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Not sure why we should put much stock in that advice given that you haven't sat in any of the new CUVs? :confuse:
On a related note, I recall that in one forum, a 6'3" gentleman reported being adequately comfortable after riding in the third row seat of the Acadia. Each purchaser needs to take an extended drive to be sure about any of the models.
JMHO.
I should point out that you can do those exact same configurations with a Freestyle and second row captains chairs.
Enjoy your Acadia. Be sure and come back and post some real world MPG numbers...
You saw that I have an Explorer right? The CUVs compared here have third rows nearly identical to the one I have. In fact, the third row of the Explorer has often been praised by reviewers for being roomier and more comfortable than most others in the class (before the CUV craze mind you). I have seen the third rows of the Acadia and CX-9 up close and personal (dealer left the doors open for us "Sunday shoppers" to take advantage of
Having said that, none of them are built for comfort but rather convenience. If you need to put average sized adults back there for longer trips then get something bigger. Still just my opinion but I'd wager it's in line with the majority's opinion.
I should also note that we bought the Explorer over a larger SUV because we do not need to put adults back there too often. We've owned it for 13 months now and have had adults back there a total of 3 times, the longest trip being 30 mins. No one has complained yet. Since two small children occupy the second row, they have to be taken out of the equation to put people back there unless we're willing to play musical car seats. Which we're not. :P
- Minivan (have had one for 10 years and loved it, but don't need one for the next 10 years)
- Acadia/Outlook/Enclave (these appear to be the "Goldilocks" ones for us - just right)
I agree with post 820...in your configuration, you won't get more room in the Acadia. In fact, you'll get LESS legroom and only a little more cargo space with one of the 3rd row seats folded versus one of the Freestyle's 3rd row seats.
Enjoy your Acadia. Be sure and come back and post some real world MPG numbers...
Why are Freestyle owners so defensive? I actually like the Freestyle - I actually think the interior of it is much more comfortable than the CX-9. The Acadia just meets my needs better. I want more cargo space with the seats folded down.
I couldn't care less that your Freestyle gets better MPG that my future Acadia. No matter what CUV I choose, it's going to give me better than the real world 15 MPG I'm getting in my 10 year-old van. You don't need to wait for real world MPG numbers on the Acadia from me (you'll be waiting awhile since I'm not in the market until summer or fall). There's an entire thread devoted to it on another forum (no I can't post the forum name - already had my hand slapped once here for doing that).
Our family will have plenty of legroom in the Acadia, and I'll have a LOT more cargo room when I need to fold all the seats down.
Tired of arm-chair test driver's spouting incorrect numbers, falsehoods and bias opinions for no good reason other than to mis-inform and more often than not never have been to a ford dealer to look at yet alone drive/own one. Not sure of their agenda as it's not meant as discussion, more often than not it's just troll's for troll's sake and as this thread is cross shopped around edmund's it's easy for people to come b!tch and complain about it. Enjoy your acadia when you finally get it, it seems like gm put the 2years of coming late to the cuv party to good use.
But, of course, that is one of the reasons why so many participate in a such a comparison topic.
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That's good. I was just pointing out that the Freestyle has greater legroom, but you're right, with ALL the seats folded, the Acadia has more space inside. So if you want max space inside with all the seats folded, then the Acadia wins, but if the priority is for max space for 5 adults, then the Freestyle will give you greater space for the passengers and about the same space for their luggage.
There's nothing defensive about this post. I'm just responding to the comment about the Freestyle being too "small," since "small" is a subjective term. Stating facts/measurement isn't being defensive. Using terms relating to "style" are purely subjective, so I don't comment on those...to each his own. And just because sales figures are poor, doesn’t mean that the vehicle is poor.
Anyway, people can make these comments all they want and I won’t respond, but if I hear incorrect facts then I’ll post what is correct. And my other car is a Honda.
You should be pointing the finger at yourself. All you do is demean the other guy's car.
Also, I am so attached to the touchpad on my current Taurus station wagon, that it alone is almost enough to swing me to buying another Ford. I wonder why other manufacturers don't offer keypads.
The hide-a-key routine saved me a trip to town with her spare keys, but crawling under the rear bumper to grab the spare key isn't a lot of fun.
http://www.fordvehicles.com/Cars/2008taurus/
http://www.syncmyride.com/#/overlay/overlay_vehicles
I am considering the 2008 Accord to replace my other vehicle though - I would not mind paying close to the current sticker price for what I saw pictures of at the Chicago auto show, esp if it is more powerful and efficient than the current generation. I just didn't want to pay anywhere near that for the current model (and frankly, I was not aware of the incentives - I priced one on Honda's site and it came to 33K the way I wanted it...you can really get them loaded w/o NAV for 24K?
Some things that jumped out at me. According to Edmunds:
The Freestyle has less space behind the third row, counter to what seems to be the thought here
The CX-9 has better acceleration than all other vehicle in the group (save the VC, not tested) and including the Sante Fe...hp/torque/curb weight indicate that the CX-9 and VC acceleration should be similar
Handling and braking was pretty much equal or better than others in the group (VC yet to be seen)
As quiet or quieter than the others
This is really interesting considering that this was a Sport with the more narrow and higher profile tires.
In all, it was a fairly positive review and dove-tailed with most of my feelings after driving the Acadia, CX-9, Pilot and Santa Fe (poor man's VC?) and looking at the Freestyle (also drove the MDX...got one now so it's on my list)
I think at this point the CX-9 might be what I end up with followed by a new MDX if I decide I can stand the (lack of) space. Need to see a VC Limited before giving it consideration...I was underwhelmed by the base model.
Well, I didn't actually mean to be defensive. I was just noting that those same configurations are available with the Freestyle, and I am interested in the real world MPG of the Acadia. It would be of interest to have the actual MPG posted in this forum, which comes up in a Freestyle search, rather than in just the Acadia forum. I don't plan to visit that forum, but this one is on my list.
This forum is about comparing the vehicles, which would include MPG...
Well said. My cars are a 2002 Civic, a 2006 Freestyle, and a 1987 Corolla FX.
Well, I suppose you could lock the spare key in the glove box of the Freestyle, and then use the number pad on the driver door to open the car (SEL and Limited only, sorry to all the SE owners).
We covered this a while back. The Edmund's numbers do not match what Ford lists. The actual space behind the third row is a bit over 20 Cu ft (including the "well"), about 17 if you somehow don't include the "well"). I don't have any idea how one could not include the "well" in which the seats fold flat into the floor - it is usable space, and is very convenient for holding shopping bags upright & etc.
Lot's of ways to look at these storage areas.
Check out the link above. Accord EXL V6s WITH Navigation for $25k. I've seen one report of an internet manager offering $1,500 under invoice, with other reports of $24k EXL V6 w/o Navigation.
How did you hit $33k? That is the STICKER price for a Hybrid with Navigation. There's not a Honda on the lot that should go for sticker price at this point (maaaybe the Fit or CR-V, but that's it.
You can always have the dealer install one for a few bucks if you want. You can add it to any Ford vehicle save for the Mustang IIRC.
The difference is that with the Freestyle, the well behind the 3rd row is so big that the 3rd row seats fold back into it...sort of like a minivan. I don't believe that any other CUV has a 3rd row that flips and folds minivan-like other than the Freestyle. I believe the 3rd row for other CUVs here have the 3rd row seat back simply fold forward. Maybe that's why the Freestyle is only 68" high and still has great headroom in all of the rows.
As far has hiding small things, there's space under the 3rd row for hiding small items. How many CUVs listed here have storage space under the 3rd row? There's probably more storage space under the Freestyle's 3rd row as there is in the closed storage bin behind most CUV's 3rd row.
Full Test: 2007 Mazda CX-9
That's because it's a station wagon. It's the FOrd 500 with an Explorer front. I must say, I do like the thrird row seat well- and all CUV's should do it (the montero SUV does) but I don't like that sub floor. THe one at the Auto show broke. The Freestlye is well rounded-the only thing I really don't like is that in 3 years, they are worth nothing!
I don't remember the detail on the Accord, other than I wanted the V6 with leather, sunroof (which came in a package that made sense), and upgraded sound (and some other minor features.)
I found it funny how Honda options their vehicles different than GM...definitely more "a la carte" for minor options, but their option packages seem to make more sense.
A very average price for an EX-V6 Accord non-navi is under $25k. A good price is $24k.
I'll chat with ya about it in an Accord forum if you like (not sure we have too much more to discuss about it, since you have already made a purchase), but I've taken things a bit off topic, and for that I'm sorry to the rest of you!
The Acadia is about 70" tall, but it has 2" more ground clearance so it works out to be about the same. The ground clearance of the Veracruz is 3" more than the Freestyle, but only 1" taller overall. It beats the Freestyle in 1st and 2nd row headroom. The CX-9 and Veracruz's 3rd row headroom is cut down by the curved back window. They'd probably be better from a headroom standpoint if they were squared off like the Freestyle or Acadia, but they definitely wouldn't have the same look.
Most people do not realize it when looking at the FS, but Ford pulled a fast one to increase headroom in the third row. The rear 1/3 of the is about 2 inches higher than the front. Ford cleverly mounted the roof rails in such a way that it appears that the entire roof is level; it isn't.
Perhaps they are speaking of the Accord Hybrid, which goes up to 33K.
Don't understand your comments, I don't read the Accord forum.
This is where experience can pay off...remember the station wagons from the 70's?? Some of the domestics did the samething with the roof. The olds Vista cruiser wagon not only had the roofline increase for the second & thrid row but they had glass panels where the roof increased in height with fold down sun visors. Sometimes old is new.
Wrong...The Veracruz is 71.1" high compared to the Freestyle 68.2 both with roof racks. see specs on below websites, so the Veracruz is 3" taller.
And, according to the Hyundai website, the Veracruz has these interior specs:
Head Room (front/2nd/3rdrow) 40.3 / 39.9 / 36.1
http://www.hyundaiusa.com/vehicle/veracruz/specs/specs.aspx
Here are the Freestyle's specs:
Head Room (front/2nd/3rdrow) 39.4 / 39.8 / 38.6
http://www.fordvehicles.com/crossovers/freestyle/features/specs/
So the Veracruz has .9" more 1st row headroom, .1" more 2nd row, but 2.5" less 3rd row headroom, so while technically correct, I'd rather have the extra 2.5" in the 3rd row and lose the .9" and .1" in the first two rows.
To each his or her own. I use the 1st and 2nd rows far more than I will ever use the 3rd so I might as well buy a good looking vehicle with a decent 3rd row rather than a very plain vehicle with no style and a great 3rd row. The Acadia doesn't really interest me either because to me, in Red, it could be mistaken for a brick. The Veracruz really has everything I need without being understyled or oversized.