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I've been given the following quote. Can you please let me know if this a good deal or if I can do better. Also, when is the best time of the year to purchase a 2007 Murano? I plan on getting one in the next couple of weeks.
Selling price: $32,500
Money factor: 0.00045
Out of pocket: First month + motor vehicle fees
Residual value : 46%
Lease terms: 42 months
Monthly lease pymt with 6% taxes: $516.09
Mileage: 15k/year
Looking forward to your reply.
i am working on leasing a murano sl with sunroof and premium packages with a total of 1500 due at signing. the best the dealer can do is 410/month.
i am also working on him to take the last 4 payments of $359/month on my current lease off my hands.
is that a good deal?
in my best of all scenarios, how can i get into an sl with GPS, still keeping my payments in the mid 400's?
I'm considering leasing a 2007 Nissan Murano SL AWD w/ Touring Package in the Indiana. In one of your previous emails you mentioned that the residual value is 48% but the quotes I received from a few dealers gave 46%.
Can I negotiate them upto 48%?
Are you aware of any latest deals being offered for Muranos with this package?
If my out of pocket expense is just first month and DMV fees can I just focus on bringing down the monthly payments and forget about the other variables e.g. residual value, money factor etc?
Is the end of August the best time to buy or can I wait till the first week of September.
MSRP: ??? $36,610
Selling price: $32,500 $33,491
Money factor: 0.00045 0.00045
First month+DMV: $574.57 $518.30
Residual value $: 46% 46%
Lease terms: 42 42
Mileage 15k/year 15k/year
Mnthly w/ taxes(6%): $516.09 $459.82
If anyone can share their experience with recently leasing a Nissan muranos with the above package I would appreciate any guidance you can provide.
I'm a bit confused with the above quotes seeing that the car with the lower selling price has a higher monthly payment. I tried using the lease calculator in edmunds but I get monthly payments in the $600 range. Not sure what I'm doing wrong.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks
The lease on my '04 Murano expires in Nov so I'm looking at my options. I was in my local no-haggle Nissan dealership (Twin Cities area, MN) today for some maintenance work, and saw they were advertising a lease deal on a 2007 Murano SL (list $36,675), Best Price $32,274.
They are advertising lease payments of $372 + tax for 39 months, 12,000 miles per year, $1995 capitalized cost reductions + first payment license and tax. I didn't have time together to get all the details like Money Factor and residual, but does this seem reasonable? I intend to follow up on this later in the week (to get those other details).
Paid upfront:
897.61 (first month- 443,DMV,Dealer Fee,Doc,Inspection-454)
new york taxes and bank fee rolled in.
39 months/12k miles.
thanks
I'm not carman but let me throw in my two cents anyway...
There are two cardinal rules in leasing (1) ALWAYS establish sell price first and (2) Know how to compute the lease payment. That said, let me give you some methodology or a general framework in which to work. I'm a big believer in educating people and have a very strong academic orientation. I subscribe to the belief that if you take a man fishing, he'll eat for a day; but, if you show a man how to fish, he'll eat for a lifetime.
Check edmunds or kbb for MSRP/Invoice pricing as well as customer/dealer incentives so that you can arrive at a reasonable selling price. In leasing lingo, this is called the agreed upon value. Here are all the piece parts that you'll need...
MSRP
(V) Agreed Upon Value (Sell Price)
(S) Security Deposit Requirement (e.g., Payment w/tax rounded to the next $25 or $50)
(Q) Acquisition Fee/Doc. Fee
(T) Sales Tax Rate and the method your state uses to compute sales tax
(K) Capitalized Cost Reductions (Cash/Trade Credit)
(F) Amounts Financed (capitalized) or rolled into the lease
(M) Cost of Money (i.e., money factor/interest rate)
(R) Residual Value = Residual Factor (%) x MSRP but see 3(b) below
(N) Term (months)
Next, we'll need the following identity...
A = V + F - K
where...
A = Adjusted Capitalized Cost
Now, you're well positioned to compute the payment...
Base Payment (P) = M x (A + R) + (A - R)/N
Most states compute sales tax on the payment streams...
Payment w/tax = P x (1 + T)
Other states, like Ohio, compute sales tax on the total payments. Others, compute payment on the depreciation and, of course, there are those that compute sales tax on the agreed upon value. Sounds as though Indiana computes tax on the payment streams.
Some important things to know...
(1) Money Factor/Interest Rates...
(a) The interest rate can be estimated by multiplying the money factor (0.00XXX) by 2400.
(b) ALWAYS ask for the base rate or what is sometimes called the buy rate. Both mean the same thing. A fund provider's rates have a tiered structure. For example...
0.00150 + 0% reserves (buy rate)
0.00160 + 1% reserves
0.00170 + 2% reserves
etc.
Reserves are similar to points paid for a mortgage loan. For instance, 1% reserves means that the dealer receives compensation from the fund provider in the amount of 1% of the adjusted cap cost (excluding acquisition fee) as a reward for writing the lease at a higher rate. And so, reserves are a potential profit center for dealers. The customer never sees it because the reserves are embedded in the cost of money whether it be in the form of a money factor or an interest rate. If the dealer insists on reserves, I always deduct the dollar equivalent from the sell price.
(c) Most fund providers use a money factor. However, a few (e.g., Ford Credit, GMAC) use an interest rate.
(2) Acq Fees/Doc Fees
(a) Acquisition fees are charged by the fund provider for preparing documents and booking the lease. Doc fees are charged by dealers and are another potental profit center. Be careful, though, some dealers will add a profit margin to the acquisition fee. It's best to call a few dealers and inquire about a given fund provider's acquisition fee. Doc fees should run between $50 and $250.
(3) Residuals
(a) Residuals are fixed by the fund provider and can't be changed or manipulated by the dealer. Accordingly, residuals are non-negotiable. The industry bench mark is the Automotive Lease Guide's (ALG) residual factors. They are the standard by which all others are judged. And so, I would want to know the ALG residual for comparison purposes. Most banks use ALG residuals. However, the finance captives often self insure their residuals and are free to set them as they deem fit.
(b) Dealer add-ons are often not fully residualized because fund providers know that dealers inflate the costs of adds. And so, they'll limit the cost of adds. For example, a dealer installed moon roof retailing for $1800 might be limited to only $1000. And so, a car with an MSRP of $30,000 before the add would have an adjusted MSRP of $31,000 after the add. It is the adjusted MSRP that the residual calculation is based.
(4) Capitalized Cost Reductions
(a) If you can avoid making a down payment, you would be well advised to do so. A car is a depreciating asset. Furthermore, if you total the vehicle, it's not likely that you'll recover all or even a portion of your down payment.
(5) Security Deposits
(a) Some fund providers will waive the security deposit in exchange for a slightly higher money factor. This is usually a bad idea. Others (e.g., BMW), will lower the money factor in exchange for multiple security deposits (MSD's). This can be a very good deal. See the BMW Series 3 forums.
Based on the second set of data that you provided, I'll assume that $33,491 is the sell price and also the adjusted cap (I could be wrong but you didn't provide any details to conclude otherwise). Are you financing (F) anything in this lease and are there any cap reductions (K)? I'm assuming that there are no capitalized items or reductions. Therefore, the base payment is calculated as follows...
P = M x (A + R) + (A - R)/N
= 0.00045 x (33,491 + 16,840.60) + (33,491 - 16,840.60)/42
= 419.09
Payment w/tax = 419.09 x (1.06)
= 444.24
You need to double check your data with the dealer including the money factor, adjusted cap cost, residual value, and term because all of these taken collectively determine the base payment. Apparently, something is missing if the dealer claims that the payment w/tax amounts to $459.82.
At lease origination, you'll pay...
1st payment + tax
Security Deposit
Acquisition Fee (Nissan's is $595)
Dealer Doc Fee (if any)
Tax on any down payment
License, title, fees
As far as waiting til September, it's a gamble because September terms aren't available yet as far as I know. It's likely that the residual will be lower which exerts downward pressure on payment. However, here is a link to Nissan USA's current lease offer good through September 4...
http://www.nissanusa.com/summersalesevent/sse.html?model=murano&intcmp=BLSE.- - - PFA.VLP.BLSE_Offer.Button
Looks as though the money factor and residual used by Nissan are 0.00031 and 51%, respectively, for 39 months.
Suggestion...
Create a one page lease proposal similar to mine found in the Infiniti, Acura TSX, and Mercedes Benz S Class forums. It will save you lots of money, time, and aggravation. The key to negotiating is DON'T. Once you have established the sell price, everything else falls in line. As the
I am looking at purchasing a 2007 Nissan Murano SL AWD w/ Touring Package. My out of pocket expense is first month + DMV fees. Is $449/month which includes 6% taxes a good deal? This is for 15k/year mileage and 42 months term.
Looking forward to your reply.
I just signed a lease and am wondering if it was a good deal. I wish I had come across this site before signing. Can you please let me know if it was a good deal or if I could of done better.
MSRP: $36,980
Selling price: $33,800
Title/Reg/Acquistion/Admin fees: $795
Total Gross Capitalized Cost: $34595
Money factor: ?
Out of pocket: $1500.00
Rebate: $500
Net Trade-In Allowance: $1046
Capitalized Cost Reduction incl trade allowance: $2574.40
Tax on Capitalized Cost Reduction: $71.92
First Month Pymt: $400.68
Total Due at Signing: $3046
Residual value : $18041.80
Lease terms: 39 months
Monthly lease pymt with 7% taxes: $400.68
Mileage: 12k/year
Looking forward to your reply.
Just want to thank you for all of the info you give out in this forum, no doubt it has saved thousands of dollars collectively.
I'm looking to get into an '07 Murano Lease for 39 months with either 12k or 15k miles (undecided on mileage).
A few questions:
1) Do you have September money factor and residuals for
39 month Murano Leases?
2) Any differece in residual with 12k or 15k miles/yr?
3) When I'm negotiating can I factor in the $1500
Cash to Customer Rebate into the deal or is that
only for purchases?
Thanks in advance.
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Once you arrive at a selling price that you are comfortable with, have the dealer calculate your monthly payment using your vehicle's buy rate lease money factor. Nissan's current buy rate for a 39 month lease of a 2007 Murano SL AWD is .00016 with the payment of a security deposit at lease signing.
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I recently recieved the following lease quote on a 2007 Nissan Murano SL Touring package (Leather interior w/ sunroof):
SL Touring / Leather w/ sunroof
$36,980 (MSRP)
$33,767 (Invoice)
$ -500 (cash incentive)
=$31,284
This would be a 42 month lease at 12,000 mi/year = $454/month with $646 due @ signing (first month payment + $192 for title and fees)
Is this a good deal? Or can i do better?
Thanks!
Thanks for the info. I am actually looking at an S Trim level but with FWD. Any difference in residual and money factor for the FWD S as compared to the AWD?
Thanks.
07 Murano SL FWD w/Leather pkg
Lease 15k miles/yr and 39 months
msrp 32 050
invoice 29 380 +destination fee= 30 085
sale price 30 485 - 500 lease rebate = 29 985
down payment 1750
residual 16 025
monthly payment 314 + tax
total drive off: 1750 down payment+tax +595 aqcuisition fee+1st months payment+tax = 2827
Please let me know what you guys think, thanks
2007 Murano S AWD
Lease 15k miles/yr and 39 months
$359/month with nothing out of pocket (fees, etc included into the monthly payments)
I've been to several dealerships in NY/NJ and I'm at the point where I'm tired and frustrated with the whole bait and switch I've been experiencing with dealerships and their ads. You see an ad, call them up, they ask you to come in person, give you some figures over the phone, and give you much higher figures when you get there.
I only started reading up on these forums after being referred here by my brother and I'm trying to educate myself more as far as leasing goes but I'd like some advice/help in the mean time if possible.
Thanks in advance.
2007 Murano S AWD
15k/yeah for 39 months
$355 a month with nothing out of pocket.
I hope I got a good deal considering it's the best terms I was able to get after visiting several Nissan dealerships.
I picked up an 07 Murano S FWD with Convinience package and some other little stuff like cargo net, trunk mat etc. MSRP around $30000,
39 months
12000 miles a year
$200 total cash out of my pocket + $500 rebate (including frist payment and dmv)
so total out of my pocket was $200
payment is $340 + tax.
Is this an ok deal?
Please advise.
I have a credit card hold on an 07 Murano SL AWD with the touring package, sunroof, and some other options like XM. They could not do the dealer trade over the weekend.
MSRP $36,985,
39 months
18000 miles a year
1st payment down only
monthly payment of $515, includes 6% Indiana tax
I have a D-plan discount.
Is this an good deal?
Any comments would be appreciated.
Thanks
I am about to sign the final papers wednesday and I am wondering what type of insurance if any I should be considering from the dealer on the lease. From googling it looks like it may be a good idea to take the gap insurance if it not part of the standard deal. Also, should i consider paying extra for wear and tear chargers for when I return the car in 3 years? Thanks very much for your help.
2007 Nissan Murano SL AWD with Touring Package
$379/mo 12k
0 down
out of pocket: taxes, fees,etc. They told me approx $2500 (is this correct?)
I also recently got a similar deal on a 2007SL AWD Murano with a MSRP of 38700 12k miles on 39months. Payment that I was quoted was 2500 out of pocket and 389 per month.
DOES THIS SEEM LIKE A GOOD DEAL? DEALER SUPPOSE TO CALL ME BACK TONIGHT?
Thanks.
DB
Thank You
Boris
I am in Freehold NJ trying to help my sister lease a 2007. The dealer here is offering this deal;
MSRP: $36,900
SELLING PRICE: 33,558.11
MILES PER YEAR: 12,000
TERM: 39 M0NTHS
DOWN PAYMENT: $4,500 (THAT SEEMS OUTRAGEOUS TO ME)
RESIDUAL: $18,081
MONEY FACTOR: .000330
Now, to the cost they are adding:
INCEPTION FEES: $1968.09
ASSIGNMENT FEE: $595
DOWN PAYMENT TAX: $198.35
PAY-OFF OF TRADES FEE: $895 (MY SISTER DOESN'T ***HAVE*** A TRADE-IN!!!)
After all this nonsense they are stating the total Cap Cost as$32,214.55
MONTHLY PAYMENT $379
Now, just on the surface of it, it seems that my sister is getting the same deal as you guys are, but she is paying $2000 more for it. Also, what is an :Assignmet Fee" and what is included in these "Inception Costs" and does $1968.09 seem reasonable? Where are you guys located? We are in NJ and I need to find her a no-nonsense dealer who will give her a good price. Please help.
Thanks,
David
This does seem like a lot of fees upfront to pay for? Most on this board say never put down a lot of money on a lease for fear of losing it if the car is ever stolen or totalled. Try asking for the money factor from Nissan financial and the residual % as well. Once you have that information go into the following website http://www.leaseguide.com/calc.htm
This should tell you if they're on target or not. I would definately cross check the selling price on Edmunds and/or CarsDirect to see if she's getting the best deal possible.
In terms of my story the dealer that I was doing the deal with left and when we tried calling back we were told that the 2500 down would be in addition to taxes. Again as great as Nissans are I'm not putting down $5K to lease one. We essentially walked away from the table and are currently shopping around. Right now I can do better on an FX per month, based on my calculations, (dealer still needs to confirm).
Fees that I'm looking at on any lease would be state taxes, DMV, Bank Fee and that's it.
Hope this helps.
I'll keep you posted on any additional information that I may get.
Thanks.
DB
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I personally wouldn't make the $1,750 capitalized cost reduction though. I always advise consumers against making down payments when leasing. Those who make them risk losing them if their vehicle is totaled in an accident or stolen and never recovered. Even though your monthly payment will be slightly higher, you would be better off going with a zero down lease.
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The best way to negotiate a good deal on a leased vehicle is to negotiate as low a selling price as possible on the vehicle that you want and then have the dealer calculate your monthly payment using its buy rate lease money factor. If I was interested in leasing a 2007 Nissan Murano right now I personally would shoot for a selling price of a couple hundred dollars over dealer invoice and then have the $500 cash incentive subtracted from that, putting the actual capitalized cost at or slightly below dealer invoice. Nissan's current buy rate lease money factor for a 39 month lease of an '07 Murano S AWD is .00033.
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I personally would pass on the excess wear and tear coverage unless you are very hard on your vehicles. I have found that most manufacturers' captive finance companies are pretty reasonable when evaluating the lease-end condition of cars and trucks.
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The "assignment fee" is probably Nissan Motor Acceptance Corp.'s acquisition fee. NMAC charges a $595 acquisition fee on every vehicle that it leases.
The money factor that your sister was quoted is right in line with NMAC's current buy rate for a 39 month lease of this model. This is a good sign. Furthermore, $3,300 is a very reasonable discount for an '07 Murano SL AWD right now. The main problem with this deal is all of the fees. The "assignment fee" is OK, but what is includes in the "inception fees" and what the heck is the "pay-off trades" fee if your sister isn't even trading anything in?
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Another David responding.
First Month payment: Fine
Bank/Assignment Fee: One in the same ~$595 okay with that.
DMV Fee: Okay on that
Tax: We all have to pay unfortunately
Security Deposit: Not sure but you should be able to have this waived or your first month payment acts as a security deposit. They should be double dipping.
Tire Tax Fee: Think you can negotiate that this shouldn't be passed along to the consumer.
Doc fee: What's this? I think they're reaching here.