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Honda Fit v. Scion xB



  • aathertonaatherton Posts: 617
    "... If the styling of the xB was a bit less un-appealing, I might have looked at it. The Honda Element is also boxy but it does not look this odd..."

    The Element is a lot larger, more powerful, more expensive, yet gets much worse mileage and seats one less person. And the styling of the Element, especially the curved door tops, is unappealing to me.
  • jimmy5150jimmy5150 Posts: 30
    I love the first choice over the xB, bout couldn't swallow the price tag along with the horrible gas mileage.

    If money wasn't an issue, I'd have an Element just to take camping...throw some bags of mulch in the back....take the seats out...just to take the seats out.....neat vehicle.
  • stragerstrager Posts: 308
    I've had a xB for almost 3 years, and it has the most comfortable seats (and seating position) of any vehicle that I've driven in. Not to mention that it's fun to drive with a HUGE amount of room for passengers.

    If I had to make the choice today, I'd still buy the xB. The only advantage that the Fit has is side curtain airbags, but the xB has stability control, which is supposed to be a must safety feature.

    As far as gas mileage, I get 26 mpg/city and about 36 freeway. My guess is that in reality, the Fit gets about the same. It all comes down to personal preference.
  • jonniedeejonniedee Posts: 111
    Quote: As far as gas mileage, I get 26 mpg/city and about 36 freeway.

    You must drive REALLY SLOW. My neighbor drives 75mph on the highway with her Xb and has never got much over 30mpg (auto AC) :confuse:
  • raychuang00raychuang00 Posts: 541
    ...I think the next-generation Scion xB will be based on the next-generation Corolla platform. We could have gotten the new Toyota bB that came out in Japan at the beginning of 2006 but I think Toyota wanted the new xB to be a bit roomier. If you're seen the Scion T2B concept it may hint at what the new xB will be like.
  • johnnyvjjohnnyvj Posts: 112
    "As far as gas mileage, I get 26 mpg/city and about 36 freeway. My guess is that in reality, the Fit gets about the same."

    Actually, over in the MPG thread, most Fit owners report beating those numbers.
  • aathertonaatherton Posts: 617
    I saw a site that said the next xB would be based on the Corolla platform, too. I guess that means longer, roomier, bigger enginel, more expensive, and more gas. More like an Element. Glad I got my little old '06 xB.
  • propapprpropappr Posts: 1
    Well being a large fellow, at 6'4" I find the XB very confortable even in the back seat. I can actually ride behind the driver and be comfortable. There are not many cars at all that I can say that about. The element is one but the gas mileage is just not as good.
  • ew3074ew3074 Posts: 20
    BTY, just wanna show you guys the Japan version bb.
    This picture was taken on a street in Hong Kong. I hope America will have this one soon.
  • I am a brand new xB owner and am quite disappointed with the ride. Did not take it on the "right" test drive roads to determine that the suspension was so harsh. Read your email and cannot find Monroe Sensatracs for a Scion xB on internet. Where did you get yours? Did you get them for the Echo? Help, want to sell this car because of the harsh ride and it only has 40 miles on it!
  • Both guys I know that have put Monroe Sensatracs on their xB's used Monroe Part #5987 for the rear, and #71575 for the front, which are technically for the 2001-2003 Toyota Echo. Monroe doesn't officially acknowledge having a Sensatrac for the xB.
  • Just to clarify...did this add more comfort to the ride by changing the shocks? Need to ask because I've talked to 2 shock places and they told me that it would make a minimal difference.
  • I'm a new owner of a 2006 xb, polar white, 5 speed. I have test driven the Fit twice, both times a 5 speed. While it was fun to drive and had great shifting and handling and most likely better gas mileage, I felt my seating position was a little low for my liking and also could not swallow the appearance/design of the rear half of the car. Something about the looks didn't sit right with me. So I bought the xB. I have had lots of fun shifting the xB manual transmission. The car handles well and just feels crisp and is fun to drive. I almost bought a Versa that same day. It's more of a whole car than the xB, but not nearly as fun to drive. At 38 years old, I'm looking for some fun!
  • Yes, they did it to soften the ride of their xB's.
  • Personally, I find the XB to be one of the ugliest cars I have ever seen! I would be embarrassed to be seen riding in one! No insult to those of you who own one, that is my personal opinion. To each there own.
  • crimsonacrimsona Posts: 153
    The box on wheels has created a entire market segment in Japan.

    Check out Honda japan's lineup

    Just press the skip movie button
  • Dear carfanatic...I used to think the very same thing! But since it's been here I couldn't help to convert ugly into cute when considering that my choices for my $14,000 were used vehicles with 40-60,000 miles on them and little to no warranty remaining. It's my opinion that the Fit's rear styling is "odd" and this comes from a previous Aztec owner. To each there own is very true. :)
  • atl400atl400 Posts: 3
    Having test drove both a Fit Sport mt & a xB mt I agree 100%.
  • atl400atl400 Posts: 3
    I disagree. I test drove both the base Fit (auto) & Fit Sport (mt). The base Fit has 14' wheels vs. 15" on the Sport. The ride & handling on the Sport was much better. I didn't feel secure driving the base Fit.
  • "I didn't feel secure driving the base Fit."

    Oh please...

    "The ride & handling on the Sport was much better."

    There is no difference between base and sport in those respects, and I really cannot imagine that an extra 20mm of tire width and extra inch of wheel would make so much of a difference for you to feel "secure" in the Sport as opposed to not secure in the base..

    The engine, transmission (apart from paddle shifters), and suspension are 100% identical between the two. Apart from somewhat better tires and larger wheels, there is no ride/handling/performance difference. Anything you thought you noticed was your imagination.
  • plektoplekto Posts: 3,738
    The base model ha a few inches less turning radius, and a little less weight(steel 14" weigh less than the alloy 15s.

    Now, if they really *would* make a proper Sport version...
  • The "few inches less turning radius" and "less weight" are inherent differences that are expected to be found between two trim levels of a car and with different size wheels. Of course, those differences are not that significant...about 40 pounds less for the base with 0.1 feet less turning radius.
    What I was refering to was Honda actually equipping the Sport with a better engine/transmission or improved suspension...which is not the case.

    I think part of the issue is that the person who posted this tested the two different transmissions and assumed the differences were related to the car. Not surprising he liked the Sport better. It had the manual!
  • plektoplekto Posts: 3,738
    Well, that does make sense. Honda makes nice manual transmissions for the price(it's not BMW, but it's certainly not GM). And the car moves much quicker with it if you wind it up properly.
  • slrmanslrman Posts: 2
    I think that all in all the scion xB is a much better car that the honda fit. It drives better, and looks alot cooler.
  • plektoplekto Posts: 3,738
    You mean like the lack of a cup holder for the rear seat? The fact that the interior has the appeal and feel of Tupperware?

    The list of differences between the two adds up to a major win for the Fit.
  • bearcrkrdbearcrkrd Posts: 167
    First time on this board. Looks to have been started before the 2008 xB came out. If you live in, and stay pretty much confined to, a major urban area, a Fit with Auto tranny may be as good a choice as the new xB. It's cheaper, although still pricey IMO, but a Chevy Aveo is even cheaper yet, if we want to go that way. The 2008 xB is ten times the car the Fit is. Ok, maybe not ten times. The first week the Fit came out I checked out both trim levels at a local Honda dealer. Neat little car!! Would have been interesting to compare to a 2006 xB, especially in an urban setting. Not so compared to the '08. Just like the 2008 xB cannot compare to CRV EX AWD. Or even an Element EX AWD, for that matter. Peace... :blush:
  • thegraduatethegraduate Posts: 9,731
    With a 5-7 MPG difference in fuel economy, and a curb weight over 500 pounds heavier than the Fit (and an engine something like 50% larger), it would seem the the xB and the Fit aren't the close competitors they once were.
  • After researching and test-driving cars for the past 3 months, it came down to the Fit Sport 2007 and the Scion XB 2008. I wanted a Fit Sport over the regular Fit to have the cruise control and power features, plus alloy wheels -- I mean, it's not much more for the Sport model, when you're thinking of paying thousands of dollars, anyway, to have those conveniences. The Scion XB 2008 was of interest because of the standard safety features (ABS, front air bags, side air bags, traction control, stability control, and tire pressure monitor); what other entry level cars for that price comes with those safety features? Practically, none. However, my wife and I decided on a Fit Sport instead. Here's why. I hope this helps any of you out there in the same predicament.

    As the editor of has stated in his blog, the 2008 Scion XB is not comparable to the earlier Scion XB models. It may have the same name, but it's not a compact car. It's heavier, and so gets less gas mileage. If you compare it to small SUVs, which you should do, it's a great option. It's more like a small SUV. And it has the dependability of Toyota, and not only that, but it comes standard with all those earlier mentioned safety features. All that is great, if you want a small SUV!

    However, we decided on a Fit Sport because it gets much better gas mileage, and it has very good safety features as well. It comes standard with ABS, front air bags, and side air bags. Not many entry level cars offer ABS and side air bags as standard (of note, look at all the USA made entry level cars, and look at how may offer ABS and side air bags standard; you won't find many; they'll be listed as options, and good luck finding them available at the end of the model year). So the difference was traction control, stability control, and tire pressure monitoring. Well, I decided that I could monitor the tire pressure myself, and for traction control and stability control, although they are very desirable, because the Fit is lighter than the Scion, I decided they weren't as necessary. Of course, I would like those safety features, but because the Fit is so light and nimble, I figured it'd drive well enough without them -- I mean, what more do you want for an economy car.

    And that's the difference right there: the 2008 Scion XB, I think, is no longer an economy car, whereas the Fit is. The Fit costs less, as well. And if you get the Sport model, you get an alarm and alloy wheels included, which would cost you extra for the Scion, about $500 for the alarm and about $800 for the wheels, if my memory is correct. So, for the price, the Fit won.

    And of last note: while the Scion drove much smoother than the Fit, it did have some blind spots due to the pillars in the back. So I decided over better visibility over a smoother ride. I'm sure the Scion would be a more comfortable drive over a cross country road trip, but the Fit, for everyday city driving, won out. Not to mention the variability of the Magic Seats, etc. It's a smaller, cheaper car, but in the end, it seemed like more car.

    It depends on what you want. And as an aside, the 2007 Scion XB was not in the running because it received a poor rating on side impact crash tests, and I do not see a reason in 2007 why anybody should purchase a vehicle with so many options available that received a poor on such a test. Why risk it? The crash may never happen, but I'd rather not take a chance.

    Hope this helps. Good luck making your choice!
  • i'm living in canaduh, and i really wish the market opens for european and asian cars like these, cause we are left behind here in quebec, caught in the north american market, with the need of BIG cup holder and BIG everything that we don't really need here..import buying an 06 xb, and i even need to import it from u.s.a! how funny........oh b.t.w the 08 xb is a complete disater! and the honda fit is too small and common here... a litte cramped car!!hahah no compete!!
  • bobw3bobw3 Posts: 2,992
    So if the Fit is too small and the other cars being marketed are too big, what exactly are you looking for? How about the Matrix or something similar?
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