2013 and earlier-Honda Accord Lease Questions

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  • bvdj84bvdj84 Member Posts: 1,724
    That doesn't seem to bad for a coupe, with 15k, as long as your $0 Down.

    What color you getting.... Get the RED!
  • mj1228mj1228 Member Posts: 6
    thanks for the input.....i was thinking nighthawk black perl....but the red is sharp

    any chance you know the invoice on this car?
  • bvdj84bvdj84 Member Posts: 1,724
    it should be around $23-24k, the EX should be around $22k or so. You can find invoice prices here on Edmunds. But, dealers don't always work the price as well on a coupe as they do with the sedan.

    I think you got a great deal on a coupe, and you got more miles.

    My problem already, is that I am over my mileage, like 3 months, or 3,000 miles or so, and its not under a Honda lease, but wish to eventually get the new Accord. Hopefully they will let me out early if they know I am over and move to an Accord. I am on a 12k, I am over for the year, and drive about 1k a month. I am not worried, but at some point I will need to think about doing something, because there is a point in a lease that you are in a better position to trade with minimal problems. I've done it before though. I have been taking my leased car on Vacations, so it will be over mileage, but I won't keep it for the full lease.
  • dammitjim1dammitjim1 Member Posts: 95
    Hi All,

    I was quoted via internet the following price/terms on a lease of an Accord EX-L 6-cyl coupe from a LI, NY Honda dealer:

    Buy Price: $26,862
    OTD: $484.46
    Term: 39 months, 10K mi/yr
    Monthly: $416.96

    Seems like a good deal - opinions?

    The dealership is not that local to me - about a 30 minute drive. I am hoping that they are not using the usual BS tactics to get me to drive over there and then they don't have the car I want, or "made a mistake" on the lease quote.
  • bvdj84bvdj84 Member Posts: 1,724
    Lease rates might be pretty strict on the Accord-

    Have them do a "standard" lease, 10kmiles, 36mths, not 39 or 48, unless that changes the payment for the better, but usually its not always that way. You don't want to commit any longer than a 36 on a lease though, unless that truly does not bother you. I feel as a consumer should benefit 50% from the deal, and the dealer get 50% part of the deal, not them getting more, and the customer getting less.

    This deal seems like its working a bit more to their advantage. If your serious, then push, you'll get what you want within reason.

    I would push harder on the deal, and look up the invoice price, try email a few other dealer in the area, and see what they say, doesn't mean you have to drive all the way there, you can just present them with the better deal. It just seems its a bit high when you can get an other model $30k car for about that payment.

    Good Luck
  • jhinscjhinsc Member Posts: 399
    I'm picking up the car tomorrow. I got 15K miles, 36 mo, $360/mo, only tax and fee's down. Good deal?
  • jcastaldojcastaldo Member Posts: 25
    What dealership did you get that deal at? It is pretty goood
  • jurizarjurizar Member Posts: 23
    I am in southern california and I am entertaining offers on an 08 Accord EX sedan I4. So far, the best quote I'm getting is from Norm Reeves Honda. What should I expect with fees in CA. I'm thinking of paying them during drive off in order to not have them in the lease payment. I have not told them that I am planning on leasing yet. I'm waiting to get the best price but I did gather information. Help me out with figuring what my payment could look like and what fees I should expect while sitting with the salesman.

    MSRP: $24,530
    Negotiated price: $21,545
    MF: .00186
    Residual: 58%
    15,000 miles per year
    and I'm not planning on putting any down payment. Thanks in advance.
  • carshopper100carshopper100 Member Posts: 5
    Is based on what? The MSRP? or the negotiated price? Thanks and what is the current residuals and money factor for the Honda Accord EX-L and EX-L V6??? Thanks
  • jhinscjhinsc Member Posts: 399
    I'm picking up the car tomorrow. I got 15K miles, 36 mo, $360/mo, only tax and fee's down. Good deal?

    Follow-up: Got the car with the deal above, except I didn't have to pay anything out of pocket, and the payment was $359/mo. I think I forgot where I was in the negotiation when I agreed to the deal 2 days ago. I had to wait because they were out of 08 EX-L V6's and had to find one. I wanted the 08 since the rates were better than the 09's. I am very, very happy!

    To answer where I got it - East Coast Honda, SC.

    BTW - the car is awesome!! :shades:
  • bvdj84bvdj84 Member Posts: 1,724
    Yeah, my dealer is running an event to get people in the door, when I know its just a normal hoax to get people in there, saying that our trade-ins will never be worth more than they are now, Well Duh! Cars depreciate! They are giving an Accord away, so we all got a code, which the winning number is at the dealer, I might go to the dealer just to see the code, to see if I win, But, if I do, not likely but if I do, I still have to pay the taxes and all that jazz. Also, I am already in a lease, and its quite early in the lease, though I would love to get into an 08 Accord, this dealer would not be the place to do anything rational. I'll probably wait til next spring, and then sniff out the market.

    Good job on your deal!
  • dammitjim1dammitjim1 Member Posts: 95
    Got a quote today from a LI, NY dealer on a 6-cyl EX-L coupe, non-navi financed through Honda America for 36 months/12K mi/yr, which includes $1500 excess wear allowance. Total OTD cost was $425 + DMV fees.

    Monthly Payment: $425

    This particular dealer uses 2 other banks ( one was Hann Financial Services) which actually would have had a lower payment, but had no excess wear allowance at all, and pretty much stated in the lease terms that the car would be returned in the same condition it was delivered in or incur charges. There was also a $450 disposition fee with the bank leases. I am inclined to go with the Honda America lease, as it has much friendlier end of lease terms.

    Does this look like a good deal?
  • jurizarjurizar Member Posts: 23
    just picked up a mystic green accord for 36 months.

    2008 Honda Accord EX

    MSRP: 24,495
    Negotiated Price: 21,400
    Acquisition Fee: $595
    Total Cost: 21,995
    Residual: 58%
    MF: .00186
    Drive off: $612 includes License, first month, tire fee, and doc fees.
    Monthly payment $306.00
    15,000 miles per year

    Got them to throw in wheel locks, splash guards, and trunk tray before I told the salesman I was leasing. I used the carbuyingtips.com lease worksheet and took my laptop into the dealer to use the worksheet as he was getting the payment out. At first, we he overshot the price I had by $20 and when I pointed it out to him, he went to his manager and was told that the price included a spoiler that was going to be put on the car. I told him we didn't want the spoiler and the payment was adjusted. My calculation actually shot it over by .79 cents. Got it from Norm Reeves Honda in Cerritos. :shades:
  • jhinscjhinsc Member Posts: 399
    Good deal - congrats! :shades:
  • jhinscjhinsc Member Posts: 399
    Payment seems high to me - should be in the mid-high $300 at most. Read my post about my 08 EX-L V6 sedan - payment of $360 with no $ out of pocket. What interest/money factor are they using? Are you looking at an 08 or 09? Any accessories added to the car? Mine had the sunroof visor, wheel locks and pinstripes.
  • bvdj84bvdj84 Member Posts: 1,724
    Too high of a payment! Shop elsewhere, because dealers are dealing more on these.
  • CarMan@EdmundsCarMan@Edmunds Member Posts: 38,514
    Hey rxke. Honda Finance's current buy rate lease money factor and residual value for a 24 month lease of a 2008 Accord Coupe EX-L V6 without navigation with 15,000 miles per year are .00186 and 63%, respectively for consumers who qualify for its "Super Preferred" credit tier and pay a security deposit at lease signing. The numbers for an otherwise identical 36 month lease are .00186 and 53%. Don't bother with a 24 month lease of the '09 version of this car, its money factor for that term is terrible, but its 36 month, 15k numbers for the '09 are .00270 and 56%.

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  • CarMan@EdmundsCarMan@Edmunds Member Posts: 38,514
    Hi carshopper100. Vehicles' residual values are based upon a percentage of their full MSRPs, including the destination charge and the MSRPs of any options that are allowed to be residualized.

    Honda Finance's lease program for the Accord varies by term and mileage allowance. You never mentioned what either of these variables are, so for now I will assume that you are interested in a 36 month lease with 15,000 miles per year. Let me know if you want something different. Honda Finance's current buy rate lease money factor and residual value for a 36 month lease of a 2008 Accord Sedan EX-L 4-cylinder without navigation with 15,000 miles per year are .00186 and 57%, respectively for consumers who qualify for its "Super Preferred" credit tier and pay a security deposit at lease signing.

    The numbers for an otherwise identical lease of an '08 Accord EX-L V6 Sedan without nav are .00129 and 56%.

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  • dammitjim1dammitjim1 Member Posts: 95
    Mid-high $300 with no money down? This is just 1st months payment + plates.
  • jhinscjhinsc Member Posts: 399
    No $ out of pocket is different than no money down. 1st mo's pymt and plates would still make it a good deal in the $360 - $370 mo. pymt range. Do you have a trade in the mix? I would stay with Honda Financial and not another lease company. You will have the most flexibility at end of lease. I was able to trade out of my 06 Accord 5 months early without a financial "penalty", meaning there was no deficit rolled into my new car.
  • dammitjim1dammitjim1 Member Posts: 95
    I am surprised that you were able to get such a low payment on the V6 through HVT, which is reportedly higher (according to the dealer I went to - who admittedly could be lying) than bank leases. I have not seen anybody else on this forum reporting that low a lease payment on the V6 coupe without a substantial down payment. I have no trade on this deal - just 1st month payment + DMV.
  • jhinscjhinsc Member Posts: 399
    If you run through the Edmunds lease calculator, you'll see you can get your payment down to the $365-380 range. You will have to negotiate at invoice or just under. No sense in paying more unless you want to go with an 09 model year. Good luck to you! :shades:
  • whackedwhacked Member Posts: 14
    Hi,

    I am looking for the MF and Residuals on a 2008 Honda Accord EX Sedan V-6 with 12k miles a year. Thanks for the help!
  • jj57jj57 Member Posts: 1
    Hi,

    I'm looking at a EX-L V-6 with nav right now, and all 3 different dealers keep playing the numbers game.

    What is a reasonable expected payment with the least out of pocket for a 36 month and 15K a year lease?

    Thanks.
  • carshopper100carshopper100 Member Posts: 5
    I have in front of me all of the paperwork for a 2008 Honda Accord Sedan EX-L V6 and I think they are trying to screw me on something. 36/12 k miles by the way

    26,734.02 - 501.62 capitalized cost reduction ( which they are claiming is the bank fee that I have to pay out of pocket
    26232.40 - adjusted capital cost
    16,643.10 - residual
    365.84 payment
    23.78 tax

    total payment - 380.62

    1185.57 - due at signing which includeds
    501.62 - capital cost which they say is the bank fee
    32.61 - sales tax
    389.62 1st month payment
    125.00 reg fee
    128.50 - tag fee
    8.22 other taxes
    1185.57 total due at lease signing

    Agreed upon value on vehicle 25539.07 +
    595.00 acquisition fee +
    599.95 Dealer fee = 26734.02

    This seems like an ok deal but what do you think? Thank you much appreciated
  • bvdj84bvdj84 Member Posts: 1,724
    I think it looks like a good deal, and really with minimal down, so without that, your payment looks to be about $400, so that is another thing to think about, unless that is a big deal, but I would almost say, pocket the down payment, and just keep the plain payment, because its really not making too big of a difference to your payment. If you go that route, don't let them mess around your payment, its ususally about $20 or so per thousand. $20 bucks off your payment or the $1k or so in your pocket, and you got a decent deal, nice car.

    Whats with a bank fee? thats weird, I haven't ever done that, sounds like that might be their Doc fee, and that is TOO high. Work on that. $500, I would ask to see exactly in writing where its going, and for what?

    Also whats with the dealer fee too? So now a Bank Fee, and a Dealer fee?
    uh, NO!! Work on this, That is a way to get your overall price higher for the car, so it seems like your getting a lower price, but nearly $1,100 or so for fees? Sounds fishy. Decent payment, but dang, whats with all the fees?

    Dealers disguise much of their fees, and they can blindside you. Why spend more than you have to.
    Check it all out, before signing.

    $599 dealer fee? Their way of getting more income. I would'nt be suprised if its going to the same budget as the bank fee.
    $500 Bank fee? Its a lease, going through American Honda, and I am sure they don't have this fee. Unless your going through another third party.
    They sound so similar....

    Acquisition fee is a given, but these are negotiable, and I would walk if they don't get rid of them, I have never had to deal with this...EVER. Even when getting
    quotes. There are other dealers, don't worry, but try investigating.

    They are taking advantage of ya, with these fees... Dealers think we are stupid, DON'T sign yet.
  • dodgehappydodgehappy Member Posts: 118
    I was reading on another forum that the new incentives till 8/31 for 4cyl Accords are 1000 under invoice, does that sound right? If so, any chance this would be on coupes too?
  • rmswicegoodrmswicegood Member Posts: 2
    I would like some of the experts on this forum to see if I have a good deal or not. Today I neogitiated a 36 month 12k miles/year lease on an Accord EX-L with Nav. The negotiated price of the car was 28,600. I paid 2362.47 down and monthly payments will be $391.51. This seems high to me. Accord to my calculations using a money factor of .00245, it shouldn't be this. Could someone comment?
  • bvdj84bvdj84 Member Posts: 1,724
    Break the deal completely down, get a print out, and see all fees they are charging or not charging you. This will be the only way. The post before you had a few extra fees, that nearly totaled in about $1,000 in fees! It looks like you got the V6 Navi model?
    You need to work on your downpayment a bit more. Try to keep it minimal, and find out exactly why it is so much. Remember, when getting quotes, email many dealers, even if they are a bit away from you, that way you can fully inform yourself of an average quote. Online quotes can be had by going to Honda.com and getting dealers in your area, then email them, Ask for a lease quote, provide them with a good sale price to begin with, of course start with $0 down! Downpayments blur any deal sometimes. Get the email quote you like, and provide this to a dealer you want to buy from, most will honor it. I have gotten some good quotes online, it helps.

    1. Sale Price
    2. $0 down! ( if you want to lower your payment, though not advised, don't put one down until your deal is as good as its gets)
    3. Check all the fees they are charging (don't ask, just look for them)

    Thats it, good deals can be had, and sometimes it takes a few tries before getting the one you want.
  • rmswicegoodrmswicegood Member Posts: 2
    The down payment included the sales tax on the vehicle and the Honda charge of $595 (or something around there.) So other than, I didn't put anything down. Yes, this car is with Nav.
  • jcastaldojcastaldo Member Posts: 25
    rmswicegood,

    Is your credit over 720? If so the money factor (interest rate) should be more than half of what your paying. This will take over $50 a month off your payment. If your credit is not that good ask a relative to co-sign that has over 720 score. It is a savings of $2000 - $3000 over the life of the lease.

    Also I know dealers in NJ/NY metro area selling that car for $27000, plus tax and fees

    Joe
  • jhinscjhinsc Member Posts: 399
    The down payment included the sales tax on the vehicle and the Honda charge of $595 (or something around there.) So other than, I didn't put anything down. Yes, this car is with Nav.

    By your statement above, it appears you already leased the car?
  • znlznl Member Posts: 3
    Went to the dealer in South Florida today and was quoted $25100 +TTL.
    If I was to lease for 36mo 15k with first payment down it would be $369. Is this a good deal?
  • jhinscjhinsc Member Posts: 399
    Went to the dealer in South Florida today and was quoted $25100 +TTL.
    If I was to lease for 36mo 15k with first payment down it would be $369. Is this a good deal?


    How much are financing in the lease? Need more info. My payment with no $ down, 36 mo/15k is $359. But TTL may account for the difference.
  • znlznl Member Posts: 3
    The OTD price was right around $27900. Can't remember the last two numbers...
  • jhinscjhinsc Member Posts: 399
    It appears you have a good deal. :shades:
  • ducky8ducky8 Member Posts: 4
    Hello everyone,

    I found lots of good information in this forum and wanted to post my latest deal. I was turning in my 06 ex V6 (6spd) and went back to the same large dealer in OC California. I ended up with the last 08 silver.

    36 Mo, 12K

    Gross Cap cost - 22,584
    Negotiated cost - 21,989
    Residual - 60%
    MF - .00186 (Tier 1)

    $615.97 drive off

    $310.72 including 7.75% tax.

    The 08's are moving quickly!
  • ducky8ducky8 Member Posts: 4
    This looks like good pricing. CA has set $45 doc fee and title should run about $220

    Approx fees should look like this:

    Doc - 45
    Title - 220
    Tire - 8.75

    I ended up with 615 drive off putting no money down.
  • sfowler22sfowler22 Member Posts: 8
    Is this a good deal? 08 Accord 4 cyl EX-L w/Nav. 36 mo., 15K, $0 down. $410 a month. Sorry, no other info as my wife negotiated w/out me.
  • CarMan@EdmundsCarMan@Edmunds Member Posts: 38,514
    Hi whacked. Here's the information that you're looking for. Honda Finance's current buy rate lease money factor and residual value for a 36 month lease of a 2008 Honda Accord Sedan EX V6 with 12,000 miles per year are .00129 and 59%, respectively for consumers who qualify for its "Super Preferred" credit tier and pay a security deposit at lease signing.

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  • CarMan@EdmundsCarMan@Edmunds Member Posts: 38,514
    Hi jj57. It is difficult for me to calculate a lease payment on the car that you are interested in without knowing what its MSRP and selling price are. So for now I will provide you with its money factor and residual value. Plug them, along with this pricing data into the formula that is outlined in the following article or any lease calculator to come up with an approximate monthly payment, Calculate Your Own Lease Payment.

    Honda Finance's current buy rate lease money factor and residual value for a 36 month lease of a 2008 Accord Sedan EX-L V6 without navigation with 15,000 miles per year are .00129 and 56%, respectively for consumers who qualify for its "Super Preferred" credit tier and pay a security deposit at lease signing.

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  • CarMan@EdmundsCarMan@Edmunds Member Posts: 38,514
    Hi dodgehappy. Given the fact that Honda is not currently providing any cash incentives on it, I find it unlikely that one could get a 2008 4-cylinder Accord for $1,000 under dealer invoice right now. Honda is providing $500 dealer cash on the V6 Accord, that would make such a price more likely...but this cash is not compatible with Honda Finance's special lease program. In a 4-cyl. model, I personally think that a selling price of dealer invoice or slightly over is a much more realistic target. Make sure to hop on over to the "Honda Accord Prices Paid and Buying Experience" discussion for more feedback on Accord pricing.

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  • dodgehappydodgehappy Member Posts: 118
    Thanks for the info! The deal my sister worked on an 08 Accord EX coupe (that she is picking up today) is $250 under invoice, so I will be happy with that since I do hear a lot of talk about being lucky to get a coupe for invoice or better..
  • sfowler22sfowler22 Member Posts: 8
    Update on my earlier post. It is now $400 a month for an 08 Accord 4 cyl EX-L w/Nav. 36 mo., 15K, $0 down. Good deal?
  • CarMan@EdmundsCarMan@Edmunds Member Posts: 38,514
    You're very welcome, dodgehappy. $250 under invoice is a great price on an Accord Coupe right now.

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  • jhinscjhinsc Member Posts: 399
    Update on my earlier post. It is now $400 a month for an 08 Accord 4 cyl EX-L w/Nav. 36 mo., 15K, $0 down. Good deal?

    For comparison, my similar deal for the EX-L V6 w/o nav with a slightly higher msrp came to $359/mo. The rates are lower for V6's than 4-cyl which could account for some but not all the difference.
  • bvdj84bvdj84 Member Posts: 1,724
    Too high!
  • keithdenalixlkeithdenalixl Member Posts: 16
    Does anyone know if the lease deals expiring today are being extended? Thanks. I am looking for Accord EX V6 Sedan.
  • flbuyerflbuyer Member Posts: 11
    Hi,

    Can someone please provide the current lease rates for the following vehicles?

    2008 Accord 2.4 EX-L w/nav and

    2009 Accord 2.4EX-L w/nav

    Thanks...
  • missymmissym Member Posts: 10
    After some back and forth I was able to negotiate this price (for my sister) on an 09 Accord Sedan LX: Lease: 36 months, $1500 down, $278 month, 15k miles a year and 64% residual. (Tier 2 credit score)
    Is this a good deal?
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