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1) I owned a 2002 Elantra auto 5 door hatchback for four years (50,000 miles). I measured the mileage on close to one hundred tank fulls (I checked it at least 4 out of 5 times I filled it). I averaged around 27-28 MPG on my normal go to work 5 days a week, use the car on the weekend driving.
2) A year ago I totaled it in a rear end collision & bought a 2006 Elantra 5 speed. I kept the car for 13,000 miles. I checked the mileage four out of every five tankfulls over the same route. I averaged 29-31 MPG.
3) Two weeks ago I traded in the Elantra for a 2007 I4 Auto GLS Sonata. I checked the mileage on the first 2 tank fulls:
tank 1: When I got the car from the dealer the gauge showed full. I got 29+ with the first tank which included the first 60 miles non stop on a freeway.
tank 2: I averaged 27 mpg for 333 miles.
Please note that for every mileage calculation I would divide the miles on the trip odometer (which I would reset after a fill up) by the amount of gallons in the fill up. Please note that I drove the same route these last 5 years.
I'm amazed at this mileage!! Please note that if anything I felt I was driving at least as fast and possibly faster in the Sonata as the Elantra.
Bank drive-in windows and stopping 3 or 4 minutes for road construction undoubtedly reduced MPG, but that's what average MPG is all about.
It is also very slow to start. I had the battery replaced as it had a bad cell in it.
The car is still slow to start, as if it is cold.
I live in Phoenix, AZ and the car is not cold! Could it be an electrical problem?
I want to sell the car as my previous car was a Honda that got 28+MPG.
Also the leather seats in AZ need covers and I am told I can not use any seat covers due to the airbags. Any advise?
Any advise for me?
Thanks!
Joy
Kidding aside, something doesn't sound right. You should not be getting only 14.4 mpg, not even if 100% stop and go traffic. The Sonata NF real world mpg averages about low-to-mid 20s local and high 20s highway, with a mixed mpg generally in the mid-to-high 20s. One of my neighbors' has constantly achieved mid 20s in town and 30s highway for a combined high 20s mpg.
Here is MPG of my 2006 Sonata LX V6.
33 mpg @ 65 mph; 29 mpg @ 75 mph when temperature around 60 - 80 F.
Average 26 mpg for 30% local and 70% highway.
On 3/17 at about 2:30 PM we were heading back to Tempe from Chandler and there was a huge traffic jam on I-10 near Queens Creek Rd.
The main local roads in the area we stayed were also very heavy traffic. Basleine, South Prince and other "main" local roads. Those stop lights every couple blocks in heavy traffic just suck the gas out of your tank.
never on freeways.
This is during break-in period. Total mileage so far 400.
I can set my cruise to 65, clear the trip computer, and it sits on 31-32mpg forever. I think that's very good mileage for such a wide, tall, heavy vehicle. Other vehicles that get better mileage are sacrificing somewhere.
It has 3500km now. The only complain is click/pop noises on the dash when the AC is on, probably due to temperature change. I think the chassis could be a bit stronger.
That's probably why it appeared 'stuck'. You just had a long-built average, which will not perceptibly change over a short-term observation under any reasonable driving conditions. If you had 1000km worth of average mileage built up, your next 5 or 10km of driving could be pedal to the metal or coasting with the engine shut off, and neither would change the average by more than 0.1 km/l, if even that.
I am looking to pass the 2,000km and first Oil change to have more realistic idea about this new car.
Car is 10 months old & has 36,000 miles on it with nothing other than oil/filter changes (5w30) & tire rotations.
I reset the computer once doing 65 in a construction zone and watched it climb to 36 so this again is in line.
San Francisco to San Bernadino on I-5 @65-70mph: 33.77
San Bernadino to Palm Springs, then on to Sierra Vista via I-10 @70-75mph: 31.04
Actual mileage tooling around on Sierra Vista urban streets: 24.16
Driving extensively in Tucson on main thoroughfares, up some steep hills to a state park, down the freeway to Nogales (a mistake), 2 hours and 40 minutes idling to get back across the border, coming back to Tucson via Patagonia: 26.99
Flagstaff to St. George Utah on 65mph two-lane highway with a couple of 6000 ft. summits: 36.41
St. George to Las Vegas (generally 75mph), a little urban driving there, then to Bakersfield: 32.31
From 0 miles (actually 9) to date, I have traveled 8138miles which includes aprx 2000mi hghwy,(indicating 26.2mpg @ 70+mph) otherwise "suburban"miles. In FL, because of heat & humidity I keep the A/C on. My to date mileage for overall appears to be: 19.8 mpg, figured by actual math, not the computer. Considering the vehicle size, etc. (2006 Sonata LX) I guess this is acceptable, although I was really hoping for better. (I know, some people are never happy.) I seem to see the mileages getting ever so slightly better with every tank, that is why I decided to look at it from the beginning.
van
I think the only way to get the advertised 30 mpg is driving at 60mph but Im not complaining about 27 at high speeds. Mileage aside, the car is terrific for trips, comfortable and easy to drive, very sure footed in panic stops or rainy roads.
BTW when we post mpg's it would be nice to know year and engine size.
It is, however, very painful to drive this way. The engine feels like it is not in it's happy place, and everyone on the road is passing you. As smooth as the Hyundai is, it feels like you could walk faster. After a while of this, it is easy to enter a trance /dream state, where you can almost hear the insane asylum happy music from "One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest" playing in your head.
Basically, as much fun as eating soup with a fork. On the other hand, driving like everyone else at 75 to 80 mph still nets me 27.5 to 28.5 mpg. Driving 65 and getting 30 mpg is possible, but it is too painful, and just not worth it.
Fuel economy is one issue, safety is another. Speed kills. Many studies have found correlation of high speed to increased fatalities.
For example, I know one study that compared states with speed limits above 65mph to states with 55mph in the early 90s. They found that the odds of deaths in crashes increased from 30% to 100% involving collisions. Just be aware that high speed "fun" driving carries a non-negotiable price tag.
I also agree that driving the Hyundai at speeds of 75-80 has a very good feel to it.
Don't be a turtle and don't be a kamakazzie zigging and zagging to get a car length or two ahead. Steady speed is good for MPG and for not causing accidents.
Sunday of Labor Day weekend I was coming back on I-95 on what is normally a 45 to 50 minute drive. Traffic was heavy (thankfully no accidents) but the drive was an hour and a half. Idiots were pulling into rest areas so they could immediately merge back into traffic, which only lead to additional delays for everyone trying to drive like a sane person. These a-holes really screwed up the traffic flow, just so they could jump about 1/4 mile ahead of other cars.
If I drive 65 mph, I only get 34 MPG, and at 75 mph, I only get 30. But at 55 mph, it's a complete different story here. I gain about 11-16 MPG more. When driving 55 mph on long distance trip (with people honking at me), I watched the fuel guage a lot and it barely goes down or takes forever to drop.
I get almost 750 miles from full to empty in one tank when driving 55 mph constantly. One time, the trip from San Francisco, CA to Los Angeles, CA while driving 55 mph with A/C turned off, and it only reached from full to halfway at the end the trip. I think this is incredible.
Can someone please confirm if this is truely rare, or am I the first person in the world to notice that Hyundai's Theta engine can easily go up to 50 MPG HWY by driving 55 mph on a flat road with A/C turned off and windows shut and nothing is loaded in the trunk. Is it better than a Toyota Camry I4 and Honda Accord I4?
Someone needs to try this one time. Thanks for your help.
I feel that the A/C, which is a great unit, takes away 3 to 4 MPG when it is quite hot and running a lot. In my part of the country, from June to about this time of year, it gets used a lot. It is so quiet and smooth(can't tell when it engages and disengages)that I thought it was not effecting my millage when I first got the car in June 2006. But after using it quite a bit I found out the info above.
I just say if you quote 20 mpg city and 30 mpg highway you will almost always get better millage than this with the I-4 auto.
Sounds like the new 2008 is even better. GOOD! :shades:
Yes, I get around 37 MPG when driving 60 mph with A/C turned off. You may get 45 MPG if driving 55 mph instead. So, if I get 45-50 MPG, what's the point in buying a Toyota Camry Hybrid.
Combined driving isn't as fuel efficient as I think. I only get 400 miles max in one tank, which includes local (stop and go), and highway speed at 70 mph.
70 and up the mileage gets worse.
I have a 2007 4 cyl stick.