2013 and Earlier Audi A8 Lease Questions

coloradoa8l

4.56% interest (.0019 X 2400) and 64% residual after 36 months? Do you really need to ask that question? That is awesome, Comparing that to other luxury car leases it's like you stole it. High mileage leases for other companies would be around $1,800 per month.

CarMan@Edmunds

Hi George. Let me begin by saying that $7,000 is way too much money to put down when leasing. If your leased vehicle is totaled in an accident or stolen and never recovered, your $7,000 essentially disappears. You should be able to lease any car that you want without making any sort of capitalized cost reduction.

The money factor that you were quoted for this car is right in line with Audi Financial Services' buy rate for it. This is a good sign because it means that the dealer you are working with is not trying to mark your car's factor up to add additional back-end profit to your deal. As far as this car's selling price goes, you are only getting a $1,600 discount on a car that has at least a $4,700 spread between its full MSRP and dealer invoice prices. I am not all that familiar with what the market is like for the A8 right now, but if I was in the market for one I personally would want a bigger discount than that.

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guedo

Car Man,

I am looking at getting a 2006 A8L with a few options - MSRP topping out at $80,800. My local dealership has put a "fleet deal" on the table - or about $1,500 above invoice. I am wondering if you could help me with some numbers. I would like the residuals, and money factors for the following: 48 months, 36 months, and 24 months with 12K/year and 15K/year. I figure if I am asking, I'll cover all bases ! I have $20K earmarked for this purchase (thanks to the pending LEMON LAW BUY BACK on my 2006 Infiniti M35 :lemon: ) - I am thinking of doing drive offs only, then put the balance in an interest baring account and let that sum make automatic payments for several months. That would be better than putting a huge down to lower payments, right? Thanks in advance!!!

CarMan@Edmunds

Hello guedo. If you lease a 2006 Audi A8 4.2L through Audi Financial Services right now for 24 months with 15,000 miles per year, its buy rate lease money factor and residual value should be .00145 and 56%, respectively. The numbers for an otherwise identical 36 month lease should be .00145 and 44%. You definitely do not want to lease this car for 48 months. Audi is not providing lease support on that term and its money factor for it is practically triple the one that is available for shorter terms. I believe that this car's 12,000 mile per year residual values would be 1% higher.

You are absolutely right that you would be much better off using the money that you have set aside for this lease to pay its first month's payment , security deposit, acquisition fee, etc... and then using the rest to make a bunch of payments for you.

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captbud1949

I have been quoted from my local Audi dealer in W. PA. a 2006 A8L with an MSRP of 78160 a price of 68958. This car is brand new not even serviced. The lease price is $4,000 higher. Is Audi offering marketing support for cars that are sold and not leased at this time? Just trying to figure out where the dealer is coming up with his numbers.
Thanks in advance

CarMan@Edmunds

Hi captbud1949. Yes, Audi is currently providing dealer cash on the 2006 Audi A8L. Specifically it has $7,000 dealer cash on this car. This dealer cash is not compatible with Audi Financial Services' special lease or finance programs.

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navininkc

I'd like to know what the money factor and residual are for a 2007 A8L currently. I'd lease for 36 months at 12k miles/year.

Also: where do you get your info?
why are the lease rates so much higher now than they were on 2006 models?

denaliinpa

hello carman,

i have an odd question about the lease i currently have on my 05 Audi A8. i leased my A8 in December of 04. the lease is for 2 years and 24000 miles. currently i have 4 payments remaining and only 10500 miles on the car. when i leased my vehicle i told my sales person that i was concerned that i would not put 24000 miles on the car. i expressed an interest in buying my A8 at the end of the lease. my sales person told me that the dealership would take ownership of the car at the end of the lease, CPO it for 100000 miles and then sell it back to me for less than the ending residual with Audi of America. well i stopped at the dealership last week to test drive an 07 S4. my sales person is now the floor manager. i asked again about purchasing my A8 in December and he told me he couldn't do what he initially said because Audi of America has changed their position and will not allow them to buy the car back and then resell it to me. he also said Audi insures their leases for any disparity in value when they conclude thus making it even harder for me to negotiate a purchase with Audi. since the ending residual is more than the actual book value of the car it has left me in a bit of a predicament. is what my sales person telling me accurate? do manufactures negotiate at the end of leases with their vehicles? if it is accurate wouldn't my salesperson have been aware of this when he leased me the car? was i mislead?

thanks!

allroadguy

I was browsing the Audi website, and it appears that Audi is providing some type of lease support for preowned Audi A8 models. Does anyone have any more details regarding this program (MF, Residuals, etc)? Thanks in advance for any assistance.

wstuart1

I am set to either lease or buy an A8 ('04 or later=new style). I am self employed and can right off a lease payment but I heard the car value drops like a rock if you buy/lease new. I can write the check for a slightly used one with the argument of getting a better price. suggestions?

ccap

Looking to lease an 07 A8 SWB. Want to know how much I can expect off MSPR and what the lease factors are and the ammrox payments for a 10k and a 12 k 24 and 36 month lease.
The car will sticker for approx 75k

THanks

denaliinpa

ccap,

can't help on the current lease rates but as far as how much you should get off msrp it should be around 3k. if an 06 would be ok you could probably get get about 10k or 11k off msrp. Audi is currently offering 7k in dealer rebate money. good luck. the A8 is a fantastic car.

CarMan@Edmunds

Hello navininkc. Audi Financial Services' current buy rate lease money factor and residual value for a 36 month lease of a 2007 A8 4.2 long wheel base model with 12,000 miles per year are .00249 and 54%, respectively. Manufacturers generally increase their support on vehicles as the model year progresses. I suspect that Audi's money factors on the 2007 A8 will drop as the months progress. Of course, its residual values will drop as well, negating some of the benefit of any money factor enhancement.

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CarMan@Edmunds

Hi denaliinpa. Many banks now insure their vehicles' against significant drops in their residual values. I do not know if the specific story about Audi that your salesperson told you is true, but it is plausible. It's difficult to say whether your salesperson knew this when he sold you your car and he just told you what he did to get you to sign on the dotted line or if this was a policy change by Audi Financial Services that he would not have had any idea about. If you don't believe him, you can always stop by another Audi dealer or two and see what they can do for you on your current car's purchase price.

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CarMan@Edmunds

Hi ccap. Audi financial Services' current buy rate lease money factor and residual value for a 24 month lease of a 2007 A8 SWB with 15,000 miles per year are .00249 and 62%. The numbers for an otherwise identical 36 month lease are .00249 and 53%. Normally AFS increases residual values by 2% for leases with only 12,000 miles per year and 3% for leases with 10,000 miles per year. However, I have heard that its residual value added for leases of the A8 may only be 1%.

I am not personally all that familiar with what the market for this car is like right now, but you may be able to get an idea of how much you should pay by visiting the following discussion: "Audi A8: Prices Paid & Buying Experience".

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mikespopworld

I really wanted the '07 A8L, and I waited nearly a year for it, passing on a 24 month lease on an '06 the year before with a residual of 71% and 10k miles per year. I was shocked and very angry when after waiting nearly a year the new residual for the same lease was 64%!! - I ended up leasing a '07 S550 mercedes instead with a 73% residual - for 27 months.

rjlaero

A8's are in short supply for a lot of dealers throughout the country. Audi knows they are going to sell these cars regardless, so there's no reason for them to worry too much about residuals or money rate factors.

e350v10

The Audi resale is very poor - for leasing you are better off with a Mercedes. I have an '05 A8L (18K miles) I was going to trade in on an S8. The trade-in value came in around $40K - that's on a $75K car. Take a look at the Mannheim sales - even the W12s have dropped into the $70Ks.

It is such a great car - I don't understand why they depreciate so fast. It's crazy.

stickgs

Looking to lease a 2004 A8L. what kind of terms should I expect to get on a 36mo or 48mo lease as far as residuals and money factors? car is a CPO in good condition with approx 17k mi and hoping to pay no more than $45k or so. Might consider putting $1-2k down. Any help appreciated carman. thanks

Stick

reality2

That is a bit strange considering that Audi's residuals are higher than that of Mercedes by several points at around 52.2% after 24 months with BMW ast 52.4% and Lexus at 52.8% while MB is around 48% within the same period. I would go by these numbers.

CarMan@Edmunds

Hi Stick. Unfortunately, used vehicle leases are so much less popular than new vehicle leases and there are so many variables associated with them that I do not personally keep tabs on the specific details of manufacturers' used vehicle lease programs. Sorry that I could not be of more help.

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berisky

Anyone have any experience leasing a 2007 A8 Short Sport or know the money factor and residuals?

iamtheid

I custom-ordered a light silver and blue leather 2005 Audi A8L and only put on about $14k miles on it as of a few weeks ago. My payoff was $56k, and retailed for $89k, and I added a lot of dealer options, and they threw in a lot, $7k or so worth, and I was able to just sell the car around December 19th for $70,500, not even Audi certified. The car did have all brand new tires and wheels because I was given that program. If a tire or wheel goes bad, they give you a new one - a 3rd party company. Mine all went bad in LA, so I got all new ones including the spare. So, the most miles on any tire, including the spare was only about 500 miles. I sold it for cash, paid off my lease, and pocketed over $13k. My down was $10k when I leased it on a 48 month lease. I just leased a 2007 S8 and again got an incredible deal. I think my payments are at least $600 per month less than some of my friends who also ordered the car. I ordered it in July of 2006, but because of lack of carbon fiber, the car just came in on 12/17 or so. I expect to do well on this as well. If you end up with $10-20k after 2 years you are doing pretty well, especially if you put less than $10k (2005 A8L), or $2500 (2007 Audi S8).

I also rented the new Mercedes 2007 S550 and it was like a Chrysler! And about $130k with lots of options. I have owned three S Class Mercedes since 2000 and they were great. But this new 2007 was crap!

topspin628

I tend to agree with you on the new S Class. To me it drives very Lexus like which is fine if you want that but the steering is way overboosted.
Can I ask you the specifics on your S8 lease deal. I've leased many cars and have never walked away on the plus side. I've just turned the car in and paid for any excess mileage.
Thanks

iamtheid

I always lease because of the huge deduction on my company or myself, personally. I can write off 100% of the payment, the insurance, the gas, etc. I do have several cars but always treat the Audi as my "business car".

That being said, I helped the dealership that sold me my A8L by selling another 40 cars to other friends of mine, albeit A4 Turbo's, A6's, and about another 8 or so A8L's and two A8-W12's, and only dealt with the Fleet/Internet manager. He got me the car fully loaded, except for only the solar sunroof, but threw in the Auto-Armor, the 4-year unlimited tire/wheel replacement package, one-year of prepaid OnStar, the $399 a year package, which was the last year that Audi included that on any Audi - and that saved me about $7.5k. Then he took $8k off the MSRP of the car. So after putting the $10k down, I sold the 48-month lease car as if I had financed it. I used to import European cars in the mid-1980's before all of that ended, so I am familiar with hundreds of Euro cars. I also entered the market when leasing was one year away. Now, I leverage that, keep low miles on the Audi, and get a lot of money back, because I never and WOULD NEVER turn a lease car back in. I usually do a 42-48 month lease, depending on the car, it's residual, etc. But my 2005 A8L had a residual, after 48 months, of almost $49k. So, I sold it two years early and pocketed between $13k and $14k. Never turn in your leased car and get rid of it early. A four year lease usually breaks even, if you purchased (leased) the car at a good price, at between 24-30 months. So, I walked away with that money and then got almost the same freebies, although this time the tire/wheel warranty is illegal to sell in CA, there is NO ONSTAR anymore which I hate, but he threw in the auto-armor, Lo-Jack, and XM Satellite Radio, and reduced the MSRP by $3.5k. Most people cannot get a penny off MSRP, but I got that because I send the dealership a lot of business, albeit not 40 cars in a year anymore, but at least 10-15 finances, cash purchases, and leases. I called Beverly Hills Porsche Audi just to confirm that I had a great deal, and they quoted me $5400 drive-off on a 48-month lease with payments of around $2450 w/tax. But that did not include XM, or the auto-armor, or free Lo-Jack. So, the payment would've most likely been at least $90 higher.

The car had a sticker of about $112995 without ANY satellite radio, I hate Sirius, and they all come with that, and it's total crap, so the car is already pre-wired for any kind of satellite radio, so he got me a new XM Radio, with 90 days free so I can continue my family plan. I have four cars with XM and a portable unit as well.

So, I know the car will hold much more of it's value than what they are estimating - which is basically slightly less than my 2005 A8L at close to $88k, with a residual close to $49k. They are saying that this car will only be worth in the low $40's in four years. But because 2009 brings about the new RS8 with the 604HP engine, making it 0-62 in about 3.5 seconds, I am willing to gamble.

Plus the A8 series is being completely re-designed for 2009. I will order a 2009 RS8, most likely closer to $160k, because of the ceramic brakes and other features they will start to offer in 2008 and 2009, and the re-design of the car, and I bet I will get close to $85k for my car in 18 months. Because it's going, and I ordered a unique S8 color and interior, and because the car is just plain gorgeous.

Hope that helps. Never turn in a lease and sell it early until the lease "break-even" point. This is the best time to sell a leased car and pay it off as if it is a finance. I have been doing this since the late 1980's, and I always get a good chunk of money back, even on BMW's, and especially on the BMW M cars, and Porsche 911's!

Good luck.

Brian

hikerjimmy

Hi all,

Almost ready to lease an Audi A8L here in the Western burbs in Chicago. I already own an A6 - the wife loves it! I am wondering a few things. First off, this vehicle lists for $80,470 and includes the $4,400 Premium Package, the $1,900 19" wheel option, and the $550 Sorry-is Sat Radio. What kind of discount might I expect? And anyone know the residual and money factor for a 36 month lease? The guys at the dealer said the 36 month lease is the "sweet spot" these days and to expect the best money factor there. They also said that if I pay a $550 service fee, all scheduled maint. is covered. And finally, as a returning customer, there is supposedly some money factor discount?

I know I am asking for a lot, but this $50,000+ for a car is new territory for me. If it wasn't for the beauty and overall package of the A8L, I wouldn't even be doing this - the new A6 is just around the corner anyway.

Thanks in advance for your help.

Jim

iamtheid

I know that I had the best deal in my 2005 A8L, the last year Audi covered everything, not just scheduled maintenance, and sold the tire/wheel package, and had OnStar, etc. But my car was almost $90k plus extra options. How can yours be so cheap? I had the 19" wheels, but I also had every option "except" the solar sunroof, plus the tire/wheel 48 month option, Auto-Armor, VERY IMPORTANT in sunny states, like CA, Lo-Jack, OnStar (paid for one year at $399.95), and an extra set of sports Dunlop 19" tires all for free. Plus an extra $7.5k discount off retail. My payment was only $940.03 (including 8.25% sales tax in CA) - $866 base on a 48 month lease and I sold it last month and got back almost $14k with a $10k down payment on the original lease.

This is actually a very cheap car because I had all the packages that were offered plus more than was ever shown on the sticker. I guess it was a better time and lower lease rate for the car. I hear know that you don't even get a real 19" or 20" wheel and tire, that they put that crappy Mercedes-type black wheel, which is smaller, and can't even register on the Tire Pressure System! How pathetic it's become so soon.

The car is great and I went back and leased a 48 month 2007 S8 which I love - but I got about $4k in free stuff and $3.5-4k off MSRP, and my drive-off was only $2500.

So I owe about $110k on the car and my first payment is about $2000 with tax on 02/01/07. I will dump it in about 16 months to get the new body style 2009 A8 and the new RS8 with the high-end Lambo engine in it for between 605-620HP.

I really can't help but this link came to my email.

Good luck. But get at least $10k off the car.

iamtheid

I am sorry but I did have my first 1983 Porsche 928S in 1983, and took delivery in late 1982 at seventeen. The MSRP was about $55k.

It was the fastest production car in the US at the time at 146mph.

My insurance was about $10.5k a year for the first year. So, I don't think of a car today at $150k or even $350k being expensive. If you do the math, I think my old 1983 928S would be a $400k+ car.

So, maybe you shouldn't stick with the low-end German stuff. I have had only about 550 cars since 1985, mostly about 490 Euro imports between 1984-1990. So, I am quite aware of the expense and insurance costs of these cars. I guess I just don't get it. Unless you pay $250k or more, why [non-permissible content removed] about the car. If it breaks down, purchase another one and move one. I mean a decent house in LA is about $5MM! And that's a poor person's house in LA terms.

I guess what I am saying is just get up to speed on cost in this country. There is no longer a middle, or upper middle class. You are either poor, the last of the upper middle class, or rich and/or super-rich (being above $500MM or so).

It's sad but someone voted Bush President!

CarMan@Edmunds

Hi berisky. I can give you an idea of what this car's current lease program is like. You never mentioned how long you want to lease it for or what sort of mileage allowance you need, so for now I am going to assume that you are interested in a 36 month lease with 15,000 miles per year. Let me know if you want something different. Audi Financial Services' current buy rate lease money factor and residual value for a 36 month lease of a 2007 Audi A8 short wheel base with 15,000 miles per year are .00130 and 46%, respectively.

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berisky

Thanks for the info. With that residual, I will not be getting an Audi.