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I am pretty sure I could hit 20 on another all highway trip.
F150 4X4, Ext Cab, 5.4l, 3:55, all available equipment, no mods.
Keep On Trucking,
BTW, when I saw the title, English sometimes being less than clear in usage, I was not entirely sure if this was for American's who own trucks or for anyone (American or otherwise) who owns an American brand truck....
BTW Barlitz I see you in the Ranger vs. Tacoma topic and as I see it is free speech to post in any topic.
I just ordered the smittybilt bumper guard and Hella black optic lights for the front of my truck anybody have any of these itmes on there trucks.BTW I saw a disturbing site today I was crossing the street and I saw a young kid running to a cop on a detail behind the kid running was someone chasing him on a bike he had a gun and was going to shoot him,when the bikerider saw the cop and turned left and came within 15' of me he had his shirt pulled up over his head so no one could see him,It all happened quick and I didn't even realize what had happened to it was all over a couple minutes later 4 cruisers were there,don't know if they caught the kid.Its a crazy world out there and it makes you think.
Tongue-in-cheekily from a happy F-150 owner....
A buddy claims the new powerstrokes do like 130 MPH and I laughed at him given the diesel redline and common truck gearing. I should show him your post.
"I don't care if a toy is 100% american parts and
made here...the big profits go "see ya!!"..."
I don't see any of the big three giving money to American citizens so why would anyone care where the profits go? Especially when a foreign company is adding factories in THIS country while American companies go elsewhere for labor.
BTW I buy American trucks but that profit comment is getting old/ignorant.
better?
- Tim
I agree with the towing, hauling, size, value superiority of the American trucks. I could give a rat's [non-permissible content removed] where the profits go. Unless I was a Big Three executive around bonus time.
LOL! Shouldn't you stay unemployed??
This is why you all should buy Ford! Only made in USA and Canada!(51st state--sorry Andy)
Barlitz,
Makes you wonder who brings these kids into this world, eh?
Roc
- Tim
way as he does. i guess we should have another
topic to make him happy.
"I'm proud to be a [non-permissible content removed] Mini-truck owner" how'd
that be mod. you moron.
...red
yourself come to own such a beautiful truck like
the f-250?
...red
If a Foreign co. buys the land HERE, pays taxes HERE and employs workers HERE. A domestic company farms labor to a different country costing American workers, builds new factories elsewhere. Why are we worried about the domestic companies profits? I understand all the pros and cons of American v. Foreign as it relates to the product. I don't get this profit thing.
BTW red, "[non-permissible content removed]" is a racist term showing your true colors and lack of intelligence.
modvptnl
Glad to see that you read your history books...
I was always curious about that fact where manufacturers like GM go to foreign countries to save money and get away from the unions. Do we still consider these corporations U.S. or a global conglomerate. And by buying trucks and cars made in Mexico, are we truly supporting the UAW and the American people? Seems to me, the best way to check is the door panel which tells you where the trucks are made. I for one will never, ever, ever, buy a truck made in Ft. Wayne, Indiana as long as I live. My '00 Silverado came from there and really, they could have it back...
Dean
manufacturers like GM go to foreign countries to
save money and get away from the unions."
I don't care where the profits go really either. I have worked union at more than one job before. In my experiences, it just allowed workers doing the same job stick me with more work than my share and made me pull the load while others called in sick 2-3 days each month, etc. I have no loyalty to unions. They had their place at one time, but really only protect jobs that shouldn't always be protected. Don't get me wrong. I think their are some really hard working people working in union jobs that deserve some job security that a union provides, but they bare the work responsibilities of many that aren't and continue get away with it.
Besides, I make much better money and have a much better work environment at both my current jobs, which are both non union.
I am all for more job security and better benefits, which unions "used" to do a good job at without allowing people to be lazy. I think now days, people see unions as a way to get paid and be lazy too, at least for some. Makes people less accountable for doing a good job.
I just think unions these days protect the wrong things.
OK that was sarcastic as I'm sure everyone can see, but Unions are still needed, look what they did to ups a couple years ago. They fought for higher wages from a multi billion dollar company that doesnt want to reward its hard working employees for making it what it is today. They forced them to give "part time" employees working 40-70 hours a week full time status, pay, and benefits.
And they fought to keep health benefits. They can be outrageous without insurance, and with a hmo you might as well not have insurance.
A proud Union employee who drives an American truck, thank you.
Jim
Unions were a good thing to protect workers in the early days of Henry Fords abused workers...but now days there is no need for them...get some good workers who are actually proud to do their job and will build good cars...instead of slacling off....
you can pipe all you want....you know and I know the truth....
- Tim
Part and parcel of the problem was the job protection that fine union provided to many guys like my acquaintance who would (when the sup. wasn't anywhere near) use a multi-million dollar computer-controlled lathe and company stainless steel blanks to make little doodads for his photography hobby. He was making approximately 5 times the minimum wage at the time. My impression was that he was fairly representative of his coworkers.
It is that same entitlement mentality without any visible loyalty to the company or its products that brings objections to unions. Past good accomplishments do not justify wrong-headed thinking. My guess is that many other hard-working, right-minded workers lost out because of the union protectionist attitude.
Superjim2000,I'm a proud IBEW local 103 Electrician up in Boston.
barlitz
Thank you for the explanation
Former member
IUEC Local 8
ILWU Local 142
people should be entitled to make a good buck...but come on...actually work for it man!
- Tim
Dean
- Tim
Employers are no saints; they will all too frequently take advantage of workers. That is why unions can be good: protecting workers from that exploitation. The problem comes when the union protects the workers from being responsible for their work. It is much easier to simply provide blanket protection. That is why unions tend to do that rather than allowing individual worker's to really be held accountable for their actions.
Some union reps in some unions undoubtedly do the right thing. Sadly, just as is too often the case with management, the union high potentates are generally more interested in reaping whatever benefits they can for themselves rather than working for the greater good of the company as a whole (thus providing for management and workers over the long haul). Our current cultural environment actively promotes the increase of selfishness. Unions are certainly not the only offenders....
In the early days of Henry Fords empire...workers were treated very badly....they would tell the white guys "we got a black man who is waiting outside to do that job better than you"...and tell the black guys the same thing in reverse...you couldn't go to the bathroom without a supervisor going with you...the breaks were short..and the work was very abusive and long...the workers were treated very badly...unions came in...and helped the workers get treated fairly......
today very little of that goes on.....now the Mob..err..union...just collects dues and says they keep it all together...uh huh.....if it's the big three or UPS or the Detroit news (which is going fine without the veteran employees)...you get the union out and some good workers in...(or tell them they can stay...but they will have to work for a buck now)...and yeah it's going to be rough at first...but any job that's new takes time to get used to. Give them time (just like the Mob employees)...and they will fall right into the groove.
Any time a company goes on strike...and replacements come in...of course they can't jump right into it...and the union says.."see...you need us"/......
In the words of S.Tyler.......
"Dream on.....Dream on....Dream on........."
- Tim
saw the biggest winers and goof offs, or welfare
recipients, as they're known, and finally
realized just why the unions were on their way
out. all they do is drive the cost of the product
up so high that the average american can no
longer afford it. sure we did things one way, the
right way, but you did'nt become a journeyman
until you went through the apprentice program
which made you a good mechanic. but also saw a
number of apprentices make only because they were
good kissbutts. so nowadays you have good and bad
working on union jobs that don't last any longer
than jobs being built by non-union workers.
our company is set up on the peace system whereas
you can make anywhere from 40-75 an hour and
sometimes more. but it better be done right the
first time or you fix it on your own time. it's
been working great, because now we have about 1-3
percent call backs as compared to 15-20 percent.
we also have excellent benefits and also ESOP
which makes everyone a part owner. i know that
one guy alone can't build a truck, but as teams
they could sure build a better truck and would
certainly do a better job if they were set up on
a similar system. build it right or pay for the
rework? they'd build it right alright.
...red
Roc
As someone said before, unions protect the workers from being exploited and, like my union has done , fought to keep the current health plan. Management wanted to save a few bucks and go with a hmo, it was practically forced on us.
Our union stepped in and said that there is no way they can alter the contract that was agreed upon ealier. My dues are a small price to pay for the benefits I get from my union.
Small price to pay for whom?
heehhehe
- Tim
keep flushing..errr...paying them dues ace....
- Tim
and I'll remind you that the subject of this particular conference is Trucks. Politics, and positions pro or con regarding union membership have no place here. This topic is being "frozen." It will be archived or deleted in the next 10 days or so.
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