By accessing this website, you acknowledge that Edmunds and its third party business partners may use cookies, pixels, and similar technologies to collect information about you and your interactions with the website as described in our
Privacy Statement, and you agree that your use of the website is subject to our
Visitor Agreement.
Comments
It all boils down to what you feel you can be comfortable with in the deal. I have never done business with a dealership that said "we wont budge", and meant it.It is all about moving cars and that is what a dealer has to do.
Under the glove box - I can see a connector taped to a wire harness.
I just need to know - so that the local Smog Check station doesn't pull out the wrongc onnector.
thanks
The first we bought at Superstition Springs Toyota at $500 over invoice in June of 2001.
The second one we bought at Scott Toyota at $600 over in March of 2002.
Both vehicle are serviced at Camelback Toyota (close to my work location).
Both of these dealerships treated me & my wife with respect and the process went very smoothly, and the service writer at Camelback Toyota has always been very professional.
If you wish or need any other info. please feel free to email me (it's in my profile)
Good luck with your purchase and enjoy your Highlander. It's a great vehicle.
Best regards,
Philip
Comments:
1) Not a single fix required.
2) Bridgestone tires should be replaced for better snow traction (like Michelin CTs),
3) Wind noise in general should be a few dB less with all windows up.
4) BTW - even my BMW generates wind bufetting with only the back windows down.
5) Brakes do require additional pressure like there is a built-in fade. I will try giving them a good workout.
6) Buy one! What a relief after owning an early model ML320.
wife & I are thinking about getting a SUV or Mini-Van, our kids are getting too big for our crew cab frontier. Ive been looking at the Highlander. Looks like a good vehicle for our needs. We will definatly need the 3rd row seat.
any comments would be appreciated.
BamaTazz
Tidster & steve What are u2 doing in here..shouldnt u2 be in the Jeep board
We're just part of the search team sent out to find you since you went missing! :-)
Good luck with your search!
tidester, host
The 3rd row seat in the HL is a joke. (actually all 3rd row seat in mid size SUV is a joke)
I have a 01 HL and can't imagine how can they put a 3rd seat inside the back (in the latest model). Seriously who want to seat there?
If you are concern about your family or friends, never never let anyone use the 3rd seat in small SUV. I watched a news report and with some common sense. They point out that there is a high risk of fatal injury for 3rd row seat passangers in case of an accident. 1) no leg room, 2) knee to high up that it might hit you in the face 3) no head room 4) very less space in the cargo if real ended. 5) poor seat support.
The 3rd row seat is just a marketing selling point. Most SUV has about 1200-1500 lb payload. If you try to carry too many people, your car just can't handle it.
Be real, SUV is for style. If you really want space, van is your choice. I have a HL and a AWD minivan. Just me and my wife, we use the HL. Family dinner with friends? I take my van, everyone is happy because they all have their own "SPACE"
If you are not happy with the crew cab space, you WILL not happy with the 3rd row seat at all. Just don't lie to yourself that a 3rd row seat can really give you the option.
Remember, is all about family 1st or personal style 1st. Some people don't like minivan because of their look and feel. But today, van looks much better than the old days. And give you "ACTUALLY WHAT YOU ARE LOOKING FOR, SPACE!"
(still like my HL though)
Speaking about safety, the optional side curtain air bags don't even cover the 3rd seat. Evidently Toyota didn't think anyone would use it either.
I saw one on the road thought it looked nice.
thanx again guys..
Bama
I have filled-up 132 times and my high (rather consistantly when travelling 65-70 mph on interstates) is 24.5 mpg.
Low hit 17.3 mpg in the city.
Hope this helps.
Thanks
mixed driving with air cond on
v6
less than 1000 miles on car
20.3 and 20.5
Thanks in advance for the input.
Winter is also a factor. Here in New England gasoline is blended to reduce emissions. We know the blended fuel lowers efficiency. Plus many start an engine to warm it up ... some even have remote starters. (That is zero mpg).
I use synthetic oil ... I think that help a little. A clean air filter is important. Tire pressure is also important, as is the load the vehicle lugs around. A vehicle hauling 3-4 250 pound people will not do as well as a lighter load.
In New England, I rarely use the A/C. But with all that said, speed is still by far the largest factor assuming all other factors are equal.
With the price of gasoline, I do all I can to get just a mile or two better economy.
On level road and hills no problem at all, will downshift and slower accelleration as expected. Over steep mountain passes it will go uphill in 2nd gear but it is out of breath and that is expected. Feels very stable crusing, no side motion at all.
This is not a 4 WD version. Did not choose it when the sales person told me that I "need" 4 WD to drive in rain...
The moon roof, stereo speakers, area near the overhead light and console all rattle. On occasion the cruise control works properly. The location of the cruise control borders on reckless. The seats do not adequately adjust, the turning radius is pathetic and attempting to accelerate in snow is a waste of time. If this is Toyota's flagship, then it's back to north American vehicles for me.
Where can I complain? The telephone survey types called me 2 weeks into the lease when the lemon still smelled like leather. I've religiously communicated my displeasure on the canned surveys received to no avail. I'd feel better after venting at the sales manager but what can he really do? Rather than just "spray and pray" my displeasure, is there an effective (Canadian) resource I can contact?
1. Was your HL purchased in Canada or USA?
2. Have you taken the vehicle back to the dealer
in an attempt to have the problems fixed?
3. I have had my warranty problems taken care of
very quickly by calling the toll free phone
number in the owners manual. This is a
regional customer service number and they seem
to make the dealer respond to your problems
very quickly.
This is pinched from another website:
A modern car (drag coefficient 0.34) with a 110 kW (150 HP) engine will be using about 4.6 kW (6 HP) of power to overcome air drag and 11 kW (14 HP) for mechanical propulsion (rolling resistance etc.) when it is being driven at a constant 80 km/h (22.2 m/s, 49 mph). When driving at its top speed of 210 km/h (58 m/s, 128 mph) it will be using 82 kW (112 HP) to overcome drag and the remaining 28 kW (38 HP) to overcome rolling resistance etc.
1. The deal is a base fwd 4cyl with Quick Order Pkg (keyless remote, cargo cover, privacy glass and roof rack), color matched mud guards, daylight running lights and floor mats. The list price including delivery is $25,787. Dealer is offering at $22,180. They are including at no charge 3 years maintenance (per Toyota Care recommendations). I would get Silver with Ash interior. Is this a good price?
2. I found the front seat bottom cushion a little short (front to back depth) and it left part of my upper leg unsupported. I noticed this on the Camry and RAV4 too. I am 6'2" and have pretty long legs. My current '02 Altima has about 1" greater cushion depth. Anyone have comment or problem with this issue?
3. How real are the problems re: rattles and tranny vibration I have read on this post? My Altima has some vibration at lights until I put it into neutral and dealer says it may be that the electronic engine controls keep the idle speed (engine rpm's) at optimum level for emissions and that the vibration is the drivetrain "chomping at the bit" to "take off" but the rpm's not quite high enough to make it move so it's kind of like tugging and letting go, etc. They recommend putting in neutral if stopped for any length of time. Any thoughts? I read in all the car mags that the 2.4L 4cyl in the Camry is about the smoothest 4 cyl in production, so this vibration issue I read about here has me concerned and confused.
Thanks for any feedback.
Bob
I don't mean to pick nits but exponential growth and quadratic (square) growth are not the same thing! Unfortunately, the confusion is widespread.
In the case air drag the growth is quadratic and not exponential.
Now, back to our regularly scheduled program! :-)
tidester, host
2) i am 6'4 and i have no real complaint about the seat. granted i've sat in better seats made by american manufacturers but i find japanese cars are all the same when it comes to a lack of ultra comfortable seats. I think that we probably like to sit in the same kind of position, namely with the front end tilted up and the back end of the seat cushion tilted down. this enables the seat to touch the bottom half of your upper leg. I admit that when I drove from maryland to new york i had to adjust the seat several times to remain comfortable.
3) I've had engine rattle since day one and it drives me crazy (purchased march 22 2004)
I have had no vibration problems.
The HL like all vehicles is a lot of compromises. I could pick on a dozen "features" I dont like. Some drivers dont care, some drivers dont know, some drivers have no idea what their buying. Other drivers over-analyze (I tend to be in the last).
On average the HL is a good vehicle for me,perfect NO, But I have never found a perfect car.
Mine is a 01 4cyl FWD with 80K mile now. I have to tell you the 4-cyl engine is pretty much same as my Camry. I was planning to get the V6 AWD and at the end I think the 4 saved me some money and not to mention now the gas price is high.
The rattles? Doesn't bother me that much since I always has my radio on but sure it's a HL problem because I don't have this problem with my camry.
Vibration? Never have this problem at all.
I have to say that the stupid $400 incentive or now a day they offer up to $1000 for "recent college graduates". I think it's just a marketing thing. In real life, how many recent college graduates can afford a new car or new truck that cost about $30K? Possible but not a whole lot I guess.
I will ask the dealer to take that $400 off, otherwise, just walk and most of the time, they will do it.
I don't think you need to worry about not getting incentives because you can always ask the dealer to throw in something like a cargo net, carpet... to make it even.
For finance, never walk to the dealer without getting pre-approved either from Toyota (toyota.com) or others like captial one.
When you tell them you are "paying cash", they will try to keep you.
And do let them know that you can always go to the other Toytoa dealer