NO!!! that is less than minimum wage. I hate waiting behind one car to get gas. I drive to another station or try another day. I would go a few extra miles to save 50 cents a gallon.
LOL, well it does save ya few miles per gallon It did for me on my Bonneville. BTW- What station do you buy your 94 Ultra at ? How much are they charging for that watered down slop ?
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And that's a sarcastic "woo-hoo" at that! Sunoco Regular fell by two cents to $2.97. "ultra?" 93 is $3.17. Hey, Rocky, that octane booster seems to have boosted my fuel economy! Maybe the $4.19 is worth the expense.
There is no Ultra 94 in Philly or its suburbs anymore. That's what's got me more fuming than the ridiculous price of gas. Sunoco grades used to be:
87 = Regular 89 = Silver 93 = Super 94 = Ultra
Now it's
87 = Regular 89 = Silver 91 = Premium 93 = Ultra
Not only did they raise the prices, but they watered it down! Geeze! I refer to that Ultra 93 as the watered down slop I have to force-feed my Caddies. I get the octane booster to make this crap palatable to them.
Lemko, stop your making my abs hurt. If your cars had to taste this kerosene, called gasoline down here they'd most definitly lock down. I'm sure the communist report lovers would still ask you to report that as having bad reliability, instead of watered down syrup.
...to send a letter to Sunoco, but I was so hot the keyboard buttons kept melting onto my finger tips and the fumes were getting to me. They still DO have Ultra 94 out in Harrisburg. I treated my '88 Park Ave to a sip of it.
At one time they had a grade called Economy which was 86 octane. Saw somebody's car hunched over a curb vomiting out oil and major engine parts with a metallic clang after a tankful of that swill!
That is FUNNY! Good to have a laugh with the high gas prices.... Can you run AV gas? i think it is 105 octane. My buddy is paying about 5 bucks a gallon for his Super Cub. Flying is as expensive as golf anymore.
I know you really take good care of your cars, and I applaud that.
But octane is really only about reducing the tendency of an engine to knock or ping; it's not really "better" in the sense of a microbrew beating out watered down Coors Light.
Your Caddies should be perfectly fine on 93 octane; it wouldn't surprise me if GM specifies "only" 91 octane for these cars.
If you really have to add octane booster, there's got to be something wrong with your engines (I doubt that).
I remember reading a few years back (before the run-up in gas prices), that premium gas had about 1/3 of sales in the US, even though the vast majority of cars on the road need only regular. Naturally, this overuse of premium is encouraged by the oil companies by promoting it as "better." I think Exxon even was fined (or issued a "cease and desist" order) by the FTC to stop such misleading advertising.
Does anyone remember in the 60s that Mobil used to promote something they dubbed the "megatane" rating in their TV ads? It was supposed to be a "truer" measure of a gasoline's quality than mere octane.
I know it's really psychological. I just like to believe that I'm giving them the best. I probably could get away with 91 octane or even lower, but it's a mental block I just can't budge. It's like you take you're girlfriend out to nice dinner and you want a good wine with it. The place used to serve really good wine and all they have now is Mad Dog or Night Train Express.
You don't need to travel all the way to Harrisburg to feed your caddy with 94, You can find it at PA or NJ Turnpike near you. Local gas remained unchanged.
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...despite the fuel prices. Of course, I live a fairly modest lifestyle outside of my cars. My mortgage is very low on a nice small house with a modest fixed rate APR. I got in before things got psychotic. I guess I could sell my place at a fantastic profit, but I don't feel like wasting it on a cardboard McMansion. I have no significant debt outside of my mortgage.
Last month I spend about $115 on gas for the Suburban, which is about average unless we go on a trip somewhere. My wife has a company car so her fuel is provided for. Honestly, I don't even pay attention the gas prices.
I'm in pretty much the same situtation as you guys. No real debt other than the mortgage, and I'm trying to pay that down early because it's variable and goes up every time the Prime rate does. Still, it's a modest mortgage, and probably downright petty compared to some of my neighbors.
I pay attention to gas prices, and I gripe about them when I think they're too high, but they're really not making me change any habits. I'll drive my Intrepid a bit more gently, but I found out that my truck doesn't care if you feather it or stomp on it; it gets about the same mileage. I'm probably averaging maybe 1000 miles per month at the most, spread across my Intrepid, my truck, and an occasional jaunt on a nice day in one of my older cars.
I found out that there is a CNG station two blocks from my work(go figure!) - so a Civic GX is looking mighty attractive.
~$2 a gallon equivalent for CNG. A couple of years ago it wasn't enoguh difference to be meaningful, plus there were so few filling places. But with gas rising to $3.50 a gallon in Los Angeles now, it's suddenly becoming an option.
I avoided paying $3/gallon last year and have managed to do so this year as well. Had I "topped off" at any point to buy before an anticipated increase, I'm pretty sure I would have had the pleasure.
Still hanging at $2.93 in State College, although last week was the end of the Penn State spring semester, so I'm not surprised that prices held up with all those cars that were going to need to be fueled to leave town.
Here's a great post to dispel any nagging doubts that lower octane fuels are not as good. It's more like 3 flavors of ice cream! Then you won't have to worry about feeding your Caddies "slop."
Prices at the local Sunoco are down two cents - $2.93 for Regular, $3.03 for Silver, and "ultra?"93 is $3.13. How about two "Swedish fish" to go with that pack of Juicy Fruit?
We've been at $2.93 here in State College for a couple of weeks now. I've seen prices down in the $2.71 - $2.75 range down in the York - Gettysburg corridor.
Must have something to do with contracts that the different distributors have or something.
who bought an '06 Xterra on Saturday, was treated today to something he's never experienced before...a $40+ fuel bill! Came out to something like $47, he said. That was a big jump from his '98 Tracker, where he rarely had to put in more than $20, even in the worst of times.
The good news though, is that, so far at least, the Xterra is averaging about 20 mpg, which, sadly, is about all he got with his Tracker! IMO, that's not bad at all for a 4200 lb vehicle that has 265 or so hp.
The Chevron I patronize is at 3.15. Today's priciest gas in Seattle proper is 3.59, with quite a few over 3.30. Prices keep climbing out here, all legit market forces/supply and demand, I am sure.
The average Seattle metro area price today is 3.14, up from 2.70 a month ago. The average national price today is 2.88, up from 2.66 a month ago. Right.
Well, I doubt I can top the highest price, but it seems that our state has removed it's gas cap and now, or the last a checked, the prices has bumped up twenty cents total out at 3.77 per gallon.
After lemko mentioned that the Philly Sunoco had switched octanes for the grades, I made sure to check my usual Sunoco truck stop in Palisades Park NJ. Apparently that was a May 1 thing and I didn't notice it last week. Prices are the same as last week, but I'll repost with the correct octanes:
This makes the pricing seem even less equitable in terms of the steps between octanes. Now there is an even 2-point change in octane for each grade, but nothing remotely close to even proce breaks. Common sense would say 7-8 cents per grade increase.
Filled the Ram to the brim, $76.00 worth of diesel... but I won't need any fuel again probably until next Friday. I'd be filing Chapter 11 if I had the Hemi instead of the Cummins.
The majority of the complainers I see on the news and on the road are of course the full-size trucks and SUV owners. But none of them are doing anything themselves to conserve fuel. They're still foot to the floor, full-throttle from the stoplights, burning rubber.
The majority of those complaining are blaming big oil, Bush, local stations and what not, but none are stating what they are doing to lessen their usage.
An article / commentator / analyst that states there are surplus supplies, demand has dropped slightly, or that the prices have stabilized, should go up anymore and should decrease. Within 24 hours there's a new article or analyst that pops up and states that prices are going to shoot up again because someone's grandmother saw a cloud in the sky, or some other far-fetched reason. And each time it's stated prices are going to go up, it's minimum 20 cents higher than before.
More and more I'm seeing people saying it's not affecting them, but yet the low-income and poor are never the ones being interviewed. It's always the ones driving a higher-end vehicle that are asked about fuel prices. I believe this is giving a false sense of reality because if it is constantly shown that people are being negatively affected by the fuel prices, hell why not keep pushing the prices to the stratosphere?
that for all the whining, I still see all these big SUV/standard-sized pickup drivers out there playing "road warrior".
I also gotta confess though, that with my old '85 Silverado, I tried to go more gentle on it when gas prices shot up, to see if I would get better fuel economy. I got nothing. 10 mpg around town whether I old-ladied it or floored it.
Still, I'm not complaining too much. I could go out and get something more economical to replace it. But considering this truck has gone maybe 9,000 miles in the 3 1/2 years I've had it, it just wouldn't make sense financially. And I'm not going to gou out and spend $16-17K on a brand-new truck, just to turn around and dump a cubic yard of topsoil in the bed! Although once I found out how much that weighs, I learned I should stop doing it with my '85, too!
...getting something more economical, but would I really be saving money if I had a new car payment on top of the already high fuel prices? I paid-off my ride last March. I'm still way ahead of the game. Fuel would have to become scarce or priced really ridiculous for my to really make a commitment to buying a subcompact car.
it really depends on how much you drive. Also, consider the increased insurance of having another car on your policy (unless you were getting rid of a car)
Yes, the "road warriors" are funny. They pass by me like a bat outta you-know-what, and just like clock work I catch up to them at darn near every light, and sometimes pass them up. Sometimes I'll get that classic "how'd he catch up to me, I passed him way back there" look :confuse:
Yes, I'm considering myself lucky getting the improved mileage. I have an S-10 (V6, auto, 3.42 gear) so every little bit helps. Lastly my route is mostly 2- and 4-lanes having an average speed limit of 45mph, with two small towns having 35mph. So about 60% is 45mph the rest 35mph. But even with the traffic I am still able to get the 21.6mpg. I have yet to take it on the highway so can't confirm what the mileage would be. Sure it takes me longer (5 minutes) to get to the job, but I just leave 5 minutes early which allows me to miss a little more traffic. I also don't let the tank get below 1/4 max so that the hit to the wallet isn't that bad.
I know what you and others are talking about. I thought about buying a used cheap run-about for half a second and decided it wasn't worth it.
I just had 2 cubic yards of topsoil delivered to the house a few weeks ago. No way was I going to put that in the truck! :sick:
i think it kind of an image thing. nobody wants to admit gas prices are affecting them, so they may drive even faster than usual. last year, i decided to drop my highway speed 5 mph. i have been sticking with although it means i have to drive in the slow lane to not hold up other drivers.
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P.S. Drop a STP fuel injector cleaner in the tank for your high mileage rides once in a while. They do work ya know
Rocky
87 = Regular
89 = Silver
93 = Super
94 = Ultra
Now it's
87 = Regular
89 = Silver
91 = Premium
93 = Ultra
Not only did they raise the prices, but they watered it down! Geeze! I refer to that Ultra 93 as the watered down slop I have to force-feed my Caddies. I get the octane booster to make this crap palatable to them.
Why in the hell did they drop your Ultra down a point ???? Did you ask why ?
Rocky
Rocky
At one time they had a grade called Economy which was 86 octane. Saw somebody's car hunched over a curb vomiting out oil and major engine parts with a metallic clang after a tankful of that swill!
Careful there my diesels will run on Kerosene. That is Jet "A" If it is good enough for a 747 should be good enough for a car.
Rocky
Did they change your formulation to ethanol 10% instead of MTBE for the Philly area?
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But octane is really only about reducing the tendency of an engine to knock or ping; it's not really "better" in the sense of a microbrew beating out watered down Coors Light.
Your Caddies should be perfectly fine on 93 octane; it wouldn't surprise me if GM specifies "only" 91 octane for these cars.
If you really have to add octane booster, there's got to be something wrong with your engines (I doubt that).
Does anyone remember in the 60s that Mobil used to promote something they dubbed the "megatane" rating in their TV ads? It was supposed to be a "truer" measure of a gasoline's quality than mere octane.
Local gas remained unchanged.
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Last month I spend about $115 on gas for the Suburban, which is about average unless we go on a trip somewhere. My wife has a company car so her fuel is provided for. Honestly, I don't even pay attention the gas prices.
I pay attention to gas prices, and I gripe about them when I think they're too high, but they're really not making me change any habits. I'll drive my Intrepid a bit more gently, but I found out that my truck doesn't care if you feather it or stomp on it; it gets about the same mileage. I'm probably averaging maybe 1000 miles per month at the most, spread across my Intrepid, my truck, and an occasional jaunt on a nice day in one of my older cars.
Central VA, 87:
No-name at the car wash: $2.80
No-name at the quickie mart: $2.81
Hess, Liberty, and Pure: $2.82
Exxon nearest my house: $2.83
I'm still running around on $2.69 gas, but the '04 Camry is down to less than 1/8; guess I'll have to face the music soon.
~$2 a gallon equivalent for CNG. A couple of years ago it wasn't enoguh difference to be meaningful, plus there were so few filling places. But with gas rising to $3.50 a gallon in Los Angeles now, it's suddenly becoming an option.
Plus, you get carpool lane access out here.
(15.005 gallons of 87 at $2.799 for my '04 Camry.) Low fuel light was on.
At least I got 30.2 mpg. Price per gallon tied the highest I paid before (between Katrina and Rita).
Still hanging at $2.93 in State College, although last week was the end of the Penn State spring semester, so I'm not surprised that prices held up with all those cars that were going to need to be fueled to leave town.
Now I can afford that pack of Juicy Fruit I've been eyeing up!
shipo, "What about fuel types & gas mileage?" #136, 2 Apr 2005 8:42 am
Mobile was $2.519
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Must have something to do with contracts that the different distributors have or something.
The good news though, is that, so far at least, the Xterra is averaging about 20 mpg, which, sadly, is about all he got with his Tracker! IMO, that's not bad at all for a 4200 lb vehicle that has 265 or so hp.
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The average Seattle metro area price today is 3.14, up from 2.70 a month ago. The average national price today is 2.88, up from 2.66 a month ago. Right.
Might as well apply all of that Seattle-born and raised sarcasm of mine, for this is a subject that I oh-so-love to read about and talk about.
FWIW, ghastly is sitting at about $2.78/gal for 87 no-lead here in sunny Pocatello, ID. Can't complain.
Right.
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87 - $2.839
89 - $2.939
91 - $3.009
93 - $3.039
diesel - $2.799
This makes the pricing seem even less equitable in terms of the steps between octanes. Now there is an even 2-point change in octane for each grade, but nothing remotely close to even proce breaks. Common sense would say 7-8 cents per grade increase.
Filled the Ram to the brim, $76.00 worth of diesel... but I won't need any fuel again probably until next Friday. I'd be filing Chapter 11 if I had the Hemi instead of the Cummins.
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The majority of the complainers I see on the news and on the road are of course the full-size trucks and SUV owners. But none of them are doing anything themselves to conserve fuel. They're still foot to the floor, full-throttle from the stoplights, burning rubber.
The majority of those complaining are blaming big oil, Bush, local stations and what not, but none are stating what they are doing to lessen their usage.
An article / commentator / analyst that states there are surplus supplies, demand has dropped slightly, or that the prices have stabilized, should go up anymore and should decrease. Within 24 hours there's a new article or analyst that pops up and states that prices are going to shoot up again because someone's grandmother saw a cloud in the sky, or some other far-fetched reason. And each time it's stated prices are going to go up, it's minimum 20 cents higher than before.
More and more I'm seeing people saying it's not affecting them, but yet the low-income and poor are never the ones being interviewed. It's always the ones driving a higher-end vehicle that are asked about fuel prices. I believe this is giving a false sense of reality because if it is constantly shown that people are being negatively affected by the fuel prices, hell why not keep pushing the prices to the stratosphere?
It's just funny to me.
I also gotta confess though, that with my old '85 Silverado, I tried to go more gentle on it when gas prices shot up, to see if I would get better fuel economy. I got nothing. 10 mpg around town whether I old-ladied it or floored it.
Still, I'm not complaining too much. I could go out and get something more economical to replace it. But considering this truck has gone maybe 9,000 miles in the 3 1/2 years I've had it, it just wouldn't make sense financially. And I'm not going to gou out and spend $16-17K on a brand-new truck, just to turn around and dump a cubic yard of topsoil in the bed! Although once I found out how much that weighs, I learned I should stop doing it with my '85, too!
Yes, I'm considering myself lucky getting the improved mileage. I have an S-10 (V6, auto, 3.42 gear) so every little bit helps. Lastly my route is mostly 2- and 4-lanes having an average speed limit of 45mph, with two small towns having 35mph. So about 60% is 45mph the rest 35mph. But even with the traffic I am still able to get the 21.6mpg. I have yet to take it on the highway so can't confirm what the mileage would be. Sure it takes me longer (5 minutes) to get to the job, but I just leave 5 minutes early which allows me to miss a little more traffic. I also don't let the tank get below 1/4 max so that the hit to the wallet isn't that bad.
I know what you and others are talking about. I thought about buying a used cheap run-about for half a second and decided it wasn't worth it.
I just had 2 cubic yards of topsoil delivered to the house a few weeks ago. No way was I going to put that in the truck! :sick:
last year, i decided to drop my highway speed 5 mph. i have been sticking with although it means i have to drive in the slow lane to not hold up other drivers.