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Thank you kindly.
Also watch your RPMs. I would expect them to be around 2000 at 65 or so--varies by car, but I recall some Sonata owners reporting 1800 RPM at 60, so 2000 at 65 sounds about right. If it's much over that, the car is likely not in 6th gear.
And as someone else suggested, you can take the car on a longer highway stint, resetting the average mpg meter when you get to highway cruising speed. Pick a day that isn't too cold or windy, with dry roads. (And drive the road in both directions to negate effects from hills and wind.) Find a stretch of road that isn't too hilly and where you don't need to stop or even change speed. Stick to the speed limit, and put the cruise on to rule out "lead foot" by the driver. If the speed is 65 mph or less, I would be very surprised if that test doesn't return at least mid-30s mpg. If it still gets mid-to-upper-20s even under those conditions, I would suspect something amiss with the car. FWIW, I can easily get mid-30s on my 2007 Sonata under conditions like that, and its powertrain is not nearly as efficient as the 2011 Sonata's.
I am disappointed and feel the advertising is just so false and if I did not lease this car, it would be gone at these 3 months that I have had it.
I agree with you about the fact that there are bigger cars that do better with MPG.
Thanks for your reply..
Usually the computer indicates an average speed of 30 miles per hour when I fill up...I reset it at every fill up. So my commute isn't all that "efficient", but I am very pleased wth my gas mileage.
I took an extended highway trip at an average speed of 65mph and easily achieved 32mpg over the course of 200 miles.
The other night I filled up on the way home from work, and after driving 15 miles home the computer showed an average of 38 miles per gallon, and an average speed of 36mph.
I keep the ECO light on as much as possible. My early build 2011 doesn't have the "Active ECO" feature of the mid-year and newer Sonatas. I just have the ECO light that lets you know if you are driving economically. The car is geared such that you should be able to easily drive 95% of all traffic situations with the light illuminated and not feel like the car is bogging down or not keeping up with traffic.
I find the car to be meeting my expectations with regards to fuel economy. Incidentally, my engine air filter was noticeably dirty a couple weeks ago. I rotated the filter so the clean part of the filter was over the air inlet, and fuel economy has increased 10% over the past couple of tanks of gas. This car seems to be very sensitive to engine air filtration.
The airbox in this car isn't the best design. The filter area over the inlet gets dirty, but the other half of the filter stays perfectly clean. You can basically just rotate the filter to get the clean side over the inlet and keep running the filter until that side gets dirty.
I will post what they say. Sad thing is, the service guys said they have NEVER heard of a car ( at all) getting 35 mpg. If you would like to call them and just tell them you are not getting 35mpg on your sonata..they will say the same to you. I am more angry at that, than anything. These guys service Hyundai's for a living. Anyone who watches TV will see the advertising. They told me not to believe what I see on TV.
I appreciate all replies..thank you.
And another possibility is weather. When you measured 20-21 mpg over 3 months, it was the dead of winter. Now, maybe it's warming up where you live (it is where I live)? I've noticed a big mpg penalty in cold (below 30 or so) weather vs. warmer weather... especially if tire pressure isn't adjusted to compensate.
Neither Hyundai nor ANY other manufacturer determines the official EPA fuel economy numbers posted on the window sticker. All they do is design the car to fufill a very large number of requirements. Among many (engine performance , NHV, safety, styling, hot and cold environment performance, quality, reliability, price point, etc...etc...etc) is good fuel economy. The car is submitted to the EPA for standardized testing. It is they who determine the numbers that are posted on that window sticker. Hyundai, like all manufacturers will absolutely capitalize on good numbers and use those EPA derived numbers in their advertising like any good company.
Exactly what job puts you into contact with 30 or more people broken down on the road daily? Tow driver, AAA person??? In any case, although I travel the Pa Turnpike weekly, and have for approx the last 5 years driving about 150 miles in each direction (west then returning east), also I-81 in Pa to a large degree I almost NEVER see a broken down car anymore and the ones I do see are 10-15 year old beater looking...dented and dirty like nobody cared. I frankly have seldom if ever have seen a new car, Hyundai or otherwise, along any road I travel. Besides how can you determine the amount of maintenance (if any) bestowed on those cars or how many miles they had or even the reason they are along the road ...flat tire? out of gas? driven without oil until they puke? So, if you are inferring that Hyundai is prone to more frequent breakdowns than others (Honda?) I would have to strongly disagree. For the record we own a 2006 Civic EX sedan bought new and it required new rear shocks by 2,000 miles (both leaked out) AND a new front driver seat cover before 8,000 miles due to the fact the original wore thin. Also, since I was unable to get the car in to have that cover replaced when it was originally scheduled (the dealer was holding the cover until I could reschedule) when I finally got it in the parts department was unable to find "my" cover. I was eventually told they had used it to recover another customers car with the same problem and they reordered it for me. So, at least two cars at this one dealership with the same problem. Honda is on a slide quality wise in my experience. Ours had a certain amount of "un-Hondalike" problems so I'm not up on Honda too much or their so-called great track record. I almost forgot the "extended warranty" info. Honda recently sent me (after much poor publicity about cracked engine blocks on 2006-08 Civics and the hoops Honda America had owners with the problem jump through e.g. provide proof of all Honda scheduled maintence at the dealership even though this crack developed due to poor casting and/or flawed design by Honda and nothing at all to do with customer oil changes, tire rotation and the like. Proven track record indeed!!!
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I contend with hills each day, and literally 24 lights and 7 stop signs, on my 30 mile drive to work. I have no problem getting 28mpg.
I don't know why people do it. A desire to feel superior? To make others feel bad? I don't know, but it's weird to be sure.
The unrealastic 'low/bad' numbers are probably put on there by competing car company employees who are trying to create some brand smearing and create traffic in their own showrooms. the, 'high/unbelievable' numbers are probably from Trolls who love to sit back and watch the forum degnerate into Keyboard Wars from posters from both camps.
So, in using "Find a Car" or other such lists of user mpg's I think it's wise to cut off the highest number posted, and then do the same to the lowest and do your own Avg of the rest.
One of the worst Gas Guzzler cars I have ever owned is our 2007 Nissan Versa SL with the CVT powertrain but when I have posted my low mpg numbers on the Versa mpg Forum, I am immediately met by Versa FanBoys who are claiming 10 to 20% over even the inflated old window sticker numbers posted before the tests got more stringent and lowered everyones mpg rating by at least 3 to 6 %
There are things about that little car I still love, buy mpg's ain't one of them!
So Hyundai buyers, don't do as I did, (I ordered one special built) do a mpg test on the actual car you are interested in buying BEFORE you give the dealer ship your depost and sign the contract.
If it sucks gas like a gravel truck, jump in another one and go again. After 2 or 3 of these road tests you will get a reading about the mpg's that will probably be the best bench mark you will ever have.
I would shop around a few different dealerships and try the mpg test for this part of the buying process just to get a better idea of why some might be better or worse than others...(brand of gas would probably be different in each, some might have a few more test flight miles on it than the other) and so on.
Just make sure you duplicate the same route exactly, hit the reset button at the same spot, and make a note of any other factor that comes into the test drive....was the salesperson in the backseat an Ex Sumo Wrestler, was the wind howling from the front, or side, was the temp cold or warm ... dial in the cruise and let er run for at least 10 or 20 min at freeway speed.
YOu will get the best highway mpgs on this test run that the car is capable of, and know, once and for all, what to expect once you have it home in your driveway and the payments begin.....then you will avoid forever, forums like this.
I have no reason to lie or "deceive". 28MPG on E10 is what I average on a regular basis. My car runs 5W-20 oil from the dealer, and I keep the tires at 34psi. The ECO function is also very beneficial to maximizing fuel mileage in these cars.
No need to attack others or accuse them of being deceitful just because they are reporting real world numbers that differ from yours.
There was conjecture in the forum that those of us getting 28+ mpg must be driving on flat terrain with a low amount of lights. My response was to clarify my personal experience with more details of my driving conditions.
There is no malicious intent when people comment they are getting a certain mileage number. It appears the fuel economy issue is a sensitive subject for some people, and positive comments are being taken the wrong way.
I am sorry that your Sonata is not meeting your expectations from a fuel economy standpoint. My 2011 Sonata has been disappointing for me in other areas and I by no means "love" the car, but it has met all of my expectations with regards to fuel economy.
For what it is worth, an associate at work rented a 2011 Sonata and complained of not being able to get more than 18MPG. When I relayed my personal experience with mine, he conceded that he was driving the car hard and only driving 3 miles to and from his hotel. He further stated that if he had driven it more sanely and had a longer commute he would have probably seen better numbers.
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I also didn't say I'm not happy with my Sonata's mileage. What I've found is that some gas stations give greatly different results than others (not enough to account for some of the MPG reports I've seen others post, though). I don't know yet if it's due to ethanol content, improper (i.e. exaggerated) gas pump readings, or what. The first few times I calculated MPG, I was disappointed. The most recent time, however, I was pleased.
Over the life of a car, these inconsistencies will even out, but if FE is measured over a relatively short time span, it could make a difference.
E10 is gasoline with 10% ethanol content. The federal government is pushing to make E15 the norm over the next few years. That is something we do not want to happen regardless of what the EPA claims.
The only thing I'd say is that I do better if I put my vehicle on cruise control.
However, with regard to what you might view as over-the-top questions/comments, you would be stunned at what some people do, or don't realize they do, and then are surprised by the results. Don't take it personally.
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I just returned from a 3800 mile trip though 6 U.S. states and found my mpg's on the Honda Odyssey would swing wildly from 23.2 to 16.8 on the same day after fillups from different stations.
We used to get great mpgs and lots of power from Chevron regular, and now we find all their stations have switched to Ethanol blend and my great Chevron gas mpgs dropped through the floor.
With Ethanol Blend gas from Chevron the Odyssey now drives like a loaded lumber truck!
The oil companies and Govt. must love the stuff as it kills your milage and speeds up your next fillup least 50 miles sooner.
More spent of gas and more fuel taxes to the bottomless Govt money Pit. WOW everybody wins!
Those with mostly highway miles are posting 27 to 28's just like your experience.
I wish all those on these mpg forums would post their numbers on the fueleconomy.gov site as it's a great place to get the newest numbers good and bad, without all the drama and personality clashes from forum posters.
It's easy to use and gives you the option of posting for mpgs from years back on just about any car ever built. You will find the most numbers posted on the vehicles that people expect the best mpgs from, and the least numbers from the most expensive exotic models.
I guess it's the old spin of, "if you can afford to buy it , then you don't care how much gas it uses"...with gas on its way up again, even that might change soon.
You seem to prefer AWD, so the Sonata doesn't seem like a good fit for you.
Car feels like it holds back-any suggestions on this? I am getting oil changed this week as I hit 3k miles.
Weird thing happened to me this past week.
I filled my tank with regular Hess gas. I wasn't even across the street to the highway ramp when the MPG soared up to almost 33 mpg. I then went the 5 miles home on the highway and was up to 46.5 mpg average!
I was on cloud nine.
I have not seen that since. I drive the same exact way each day, never go over the 64 mph and often can use cruise.
Should I try the oil you recomended??
Your only true mileage will not be the computer reading but actually filling up and dividing miles driven by gallons used on each tank.
Was looking at buying a 2011 Elantra but found with rebates and easier nego I could close the gap between an Elantra and Sonata to within $1500 or so (it is hard to get much of a savings on teh 2011 Elantra in Toronto, Canada at the moment).
However the discussion on fuel econ is giving me great pause. I'm moving on from my 2006 Honda Civic and the EnerGuide estimates seemed too good to be true (the same HWY fuel econ as Civic but about 15% worse in the city).
My timing just sucks blah.
When reducing the speed to around 70 mph the mpg went up to slightly above 34, and some of the drive was with Eco drive on.
The tank is big - the gas light seems to come on when you hit the 30 miles remaining mark, and when i filled up around 20 miles after that light came on, 17.7 gallons were pumped into the tank. the 34.3 or so mpg i got after 150 miles of straight highway driving is now down to around 29 after an additional 160 miles of city/hwy driving. let's see what the final mpg is on this tank....
This past weekend, I drove from Dallas down to Austin, TX staying around 72 mph and it average around 32.8 mpg. During the return trip, I kept my speed at around the same 72mph and the car averaged 38.7 mpg which is awesome. I also tried to avoid heavy acceleration and used the cruise control as much as possible.
For some reason, the trips heading North back into Dallas on I-35 always produce better MPG. The wind usually blows out of the SE this time of year. I think it may be a factor.