaho to Portland on the freeway. I got 42 mpg during about 80-85 mph the whole way. Never touched 40 since then tho. Winter driving did seem to have big effect on my car tho. I ran studded very tready snow tires and it actually dipped to 29 mpg one time. Lowest I ever got with it.
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At 2%, you only get shorted about 700 miles on your 3/36 new car warranty.
I remember one of the car mags did their own tests on this a few years back. The BMWs were the most off, some reading as much as 5% high, but none of the cars was dead on IIRC.
2014 Mini Cooper (stick shift of course), 2016 Camry hybrid, 2009 Outback Sport 5-spd (keeping the stick alive)
Not exactly true. My wife's Rav had a minor trim issue, and it was 4 months past the warranty period, and about 4,000 miles over. I called Toyota and they covered it.
2014 Mini Cooper (stick shift of course), 2016 Camry hybrid, 2009 Outback Sport 5-spd (keeping the stick alive)
I have a 2001 Toyota Echo, with now 158k miles, average 41 MPG and absolutely nothing has gone wrong, not even a light bulb.
Of course all regular maintenance has been done. I am on my second set of tires, spark plugs, belts and brakes. Yearly replacement of ATF and coolant and that's it.
Happy driving!
Phil
Dirty air filter:
If air can't flow smoothly through your air filter, your mileage will go down. Can you see through it? If not, it may be time to change it.
Tire pressure and width:
Are they wider than average for the corolla? Too little air (of course, you don't want too much either!) or wider tires would increase the surface area of your car's contact with the ground, creating more tension and lowering your fuel economy. Wider tires do, however, improve handling.
Driving style:
Try to avoid higher RPM's.
A/C:
The more you run it, the worse your fuel economy.
Weight:
This is another example when More definitely equals Less. Carry passengers a lot? Have junk in your trunk (your car's silly!
BTW, can someone please explain who's adding stuff to the gas in the winter? Also, why else the same circmstances cause cars to get less mileage in winter? Thanks!
I'll repost after I change my air filter and reinflate my tires.
Jonathan
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Jim
this is a joke, am leasing the car with the intention of buying but now forget it..
they say the computer is working fine.
I live in montreal,canada they say that is because is winter or because the way I drive that I only get less than 300kms out of 42.0 litres.
can someone tell me what to do next??? :sick:
However since October when they started using the winter additives and the driving conditions have been bad and we use the defrosters continually the millage has dropped to about 26 to 27 Mpg during this period. But overall for the nine plus months we have averaged the 30.2 and feel this is terrific . :shades:
We live in a large suburb in North East Ohio with a population of about 85,000 people. It's not like driving in Boston or New York city but we have a lot of stop and go traffic with a speed limit of 25 MPH throughout the City.
Use higher than the minimum recommended it ONLY if:
1. Your car is turbo. That's not us. The Corolla trim lines are all normal aspirating engines, including the S and discontinued XRS.
2. You have knocking, pinging or engine run on.
Other than that -- if you use an octane rating higher than 87 (or 85 at elevations > 3500 feet), you are throwing money away.
I've found that I get better mileage and performance after 10-20K miles or more,
And, like the previous poster said, if you're getting 33 mpg with a fair amount of city or secondary roads, that's not bad -- better than many people are getting in subcompacts.
So what is all this technology doing for us?!
Also...i have read some posts here about gas mileage...and i only get 21/22 city, i mostly drive city but ive seen people post 30+ driving city here...my driving habits aren't bad, i try to not use A/C, dunno whats wrong
thanks
I usually keep my OD on. It keeps the rpm down and saves fuel. I also try to keep mine under 3000 rpm.
One suggestion I have is to list additional driving conditions like; tires (low rolling resistance?), wind, season, topography (flat, hills, altitude), traffic, weight carried, driving speeds on the highway and driving habits. Trying to compare mileage between people is difficult if you do not account for all the variables. With my own car I can see mpg go from 13 (sub zero winter, all city) to 31 (summer highway with favorable winds). I find it difficult to imagine that my 3400 pound car with a 3.0L V6 could get better mileage than a Corolla unless the conditions are very different. (F=MA & M*V Squared/2 & drag coefficient)
1.) How long is your commute vs. how much time it takes? My "city driving" averages nearly 30 MPH when including all the redlights (average speed calculated by my Garmin GPS system - you can do the same thing by dividing miles and minutes). If one person's city driving takes them 3 miles in thirty minutes, obviously their mileage will be dismal, as opposed to someone going twelve miles in thirty minutes. Both may be "city," but they will yield VERY different outcomes.
2.) How short are you typical trips? If your car does not warm up properly on trips, your car will always be using more fuel trying to get to operating temperature.
3.) Describe your driving style, and saying "conservative" or "aggresive" doesn't typically help. My father thinks he's fairly conservative, until he compares how he drives to me. He revs to 4,000 RPM very often, whereas I may go my entire commute and not see the top side of 3,500 RPM. We both think we drive conservatively, but without comparing things like where the transmission is shifting (in RPMs) it is hard to get a quantitative idea of just how quickly you tend to accelerate.
This is not a post directed at anyone, just a post that hopefully will help people figure out the differences in the mileage.
Many times in Honda forums I have seen people upset that they only get 20 MPG in a Civic, only to find out that their commute is approximately one mile. With a one mile commute, 20 MPG is EXCELLENT.
Another person complained that their Mercury Milan was getting 13 MPG, only to find out that they live in Manhattan!
And it's hard to tell at first (or second) glance if a Corolla or Camry is passing by. For a savings of 5K to 10K, the Corolla give way more bang for the buck than the Camry.
The 2007 Corolla is the same size as the 1992 Camry ...