Isuzu Trooper Clutch Questions

have owned my 93 trooper for about a year, and recently found i have to change the clutch [ i think] im pretty machanicaly inclined but this looks like a major job. do i have to remove exhaust or does the trany slip out backwards with the transaxle? anybody do this job themselves out there?
ive checked the master cylinder, wondering if it might be the damper or slave? feels like clutch not engaging...
ive checked the master cylinder, wondering if it might be the damper or slave? feels like clutch not engaging...
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I went back to the dealer and had themn trouble shoot those items...they couldn't find anything wrong - except to say the repair shop may have mixed up with wiring when they did the clutch replacement (Repair shop swears they tagged each wire to the sensors on the transmission).
Any idea what I can do to resolve this?..is the slipping clutch a possible source to the other problems?..
Thanks
I think these are the most obvious places to start. I guess you will know if the slipping clutch, once fixed, was the reason all the trouble started. Let us know, too.
Good luck.
The Wedge collar keeps pulling out of the clutch pressure plate. The wedge collar attaches to the throw out bearing. The throw out bearing or (release bearing)keeps pulling it out. We have returned the clutch kit got a new one same thing. have replaced the master and the slave. Same thing. Have talked to honda dealer and parts stores say they have no idea. Please help we have had the transmission out 5 times now. No one can tell us anything.
didn't help!!!lol still pulled out. Now we are finding that the part on the pressure plate that holds the wedgecollar onto the pressure plate is loose and pulling out also we dont get it. we dont have a problem with the throwout bearing coming out our problem is it pulls the wedgecollar out of the pressure plate so now we are going for time #9 of pulling out the tranny and trying again so if you have any dynamite we will be needing some if this doesn't work we will let you know what happens!!!!!!!!!!!!
After installing the new gearbox, I had the throw out berring pop out almost right away...
Removed and reinstalled the tranny two more times, each time the same problem after less than 5 miles of driving.... :mad: :mad: :mad:
I at first thought I was doing something wrong durring the install, But after a quick search online, I find you all are haveing the same probelm!!!!
Now Im furious.!!!
I also used a Napa replacement clutch kit, which I beleive is the problem...They are manufacturing the inside of the preasure plate for a larger sized spring-ring.
I still have the original Isuzu OEM clutch and noticed that, the recessed area in the female ring on the preasure plate, is machined differently...it is bevelled at a 45 degree angle, and recessed deeper.
The Napa one is not beveled the same way!
The Napa part is built WRONG!!!!!!!
I am so pissed off at Napa that i think we all should join together and sue them for our lost time and painfull multiple tranny removals and installs...
If any other folks feel the same way please contact me ASAP
I bought another clutch from Auto Zone made by LUK and it seems to be built a little better than the napa one (although it appears to be using chinease parts, too)... I am doing the removeal and install one more time useing this LUK clutch..
I will post tommorow on the reults...
There is a better designed stronger one off of a Mazda RX 7 (search you tube) these mazda ones have a recessed area on the ring where the "fingers" hold the ring...Also the ring is MUCH heaver duty than the isuzu style.
The snap-ring is thicker and this allows it to sit in the recessed groove in the berring (like it was designed to)
If the Auto Zone clutch does not work, I may retrofit a Mazda style ring and retainer on my isuzu.
Big Al
Both the two aftermarket clutches that I bought were made incorrectly....Napa and AutoZone.
On the AutoZone clutch set the throw out berring as TOO small and would not even fit over the input shaft!
Both preasure plates have the "ring" in the center machined to large...
I put a micrometer on it and it is substantually bigger than the stock OEM clutch ring...
To solve this...I removed the ring from inside the OEM preasure plate (by bending the little tabs back) and then reinstalled it on the new Napa one....
Now the clutch works great!!!
If I was gonna do this all over again, I would just spend the extra $$$ for the stock OEM parts!
I don't suggest welding the ring on, or installing the berring on the preasure plate before install, as this can damage the fork and input shaft also...
Big Al
I will be replacing the clutch, I have never replaced one and was wondering what I can expect, Is it difficult. How long will it take, what is the best brand that I wont have any problems with, will the tranny need to come out? and will the throwout being need replaced? any help would be apprecated.
I'll try that when day light hits. I'm in the canyon at snowbird ski resort