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-Rocky
87 - $2.539 - up 4
89 - $2.659 - up 4
91 - $2.759 - up 6
93 - $2.779 - up 4
diesel - $2.899 - unchanged
kcram - Pickups Host
Chi-town is now considered to having the highest average price of 87 octane @ $3.16/gal. Yippie for us.
And the kicker is people are still driving like bats out of hell, particularly the van/SUV soccer moms and surburbanites :confuse: I just keep trudging along at the speed limit or slightly below and catch them / pass them at the lights, getting the double takes and the "How he catch up to me?" looks.
Getcha comin' & goin' is the new reality I guess.
So apparently how long it takes to get from pt. A to pt. B has little to do with how fast you travel. If that's the case maybe you should just walk. Imagine the double takes you'll get then. If you're practicing this driving style in the right lane of a multiple lane road then that's fine. If some of it's on a single lane road then you might be misinterpreting what these looks mean.
I'd like to save gas but there's no way I'm slowing down to accomplish it. While gas may be a limited resource my time is also. And last time I checked my time was more valuable than gas. I say let's expedite the process of burning all the gas so we can finally move on to something else.
Throughout history advancements in transportation have involved increases in speed. Advocating that people slow down is advocating a step backwards.
On my route, it's the typical speed to the next red-light, jump the lanes, tailgate everyone, from the large semis to the speeders and just drive like an [non-permissible content removed]. So here I am, leaving home early and with more than enough time to get to work (since I leave home in the 5:45, 5:50am range, my commute time is actually less since there isn't as much traffic as later in the morning), out here with people that left home either late, are impatient, or just drive like idiots. So why should I drive like an [non-permissible content removed] just so I can fit in with them idiots, get a ticket, and / or cause an accident that I'm going to be involved in? How is that going to allow me to get to work any faster? Explain that to me if you don't mind; I'm missing something. Like I said, it's just gotten to be worse lately; apparently the $3 per gallon is nothing to these folks. When gas was ticking up by leaps & bounds, most everyone was driving the limit, not weaving back and forth, and the like. But lately the "gotten used it" has kicked in and the driving like a mad-man / woman has resumed. Not everyday but most mornings. Driving like a bat out of hell, switching lanes back and forth like a downhill skier through the gates, just to race to the next red light, this is the way to go? When I can drive the limit and make it to the light in the same time? I can tell you the cops are loving it.
I don't drive on the weekend. I combine trips on the way to and from work.
Lastly, I'm not advocating anything, you are. I just stated what are the facts of my commute, you decided to read into it to try to make / take a cheap shot, adding erroneous words and meanings behind my statements. You should be / know better than that.
Your premium is cheaper than our regular.
WHAT !!!!! The real ULTRA' 94 does not exist anymore ????? :surprise: Why ? What happened ? That's crazy lemko. No 104 huh ? Well it's not really needed. I do not understand why they don't make 94' standard. Hell lemko, we still have some stations trying to sell 92 "slop" as premium here. You known damn well that in the Panhandle of Texas, I had to give my poor Caddy, 90' slop and finding 91' was really hard and was like Caviar, for the 02 STS and then later for the 05' TL. Your cars would of choked
on that slop !!!!
-Rocky
My experience is the opposite of yours. I routinely drive a route that has a 12 mile stretch of road where it is almost impossible to pass. The posted limit is 50 mph but it is safe to travel considerably faster than that. Until a few years ago the predominant speed on this section of road was 60 mph, it is now 50 mph. When you finally get to the end where there is room to pass you typically have 20+ drivers behind one guy that felt he was justified in imposing his will on everyone else.
I don't care if a person wants to drive slower to save a few bucks on gas. Just don't disrupt the flow of traffic.
In Nevada, you can go 70 mph on the rural 2-lanes. On busy streets in LA, the speed limit is 35. New Mexico allows 70 mph on undivided 4-lane US 550 (with conventional intersections even). The blanket speed limit in Manhattan is 30 mph. Certainly fast enough in all cases.
I'm simply saying that if you drive at exactly the speed limit or a couple miles below on a road where traffic can't pass you then you are going to piss people off.
This should be on the inconsiderate driver forum, but my response is "too bad." If someone gets really obnoxious, like flashing his lights, flapping his arms, or getting so close I can't see his headlights, then I'll find a place to pull over on a 2-lane road. Or I wave them around in a legal passing zone. Funny thing, some of these people WON'T pass when you wave them around!
I'm with jae all the way on this subject!
Back to gas prices in my home territory of central VA, it's creeping back up, with $2.69 the lowest for 87, but many places at $2.72-$2.73.
I've never been a believer in speed limits. How can a static number accurately reflect what the safe speed of travel is when there are so many dynamic factors that can affect this, e.g. time of day, weather/visibility conditions, road conditions, traffic conditions, etc.. I believe that the vast majority of drivers are capable of self determining whether or not they are driving safely and realize that the consequences of driving in an unsafe manner are far greater than getting a speeding ticket. You're obviously someone that disagrees.
Oh yeah, to keep it on the gas price thread, in So. MD the price has finally started to rise, up to $2.75 for unleaded. Keep it coming. The gas price whiners provide some good levity.
Some states definitely do a better job than others. Michigan seems to be more realistic; PA is one of the "silly" states where they try to cling to 55 on rural interstates that would easily be posted at 60 or 65 in MD or VA. Interstates are a different breed of road of course in that there are no conventional intersections, nor are there supposed to be pedestrians or bicyclists on them.
But people CAN legally choose to drive slightly below the speed limit, even on a 2-lane road. I do feel however, that regardless of the law, people with a long train of cars behind them should pull over to let the others go by. Obviously, if you're going REALLY slow, like in a farm tractor, it's generally the law to pull over.
In this regard it's interesting that Michigan has a minimum speed limit of 55 mph on its rural freeways, where the maximum is 70 mph for cars and 60 mph for large trucks (all weather permitting of course). That's definitely the highest minimum I've seen anywhere. So the message in Michigan at least is that if you or your vehicle is not capable of going 55 mph, you need to stay off the interstates.
The flip side then is if some old gent wants to take his model A Ford out on a Sunday drive, he shouldn't be run off the road by some impatient lout who can't stand going 10 mph below the speed limit on an otherwise empty 2-lane road.
There's more over in Inconsiderate Drivers (share your stories, etc.)
Still holding at $2.79 in Boise for regular unleaded.
Gas prices range quite a bit here in Wyoming/Grandville, Mi. this morning. $2.74-$2.97 for regular......... :surprise:
-Rocky
Meanwhile, back at the pump
Well today priced dropped down to 2.75.
Back home in central VA, the price is still $2.69.
I don't know about the model A Ford part but when I get behind someone doing 10 mph below the speed limit it almost always turns out to be a senior citizen. If these people feel that their skills and reflexes have eroded to the point where driving the limit is no longer safe then they are probably right. So it shouldn't be the impatient lout running them off the road it should be the cops pulling them off the road and taking their license in the process. Seriously you've got to have a pretty low opinion of your driving skills if you think that going the limit is unsafe. I suspect that if a DMV instructor administered a driving test to a senior citizen that drove in this fashion, holding up traffic, then they rightfully wouldn't pass the test.
I drove from Virginia to South Carolina last week averaging close to 75 mph. I got 31 mpg in a 6 cylinder Honda Accord that is only rated at 30 mpg highway. It's hard to believe that slowing down to 60 mph would improve my mileage by the 20% that some people claim it would. So what's the point?
Speaking of mpg, on one leg of my trip where I mainly kept it under 70 and didn't leave the highway much, I averaged 24.8 mpg...in a 3900lb 350hp car. Almost like having cake and eating it too.
Most of the stations here in Boise are at $2.79, but quite a few have bumped regular to $2.83.
-Rocky
87 - $2.539
89 - $2.659
91 - $2.759
93 - $2.779
diesel - $2.919
kcram - Pickups Host
kcram - Pickups Host
2.83 regular
2.95 midgrade
3.05 premium
and diesel popped from $3.05 to ...
$3.29. Yikes!
NEW YORK (CNNMoney.com) -- Oil prices finished at an all-time high above $89 a barrel Thursday, while the cost of a gallon of gasoline jerked higher.
Light, sweet crude for the November contract jumped $2.07 to settle at $89.47 a barrel on the New York Mercantile Exchange, shattering the previous record of $87.61 a barrel reached two days earlier.
In after-hours electronic trading light, sweet crude for November delivery went even higher, hitting $90.02 a barrel, according to the Associated Press.
Earlier in the day, crude prices scrambled to an all-time trading high of $89.55 a barrel.
Prices at the pump have been slow to respond to rising crude prices recently, but that may be changing. On Thursday, gas prices gained nearly 2 cents to a national average of $2.79 a gallon for regular-grade gasoline, according to AAA. They are up 4 cents since Monday.
"There's almost an inevitability here now that we are going to get to $100 a barrel," said John Kilduff, an energy analyst at Man Financial in New York.
Helping to lift crude prices higher was a decline in the dollar, which fell to an all-time low versus the euro and also dipped versus the yen.
Since oil is priced in dollars, a declining greenback makes oil less expensive for consumers outside the United States, encouraging more consumption.
Wednesday's news that Turkey had authorized military action in Northern Iraq also helped prop up crude prices.
Conflict along the Turkey-Iraq border could disrupt oil supplies coming out of the region and drive crude prices even higher.
"It's just a round robin of geopolitical and macroeconomic issues," said Kilduff.
Despite the recent gains in crude prices, when adjusted for inflation, oil is still slightly cheaper than the $95 a barrel or so it would have been in the early 1980s.
http://money.cnn.com/2007/10/18/markets/oil/index.htm?cnn=yes
Wyoming/Grandville, Michigan local slop prices:
$2.79-$2.99 and climbing. :sick: Better go fill up folks !!!!!!
87 - $2.559
89 - $2.679
91 - $2.779
93 - $2.799
diesel - $2.979
kcram - Pickups Host
NOTICE TO ALL.
Prior to my last fill up, I filled up at an ARCO station in Palmdale California because their advertised prices for fuel was $2.93.9 for 87 Octane, $3.03.9 for 89 Octane and $3.13.9 for 91 Octane. This was on 10-12-07.
My vehicle’s information center said that I used 24.9 gallons of fuel. This gauge has never been wrong since I've owned it, 1 year and 10 months. I have kept detailed records every time I fill up. I also do it manually and it’s always right.
At this ARCO station in Palmdale CA how ever said that it put 26.539 gals in?
I know for a fact that that is wrong. I had at least 1.5 gallons of fuel left in my tank. Remember I have kept a detailed record for the past 1 year and 10 months. I know exactly how much fuel I have left in my tank when I fill up.
If the ARCO stations pump was right then 26.539 + 1.5 = 28.039 gallons. My Tahoe only has a 26-gallon tank. If I top off and fill up all the way to the neck it holds about 26.3 gallons.
I did go into the store after filling up and after getting my receipt I spoke to the manger to let him know that his gauge was wrong and asked for a refund. He said that his gauges are checked. I showed him the receipt and told him that my Tahoe only has a 26-gallon tank and I had 1.5 gallons of fuel in it before filling up. He refused to reimburse me what I was overcharged. I told him that I would file a complaint with the BBB and DMV Licensing department. He said go ahead.
I felt like I was just totally screwed over and that nobody will do anything about it. It’s bad enough paying these high prices, but to be lied to and ripped off and charged more than the advertised price is just wrong.
So I decided to check this out even further. I drove until my Tahoe used all of its gas from this fill up. The gauge on my Vehicle said that I had used exactly 26 gallons when it ran out of fuel. I tried to start it several times after it ran out and stopped. It would not start, so it was completely out of fuel. I took a picture with my digital camera that shows on the gauge how much fuel was used, 26 gallons.
I filled back up after putting 5.3 gallons in it from a gas can. I topped it off and it would only take 21.297 gallons. So I added the 5.3 + 21.297 gallons = 26.497 gallons of fuel in the tank. I used .03 gallons of fuel prior to filling back up. So 26.497 - .3 = 26.197 gallons of fuel. Again this proves that the Arco station overcharged me and charged me for fuel that I did not get, at least 2 gallons.
I did the math three ways now and each time I can prove that I was shorted 2 gallons of fuel by this ARCO station.
I should not have gone to this station and should have known better. This has happen to me at this same Arco station at least 2 times before if not more. I did go in to the store and ask to speak to the manager each time before. I was told that he was not there. I advised the clerk to tell him about the problem with his pump’s gauge.
Their advertised price got me to come in to their station because all the other stations were $.05 to $.10 more per gallon. This Arco station has been doing this that I know of for at least a year.
I finally said enough after this last time and filed a complaint with the BBB. But I doubt that the BBB will do anything. They will tell me that they do not have the authority to do anything. I do know that they could if they wanted to recommend that the District Attorney file a complaint.
I wish that I knew who I could report this to that has the Authority to shut the place down for fraud, false advertisement, etc. and make them pay back their customers that they have been overcharging. I have kept all my gas receipts.
Accussing people of things without documented proof is just plain wrong and makes the accusser look like a fool. Accusations backed up by credible evidence will get the desired result for changes look more...credible.
Just my $.02 here as I truly believe many people accuse others of things without all the facts and it's just plain wrong. Both sides should be held accountable to the same standard!
The Sandman
I'd try two other places that you are comfortable with first before proceeding further with your complaint against the ARCO station in Palmdale, CA. I agree, fairness needs to be made fair, and you might be on to something. But they are really going to be taking the defensive on charges so serious like this and you must be sure you're right on your calculations before you proceed, I totally agree with sandman.
I wish you well as you proceed with this, johnny4016.
2021 Kia Soul LX 6-speed stick
-Rocky
$2.89 regular
$3.01 midgrade
$3.11 premium
$2.95 for unleaded
$3.15 Premium 91 octane
We are back to normal. Higher prices than the rest of the USA.
Phoenix prices are $2.55 to $2.61 for the lowest. Diesel 40 to 50 cents higher.
Gas prices look like they have settled above $2.50, and the last time USA average was as low as $2.50 was March 4th 2007.
We are due for a downturn soon, so maybe the historical trends will keep going.
Way past time to have other power sources so we can chart our own country's future course without having to deal with unstable countries with their unstable leadership. Time for the U S to do what needds to be done and then move on!
The "Frustrated" Sandman :mad:
-Rocky
The problem is analysts and speculators running the price up to make money. Oil shouldn't be a commodity market. I don't believe the Saudis have speculators running the price up in Saudi Arabia; that's happening in US.
2014 Malibu 2LT, 2015 Cruze 2LT,