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Towing with a Silverado

mbenedixmbenedix Posts: 2
edited March 2014 in Chevrolet
I own a 1998 Silverado 1500 4x4 with the 5.7
engine and 3.73 rear end. It has the tow package,
and off road package. I cannot seem to get a
straight answer as to what this truck will tow!
Anybody know, or have experience towing with this
vehicle?
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  • mgdvhmanmgdvhman Posts: 4,162
    8000-9000 Lbs.

    depends on a manual or automatic...ex cab or reg cab...and length of box.

    But I'd say that's about right...perhaps a little bit more..

    Good Luck

    - Tim
  • mbenedixmbenedix Posts: 2
    The truck is an auto. with the x-cab and short bed.
  • mgdvhmanmgdvhman Posts: 4,162
    I looked at a 2000 Brochure...and the 2K model with the 5.3 auto...was 8500 Lbs. I'd imagine yours is similar?
    I guess the cab and box size does not matter for towing...it does matter for payload capacity though..

    - Tim
  • mgdvhmanmgdvhman Posts: 4,162
    Don't you have a 98 that you tow your 5th wheel with?...that's about 10K lbs I'd imagine?
    ...You may have the 4:10's though...

    - Tim
  • eaborgeaborg Posts: 4
    A 98 Chevy 1/2 ton 4x4 Ext Cab with the 350 and 3:73 gears has a max tow rating of 6500lbs.
  • eaborgeaborg Posts: 4
    Also have you actually read the fine print to see how GM is getting such high tow ratings on the new Silverados. Their treating it the same as a gross combo rating. Every time you put something in the bed or a person in the cab you not only deduct from your payload but also deduct from your tow rating. So would seem that if you deduct the payload capacity from the tow rating you would get a Chevy's true towing capacity, does that seem correct.
  • gotribe1gotribe1 Posts: 81
    Does anyone know what the tow rating for 2000 Silverado is? I ordered 4wd, 5.3L, 3.73 axle, and Z82; brochure and trailer guide both say up maximum trailer weight of 8500lbs. So does 2k Sierra brochure. I picked up my truck yesterday and was reading the owners manual last night. On page 4-59, the owners manual lists 7500lbs. as the max trailer weight. 99 brochure had 7500lbs. as max for that combo. Which is correct? I would think that there could be more unhappy campers if the owners manual was right and people ordered based on brochure! I hope its that they didn't update manual from last year. Help!
  • rrichfrrichf Posts: 212
    Vehicle Ratings
    GVWR - Gross Vehicle Weight Rating
    You vehicle must not weigh more than the specified rating. Found on the door sticker.
    CVWR or GCVWR - This is truck and trailer combined.
    Maximum towed vehicle weight is the maximum weight of the trailer.

    Now take a good fifth wheel at 13,000 pounds, a 1500 pound hitch weight, a truck weight of 7100 pounds, a GVWR of 8800 pounds, maximum trailer weight of 13,000 pounds and GCVWR of 20,000 pounds.

    This combination exceeds the capacity of the truck to tow. How? Well, it's not the GVWR, which is 1500 plus 7100 for a total of 8600. The trailer is right at the maximum weight limit for the truck. Where this combination exceeds the specifications is in the GCVWR. 7100 plus 13,000 is 20,100 or 100 pounds over the limit. If I add my wife, the dog, luggage and the cooler to the truck we're looking at truck weight of 7350 pounds and now we have exceeded the specification by 350 pounds.

    This doesn't even consider the weight restrictions on the axles, although they probably wouldn't be exceeded in this example.

    I've only seen the Ford documentation used to calculate weight distribution and loading. I think that all truck manufacturers are required by federal law to provide these documents. You'll usually find them in the sales room literature rack. Get a copy and go through the exercise, it is an enlightening experience.

    Rich
  • geddes1geddes1 Posts: 8
    Max towing wt is 6500lbs. with a max tongue wt. of 750lbs. If using a 5th wheel trailer max wt. is 6000lbs. with a kingpin wt. of 1200lbs. Caution when using the 5th wheel, check the total payload of the kingpin wt., and all cargo in the truck including passengers so as not to exceed the payload capacity of the truck.
  • gotribe1gotribe1 Posts: 81
    Thanks for info on GCWR. But my question was actually about whether the brochure or owners manual is correct. Brochure for Chevy & GMC both state 8500lb. max for Z85, 5.3L, 3.73 axle on 4wd. Owners manual states 7500lbs. which is what the 99 brochure said. Could brochure be right, and manual not updated for 2000? Thanks
  • rrichfrrichf Posts: 212
    gotribe1,
    You should be able to call the GM customer service and ask for the loading chart. (The Ford one is a single sheet of paper, maybe 17" x 22" and folded to a brochure size for the literature rack. That is the only place that the information is accurate. The bad news is that you'll have to know the options that are on your truck to do the calculation. If you have the window sticker all the option codes are usually there. It is a real pain to accomplish the calculation but you really KNOW your truck after you've done it.

    Also, I don't know the nomenclature of the GM line of trucks. If the Z85 (or 71) includes a softer ride package, your gross weight limitations are reduced. If your truck rides more like a car then I would go with the owner's manual. Doesn't your truck have a sticker on the driver door or jam? Mine has all the gross limits posted there. Let us know what you find out as we want to learn too.

    Rich
  • burroakburroak Posts: 17
    I realize everyones concerns with tow ratings, but the first thing I consider is. " Can I stop this thing?" Most run trailer brake systems, but they may fail and then you up a creek. In my opinion 5th wheels and large trailers should not be towed with 1/2 ton pickups. If you want to haul a load get a 3/4 or 1 ton.
  • gotribe1gotribe1 Posts: 81
    I don't care if its 1/2, 3/4, or 1 ton,; when da brakes break you is more dan up a creek. U is goin to have a heck of a ride! Your logic would say that only semi's should pull anything.
  • gotribe1gotribe1 Posts: 81
    oops! What happened to post 14?
  • rayt2rayt2 Posts: 1,208
    A new slide in trailer towing/hauling brochure was issued for the 2000 Silverado's in the 99 brochure since the trucks looks didn't change just the capacities. I don't have it in front of me but there were tow rate changes for 2000.

    Ray T.
  • lseisenlseisen Posts: 2
    Confusion regarding GM tow ratings was caused because for 2000, GM changed the way the tow rating was calculated (it's now calculated the same way Ford and Dodge do); this led to apparant increases in tow ratings ... the brochure (not the manual) is correct ... Example: a 1999 Silverado 2500 which was listed as 10,500 lbs for 2000 is now listed at 11,200 lbs.
  • rrichfrrichf Posts: 212
    lseisen,
    Are tow rating calculations just another word for GM Marketing Speak? :)
    Rich
  • geddes1geddes1 Posts: 8
    I need to know if anyone out there is towing with their Silverado. I'm Pulling a 5,000lb travel trailer and am considering this type truck as a tow vehicle. With gas this high I want the extra gas mileage as a every day vehicle. Would like to here people"s experience with this truck towing. How's the handeling, and what kind of performance you're getting. Can you keep up with traffic on the highways and hills. Want to stay away from the 3/4 ton if possible
  • page3page3 Posts: 55
    I have a friend with a 1/2 ton 4x4 z71 3.73. He says it shifts to much while towing. Maybe a 4.10 would be better. On the other hand I have a 3/4 ton 4x4 with 6.0/3.73 and tow a 6500 lb trailer.I love having the transmission gauge to watch temp.allthough it has never overheated.The gas mileage is around 11 mpg average on hills 12-13 on flat hwy.65 mph. It does pull well.I have the standard suspension and have no complaints. The truck rides nice and level even with the bed full.If I was to order a new one right now for towing I would go with 3/4 or 1 ton 6.0/4.10.It just makes towing loads less stressful for you and your truck. 1/2 ton GMC/Chevy do a nice job,and they do weigh less.

    Ed
  • gotribe1gotribe1 Posts: 81
    Sounds I'm pulling the same weight range you are. I gave some thought to 3/4 ton but it was hard to get that in a 4dr. version equipped the way I wanted. I ordered 1500 4x4 with 5.3, 3.73 axle, towing package and lots more. This is my first experience towing and I am extremely pleased with the job the truck is doing. I can more than keep up with traffic, it is very stable, mileage has been 10-11 mpg with my 26 ft. 5000lb trailer. Mileage has been 16-18 mpg. without trailer. I only have 2500 miles on the truck now and expect mileage to improve a little. While the 2500 would give a little more capacity, [only about 300lbs. according to brochure] the daily mileage and ride penalty are too much to pay in my opinion. Interestingly, the price isn't much different to move up to 2500 though. But I don't think I could have got a large discount on 2500 because of availability problems. I HAVE NO REGRETS WITH MY CHOICE! Good luck with your decision.
  • jlflemmonsjlflemmons Posts: 2,242
    With 5.7L, auto, 3.73 gears and all the extra coolers (oil, transmission) the tow rating on my truck is 8000 using a weight distribution hitch. I tow a 7000lb trailer with no problem and the transmission stays in overdrive at 65 on level ground. At 51K the differential came apart, but the shop indicated that is was not from the limited amount of towing I had done, but that the gear lash had been set up wrong from the start. Remember all the complaints about 'clunk' in the drive train? Bingo.
  • rayt2rayt2 Posts: 1,208
    Just put 450 miles on towing 3600lb. 19' travel trailer @ 65/70 mph. thru NY, Conn. & Mass 10/11 mpg. The tow/haul mode invention was the best thing Chevy/GMC ever designed.
    Y2K 2500 ext. cab shortbox, auto. 5.3L, 3.73 Locker & tow pkg. No complaints just raves........

    Ray T.
  • quadrunner500quadrunner500 Posts: 2,728
    Another "I didn't buy it, so no one else needs it" post about 4wd. Time to get grip. It's not about status, but apparently it IS about envy. How regrettable!
  • geddes1geddes1 Posts: 8
    Are you towing with this in overdrive or are you keeping it in 3rd while towing.
  • gotribe1gotribe1 Posts: 81
    Geddes, with the tow haul mode you can actually use overdrive while towing. The computer will allow transmission to shift into overdrive if conditions warrant. Its a great system.
    Mannwi... if 2wd is all you need good for you! But do you ever drive through muddy campgrounds, up wet boat ramps, in mountain snow storms? I think you get the picture. There aren't many vehicles worse in the snow than an unloaded 2wd pickup. I've had 3 of them. Higher resale on 4x4 almost makes it a free option, sort of like A/C. Oh, by the way, The gas mileage on my 5.3l with 4x4 is better than my last truck which had 100 less horsepower and was 2wd. I think the EPA rates both 4wd and 2wd the same or very little difference. Not trying to offend... but sorry if I did!
  • mannwimannwi Posts: 29
    To answer your question, Geddes.

    In my post I referred to 4th, 3rd, 2nd, etc. Some folks call 4th overdrive, and I suspect that is what you mean. The only way to get the truck in 4th is to put the shift selector "D". It will go into 4th earlier without the tow/haul mode selected, but it will also go into 4th in tow/haul, but not until you get above about 60mph. If you don't want to go into 4th, just select "3" on the shift selector. Sometimes I use "3" when I don't want it to go back and forth and there are a lot of hills with a strong head wind. You can also use tow/haul and go under 60mph, but I usually go faster.

    Hope that helps.
  • mannwimannwi Posts: 29
    Your attributing envy to a very well thought out buying decision, by someone you don't know, is totally without logic. I feel sorry for people who think that way, and wish you all the best anyway.

    On the emotional side, I actually feel superior by buying the right vehicle. Everyone has the right to make their own choices for their own reasons....just letting you know what I feel, and it ain't envy.

    On a snowy trip to Minneapolis last winter I counted the vehicles in the ditch on I94 and the expressways around the twin cities.....80% were 4wd......might say something about driving lessons.
  • rayt2rayt2 Posts: 1,208
    The snipping at each other brings us back to school days which I would assume we all graduated from with lessons well learned, to each his own with the choices life brings us..........
    Now kiss and make up guys..........Life's to short

    My preference is also 2WD and all my driving lessons have been Seat Of Pants learning experiences LOL

    Ray T.
  • geddes1geddes1 Posts: 8
    Are you getting much squat down in the rear end with this set-up? I've read some back-ends are dropping 3 inches. Of course they didn't say if they had a weight dist hitch or not. Neither did they say if they had the z71 set-up. thanks..
  • barney50barney50 Posts: 3
    I have a 2000 Silverado 2500 extended cab 4by. It has a 4.10 rear axle and I have been towing a 29' 5th wheel. Trailer wt. is 8500 # No problems what so ever, always pull in 3rd gear usually maintain 70mpg on the interstates. Gas mileage towing 8-9 mpg. Mileage alone 14-15 mpg. Only replacement I made was new HD Bilstine Shocks on the truck to better control the 1800 Hitch wt.
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