It will take a whole lot more than that. The Retirement fund is under funded by $30 billion. And they expect the tax payers to kick in more for their over the top retirement plans. They expected 7.75% ROI and only made 1%. Going further into debt and no one with a brain would loan to CA.
87 octane was at $3.259 and 93 was at $3.559. Cheap enough to warrant topping off the Ram, even though it had about 3/4 of a tank. It's supposed to take mid-grade, but mid-grade is often not that much cheaper than hi-test. So I'll try to alternate fillups between 87 and 93, and never let it get below about a half tank.
Ugh, I'm driving up the road today and freezing rain is a possibility around here too. 4 inches of snow fell overnight and now we're heading for a heat wave. :sick:
Ours went from $3.19 to $3.59. The whole area was at $3.29 and went to $3.59. Strange how all the stations pick the same $3.59 price within a couple hours of each other. Well, 95% of them jump to that fixed price. Hmmm.
I was set to get gas for $.10 per gallon under a reward program at $3.19, but that flew the cuckoo's nest so I paid $.43 cents tonight. ($3.49).
Sorry for the delay folks, have been hammered at work and haven't had a chance to post, then looked up and it's February. :surprise:
Last 3 fill-ups have been $3.29, $3.35 and $3.37 for 87 octane. But like some of you petrol prices have been jumping like Superman leaping tall buildings in a single bound. Today's prices are at $3.70 to $3.90 near work. Understand my $3.37 fill-up was on Monday. Hopefully when I have to fill-up again it won't be near those prices.
Know this is off-topic but what's your thoughts of the Ram so far, likes and dislikes? Reasons are:
I've been with Fiat Group for about a year now so...
I asked here instead of the GM forum due to haven't posted there in SO long plus I really am not a fan of it anymore - lot of bad attitudes, redundant posts and am non-GM now so...
Bummer man. I mean, there's no real reason for us being right at $4/gal for 87 octane & it's the middle of winter. But it did snow yesterday & today so...
Seriously, it is in the pipeline but there is the emissions to think of, like Tier4 as well as the market. Amazingly there are still people who consider diesels to be dirty, crude, loud, noisy...take your negative pick, or only in select German vehicles. They still bring up "GM" from back in the 80s when talking domestic diesels.
The Domestics better get their act together. VW is selling 20% diesels. Audi A3 was 38% diesel. The Germans are all adding diesel models every year. Diesel is selling in CA at about the same price as Premium. Which most of the vehicles I am looking at require in their gas versions. I thought Jeep already had the GC diesel approved by the EPA & CARB.
The new Grand Cherokee delivers a best-in-class 30 mpg highway courtesy of a new 3.0-liter EcoDiesel V-6 engine for North America and a new eight-speed transmission. The EcoDiesel V-6 boasts an unmatched driving range of more than 730 miles.
Paid $3.89 for Chevron premium today. Saw another station about a mile away at $4.05 for the same thing, no apparent reason other than those fancy new pumps with advertising screens in them.
It is not uncommon here to see disparity of 50 cent or more across the street. Chevron is one of the high priced companies down here. Right now you can pay $3.89 at one station and up to $4.79 for Chevron Premium.
>fancy new pumps with advertising screens in them.
Haven't seen those here in the backward Midwest at gas stations.
I hope those aren't the flat screens with projection speakers that bombard you with sound when you're directly in front of them, are they? I hate it when the pump beeps to get my attention and gives me a personal message on the LCD screen that they have drinks or cigarettes on sale inside the store...
Average price here is about $3.40 down from $3.59 5 days ago.
I hope those aren't the flat screens with projection speakers that bombard you with sound when you're directly in front of them, are they?
All our Shell stations have those. They have been in so long now that most that get direct sun are useless. Look melted. Still hear all the BS while pumping gas.
Those are exactly what these are. They have ads, weather reports, etc. Kind of annoying. I get annoyed at the ones that ask you about a car wash etc too. Does my car look dirty? :shades:
All the extra buttons some pumps want you to push for car washes and stuff irritate me too.
I pushed the one for a car wash. Then it asks what level of car wash. Well the screen was so bad from the sun I could not tell so pushed the top one. It was for a $50 detail. Of course I went inside and canceled that one. That would be the day I detail a vehicle. Unless maybe I was selling it. Still have never had it done.
You pretty much proved my point - you mentioned VW/Audi - German companies at the core. People's impressions of D3 are that they cannot make a very good / reliable diesel unless it is for trucks. With the reality being SUVs for the most part are looked at as "cars" they feel the passenger-car diesels are not up to par.
Plus you have to remember the passenger-car diesels of Audi/VW, MB and the rest have been here for a very long time and constantly improving; domestics not so much when they were available.
Not using this as an excuse b/c you are right, we should have had diesels in passenger-car line-ups for years
I have not seen any of the EcoDiesels on dealer lots or being delivered - I can try to check once back in the office. Unfortunately with EPA / CARB approvals it doesn't mean they get approved today and sold tomorrow. Also if something changes that has to do with drivetrain or is planned for other vehicle platforms it would need to be certified for those as well. Honestly the Chrysler side will most likely concentrate more on Dart and the new offerings coming through. Fiat side is Alfa Romeo, Maserati and the EU market.
We're on course for $4 by March it seems. Looking over my charts we're running 30 cents higher this year than last, despite having more gasoline stockpiles.
Last year we hit +$4.38 late March, highest price I paid all year.
Our Costco in San Diego was at $4.26 my two fill-ups in March 2012. Same station same date in 2011 the price was $3.86. If it follows the same pattern I would expect $4.50 gas by the middle of March. Some are already selling RUG up to $4.79. Higher than the most expensive diesel. On average now diesel is only a dime more than RUG and less than Premium across the board.
Gas up the road was only a penny cheaper (so really, it's more since I didn't see a station that would take my grocery coupons). Decided to wait it out, even though I got home on empty, but the low fuel light hasn't come on yet.
The oilfields are only about 150 miles east of here in the Hobbs and Lovington, NM area. And El Paso and the rest of Texas is only 90 miles south of here. So perhaps we're given a shipping break causing a lower ghastly price. Whatever the reason, I'll happily take it!
I hate toll roads. I used the 73 going into Orange CO, CA a few times when my dad was in the Hospital up there. It cost a buck and cut off 2 miles of the I5 to I405 heavy traffic. Coming back from visiting a few months ago we decided to take that route. The charge now is 5 bucks. And the traffic was just as heavy on it as the old way.
We put 5700 miles on the Sequoia going to Indiana in 2009. We avoided every toll road. Not that hard to do. We also skirted the big cities at least by 25-30 miles. Nice country roads are so much more relaxing and scenic than interstates and Freeways. We are planning another long road trip for this Spring. I think I have a good idea where to get the cheapest gas along the route we are taking.
does the price matter when stations are running out of gas? We are supposed to get a blizzard tomorrow lasting into Saturday. I was able to fill up with RUG @ 3.899. A couple of hours later, my wife said the RUG pumps were shut off.
2024 Ford F-150 STX, 2023 Ford Explorer ST, 91 Mustang GT vert
in Alamogordo, NM, displaying today's prices for RUG.
VALERO STORE 1296
657 S WHITE SANDS BLVD
$3.09
LOWES 55
675 10TH ST
$3.09
VALERO STORE 1285
1616 10TH ST
$3.09
MIRASTAR #64027
233 S NEW YORK AVE
$3.09
It's a $3.09 RUG party!
gagrice - it's cool to see that you love taking road trips. I love to see that. I love road trips, too, and if Armageddon doesn't come before I retire in 9 years my wife and I will be taking some road trips, too. Lord willing.
Oh, totally agree 100%!! I avoid the tolls like the plague; it's so easy & they really don't save time. Outside Chicago there is the I-355 extension that connects to I-80 from I-55. If you're already on I-355 you pay a huge toll to get on the extension and the further you go the more it costs to get off to where it's $4 to get onto I-80.
There's a lot of two-lanes by me and it's great driving. Been on many of the country roads in Indiana and the southeast, all great. Took a lot of great roads when I stayed in Belgium as well. Next time in CA will do the same.
RUG - up 5 cents to $3.75! Ultra - up 6 cents to $4.01! :mad:
Just had to fill my wife's LaCrosse. Drove 2 miles further where RUG still = $3.69. She has a nasty habit of running her car almost to empty whereas I keep my ride topped-off all the time!
A Citgo went up to $3.89. Didn't look around at other stations to see if the rest followed suit. The Citgo didn't really need to bother; all the regular nozzles were out of order.
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Crazy gas station jumped from that $3.31 to $3.49 and it was the same price up the road (or worse). Glad I tanked up when I did.
I was set to get gas for $.10 per gallon under a reward program at $3.19, but that flew the cuckoo's nest so I paid $.43 cents tonight. ($3.49).
2014 Malibu 2LT, 2015 Cruze 2LT,
Last 3 fill-ups have been $3.29, $3.35 and $3.37 for 87 octane. But like some of you petrol prices have been jumping like Superman leaping tall buildings in a single bound. Today's prices are at $3.70 to $3.90 near work. Understand my $3.37 fill-up was on Monday. Hopefully when I have to fill-up again it won't be near those prices.
What the heck is going on :confuse: :mad:
Know this is off-topic but what's your thoughts of the Ram so far, likes and dislikes? Reasons are:
I've been with Fiat Group for about a year now so...
I asked here instead of the GM forum due to haven't posted there in SO long plus I really am not a fan of it anymore - lot of bad attitudes, redundant posts and am non-GM now so...
Beats me - we popped again, up to $3.64 for regular.
Seriously, it is in the pipeline but there is the emissions to think of, like Tier4 as well as the market. Amazingly there are still people who consider diesels to be dirty, crude, loud, noisy...take your negative pick, or only in select German vehicles. They still bring up "GM" from back in the 80s when talking domestic diesels.
Diesel was $4.19 at the convenience store a few hours ago.
The new Grand Cherokee delivers a best-in-class 30 mpg highway courtesy of a new 3.0-liter EcoDiesel V-6 engine for North America and a new eight-speed transmission. The EcoDiesel V-6 boasts an unmatched driving range of more than 730 miles.
2021 Kia Soul LX 6-speed stick
Haven't seen those here in the backward Midwest at gas stations.
I hope those aren't the flat screens with projection speakers that bombard you with sound when you're directly in front of them, are they? I hate it when the pump beeps to get my attention and gives me a personal message on the LCD screen that they have drinks or cigarettes on sale inside the store...
Average price here is about $3.40 down from $3.59 5 days ago.
2014 Malibu 2LT, 2015 Cruze 2LT,
All our Shell stations have those. They have been in so long now that most that get direct sun are useless. Look melted. Still hear all the BS while pumping gas.
All the extra buttons some pumps want you to push for car washes and stuff irritate me too.
I think I remember a bit on Leno where he appears on one of those screens.
I pushed the one for a car wash. Then it asks what level of car wash. Well the screen was so bad from the sun I could not tell so pushed the top one. It was for a $50 detail. Of course I went inside and canceled that one. That would be the day I detail a vehicle. Unless maybe I was selling it. Still have never had it done.
Plus you have to remember the passenger-car diesels of Audi/VW, MB and the rest have been here for a very long time and constantly improving; domestics not so much when they were available.
Not using this as an excuse b/c you are right, we should have had diesels in passenger-car line-ups for years
I have not seen any of the EcoDiesels on dealer lots or being delivered - I can try to check once back in the office. Unfortunately with EPA / CARB approvals it doesn't mean they get approved today and sold tomorrow. Also if something changes that has to do with drivetrain or is planned for other vehicle platforms it would need to be certified for those as well. Honestly the Chrysler side will most likely concentrate more on Dart and the new offerings coming through. Fiat side is Alfa Romeo, Maserati and the EU market.
We jumped a dime (and more) to $3.74 today. :sick:
Amazing how they all pick the same number.
2014 Malibu 2LT, 2015 Cruze 2LT,
The diesel is still on track for late 1st-qtr release so I'd say late-March, early-April delivery dates for the dealership at the earliest.
That yahoo-autos article left out quite a bit of info though.
We're on course for $4 by March it seems. Looking over my charts we're running 30 cents higher this year than last, despite having more gasoline stockpiles.
Last year we hit +$4.38 late March, highest price I paid all year.
Actually driving today but I bet the stations up the road are going to be the same as here. Still holding at $3.74.
Gas here did go down a couple of cents to $3.72.
Diesel is running $4.22.
657 S WHITE SANDS BLVD ALAMOGORDO, NM 88310
$3.09
The oilfields are only about 150 miles east of here in the Hobbs and Lovington, NM area. And El Paso and the rest of Texas is only 90 miles south of here. So perhaps we're given a shipping break causing a lower ghastly price. Whatever the reason, I'll happily take it!
2021 Kia Soul LX 6-speed stick
The $4.79 price, yikes!!
Our diesel is up there as well. Seems any little uptick reported about the economy, whether true or false, makes petrol prices jump.
Yes, starting saving now!! Hope you don't have to use any tolls (I avoid them like the plague).
We put 5700 miles on the Sequoia going to Indiana in 2009. We avoided every toll road. Not that hard to do. We also skirted the big cities at least by 25-30 miles. Nice country roads are so much more relaxing and scenic than interstates and Freeways. We are planning another long road trip for this Spring. I think I have a good idea where to get the cheapest gas along the route we are taking.
We are supposed to get a blizzard tomorrow lasting into Saturday.
I was able to fill up with RUG @ 3.899.
A couple of hours later, my wife said the RUG pumps were shut off.
$3.79. :sick:
VALERO STORE 1296
657 S WHITE SANDS BLVD
$3.09
LOWES 55
675 10TH ST
$3.09
VALERO STORE 1285
1616 10TH ST
$3.09
MIRASTAR #64027
233 S NEW YORK AVE
$3.09
It's a $3.09 RUG party!
gagrice - it's cool to see that you love taking road trips. I love to see that. I love road trips, too, and if Armageddon doesn't come before I retire in 9 years my wife and I will be taking some road trips, too. Lord willing.
2021 Kia Soul LX 6-speed stick
There's a lot of two-lanes by me and it's great driving. Been on many of the country roads in Indiana and the southeast, all great. Took a lot of great roads when I stayed in Belgium as well. Next time in CA will do the same.
RUG - up 5 cents to $3.75!
Ultra - up 6 cents to $4.01! :mad:
Just had to fill my wife's LaCrosse. Drove 2 miles further where RUG still = $3.69. She has a nasty habit of running her car almost to empty whereas I keep my ride topped-off all the time!
Diesel there was $4.24.
Diesel $4.15