Performance specs on Chevy/Ford/Dodge
chandler1989
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Does anyone know where to get performance
information on Ford's, Chevy's and Dodge's?
Info like HP, torque for each different engine
size. I've always been a Chevy fan, but I would
like to know the facts before I buy a new Chevy
pickup.
information on Ford's, Chevy's and Dodge's?
Info like HP, torque for each different engine
size. I've always been a Chevy fan, but I would
like to know the facts before I buy a new Chevy
pickup.
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But in my opinion,the Ford was ok,the Dodge was tolerable,but the Chevy 5.3 was great!I ended up buying a 00 GMC Sierra(I like the dealer)4x4 4dr short bed ten days ago.It runs great,is faster than a Ford by a noticable amount,and WAY quicker than the Dodge.Drive all three,it's not really even close,sorry Ford guys..
I liked the looks of the Dodge better,but it came down to the GM for two reasons,the bigger cab,and the MUCH stronger motor.Mine is getting stronger everytime I drive it..
You're stating to sound shrill. All that gushing over GM...;)
Stick that in your pipe and smoke it Roc!
LOL
- Tim
I also was able to get every specification off of Chevy's website. Dodge's was OK, they gave you some stats. FORD doesn't list a THING. Is this due to there lack of power?
Ryan
Oh...How silly of me. Gosh everyone, Chevy motors gain 15% in hp after break-in. That is why they don't list it....er....oh...it's not true? Yeah--give me the "engineer/mechanic" experience from your Dad's company but don't tell me 15%!!
Tim,
Dunkel affects the brain more than Miller...
What motor/tranny combo you got?
Curb weight on your truck?
I'll give you a run in my little QuadCab....
What are the specs on your truck? I could believe you've got a better 1/4 mile time, but 0-60?
My stock specs-
Dakota Quad 2wd with 4.7l (235 HP, 295 torque), multispeed auto, lsd, 3:55 rear:
Curb weight: 4150 lbs
0-60: 7.4 seconds
1/4 mile: 15.84 at 87 mph
Skidpad: .77
I gotta believe a regular cab Dakota with same motor/tranny as mine is the fastest stock midsize/fullsize truck (1/2 ton or smaller) besides the SVT Lightning. Even the R/T Dakota with the 5.9 /auto is slower than my truck, which is why everyone's buying the new 4.7l.
Happy racing! Hope you had a good Holiday weekend-
-quark
Really? That's pretty sneaky of them...only by dealer or can any mechanic do that?
I DIDN'T QUOTE ANYTHING.
I'm just saying that it was noticed that at first the engines would not rev past 4800, and some time later, they would rev up to 50 something.
I am a mechanic and engineer, i don't need to call anyone to make me feel better.
if what my friends quote is true, the logical explanation would be that in the program, there is just a rpm limiter (just like speed limiter) that expires after a certain number of miles.
the fact the new engines start feeling stronger after a while could simply be a product of break-in.
Spouting credentials doesn't make people right. Man, some peoples egos.
There is a big difference between reprogramming/reflashing or hitting a limit. so if thats what you told your friend, thats not what i said.
There is LOTS of proof that folks in the public and in this forum know LOTS more about these trucks than some of the mechanics, managers, and salesman.
Spouting off some friend working at a dealership that could be the janitor for all we know isn't any more credible than what I said. No wait, its less credible, because i'm an engineer.
Unless you like accountants, financial consultants, or Roofers(!) to design your cars, computers, homes, and bridges.
Sorry if you think I have an ego. I have an engineering and mechanic career, but apparently you're background makes you much more knowledgeable about engines and cars. Ask you're all knowledgeable encylopedia friend why the engines pick up more mileage and power with age than previous generations of engines. We're all dying to know his answer. I step aside.
Tim, I'm done here, you wanna pick up?
- Tim
(Like two monkeys fighting over a banana...)
"I have an engineering and mechanic career.."
huh? Do you mean you have an engineering and mechanicAL BACKGROUND? You're, your, which is it?
Do you have a bumper sticker that reads "I are an engineer"?
Even us dumbf- Dodge Dakota guys know that the majority of new engines are built with extremely tight tolerances-hence the rise in performance and economy after the 1st few thousand miles...
As far as a rev limiter that magically goes away....well that would be an example of idiot-proofing, wouldn't it? Is that specifically aimed at the GM market?
Cdean, the bottom line is he said it doesn't do it. Now if a computer changes a function based on a timed event without any outside programming; what do you call it? This is a serious question with no sarcasm intended. BTW I read the 12 year GMC tech. your post verbatim and I'm sorry if he hurt your feelings by laughing.
Quark. I was mechanic-ing on everyting from car engines to 1500 hp diesel industrial engines since I was old enough to pick up a wrench. Went to college and got a degree. Now i'm an engineer. Did I stop being a mechanic? You just keep on keeping Mod happy. however that is.
Mod
if a computer changes a function w/o any outside programming IT IS CALLED PART OF THE PROGRAM. Please email me, and i will write you a sample code of how a vehicles FACTORY INSTALLED software can do it.
where did you hurt my feelings? You were hypocritical in Post 16 and 19. and I proved it. And you never answered any of the technical challenges or questions I asked you. Can you answer them? I said early on this was my educated guess. So you're friend laughed at my guess. if he exists.
I asked Trucksrme and he laughed at you AND he laughed at Quark99, too. i'm really sorry about that. I didn't mean to try to be a jackass. I was simply trying to hide my jealousy.
So what was your mileage increase in the last 10k miles? Power any better? 5%?
Oh, next time you get in one of your favorite past-times in those Tundra topics, I have some advice i recieved from an old friend: "Never argue with an idiot. They'll drag you down to their level, and beat you with experience."
Why would GM tell customers their engines were going to do it? I don't think they would. That seems like one of those behind the scenes things the customer shouldn't care about or HAVE to think about. Look at all the worried folks around here about their new engines. this feature would make the engines a little more "worm-proof".
Related question-Does GM offer aftermarket "performance computers" like Mopar does for their vehicles? Have some experience with the Mopar units, but because they all require switching to premium gas am hesitant to add to my truck. It's a little different with a Neon-who cares about paying $2 a gallon when you're still getting 30-38 mpg...also, please educate the this GM-impaired quality engineer from CA...does the new GM line of truck motors require 5-30W oil, due to tight build tolerances
thanks, quark
Post # 14 you say "I have legit proof." nothing about a guess.
Hypocritical and you proved it? Maybe vocabulary isn't a prerequisite for engineering. How was I ever hypocritical? Argumentive? Maybe. Curious about origins of "legit proof" absolutely!!
Answering your technical questions? I saw one and I thought it was answered already.
Dude, it's obvious you have an ego and if you worked hard for your pieces of paper maybe you have a right to be. You never hesitate to put in your two cents when you think someone is wrong but get really defensive if someone questions your vast knowledge. "The best truck for logging" was a perfect example of you getting your feathers ruffled and you were wrong.
I'm not here to "brag" about degrees and act like a know it all. I'm here to learn and see others opinions. And I will question those I don't agree with.
BTW your little plea to Tim really shows your true........ Never mind, have a nice one and I'll try not to converse on your hallowed facts.
I'm not sure about the increase in the last 10K or not? I drove almost all highway that tank...but usually drive a lot anyway....was it due to that?..or has mileage gone up?
I have also been messing around with Octane lately....used to always use 93....even with high prices and one day I was ticked about something...can't remember....and put in 87....then 89 for another reason...then 93....then i was talking with a service manager about Chevelles....and next thing you know we are talking octane...
He said to use 87 as the book says....I said 93 seemed to give better power...he said it was designed for 87 and using 93 is not letting it run right and possibly clogging the injectors in a round about way...
I am going to use 87 for about 6 tanks and let it adjust and see how she runs...
I had about 1000 lbs in the back last night....and i could swear it seemed lagging sometimes....even dry on highway passing and entry it seemed a little off.....is it my mind just knowing 87 is running?....or does this puppy really like 93?
I do notice an overall power increase feeling....but perhaps It's due to just using it harder as the miles go on?
I'll let you know
- Tim
I don't know of any GM computer upgrade product. I didn't know Mopar did that. Yes there are aftermarket ones, but they are not GM made.
All new engines have been requiring 5W oil for several years now. Its partly because of tight tolerances, but not totally. basically the lubrication systems are now designed for 'flow', where as in the past they used to be designed for a viscosity. I use 10W here in the South, since 5w looks like water. Yes, general rule of thumb is tigher tols=lighter oil.
I would definitely use 87 octane. thats what the book says, then thats what they were designed for. basically with computer advanced timing, there's no need for hihger octanes. i guess except for the folks that are having knocking trouble.
Mod
You are correct, I mislead in Post 14. When i said "some' legit proof, i should have said maybe. yes, you do need a vocabulary as an engineer, but not here at Edmunds.
I get defensive when I think i'm right, not cuz someone thinks i'm wrong. I'm only wrong on days that end in 'y'.
Sorry if I get under your skin dude, but I am me, and have been for a while. no one else has a prob. I don't mind anyone questioning my posts. thats how I learn and other people learn too. But when you use backhanded comments to do it, then it really shows your true........ oh never mind. i'm at your level again.
BACK ON THE HIGHROAD!
I am very disappointed in you! I made slight of hand joke about roofers earlier and it did not even elicit comment from you! Scared you'd get something slung on you???
I will admit I take things that people say as what they mean in a literal sense and that does get me in trouble.
Take it easy.
No. Rather, I was reading the responses and I was ready to bite on yours at post #20 until I followed up to here. Sorry, I was at qualifying today down in Dover. (It's great to be boss.)
The problem about a roofer-designed vehicle is that ladder racks are standard. Yes, even for a Neon.
Are these all preset aftermarket products, or is there a product that actually allows you to tweak each given parameter? I could see potential liability problems with the latter.
I never could justify the $100, but I do have slightly oversized tires on the truck, so i guess that could give me another reason to buy the dern thing.
One thing I DON'T want to do is run only Premium gas. i am very hesitant to change thermostat to 160. Are these absolutley necessary with the Hypertech??
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