Make sure you're in Park, I assume you are since you can start, but wouldn't hurt to shift back & forth and make sure. May help to wiggle the steering wheel a bit to get it to lock.
I traded my 2003 Ody in on a 2006 EXL 5/23/06. Have had vibrations and shimmey at hwy speeds of 65/75 mph since purchase.
This could be lots of things, but Honda should fix it.
Tire balance, front end alignment, bad tire (separating tread), bad wheel bearing, bad wheel (bent).... The easiest way to eliminate many of these is to put different tires/ wheels on the front, get a front end alignment and see what happens. Is the road causing the problem? I recently took our 2006 EX-L on a trip and for about 100 miles the front end was shaking. This was the road, not the vehicle.
You want to know the truth? I'll tell you. You are not the only one with this REDICULOUS problem. Some have them, some don't. Some of the Honda Pilot's, Odyssey's, and Acura MDX's have this problem too.
I have been following the steering wheel vibrations for a long time. I even sent letter to Honda in Japan about it.
I'm going to tell you right now, it's not the tires. Many people are going to dis-agree but again, it's not the tires. It's not tire alignment, or tire balance.
It's a problem that's in the design of the body. What do I think it is? The body - a lack of reinforcements. I can tell you why I think it is if you would prefer.
Only ONE PERSON in the FORUM has solved this problem. ONE out of 3 pages of complaints by replacing the tires. I don't believe it. Others did that too and still no luck. Check reviews by consumers for the Pilot, and Odyssey.
I noticed that the Pilot has the largest amount of this problem out of the other Honda's.
There is one filed complaint with NHTSA for the Pilot with this. For some reason, some people are apparently afraid to actually file complaints and get this issue resolved.
Hi Fred222...Thanks for input. My Odyssey has had "shakes" since first day...I test drove a 2006 prior to purchasing mine, however it was not the one I purchased. It never dawned on me, after owning a 2003, that the 2006 could have safety related inherent design or mechanical flaws. I will be meeting with Honda next week to discuss defects. My driving has been on So. Calif. freeways in desert areas where concrete has not been frost damaged and posted speed limits 75MPH. I will not operate my Odyssy at highway speeds until Honda can repair defect...Honda does not set safety standards for American Highways this is baliwick of NHTSA where there are already complaints filed against 2005/06 Odessys for same defects as mine. Good luck with you 2006...
I know this has been discussed, but I got the new brake pads today on my 05 van today (rotors also turned). I wasn't aware the problem was design related, and almost took the van to a brake shop instead. Glad I didn't, since it was free.
I have about 30,000 miles on the van (touring R&N), and other than the brakes everything has worked great. Unfortunately though, the PAX tires don't have much life left and only one or two tire stores in Indy can mount the new tires. Pretty bad that the dealers can only change out the whole tire/wheel combo.
I have a 2006 Honda Odyssey and my tailgate stays went out on July 1. I took my van in on the 3rd and they said the part should be in by the 6th or 7th. Now on the 11th they say it will be another week. I am very unhappy about this as I'm a SAHM with two little ones which means I'm in and out of the back getting strollers and such constantly. I've had to load groceries into my hatch by holding up the heavy hatch with one hand and loading groceries with the other. You should see the looks I get when I try to unload and load a heavy double stroller with one hand. This is very inconvenient and I'm tired of waiting. I've contacted Honda customer service because I don't think it should take this long to get a part. I have two questions for other 2006 Odyssey owners. First, has anyone else had this problem with the tailgate stay and second, how long is a reasonable amount of time to wait for a part?
The one Tire Barn that does it locally is $1,020, mounted, balanced, etc before tax. I don't know if that price is consistent among all Tire Barns nationally. The guy said the average life he is seeing is 27,000 to 35,000 miles. One person came in with almost 40,000, but he rotated every 4,000 miles.
FWIW: why not remove one or both of the middle seats and use that area to get in/out of the vehicle and place the kids in the back seat?
How about going to a home improvement store (HomeDepot or Lowes) and getting a length of 2x4 wood and improvising a pole for propping the door open? Staple rags or something to the ends to avoid scratching the lid of the hatch or your bumper.
I know you have enough strength to open the rear hatch. Your work with lifting the little ones and their strollers (surely you mean 1 stroller) is giving your arms a workout. This is good for you.
I wouldn't worry what other people think when they see you. You're not a new mom are you? The looks when one of your kids is wailing because they have a gash or one of the others is pounding on them - now that's something to take notice of.
Dirty faces or propping your hatch with a makeshift pole? A Non-Issue.
You want to make your point and be a hostile owner?
Drive to the dealership when the Sales staff is really busy. Park your van with the hatch up and with the piece of 2x4 wood holding it open. Struggle like heck to get the hatch open, then positioning the wood to hold it open, then the stoller out and kids situated (so that everyone sees the situation) and leave it while you go looking for another vehicle (if you have to wait that long).
Let some salespeople recognize your dilema in the parts department as all their potential customers look on.
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I don't know how long parts like that take, but obviously there is some availability issue there.
Seriously, call another dealership's parts department for confirmation / determination of the wait which is necessary if you don't trust your parts department rep, and don't worry too much about this.
Thanks for the suggestion about placing the kids in the back. I've not really worked with moving the seats around other than taking the middle one out in the second row but will look into it. Your suggestion seems like it would be my best option while I wait.
My husband also suggested the propping option with pvc pipe but I think I'd rather try moving the seats first.
Yes, I'm definitely strong enough to open the rear hatch and remove my heavy double stroller. Not a new mom but for some reason I still care what other folks think - my own issue, I know.
I love your suggestion about displaying my issue in front of the dealership and will save that one if I have to wait a third week for my part. I will however contact another parts dept. to see what they say about getting this part in.
I have a 2006 odyssey that has a droning noise @ idle. The noise seesm to worsen as it gets hot. You came feel the vibration in the floor boards & steering wheel. The vehicle has less than 1,000 miles on it & has already had 2 tensioners replaced for a different noise. I just drove a newer odyssey with the salesman who sold me mine once around the block . I head it and he comfirmed the noise. Honda has already put in a new trans mount, 2 tensioners & a drive belt. They've washed my van twice. I also get crappy gas mileage. 16city, 19 highway.
i'm glad you took the suggestions in the manner intended.
pvc pipe looks to be too high-tech of a solution. if you're going to have the meltdown at sales ground zero, stick with the 2x4. more sympathy with ratty wood that sleek white poly.
i forgot to suggest that after lugging the stroller out and getting the kids in it, just start shaking uncontrollably. either someone will run to your rescue, or they'll all run-away.
there's always majestic honda: 1.800.341.4113
here's a diagram of the tailgate. call them and ask them if they have the part. then call your dealer.
Hi everyone, I'm new to the boards so I don't know if this has been discussed.
I have approx. 21K miles on our '05 Oddy. I had the van serviced days ago at an independent Honda/Acura service facility (been goin' there since '92 w/my other Honda's).
The owner/head tech had the van on the lift and showed me that all 4 tires had wear only on the inside of each tire. The middle and outside seem to have plenty of tread considering that they have 21k + miles on them.
We're leavin' for Vegas next week and will be puttin' approx. 600 miles round trip and I don't feel quite safe on traveling w/the tires in this condition.
Has anyone else seen this problem? And if so, would this be covered by the 3year/36000 warranty?
I know what CAUSED IT. Do you drive with a loaded van frequently - with a almost full mini-van, or with lots of things in it? If you do, the Odyssey, Pilot, and MDX have the "old style" suspension where the wheels stick out when extra weight is put on the car. I'm noT saying the car is behind in technology, but that suspension part is.
When I go on trips, I see all the Odysseys and Pilot's with the wheel sticking out. More of the tire is on the inner part. That's why - it's because of that silly design. I don't know if it's covered by the warranty. Check your tire warranty.
Thanks for your input, to answer your ?...No, I don't drive w/a frequently loaded van. Just your usual trip to the grocery store and the majority of the time, the only occupants in the van are me and my 4 yr old, but the van has had plenty in it on occasion. I will check the tire warranty...thanks again.
I would have your tires inspected ASAP by a Honda dealer. The PAX warranty allows full replacement of the complete tire and wheel if the problem occurs within 2 years or 50% of the treadlife. See the attached FAQ. Good luck.
"old style"? the double-wishbone is an excellent design isn't it? the handling characteristics of this vehicle are quite good. i imagine if you overload any mini-van, your going to wear the tires unevenly.
The VSA system on my 06 was acting up on the drive home from the dealer...they ended up replacing an ABS sensor and the VSA "modulator", and it seems to be fine now. I'd insist on some new parts...ask some questions about your state's lemon law..I'm sure you'll see some action then. (btw, TX allows for something like 2 fix attempts).
They worked on "grounding" issues which involved filing various bolt heads in the electrical system. This came per Honda USA, it hasn't happened in the last 750 miles but we'll see going forward.
Hi mrturtle: My o6 Odyssey has vibrated since purchase. See post number 620. On 6/27 Honda Rep. determined my "vibration" was a "quiver"! She said she would discuss with Honda and phone me back. She never did! 7/6 I phoned dealer inquiring asking if she had notified them of what next. Dealer said would check and never called back! 7/13 took car to dealer and had to insist they prepare a workorder and repair vehicle under new car warranty. They did and denied service under warranty per as WO states: "(SLIGHT (?) VIBRATION TO BE NORMAL AT THIS TIME". A follow up phone call from Honda Rep. stated this is NOT FACTORY DEFECT but a CHARACTERISTIC" of my vehicle! After listening to "Honda new-speak' from Factory Rep. where "Vibration=quiver" and "defect=Charcteristic", obviously to stonewall against expensive recalls...I decided to file complaint with National Highway traffic and Safety Administration...www.nhtsa.dot.gov. Interestingly enough neither dealer nor Honda will tell me what is causing the vibration aka quiver...oh, yeah..for me "Consumer New-speak" is "Minivan=Toyota"!! Good Luck
THANK YOU for filing a complaint!!! I have done much research with this issue, and many people who have this problem have not filed complaints about it. This issue is really crazy isn't it? I mean, people take their car on vacation and the steering wheel is vibrating. People spend 25,000 and 29,000 and don't get a car that works. I hope that NHTSA forces Honda to fix this issue soon. Try calling NHTSA and keep on bothering them so they keep up with it. Good luck.
Suggestion; ----contact a "Lemon Law Attorney" in your state! A vibration is NOT normal! This could be a "safety issue"! ---- Put the dealer and Honda on notice that you will hold "both responsible" for any injuries and / or loss of life due to an accident associated with the malfunction causing this vibration. You could have a problem wheel or tire on this vehicle. You could have a drive train issue. You could have a steering / suspension issue. Get their attention! ----Best regards. ----Dwayne
FWIW: most likely this is a resonance, a standing wave either in the exhaust or another part which is being coupled to the cabin. some people have experienced mitigation of the groan with the replacement of the A-pipe.
i suppose it could be a motor mount issue. does this happen in vehicles which do not have the active noise cancellation (ANC) with the variable cylinder management (VCM) function?
if it only happens in the vehicles with VCM, or is more noticeable in those vehicles, then it's possible the ANC isn't modelling the resonance and nulling it's energy as designed. i'm just speculating.
my thinking was changing the stiffness or number / location of the exhaust hangers would change the groan / resonance, much like changing the finger position on a guitar fret.
btw, my 2003 ODY has a bit of a groan in the midrange under acceleration. also there is some coupling of tire noise into the cabin. i know this because when i changed my tires, this coupling between the road / tires / cabin changed.
YES, it is resonance. Not sure from what part though. The 4WD models also have it. Honda knows about it but is playing dum. I wrote letters and they are just playing dum.
I have 6500 miles on my '06 EX-L. While getting ready for long trip, I decided to check the pressure in the spare tire. Whoa! the pressure was extremely low, about 10 psi. This is the first time the tire was removed from its storage location.
I inflated it to 60 psi and checked for leaks by submerging it in water. No leaks. Conclusion: the tire was improperly inflated at the factory and not checked there or at the dealer. Shame on you Honda.
My daughter managed to back her mom's 2006 Ody into the new mondo (semi-automated) recycling cart, placing one handle squarely in the center of the lift gate's left tail light.
I've found the parts online (20% off vs. local dealer at 10% over list), but does anyone know if I can remove/replace the tail light assembly by merely removing the small access panel near the lower part of the tailgate liner, or do I have to remove the entire liner? (I know that there are 3 or 4 flange nuts holding the tail lamp assembly one, I just need to know if I can get to them from this access panel -that I assume just pries off.)
I haven't yet ordered my 2006 Ody manual to be able to look it up (still have my 2002 manual if someone is looking for one).
I bought the van in April 2006, and experienced the hesitation in the low gear. The problems were exactly similar to the one you have described. I saw the problem in first 100 miles itself and took it to dealer after 1000miles.
The service manager took a ride with me for about 5 minutes and said, the hesitation is not a problem that is the way the vechicle is designed. He also said, computer within the car is making decisions and this is common in new honda cars. I totally believed him, as he worked there for 15 years or so...
Now after couple of hundred more miles, I am seeing the "grinding noise" problem. Tomorrow I am taking it to dealer. I am afraid to drive the vechicle...Let's see what he says...
Also, my power driver seat got stuck, and they have to replace motor or something...
Was having same problem with my 2005exl. Started on a long 10hr trip. As soon as I either hit 55mph or going uphill :shades: van would shake violently all the way through 70mph then would smooth out. Took it to dealer when I returned home they found same issue. They replaced right something in the drivers side axle that apparently had worn out. Van drives beautifully now no vibrations or even shock transmission through steering column.
It's always good to check the spare tire psi when you check the regular tires. I check the psi on both of our vechicles once a month. (It only takes about 15 min.) :shades:
I don't have my wife's van in front of me, but since nobody has replied yet, I'll tell you what I can.
On our earlier 2000 and 2002 Ody (as well as my Tacoma), it's located under the dash, above the front passenger's feet. On the 2000 and 2002 you had to remove the lower glovebox door, and cut away a temporary plastic brace (that is there only for stability of the dash during assembly of the vehicle) to get to it.
I would suggest looking at one of the several online Honda parts sellers who sell the filter. Many of them have the installation instructions available for dnload from the parts pages. Those instructions will be straight from the package and identical to the svc manual.
Thanks for your help. I tried looking on the web at some suppliers sites but was not successful. I have the feeling it is easily replaced (once found) because a guy at an oil change place had removed it to show me how dirty is was so that they could replace it for $50. I thought he removed from under the hood somewhere but I sure can't find it if so. Any other ideas?
one is the engine air filter which makes sure bugs and dust and other debris isn't pulled into the engine and compressed and burned in the cylinders of the engine. that is the one that the maintenance person showed you from under the hood.
you can replace one yourself for about 12 dollars or so if you know how to use a screwdriver, but you have to know what screws to remove. start by looking for the engine air intake, and following it to a box about 7"x12" or so. engine air filters can be purchased at any automotive supply store.
have you read your owner's manual? there's a diagram showing where it is, i'm almost positive.
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then there is the cabin air filter that removes dust and pollen from outside air being pulled into the interior for you and i to breath.
in past models, Honda has located the cabin air filter behind the glovebox and inside the cabine. unless they've radically changed their design, it is a challenge for you and i to change these. i've done it on my own '03 Odyssey and it involved dropping the glove box, using an exacto knife and large wire cutters to remove a piece of dash material used during dash installaton in the factory, then removing a metal bar with some hard to get at screws. I think the cabine air filter itself cost about 20-30 dollars, but it took me 2 hours to do it.
trust me, the oil change place guy couldn't have gotten to the cabin air filter easily, but the engine air filter? sure, with four screws and 30seconds of work, probably had it in hand. 50 for it to be replaced? what a rip off (when you know how to do it yourself). you just have to have the right tools.
cabin air filter? i think it costs anywhere from 150 to 200 to replace that. it's not the filter, it's the labor. once you've had it done once though, it's easier to do it a second time.
Thanks for your reply. All of those ideas are good ones but unfortunately I have already explored many of them. I cannot find mention of the cabin air filter in the car manual in the 2005 edition. The regular air filter was easy to find and the mechanic wanted $35 for that and I already changed that filter (as you said four screws and it was done). He did show me another filter which he described as a cabin filter and looks like what I have in hand from an auto parts store to replace the cabin filter (also looks like the one in the link you provided). I have found plenty of links to how to painfully change the cabin filter in the pre-2005 odysseys but nothing for the new 2005 edition. Unfortunately I did not watch him closely as to where he got the old cabin air filter from and where he put it back to. However it took him less than 2 minutes to put it back in the car and he did not tear apart my glove boxes.
I'm wondering if he pulled a fast one on you (had a dirty filter already in hand and would pretend to change yours), or if Honda relocated the filter to an easier to access location (so you don't have to cut the plastic temp brace).
Either way, the cabin filter should be in the cabin. I think Purolator (www.pureoil.com) and FRAM had instructions online for their filters, but they may not have the 2005/2006 out yet. When you go to the handaaccessories.com page and see the filter, there should be a link to the instructions. IF not, email them. That's the best I can offer from here.
hmmm. i understand. i mentioned the engine air filter as having it's location described in your manual, not the cabin air filter.
look, you can drop your glovebox easily. open it up. take everything out. there will probably be two rubberized stops on each side of the box that limit how far the box opens. they are attached to the box by plastic clips. rotating the stopper/clip assemblies outward towards the seat disengages them (if I remember correctly). then the whole box will drop down once they are out.
i'm almost positive the cabin air filter will be behnd the glove box, probably a plastic enclosure obscured by a horizonal piece of dash material and a metal bracket.
if honda changed their design to provide access to the cabin air filter door without cutting dash material (used only to stiffen the dash during vehicle assembly) and the metal bracket, then your job will be very easy, and would explain how the oil change guy produced a filter.
if it's obscured, then you know (a) the oil change mechanic was pulling a fast one, and was going to rip you off (for certain) for work they had no intention of doing.
factually, engine air filters are somewhat standard size and changed often enough it would be something they would carry - but a generic oil change place: i'll wager they didn't even have the proper cabin filter to put in your vehicle even if they could gain easy access.
hey, honda could have made it simple. can you investigate for everyone?
I have a 2006 EX-L. I want to install a tow hitch so that we can use a bike carrier we have. I have no intention of towing ANYTHING with the vehicle. I would not get the wiring harness attached. My understanding is that I must get a trans cooler, power steering cooler and air deflector installed in addition to the tow hitch so that my warranty will not be voided. This is probably more than $1000 to do. see http://www.hondapartsdeals.com/product_info.php?products_id=525441 Has anyone else looked into using a tow hitch just for a bike carrier and any legal consequences? I am pretty ticked abot this and may not have purchased the van had I realized how difficult it would be to use the bike carrier. Also, the van did not come with the roof rack bars which are http://www.handa-accessories.com/odyext05.html about $160.
For a/c filter/cabin filter/pollen filter, I always had to buy at the dealer or online Honda store for my 98 Accord. I could not find pollen filter at local auto parts store like Autozone.
Two week ago, I went to local auto parts store to buy engine filter for 05/06 Odyssey, and they dont carry them yet. I also did not see pollen filter at the stores.
For the past Honda, you have to remove glove box like few people mention here. I have not checked with 05/06 Odyssey yet. I also want to know how to change the pollen filter for 05/06 Odessey.
ps. for my other VW car, i have to pop up the hood to change the pollen filter.
Our 06 Honda Odyssey has about 300 miles on it. Today after drove back home, we found quite some dripping fluid under the front center of the car. We checked it and the fluid seems to be water like, not oil like. Is this a problem? the raod was dry, so the water were not from outside.
I just purchased a brand new 2006 Honda Odyssey EXl model. I've got about 700 miles on it and have been driving in the city with the air conditioner on but I'm only getting 13.6 mpg. I certainly thought that I should be getting somewhere around 18-20. Is there something wrong?? I took it back to the dealer and he told me that it has to get about 4,000 miles on it to start getting better milage. That just doesn't seem right and I've talked to other people with new Odyssey"s and they told me they got about 18-20 right away. Any suggestions. Thanks for any input.
Not sure if anyone has replied to you on replacing the taillight, or if you have already replaced the damaged taillight...
To remove either the R/L taillight on the tailgate, its just a matter of removing 4 nuts and a couple of electrical connectors. You may be able to access these nuts through the small access cover IF you have a small hand and can work the tool through there. Just be careful not to drop anything in there as you will have a hard time finding it... It is recommended to remove the trim panel for this job, if you do, me ready to replace some of the plastic anchors/clips. Hope this helps and Good Luck!
your mileage, specially in the city is going to be a function of how agressively you drive; if you take off gradually, do some coasting; getting on the gas moderately your fuel economy should improve.
and you should see some improvement in mileage with unit wear-in. at least i did in my '03.
i think the people reporting 18-20city right away may have been imaginging things for the better, but it may be possible...
i know for a fact i'd get better mileage in the city or mixed driving, heck - even highway driving than my wife who tends to be much more agressive with the van than i and on/off the pedal on the highway. :surprise:
check to see that you are taking it easy with the pedal and not racing about. start tracking your fuel consumption by hand and see if modifying your driving style gains you 3MPG or so.
longer term, track your mileage and see if you experience a steady improvement up through 4-5K.
Although your new ODY mpg does seem a bit on the low side, it is still new, give it time to get the mpg up. From reading a lot of the posts back when we got our 2005 ODY, most of the ODY owners have gone through the same experience you are... My 2005 ODY just reached its 14000 mile mark, its mpg has been improving since; we are getting about 21 mpg mixed driving, still not quite what I'd like to get but I am ok with it as long as it stays problem free... (just replaced its right front strut under warranty, otherwise all is well).
City driving varies. Your city driving might be very different thatn others, and the EPA has a particularly easy city route to obtain their sticker mileage. How much idle time and start/stop you're doing will have a huge effect on mileage. What type of vehicle did you have before this and what type of mileage where you getting? That could set the standard for what to expect from your vehicles. I know folks with 4cyl cars that are rated 29/35 on the EPA but only get 20mpg in town because they idle stop/start so much. This is a big heavy vehicle, essentially the same size as a full-size SUV. It's not going to do well in the city, particularly if you idle a lot.
I was in the exact same situation with you. I went ahead and installed the hitch anyway (without other additions like the trans cooler, Especially the Wiring Harness, and etc). I figured without installing the wiring harness, I'll have a much easier time proving that I am not towing ANYTHING with the hitch as its illiegle... The plastic spoiler on the top of the tailgate (where the 3rd Stoplight is mounted) made it impossible to attach any temp bike carriers, what an inconsiderate design (like of batter words, its just stupid and disappointing!)
Has anyone else experienced problems with the outside temprature? It can be in the 90's and the temp reads 60's. other times it seems to be correct. have called the dealer, but haven't taken it in yet - only had vehicle 6 weeks. Overall LOVE the new Odyssey - have owned a '97 and and'01 previously!
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This could be lots of things, but Honda should fix it.
Tire balance, front end alignment, bad tire (separating tread), bad wheel bearing, bad wheel (bent).... The easiest way to eliminate many of these is to put different tires/ wheels on the front, get a front end alignment and see what happens.
Is the road causing the problem? I recently took our 2006 EX-L on a trip and for about 100 miles the front end was shaking. This was the road, not the vehicle.
I have been following the steering wheel vibrations for a long time. I even sent letter to Honda in Japan about it.
I'm going to tell you right now, it's not the tires. Many people are going to dis-agree but again, it's not the tires. It's not tire alignment, or tire balance.
It's a problem that's in the design of the body. What do I think it is? The body - a lack of reinforcements. I can tell you why I think it is if you would prefer.
Only ONE PERSON in the FORUM has solved this problem. ONE out of 3 pages of complaints by replacing the tires. I don't believe it. Others did that too and still no luck. Check reviews by consumers for the Pilot, and Odyssey.
I noticed that the Pilot has the largest amount of this problem out of the other Honda's.
There is one filed complaint with NHTSA for the Pilot with this. For some reason, some people are apparently afraid to actually file complaints and get this issue resolved.
I have about 30,000 miles on the van (touring R&N), and other than the brakes everything has worked great. Unfortunately though, the PAX tires don't have much life left and only one or two tire stores in Indy can mount the new tires. Pretty bad that the dealers can only change out the whole tire/wheel combo.
How about going to a home improvement store (HomeDepot or Lowes) and getting a length of 2x4 wood and improvising a pole for propping the door open? Staple rags or something to the ends to avoid scratching the lid of the hatch or your bumper.
I know you have enough strength to open the rear hatch. Your work with lifting the little ones and their strollers (surely you mean 1 stroller) is giving your arms a workout. This is good for you.
I wouldn't worry what other people think when they see you. You're not a new mom are you?
Dirty faces or propping your hatch with a makeshift pole? A Non-Issue.
You want to make your point and be a hostile owner?
Drive to the dealership when the Sales staff is really busy. Park your van with the hatch up and with the piece of 2x4 wood holding it open. Struggle like heck to get the hatch open, then positioning the wood to hold it open, then the stoller out and kids situated (so that everyone sees the situation) and leave it while you go looking for another vehicle (if you have to wait that long).
Let some salespeople recognize your dilema in the parts department as all their potential customers look on.
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I don't know how long parts like that take, but obviously there is some availability issue there.
Seriously, call another dealership's parts department for confirmation / determination of the wait which is necessary if you don't trust your parts department rep, and don't worry too much about this.
My husband also suggested the propping option with pvc pipe but I think I'd rather try moving the seats first.
Yes, I'm definitely strong enough to open the rear hatch and remove my heavy double stroller. Not a new mom but for some reason I still care what other folks think - my own issue, I know.
I love your suggestion about displaying my issue in front of the dealership and will save that one if I have to wait a third week for my part. I will however contact another parts dept. to see what they say about getting this part in.
Thanks for your help!
I also get crappy gas mileage. 16city, 19 highway.
Can anyone help honda on this one?
pvc pipe looks to be too high-tech of a solution. if you're going to have the meltdown at sales ground zero, stick with the 2x4. more sympathy with ratty wood that sleek white poly.
i forgot to suggest that after lugging the stroller out and getting the kids in it, just start shaking uncontrollably. either someone will run to your rescue, or they'll all run-away.
there's always majestic honda:
1.800.341.4113
here's a diagram of the tailgate. call them and ask them if they have the part. then call your dealer.
http://www.hondaautomotiveparts.com/auto/jsp/mws/prddisplay.jsp?inputstate=5&cat- cgry1=Odyssey&catcgry2=2006&catcgry3=5DR+EXL&catcgry4=KA5AT&catcgry5=TAILGATE
I have approx. 21K miles on our '05 Oddy.
I had the van serviced days ago at an independent Honda/Acura service facility (been goin' there since '92 w/my other Honda's).
The owner/head tech had the van on the lift and showed me that all 4 tires had wear only on the inside of each tire.
The middle and outside seem to have plenty of tread considering that they have 21k + miles on them.
We're leavin' for Vegas next week and will be puttin' approx. 600 miles round trip and I don't feel quite safe on traveling w/the tires in this condition.
Has anyone else seen this problem?
And if so, would this be covered by the 3year/36000 warranty?
When I go on trips, I see all the Odysseys and Pilot's with the wheel sticking out. More of the tire is on the inner part. That's why - it's because of that silly design. I don't know if it's covered by the warranty.
Check your tire warranty.
I will check the tire warranty...thanks again.
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I hope that NHTSA forces Honda to fix this issue soon. Try calling NHTSA and keep on bothering them so they keep up with it. Good luck.
i suppose it could be a motor mount issue. does this happen in vehicles which do not have the active noise cancellation (ANC) with the variable cylinder management (VCM) function?
if it only happens in the vehicles with VCM, or is more noticeable in those vehicles, then it's possible the ANC isn't modelling the resonance and nulling it's energy as designed. i'm just speculating.
my thinking was changing the stiffness or number / location of the exhaust hangers would change the groan / resonance, much like changing the finger position on a guitar fret.
btw, my 2003 ODY has a bit of a groan in the midrange under acceleration. also there is some coupling of tire noise into the cabin. i know this because when i changed my tires, this coupling between the road / tires / cabin changed.
I inflated it to 60 psi and checked for leaks by submerging it in water. No leaks. Conclusion: the tire was improperly inflated at the factory and not checked there or at the dealer. Shame on you Honda.
I suggest you check your spare.
I've found the parts online (20% off vs. local dealer at 10% over list), but does anyone know if I can remove/replace the tail light assembly by merely removing the small access panel near the lower part of the tailgate liner, or do I have to remove the entire liner?
(I know that there are 3 or 4 flange nuts holding the tail lamp assembly one, I just need to know if I can get to them from this access panel -that I assume just pries off.)
I haven't yet ordered my 2006 Ody manual to be able to look it up (still have my 2002 manual if someone is looking for one).
The service manager took a ride with me for about 5 minutes and said, the hesitation is not a problem that is the way the vechicle is designed. He also said, computer within the car is making decisions and this is common in new honda cars. I totally believed him, as he worked there for 15 years or so...
Now after couple of hundred more miles, I am seeing the "grinding noise" problem. Tomorrow I am taking it to dealer. I am afraid to drive the vechicle...Let's see what he says...
Also, my power driver seat got stuck, and they have to replace motor or something...
Phil
On our earlier 2000 and 2002 Ody (as well as my Tacoma), it's located under the dash, above the front passenger's feet. On the 2000 and 2002 you had to remove the lower glovebox door, and cut away a temporary plastic brace (that is there only for stability of the dash during assembly of the vehicle) to get to it.
I would suggest looking at one of the several online Honda parts sellers who sell the filter. Many of them have the installation instructions available for dnload from the parts pages. Those instructions will be straight from the package and identical to the svc manual.
Phil
one is the engine air filter which makes sure bugs and dust and other debris isn't pulled into the engine and compressed and burned in the cylinders of the engine. that is the one that the maintenance person showed you from under the hood.
you can replace one yourself for about 12 dollars or so if you know how to use a screwdriver, but you have to know what screws to remove. start by looking for the engine air intake, and following it to a box about 7"x12" or so. engine air filters can be purchased at any automotive supply store.
have you read your owner's manual? there's a diagram showing where it is, i'm almost positive.
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then there is the cabin air filter that removes dust and pollen from outside air being pulled into the interior for you and i to breath.
in past models, Honda has located the cabin air filter behind the glovebox and inside the cabine. unless they've radically changed their design, it is a challenge for you and i to change these. i've done it on my own '03 Odyssey and it involved dropping the glove box, using an exacto knife and large wire cutters to remove a piece of dash material used during dash installaton in the factory, then removing a metal bar with some hard to get at screws. I think the cabine air filter itself cost about 20-30 dollars, but it took me 2 hours to do it.
trust me, the oil change place guy couldn't have gotten to the cabin air filter easily, but the engine air filter? sure, with four screws and 30seconds of work, probably had it in hand. 50 for it to be replaced? what a rip off (when you know how to do it yourself). you just have to have the right tools.
cabin air filter? i think it costs anywhere from 150 to 200 to replace that. it's not the filter, it's the labor. once you've had it done once though, it's easier to do it a second time.
you can find that filter here:
http://www.handaaccessories.com/odymaint05.html
Either way, the cabin filter should be in the cabin.
I think Purolator (www.pureoil.com) and FRAM had instructions online for their filters, but they may not have the 2005/2006 out yet. When you go to the handaaccessories.com page and see the filter, there should be a link to the instructions. IF not, email them.
That's the best I can offer from here.
look, you can drop your glovebox easily. open it up. take everything out. there will probably be two rubberized stops on each side of the box that limit how far the box opens. they are attached to the box by plastic clips. rotating the stopper/clip assemblies outward towards the seat disengages them (if I remember correctly). then the whole box will drop down once they are out.
i'm almost positive the cabin air filter will be behnd the glove box, probably a plastic enclosure obscured by a horizonal piece of dash material and a metal bracket.
if honda changed their design to provide access to the cabin air filter door without cutting dash material (used only to stiffen the dash during vehicle assembly) and the metal bracket, then your job will be very easy, and would explain how the oil change guy produced a filter.
if it's obscured, then you know (a) the oil change mechanic was pulling a fast one, and was going to rip you off (for certain) for work they had no intention of doing.
factually, engine air filters are somewhat standard size and changed often enough it would be something they would carry - but a generic oil change place: i'll wager they didn't even have the proper cabin filter to put in your vehicle even if they could gain easy access.
hey, honda could have made it simple. can you investigate for everyone?
Has anyone else looked into using a tow hitch just for a bike carrier and any legal consequences?
I am pretty ticked abot this and may not have purchased the van had I realized how difficult it would be to use the bike carrier. Also, the van did not come with the roof rack bars which are http://www.handa-accessories.com/odyext05.html about $160.
Two week ago, I went to local auto parts store to buy engine filter for 05/06 Odyssey, and they dont carry them yet. I also did not see pollen filter at the stores.
For the past Honda, you have to remove glove box like few people mention here. I have not checked with 05/06 Odyssey yet. I also want to know how to change the pollen filter for 05/06 Odessey.
ps. for my other VW car, i have to pop up the hood to change the pollen filter.
Our 06 Honda Odyssey has about 300 miles on it. Today after drove back home, we found quite some dripping fluid under the front center of the car. We checked it and the fluid seems to be water like, not oil like. Is this a problem? the raod was dry, so the water were not from outside.
thank you very much.
wz
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Is there something wrong?? I took it back to the dealer and he told me that it has to get about 4,000 miles on it to start getting better milage. That just doesn't seem right and I've talked to other people with new Odyssey"s and they told me they got about 18-20 right away. Any suggestions. Thanks for any input.
Tom
To remove either the R/L taillight on the tailgate, its just a matter of removing 4 nuts and a couple of electrical connectors. You may be able to access these nuts through the small access cover IF you have a small hand and can work the tool through there. Just be careful not to drop anything in there as you will have a hard time finding it... It is recommended to remove the trim panel for this job, if you do, me ready to replace some of the plastic anchors/clips. Hope this helps and Good Luck!
and you should see some improvement in mileage with unit wear-in. at least i did in my '03.
i think the people reporting 18-20city right away may have been imaginging things for the better, but it may be possible...
i know for a fact i'd get better mileage in the city or mixed driving, heck - even highway driving than my wife who tends to be much more agressive with the van than i and on/off the pedal on the highway. :surprise:
check to see that you are taking it easy with the pedal and not racing about. start tracking your fuel consumption by hand and see if modifying your driving style gains you 3MPG or so.
longer term, track your mileage and see if you experience a steady improvement up through 4-5K.
wz