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2007 Chevrolet Silverado and GMC Sierra - First Impressions
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Did you place this post on a Toyoyo site, too. I'm sure they'd love to see it.
oh and,
"good luck on this one now!"
GM's "We examined everything...We overlooked nothing" motto is a crock of total bull SH.T. This is standard General Motors SCREW THE CUSTOMERS, TO HELL WITH THE CUSTOMER behavior.
My truck is a rolling problem of defects, screwups, botched design, remarkable poor paint/missing paint and MISERABLE build "quality." Anyone foolish enough to consider buying a GM vehicle after seeing what I, an American consumer am going through at the treacherous hands of GM, is going to have rocks in their head. I am finished with this disgraceful corporation and their deceptive, deceitful business conduct and grossly inferior vehicles. There is NO INTEGRITY AT GENERAL MOTORS. And you can rely on that!~!! This has been my experience and my ultimate conclusion based on the terrible way I have been treated by GM.
GM is a fraud, a promise unkept, a commitment broken. To the American consumer: beware of this low life corporation and its treacherous practices. CAVEAT EMPTOR GM!
Actually, GM does not have zone managers anymore. They created a remote customer service operation that supposedly acts on the customers behalf. They are remote and the amount of assistance they provide was marginal if anything.
I have been to the only three closest dealers within 40 miles.
I'd re-enact this move with a video camera and put it on YouTube, maybe a lawyer would love to take that case.
Sounds to me like you've got a perfect lemon law case, I'd pursue it... not a moment too soon. My experience has been to the extreme opposite with my truck and I absolutely love it, and I picked it apart on the showroom floor, knew what I was getting myself into. Hopefully next time you'll do the same. Best of luck! Schlog
In lieu of buyback (which I didn't really want since I had over $10K of mods in the truck), GM offered their Major Guard "bumper to bumper" no deductible 5/100 extended warranty for free (worth around $2500).
If I were you, I'd devote your time in doing the research and file your complaint here:
http://lemonlaw.bbb.org/
You may want to check what's required under your state's lemon law as it varies from state to state.
Live is too short...dump it and for goodness sakes don't buy a Tundra.....
Two points:
1. Today I was forced to take off from work and drive to the selling GM dealer to have them look at my A/C AGAIN, which periodically was not blowing cold but stagnant warm air in the 95 degree high humidity heat we had.
2. While they had the truck, I walked over to the Toyota dealer and priced a Tundra Ltd. This particular dealer who saturates the TV with ads screaming 'we will beat all prices' gave me a price which was straight list. The manager stated that he is "selling a Toyota and not some American truck." I laughed so hard I almost gagged. Needless, to say, I told him that there are plenty of other dealers willing to sell at discount and left.
When I got back to my dealer, they told me they could not fix the A/C but on Wednesday, a specialist would be at the dealership and so I will once again have to take off work and appear at the dealership for them to play mechanic with the truck once again.
I thank you for you kind suggestions and link.
What is galling me is how GMC dealership has acknowledged all the problems and admits they exist. However, GMC customer support has the audacity to tell me that all these problems (like the A/C that blows warm, stinking air in hot 98 degree humid weather, the transmissions many problems, the unintended acceleration while braking, clunking steering column, suspension vibrations, loud thumping rear end, etc.) are all within "NORMAL OPERATING PARAMETERS OF THIS GM VEHICLE." IN other words, GM flat out refuses to formally acknowledge any defects and problems and MAGICALLY defines all problems and failures as normal opertion for this vehicle. This is such a travisty of honor, such a breach of trust, such a total load of miserable disrepectful, dishonoring treatment of a customer. Think I am over reacting? Wait till it happens to YOU!
I am cancelling my extended GM warantee contract since I will never use it. The regular warantee is TOTALLY WORTHLESS so the expensive extended warantee is doubly worthless. They are literally unable and helpless to make repairs on these vehicles. The technology and intracasies of the systems are totally beyond them. I have now been to three dealerships and it is the same with all of them.
I pity the poor bastards who will buy these GM vehicles because they haven't a clue as to what they ALL will be in for at the treacherous hands of General Motors. My painful experiences are indicative of what owning and dealing with GM is really like. No bull, just fact. "You can lead a horse to water but you sure cannot make'm drink"
Interior and exterior Fit and trim, power and all the looks of admiration that come with the purchase of this fine vehicle has garnered even more admiration of this fine truck.
I am grateful of this forum to allow myself to express my happiness. Excellent forum - very informative, correctly maintained. Kudos to you the admins!!!
I purchased my Truck from, Criswell Chevy in Gaithersburg, MD. From start to finish my the GM slaes reps provided all the info I needed. After much time and careful consideration I went ahead with a well thought out mindset to purchase this truck as opposed to a Toyota tundra (just didnt live up to my expectations). My sales rep called me and asked if everything was going well with the truck- I did have a error message for a airbag system which was easily corrected with my first service call.
So happy to have invested time in a dealership that cares and honors my needs. It really pays off think about your purchase and the individuals involved in a fine purchase like this.
Im buying air intakes and some minor add-ons to jazz up the look of my truck. Doesnt need much to look even better. I might be sounding too happy with this, but if you consider the plain fact that this truck is extremely well built. You have to agree with he countless other positive reviews of those that dont make careless purchase decisions.
I will be persuing all necessary and appropriate actions until I ultimately succeed.
It is unfortunate that such a handsome vehicle should suffer so many major defects. When you purchase a new vehicle these days, with global competition, you expect a new extremely high level of reliability and build integrity (especially at these stratospheric $50,000 truck prices!)
This was not the case with my vehicle. But the eye opening revelationary disappointment concerned GM's total inability and impotence in their attempts to make necessary repairs.
All is smooth sailing if you are fortunate to have a truck that works or you are the type of person that isn't sufficiently aware/knowledgeable to recognize a defective system or failing mechanism. Many people drive around with worn out brakes or burned out lights, wobbling wheels or low oil pressure and notice nothing. However, if you do have vehicle problems and seek genuine warantee repair, GM service certainly appears and has proven to be an exceedingly poor resource.
Got 17.6 mpg overall, but that was with lots of 80 mph highway with the a/c on, and a few 95 mph bonzai passes around slow tractors & trucks. During several long stretches at 65 mph, got a whopping 19.4 mpg from my 6.0L. Hard to believe that so much power could give such good economy. 80 mph in the Silverado feels like 55 in my two previous Toyotas.
My only disappointment so far is that the truck should come with splash guards at all four corners. You know the kind -nice molded/fitted guards. If anyone knows if these are available now, please post the info.
Other than that, I love the truck so far.
1offroader
However, the apparently impressive mpg reading is virtually meaningless in real world terms where it always averages down to about 14.7 mpg. All local driving drags it down to a miserable 12.8 mpg. Filling up two times a week with premium $3.29 fuel has gotten old, FAST.
Also recognize, once the 'halo' effect wears off you and the new truck, you will surely drive it harder and faster thus realizing far lower gas mileage. That is normal human behavior.
You can easily get artificially high readings in a very short term and at a constant specific speed. Fuel is mainly expended moving from zero mph up to your intented speed (acceleration factor). Cruising is the most economical mode of motion. However, in today's world, it is frequently impossible to cruise with heavy traffic and local stop and go.
Other variables can seriously effect your mpg. If you prudently and safely draft a large 18 wheeler van at highway speed and take a mpg reading and then change lanes so you are not following anything and take another fresh reset mpg reading. You'll be amazed at how much more fuel is consumed fighting the wind. Any bicycle ride into the wind will also make this abundantly clear.
They are a GM accessory.
My bud (who works at a GM dealer) scammed a set for his
new ride so I have no idea how much $$ they cost.
They fit nice along the contours on the fender edges.
for those of us who only have DIC by way of the push button in between the guages, which is rediculously limited, this mod is cheap and adds the access that GM really should have just put in the new trucks as a standard feature. here is a link to the topic and includes links to where to buy the part for a whole whopping 80 bucks........takes a whole 5 minutes to install too.
http://www.gm-trucks.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=63291&hl=DIC
My Silverado has a constant mpg mode - it has the Active Fuel Management, and there is a mode in the DIC that shows real time fuel mileage.
BTW the 6.0L engine uses (and likes) the cheapest regular (87 octane) that I can put in it. I wouldn't own a truck that required premium. There are places I go where your choice is regular, or nothin'.
1offroader
1offroader
Thank you for your input....I live in Michigan and I just got gas for $3.05 and then mixed with $2.85 E85 just for saving in the pocket. I do use the cruise...it is the only way to go. The city driving just kills us but on the expressway up north every weekend makes it worth while to go. But the E85 what a joke.....you do not save.....The environment well I am all for green but it should cost the manufacturer not you and me! I am still looking for feedback about add ons to help with gas mileage? Any info or sites would be greatly appreciated.
Andrew
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$55,000! And the dealer told me there was nothing wrong with the transmission. I almost got killed this am on the Katy Freeway in Houston, Texas because when I pulled out and accelerated, the big D didn't go anywhere, just bogged down. Gas mileage is 13.8 in city driving and 16.9 on the highway under 75 mph. The fit and finish of my unit is very good. It's just this crazy transmission that won't go when I want to go and will go when I try to stop. Seems like GMC has a problem.
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#574 of 574 Re: 2007 Yukon Denali still MORE PROBLEMS [snake3] by skytop1 Jul 30, 2007 (4:28 pm)
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I cannot believe what you have stated in your post! My piece of inferior crap Sierra Denali does the exact same thing and does not accelerate or shift correctly!!!
Also Snake3, you will unfortunately become frustrated with the standard GM corporate reply to your serious defects and problems with the phrase "your vehicle is operating within normal parameters." They will routinely deny the existence of defects and problems while you suffer with them. They keep stating this worn out phrase which serves to incite and ignite pure disrespect and loathing disgust toward GM and their little minions. They spawn and actually ferment customer alienation. They don't have a clue how to treat their valuable customer or regard them. Their methods are tantamount to a tragic and vile corporate policy. They are committing business suicide.
My GMC Sierra Denali junk truck is now in for its sixth major service repair. One of the major issues is the symptom of depressing the gas to modestly accelerate and the engine RPM's ACTUALLY DECREASE!!!! Yes, pressing on the gas causes the engine to slow down. You can hear the motor bog and see the tach drop about 300 to 400 RPM's. To make this TURD move you absolutely have to STOMP on the gas and hope the transmission finds the right gear. My transmission will upshift and downshift rapidly searching for a correct gear to use. Meanwhile, nothing is happening in the speed department.
This truck is a TOTAL DISGRACE and ROTTEN EXCUSE for a "world class" vehicle. I am so disgusted and livid at GM AND their virtually useless and in fact UNTRAINED mechanics. The "tranny specialist" assigned to my truck told me on the initial diagnosis test drive that my truck was the first 6 speed model he ever saw or worked on. I asked if GM had provided special training for the new 6 speed and he said no they had not. And you wonder why GM mechanics cannot deal with the new technology or fix vehicles? You can become nauseous watching this kind of gross ineptitude in action at the GM dealership.
I totally regret ever hearing the name General Motors or GMC.
General Motors is a JOKE, a humiliation and a tragic example of what was once mighty but now is humiliated and disgraced by their own ineptitude and incompetance. Maybe some lucky people are not having problems with their vehicles or don't even know if there are defects but that is all cold comfort to the multitude of those suffering and victimized by the corporate treachery, half baked engineering designs and maladroitness of the service department.
gregC
Then, there are the intangibles - interior comfort, looks, warranty, pride of ownership, etc. It is hard, if not impossible, to put a price tag on them but that doesn't mean they have no value.
I tend to buy new vehicles, and keep them for a loooong time. That way, I get the initial 'thrill' of the new vehicle, and I know what kind of maintenance it has (always excellent), and the depreciation doesn't kill me because it's amortized over many years of ownership.
Your results may vary.
Good luck on whatever choice you make.
1offroader
Again, best of luck on your decision.
dwyerchevy07
I almost went the way of Toyota the new Tundra looking so beefy and strong, Glad I didn't. The interior was a disappointment, and didn't match GM's fine remodel.
My '07 Silverado was purchased with a years worth of review and investigation prior to purchase and I couldn't be happier.
I even went thru 3 dealerships wading thru the myriad of purchase decisions they had to offer. I went back to the original dealership to a friend that gave me the best advice from the get go.
I'm currently (finally) decking out the truck with the add-ons that I want to customize the look of my truck.
I'm checking out Stepbars and retractable bed covers. Does anyone have any suggestions in these two areas. I'm about ready to get the truck line-X'd.
I tend to like the GM dealership stepbar, has a nice look but I am not sure of the longterm wear that it will endure (not sure if it is chrome overlay or actual polished steel)
Any suggestions on owners that have specific models they like or dislike is appreciated.
Wed Aug 1, 7:07 PM ET
DETROIT - The Detroit automakers' share of the U.S. market dropped below 50 percent in July for the first time in history, according to two analysts who track industry numbers.
Jesse Toprak, senior analyst for the Edmunds.com automotive Web site, and Jeff Schuster, executive director of global forecasting for J.D. Power and Associates, each said that foreign-based automakers took more than half the U.S. market for the first time, citing sales data released by the companies Wednesday.
Autodata Corp., an industry sales tracking company, pegged the market share controlled by Chrysler Group, Ford Motor Co. and General Motors Corp. at 49.5 percent including foreign nameplates they own such as Saab, Volvo, Land Rover and Jaguar.
Excluding the foreign nameplates, Detroit's market share drops to 48.1 percent, Autodata said.
The market share drop came during a month in which all major automakers but Nissan Motor Co. saw sales declines.
GM sales dropped 22.3 percent when compared to a strong July of 2006, while Ford declined 19.1 percent and Chrysler fell 8.4 percent. Even Toyota Motor Corp., which had been posting strong gains most of the year, reported a decline of 7.4 percent after a record-setting July of last year.
'Nuff said.
- Bedlocker Electric Tonneau Top w/ Explorer Rails
- 4" Oval GM Chrome Steps
- Line-X Bedliner
- Cargo Management Toolbox & Divider
After extensive research, I opted for the Bedlocker (Pace Edwards) as is required the least modifications to the body, and looked good. It is very expensive, about $1,500.
The Chevy dealer will install the cover, and will have to remove the rear cargo management rail. I think for me, it will work well. Another buddy of mine has the same cover. It occupies about 11" of space at the back of the bed. Hope this helps.
So far I am very pleased with the truck. I got the SLE1 but with the 5.3L AFM engine. After driving 3.5 hours home I averaged around 20 mpg on the highway. The AFM kicked in quite a bit and the average jumped to around 30 in certain conditions.
I like the new interior. The radio is more flat and open so that both driver and passenger can choose radio stations. The seats are very comfortable and didn't hurt to sit in for such a long drive.
I didn't like the fact that there was no "seek" funnction on the sttering wheel radio controls, just a favorites control.
Overall pleased and I want to thank everyone on here as your reviews and helpfull hints and tips helped me in this purchase!
thx
mike