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Brock
..you are absolutely right about that V-6!!!
I drove my old college buddy's automatic V-6, was so taken with the SOHC that I got a 6M.
Now - per Car and Driver - I get sub-six to 60; the quarter comes up in 14.5............plus I've gotten tantalyzingly close to that barrier (at least for the six) of 40 mpg.....
great car (even greater when you shift for yourself)
best, ez......
The coupe was too small for me, and the sedan didn't offer a 6-speed when I got my 04! My loss, I know. I had a Gen 5 Accord 5-speed and it was fun, despite being fairly low on power.
These are great cars ez!
BBB
...the six is much more fuel efficient than the average joe sixpac would think.
..and without question, the six (with the manual trans you mentioned) is one fast little dude.
Next model year will offer VCM - fuel efficiency certainly isn't going down with three of the six dormant at freeway speeds (below 82 that is)
..best...
.ez.
Any thoughts on the impact of Subaru coming to market with an AWD, diesel wagon on the market share of the incoming Accord diesel?
Obviously the question is not relevant to the I4 vs V6 Accord forum but it's going to have to become I4, V6 or Diesel forum pretty soon anyway, right?
I would certainly cross shop the 2.
I have been trolling the posts for quite some time in order to come to a decision on my future car purchase, Figured I'd finally add my $.02.
My decision has been filtered down to either the EX-L I4 or the EX-L V6 6M. With the new 08' coming out soon, the 07' Accord is by far the best value/choice out there!
For my personal needs I want the fuel economy of the I4 as I commute over 150 miles a day to work and back, almost all highway. But, I definitely want some good torque to pass those semi's as 30% of my commute is a 2-way highway. I love the dual exhaust look and extra power of the v6 and was wondering if I can have the best of both worlds. Has anyone converted their I4 to a dual exhaust...and how much HP did it add?
Or, should I just go with the 6M and take the hit of $36 more in gas a month and just have fun right out the door?
Thanks in advance!
-javageek
thegraduate- the I4 has plenty of passing power. Select the 5-sp manual and you'll have no problem.
Me- get the v6 m6. $36 per month gas is not a whole lot to get upset about. Your commute sounds eerily similar to mine and I certainly enjoy the v6. You can 'go easy' and get (pretty) good mileage or hammer it and get there quicker.
Both responses are correct. It really depends on whether you are interested in slightly more speed or slightly better mpg.
You'll be happy either way.
I have an I4 manual but I'd never compare the passing power to the V6. I don't find myself in passing situations all that much but I love the fuel savings. When I need it to go, it goes but I know the V6 would "go" better. I found the advantage of the smaller engine to be better for me.
I would imagine if javageek is considering the V6 manual, he/she would also be thinking about the I4 manual. Unfortunately, I can't answer the direct question about putting a dual exhaust on the 4 because I haven't even looked into it and don't know anyone who has.
Then again, you could put a giant gull-wing on it, some neon under the body and drop the suspension, then you'd have a whole new re-sale audience for it. :shades:
Mrbill
I have an I4 manual but I'd never compare the passing power to the V6. I don't find myself in passing situations all that much but I love the fuel savings. When I need it to go, it goes but I know the V6 would "go" better. I found the advantage of the smaller engine to be better for me.
Everybody is saying the right things, as there are lots of right answers. I do have an automatic, and I do recognize it is the slowest combo of engine and transmission Honda sells. It is also plenty powerful for my needs, and even my wants. The midrange torque on the 4-cyl is unreal considering the great economy.
If you do a lot of highway, you will appreciate the V6's extra power. I do a lot of freeway in my 4-cylinder, and have never really needed any more than it offers. The V6 and the 4-cylinder are similar in feeling/usable power around town, but above 50 MPH, the Accord V6 leaves the 4-cylinder's in the dust.
I guess lucky for me, Accord's come with a cabin-dust filter!
Yeah, I'm predictable, but I'm also honest. With the Accord, here's the short answer.
I4 = Good power, GREAT economy
V6 = Good economy, GREAT power
Drive em both and decide.
That puts it pretty close to the last generation V-6 automatic (evan a tad faster).
Of course the current V-6 stick is very fast, getting to 60 in just under 6 seconds.
Gotta drive em both.
BTW it is not just the money for gas - the V-6 actually costs a little more as well.
I4 - 8.1 seconds
V6 - 6.6 seconds
All numbers are from Motor Trend Magazine.
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got a good laugh out of them too.
Yeah, the risk in jeopardizing the warranty for a small amount of HP and probably large hole in my wallet is not worth it for me.
I would still be curious to know the results if someone has made that conversion.
Anyway, I know I can't go wrong in choosing one over the other, as they both have their own strong points with an equal base of style, dependability, and comfort. I guess the only fear I have, is if I do go with the V6, it would be such a big jump over my now 250,000 mile Dodge Neon 4 banger I could not contain myself in opening up the throttle and it costing me in speeding tickets!
I plan on waiting another month or two before I pull the trigger as I have heard July would be the most opportunistic time to get the best deal. Once I do - I will definitely post my results and driving experience. Thanks again for all your comments!
Good job on 250,000 miles. My Integra is at 230,000. Still on the original clutch.
When I purchase my Accord, I will be disappointed if it does not last past 220k without any engine/transmission issues.
Given the fact the that I see over a handful of 10+ yr old Hondas each day on my way to work gives me a strong vote of confidence that I will not be disappointed. If I can get a Neon to last 250+ and still going without any major problems, I am pretty darn confident that the Accord will not let me down.
My grandfather's 1987 Civic Wagon had 255k on his 4-speed Auto when he sold it. I know it's not an Accord, but it is a testament to Honda trannies.
Our Chryslers both needed them before 35k. That was the 90s though, I hope they've improved.
An 06-07 Accord I4 stick is as quick to 60 as the last generation BMW 530i automatic (both about 7.5). Of course the BMW stick shaves about .7 seconds further.
Both engines will go fast enough to get you killed. A patch of ice is just as dangerous with either engine. The V6 can go faster, but has more safety features, so it can be more dangerous, and it can be safer. Depends on the situation.
I have been satisfied with my I4 Accord SE. I'll be passing on this car to my son at the end of the year, and am seriously considering trading my high-mileage (182,000) Malibu in for a new Accord in about a year or two.
I don't doubt that there will be a premium, it will be interesting to see how they position the diesel. I hope they follow the same pattern as the manual option, right across the whole model line. So if I am saving my pennies I could get a stripper model or if I want to get leather and all the fun stuff I can still choose a diesel.