Dodge has the best drivetrain on the market right now to bad they are about to stop producation of the 318-360. These are the last of the late sixties small block designs.
Has helped the truck industry an unmeasurable amount. Who had the first crew cabs, the first 4-wheel drive, the first REAL diesel(whether they make it or not), I think they may even have made the first extended cab. How long did it take Chevy to make an extended cab? If you check they didnt make one until 1988??? WOW they are cutting edge. Dodge started making them back in the early seventies I think. Can anyone think of a truck that stirred up the industry like the "NEW RAM". I agree Dodge did not sell many trucks before 1994 and their trucks between 1972 and 1993 were terds in a metal cladding but the old dodges from the sixties were built tough as hell. What kind of horsepower was available in the Ford or Chevy trucks before dodge came out with the magnum engines? How about a 220 hp 454? or a 180Hp 351? Dodge Got everyone attention when they had a whole lineup of engines that made over 200 hp. Dodge may have started selling lots of trucks 6 years ago but they have been a truck maker for over 40 years, they may be the youngest truck maker and they may not be the best but they do get everyones attention.
How many ex. cabs you see before the mid nineties?...once in a few years i see an older one..kinda like a pre 94 Dodge...once in a few years i see one..
Where is all this awesome engine technology now?...seems they never went anywhere FROM the 60's?...Their engines and in fact entire drivetrains are a joke. The only thing that makes them sell....is the new Body..which is why 6 years is all they have sold for. I realize looks are a big factor...but it kills me all these people who never owned a truck before...buy a post 94 Ram and say it's KING!...give me a break..
Dodge had the Hemi and the Wedge too...too bad all their "great" ideas never went anywhere..or did not see any big numbers....(kinda like now for Dodge Trucks)
I give Dodge styling credit..(although I don't like the Ram that much..it's better than the pre 94 brick wall)...but their drivetrain is lame. They also are good to get things out quick...I give them that.
Chevy VS Ford has been...and will be for a long time the topic of discussion.
had a diesel but I think it fell into the catagory of the old diesels that did nothing but stink,make noise and fail to develop power. I can remember the old diesels they sucked at best they fail in comparison to the newer Cummins B series, the Power stroke and the new Duramax.
Tim, as far as extended cab pickups go I have owned them since I started driving my first truck was a 1983 Ford ex-cab I wil never own a reg-cab. Pretty soon though I think the ex-cab market will slow way down and give way to the crew cab market, I know my next truck will be a Super Duty crew cab short bed. I do agree with you that Ford and GM will always be the talk but Dodge will be there to push them and make them create better products, personally I am a Ford man but I own a dodge because I could get a better deal on a Cummins than I could on a Power stroke.
will be the thing now...with the super short boxes...but I will stick to Ext.cab SB combo....a 5 foot bed is too short...and a crew cab 6.5 box is too long...(I can drive it...just don't want to).
If I want full size back seats..I'll get a Burb...course then I have no bed!....if the Avalanche wasn't so damn ugly....it may solve that problem with the ability to enclose 8 feet of indoor storage...
we will see
For now next truck is a 2002 HD Silverado Ex.cab SB 6.0 LT.
The magnum engines were first out in the 1992 model years. That includes the ram and Dakota. Before that including all of the 1980's all the engines produced in all the Fords, Chevy's and Dodges were detuned masses of no horsepower engines. It took Dodge to wake up both Ford and Chevy to start increasing the horsepower in their engines again also. Dont understand the thinking of Ford and Chevy owners. There engines were all detuned like the rest of them.
Dodge is probably the one manufacture that keeps pushing the envelope, this benifits all the consumers whether they buy a ford dodge or chevy. If all there was for competition was a bunch of 200HP v-8's in trucks do you think there even would be a NEW 5.3l chevy engine when the old 5.7 was powerful enough to beat the others? Dodge has a bad habit of coming up with great ideas and never following up on them, I like dodge trucks but they are slow to upgrade the only thg is when they do upgrade it effects the industry a lot.
up here in alaska over at the ford dealer all you can find is Super crews and crew cabs with a few ex-cabs all you see running around is crew cabs also.
with my dodge so far it is a 98 with the 24v Cummins and an automatic. the closest thing to a problem was my tach died one day took it in to the dealer and they replaced the crankshaft sensor and I had the truck back before lunch. I owned a Chevy once and I fixed it more than I drove it but it was an old beater. I almost bought a new Sierra but it only had 3 doors and I could not get a diesel so that ruled out GM when I bought the dodge, Ford wouldnt deal so I ruled them out. I like the GM istrumentation all their gages have numbers and there is a transmission temp gage but the styling to me is a little bland. I am interested to see what the new dodge ram will look like and have for advancements, I know it will have 4 wheel disc brakes ( bout time) and the Cummins is gone in favor of a MB engine (big mistake in my opinion).
I agree to skip trends and get what you want...but I had short beds before they were the norm..matter of fact..never had a long bed...too much like gramps for me..
(Sorry Quad)....truck is nice...but we all have opinions...
Kinda like Blue should have pewter flares..not Black...(sorry babs)
How can you do that to me. haha Its ok no biggie we have our own tastes i think the blue/petwer looks nice but i didnt want 2 tone. Good thing too that scratch would have been a mess to fix with 2 tone truck.
Ford was first with the extended cabs. Dodge pushes the envelope because it has to. Being far behind the big 2 allows them to go for broke on certain ideas. Some work...some don't.
Actually....No. I remember Dodge and Ford ext.cabs before Nissan(datsun) was even heard of. The king cab came out in the 70's, a good 15 years after Ford/Dodge.
Well, that's what the dealership in Asheville had in their front window when I was in high school. The model was discontinued after a few years then they brought it back. I don't know when exactly. Go to a fan site for Ford trucks. I'm sure they could tell you more specifics. I'm only working on memory.
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You should really wait for the next generation of Dodge trucks. They maybe worth posting about...
Kinda like Jumbo Shrimp...or Tundra Full size...just ain't the facts..
It seems the other big bad truck maker (Dodge)...of a whopping 6 years...has gone to another head..
What about the weak trannys and bad brakes?...and the fact that the Dodge 5.9 can't even out do a Chevy 5.3?
Dodge has one thing...and they don't even make it..the Cummins...
I think the Tundra fans have rubbed off on you man?
- Tim
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How long did it take Chevy to make an extended cab? If you check they didnt make one until 1988??? WOW they are cutting edge. Dodge started making them back in the early seventies I think. Can anyone think of a truck that stirred up the industry like the "NEW RAM". I agree Dodge did not sell many trucks before 1994 and their trucks between 1972 and 1993 were terds in a metal cladding but the old dodges from the sixties were built tough as hell. What kind of horsepower was available in the Ford or Chevy trucks before dodge came out with the magnum engines? How about a 220 hp 454? or a 180Hp 351? Dodge Got everyone attention when they had a whole lineup of engines that made over 200 hp.
Dodge may have started selling lots of trucks 6 years ago but they have been a truck maker for over 40 years, they may be the youngest truck maker and they may not be the best but they do get everyones attention.
How many ex. cabs you see before the mid nineties?...once in a few years i see an older one..kinda like a pre 94 Dodge...once in a few years i see one..
Where is all this awesome engine technology now?...seems they never went anywhere FROM the 60's?...Their engines and in fact entire drivetrains are a joke. The only thing that makes them sell....is the new Body..which is why 6 years is all they have sold for.
I realize looks are a big factor...but it kills me all these people who never owned a truck before...buy a post 94 Ram and say it's KING!...give me a break..
Dodge had the Hemi and the Wedge too...too bad all their "great" ideas never went anywhere..or did not see any big numbers....(kinda like now for Dodge Trucks)
I give Dodge styling credit..(although I don't like the Ram that much..it's better than the pre 94 brick wall)...but their drivetrain is lame. They also are good to get things out quick...I give them that.
Chevy VS Ford has been...and will be for a long time the topic of discussion.
- Tim
Tim, as far as extended cab pickups go I have owned them since I started driving my first truck was a 1983 Ford ex-cab I wil never own a reg-cab. Pretty soon though I think the ex-cab market will slow way down and give way to the crew cab market, I know my next truck will be a Super Duty crew cab short bed. I do agree with you that Ford and GM will always be the talk but Dodge will be there to push them and make them create better products, personally I am a Ford man but I own a dodge because I could get a better deal on a Cummins than I could on a Power stroke.
If I want full size back seats..I'll get a Burb...course then I have no bed!....if the Avalanche wasn't so damn ugly....it may solve that problem with the ability to enclose 8 feet of indoor storage...
we will see
For now next truck is a 2002 HD Silverado Ex.cab SB 6.0 LT.
- Tim
Before that including all of the 1980's all the engines produced in all the Fords, Chevy's and Dodges were detuned masses of no horsepower engines. It took Dodge to wake up both Ford and Chevy to start increasing the horsepower in their engines again also. Dont understand the thinking of Ford and Chevy owners. There engines were all detuned like the rest of them.
- Tim
Dodge has a bad habit of coming up with great ideas and never following up on them, I like dodge trucks but they are slow to upgrade the only thg is when they do upgrade it effects the industry a lot.
Dodge does have good ideas for looks.....and gets them out very fast...but Mechanical they stink..
GM is slow to get things out...but is almost always better than Dodge.
- Tim
I owned a Chevy once and I fixed it more than I drove it but it was an old beater. I almost bought a new Sierra but it only had 3 doors and I could not get a diesel so that ruled out GM when I bought the dodge, Ford wouldnt deal so I ruled them out.
I like the GM istrumentation all their gages have numbers and there is a transmission temp gage but the styling to me is a little bland.
I am interested to see what the new dodge ram will look like and have for advancements, I know it will have 4 wheel disc brakes ( bout time) and the Cummins is gone in favor of a MB engine (big mistake in my opinion).
They are never out of style because they were never "in" style.
(Sorry Quad)....truck is nice...but we all have opinions...
Kinda like Blue should have pewter flares..not Black...(sorry babs)
- Tim
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They look like maybe 60's to early 70's?...
dunno.......don't care either
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- Tim
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- Tim
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