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It came with automatic transmission, convenience package ($630), all weather package ($110), rear spoiler ($200), mats ($150), and rear bumber protector ($65) for $13,585, including the delivery etc. fee.
So far I can say that the heavy duty heater in the all-weather pack works very well. After 40 odd miles, the gas gauge has yet to move. My first stab at burning music to an MP3 CD from my computer was successful. The Yaris scanned for a few seconds then started playing. Reads ID tags, does not require a playlist.
Other differences noted so far - the automatic has a gated shifter (detents left and right as well as the usual forward and back motion) with any of the lower 3 gears selectable for engine braking. With a little practice there should be little need to even look at the indicators. The Xa has the usual straight shifting.
Lots of storage compartments, cup and bottle holders. Electronic power steering is standard - no hydraulic pump, just an electric motor assist.
The engine fills most of the space under the hood. Various small components are scattered around the outer walls of the compartment and that is about all the is easily visible.
Forward view is much like the Prius - big windshield with no visible hood. It is 100% Japanese made.
With the back seats up, the hatch has little storage, but almost identical to my old Tercel.
Still studying the manual. Further testing is slowed by a late winter storm. So far, a nice runabout vehicle.
So far on all items that were puzzlers, the manual has a perfect batting average - much better than the guesses by me, the salesmen or the service people.
The computer sees all in this model. To start the engine, just briefly click to start and release the key. The computer continues cranking until it fires, or it hits a 20 second timeout. It was cold enough this morning to prove that easily. The computer added another second to my half second. I have been warned that mileage should improve during the first few thousand miles as the computer adjusts to my driving patterns. Apparently, the electronic steering even varies the power assist depending on whether you are correctly steering out of a skid or making it worse. Reward good humans. Punish bad ones.
Sounds like you are familiar with the Scion xA too. Can you tell me how the ride, sound proofing, and stability feel on the freeway compared to the Scion? Or just in general?
How is the throttle response? Any lag time with the electronic throttle, when pulling out in traffic, for instance? (Had a 2005 Ford F150 that had HUGE lag time, made it waay scary to pull out...)
I've been waiting for the Yaris to finally arrive, and now that it has, I'm getting excited. Keep up the reports, both likes and dislikes...
Interesting. This sounds like the same feature which is much-ballyhooed (by MB of course) on their B-Class. Even has a name for it --- Steering Assist.
Buying Experience: I bought on May 19, from my local Toyota dealer. I just happened in one day (I was looking for a few weeks) and they had two onsite. A black hatch (sold, the night before) and a Blazin Blue that had arrived the night before. I drove the Blue and bought it in an hour. It didn’t have all the features I wanted, but it was available and ready to go. After asking for some deals all I ended up with was one extra free oil change (one was included with the purchase). Bottom line is I paid MSRP $13,320.00. I’m a haggler and there was no getting around the price. If I had not bought it, it would have sold the next day.
Gas Mileage: I have been averaging about 37 MPG, mostly HWY.
The Drive: I love it. It is quick (auto) enough to pass at 80 mph on the HWY. Corners nice and I love the view from the windshield. Nothing but the roadway. You can’t even see the hood!
Best feature: Storage
Worst f non-feature: No cruise control.
Tip: Buy off E-Bay for the extra’s it didn’t come with. I bought mudguards and armrest below invoice. I plan on getting a spoiler and cargo net.
Hope this helps anyone considering a purchase. I really do love it! I have yet to see another Hatchback on the road.
As a side note, I went to my dealer yesterday to pickup my plates and they had a white Hatch for sale! Are people still having trouble getting a Hatch?
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I just returned from looking at one at local dealership that advertised they had two in stock. One was missing; the other was marked 'SOLD'. Interestingly, it was the same price you indicated you purchased yours for and the color was Meteorite Gray. I took many pics on my cell phone camera because it's hard to locate them in my area (plenty of sedans however) and if you're not quick, the Liftbacks are here today, gone tomorrow.
Could you answer a few questions? First, did you find the driver's seat to be comfortable for long periods of driving? I keep reading reviews that indicate the seat cushion is short and not comfortable. The Liftback also doesn't have a lever for height adjustment of the driver's seat. I'm 5'-9" and like a clear view of the roadway, with no dashboard obstruction of any kind to block my view. So, do you sit high in the seat? Is a car seat cushion necessary for a better view?
I want the power package and the alloys/fog lamps, but dealers are telling me that's a special order and would take a while to receive. Just wondering if you're totally pleased with the base package overall, and if not having power everything is a big deal? Any help you could offer would really be appreciated. Thanks, and congrats again. I really envy you!
1) I drive at least two hours a day in the Hatch. I find the seat comfort to be adequate. It is a little stiff, but that actually makes my back feel better than a really soft seat.
2) I'm about the same size as you and have a clear and unobstructed view of the roadway, with no height adjustment needed. With the speedometer in the middle there is nothing to get in the way of your view.
3) I personally don't mind not have the power package. So I have to roll the windows down or get the key out to get in the car? Once I'm rollin I really don't miss it.
Good luck finding one. I think once you drive one you can see for yourself if the Yaris hatch is a good fit for you. It suites me just fine.
Mike
Good suggestion about the gas cap.
Kevin
Considering it does not have cruise control, the seat belts are not heighth adjustable, the gearshift is not lit up, and mine is only getting 23 miles to the gallon in the city, you'd think the seatbelts wouldn't be so annoying! Have you tried locking it with the remote while you're inside it (accidentally)? Don't, b/c it screeches. Also don't leave the key in for more than two seconds with the door open, it hates when you do that!
I have a liftback with the 5 speed, AC, Power package. When I shift gears, the engine doesn't slow down right away, it takes about 3 seconds to return to idle speed. It does the same thing sitting still, and it has done it since the day I drove it off the lot. I had the dealer check it out and they told me that the computer does it to "burn the unburned gas in the combustion chamber", which doesn't make any sense to me at all. Has anyone else noticed this behavior?
And if you think it's bad in the Yaris, try driving one of the GM compacts with the Ecotec. Both the Ion and the Cobalt does this so much that it's hard to get a shifting rhythm going if you're driving manual. I was stuttering then lugging in every gear for the first five minutes of the drive, making me look like a lame-brain novice to the salesman when in fact I have 20 years-plus experience driving manual.
I have driven the Yaris manual a couple of times now, and the effect is much less pronounced in the Toyota than it is in the GM cars. Most of the new cars do this to some degree these days. Of course, for the ones that are auto-only, it is much harder to notice or detect this behavior, as you never have cause to rev the engine and listen for the revs drop after you let up.
2014 Mini Cooper (stick shift of course), 2016 Camry hybrid, 2009 Outback Sport 5-spd (keeping the stick alive)
I bought the MT, and it's peppy and smooth.. no problem on the freeway - in fact, I have to be careful because I find myself going too fast in this car.
I like the stereo - for factory, it's pretty good (and good enough for me) and I think it's awesome that I could plug in my iPod nano and have all my tunes/podcasts on the road with me.
So far, I am a very happy driver!
Here's why: I was going to go with the Hyundai, just because of the price. However, the damned thing just felt CHEAP; there's no way around it. I liked the feel of the Scion, but not the 4-doors. So after doing all this research, I jumped, like a fool, on the Toyota band-wagon.
I hope it works out OK....
I love it! :shades:
Getting 26 mpg tops and now this... i hate this peice of [non-permissible content removed] car!
2014 Mini Cooper (stick shift of course), 2016 Camry hybrid, 2009 Outback Sport 5-spd (keeping the stick alive)
2014 Mini Cooper (stick shift of course), 2016 Camry hybrid, 2009 Outback Sport 5-spd (keeping the stick alive)
We have to watch out for our beer! lol...
Also, can anyone explain the difference between the "A" and the "B" versions of these cars? Does the "B" signify a second-gen 2007 model?
I believe the manual also recommends no revving over 4000 rpm at any time in the first 1000 miles - you can check the manual on that one.
no hard braking for the first couple hundred miles, to give a chance for the front pads to mate to the rotors.
Don't do the 1000-mile trip to Grandma's in the car until it has at least 1000 miles on the odometer, and if you do take long trips on the highway, vary your speed every once in a while.
If you have a manual, it can help a lot to leave it in gear when decelerating, as that helps the rings to seat, which will contribute greatly to decreasing oil consumption later in life (the car's life, not your own! :-P)
2014 Mini Cooper (stick shift of course), 2016 Camry hybrid, 2009 Outback Sport 5-spd (keeping the stick alive)
It's not a "second-gen" though. Just built later in the cycle. It helps us dealers know when a 2007 MY car built in 2006 will change over to 2008.
It also can mark a change in MSRP or new available option groupings (so good news for those waiting).
T
can you find out for us what is different between the A and B versions of the Yaris?
Thanks
The only difference of note is the MSRP, which went up $100. That and availability of different option groupings should start appearing in different regions (all those waiting on ABS/Side Airbags rejoice lol). We have 2 on the ground with ABS/Side Airbags already. I think one is about to sell though... good thing they're cooling off
T
For the record we put 140,000 miles on our 1992 Camry, 103,000 miles on our 2000 Tundra, (no problems and excellent resale) and still have 60,000 miles on our 2003 Highlander. This will be 5th car purchased from this dealer. We will be putting a tow bar on the front next spring to tow it behind our motorhome.
By the way we are paying full sticker , and we are glad there was no premium added to that price.