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  • autobrokerautobroker Member Posts: 19
    Yes there are dealers selling the MDX for MSRP in the Bay Area but you have to get on a long waiting list. I placed someone on a list with a Bay Area dealer recently and he is expected to get his car in 6 to 8 months.

    Southern CA is a bit better. Expected wait time is 3 to 4 months for MSRP priced cars. One dealer I work with said that its allocation of MDXs is growing so this should translate into shorter waiting lists.

    Beware of dealers saying that they sell the MDX for MSRP. Some say they do but then require you to buy dealer installed options. I had a dealer tell me this a few days ago - he said that the car would be sold for MSRP so I asked if he requires additional options on the car. It was only at this time that he explained that the dealership requires you buy $2,495 in options (priced at full retail per the Acura website!). This may not a big deal to you if you planned to buy such options anyway.

    Good luck.
  • jregen7243jregen7243 Member Posts: 91
    There is an Acura dealer in East Brunswick, NJ that has an MDX with a $4500 market value adjustment. Its bad enough to pay msrp, but an extra $4500 is insane. I don't care how much I wanted a car or truck, I wouldn't pay a dime over msrp, on principle. The MDX is a great vehicle, but not worth it.

    Jon
  • conradsmithconradsmith Member Posts: 10
    The full text (PDF) of most MDX Service Bulletins is available at HondaAcuraWorld

    ( http://www.hondacuraworld.com/frame.html ). Select "Service Bulletins" from the bottom menu on most of the main frames, then select "Acura MDX". This site is also a great source for discounted MDX accessories. They also have the PDFs of the factory installation instructions. I bought 3 items from the (cargo cover, cargo net, and side molding) and was surprised that they didn't charge any shipping. Everything worked like a charm.

    - Conrad
  • nferrnferr Member Posts: 32
    A loaded up Rendezvous and a base MDX list for about the same money. Thats where pricing similarities end. I just ordered a Rendezvous and was offered invoice price right off the bat. That was $3500 off list. GM is giving another $2002 rebate, there is an additional $500 lease incentive, and I had another $2700 in GM credit card points. That totals to $8702 off list for the Rendezvous. I put $2000 total out of pocket (this includes all fees, 1'st payment etc.) and the lease is $331 (pre-tax) for 36 months and 15,000 miles per year. The 2 cars really don't compete in the same pricing arena. And they shouldn't - the MDX is a superior product. But if I was to put a total of $2000 out of pocket for an MDX lease my payment would probably be over $600 per month. I love Acura's - I've had two and my CL lease just ended 2 weeks ago. Acura gives no incentive to returning lease customers so the MDX was not worth double the payment to me.

    The Rendezvous is a fine product with lots of luxury and utility. It suffers some in the performance category in comparison to the MDX, but I would bet that many drivers (like my wife) would even push the MDX enough to really notice the difference. Lets give both products their due.
  • sbcookesbcooke Member Posts: 2,297
    Someone was wondering about 2003? Go to google and do a search. Here is one of a few articles I found. It is from Aug. 2001.


    http://www.autonews.com/news.cms?newsId=417

  • joeadpjoeadp Member Posts: 68
    Well said that is why I went with a Mercury Mountaineer.

    I have two german imports however this time I could not resist the below invoice price on a 2002 Mountaineer. Mercury is offering a $2000 rebate and 3.25% lease financing.

    36 month lease fully loaded 8 cylinder with tax
    $455 per month. I know it is a better quality product however with a 3 year lease I am coverd with the warranty.

    Good luck to all.

    I could not see paying $650 a month and waiting
    for the MDX.
  • twoof1twoof1 Member Posts: 308
    I seriously looked at the MDX however I could not handle the local arrogant (so. Cal) dealers, not to mention paying MSRP plus. The MDX is a solid ride. However I could not get over the level of noise coming in from outside (yes it was an '02 model). The short inventory, dealer arrogance, excessive noise and MSRP plus pricing got me to start looking around (oh yeah and don't forget you'll probably wait a few month's). I ended up driving home a new Mountaineer last night. This SUV is completely redone for '02. Independent rear suspension, very quiet, tourqey V8, 6 disk in dash CD, leather, 3rd row fold flat seat, even has dual zone climate control. Fully loaded which includes many things not included (or in some cases not available) on the MDX like running boards, puddle light, keyless entry, class III/IV towing towing pkg., 5 star crash test results, reverse sensing system and Side head curtain air bags all for $100.00 over invoice. The total came to $32,200.00 PLUS 0% financing. All told, I saved about $5,000.00 on the vehicle (compared to a touring MDX) and about $2,000.00 on the financing plus I can tow up to 7,300lbs.
    I don't know about you, but $7,000.00 is nothing to sneeze at.
    If you own an MDX, enjoy it, it's a nice ride. But if your still looking, you might want to expand your search and at least consider some alternatives.
  • cfawcettcfawcett Member Posts: 14
    These crash test only reflect 10% of actual crashes that happen in America. 36% is full frontal accidents and 27% are side impacts. Whatever you do don't base the safety of your vehicle completely on the IIHS test! Also you must question their ethics, and their bias. They rated the Aztek unsafe because it's airbag didn't fire correctly. GM stated it was an isolated incident and that if they tested it again it wouldn't happen. This airbag timing issue happened to several other vehicles this year. The IIHS retested these vehicles and they changed there safety rating. For instance the Jeep Liberty.
  • sbcookesbcooke Member Posts: 2,297
    good point. Take for example the f150. IIHS rates it as one of the worst performers "total structral failure". NHTSA gives it good scores? Why one is offset, and one is full frontal. The statistics pages are very important to read too.

    On NHTSA, if you actually look at the forces on a 3 star vehicle, you see that some are only a fraction up the injury curve (obviously not the best), but not "dangerous", just less safe.
  • hoolickhoolick Member Posts: 16
    I picked up my 2002 mdx 10 days ago,touring wo/nav for sticker price,waited 5 weeks for delivery. all things considered it was a good buying experience.The handling is excellent,we took a short trip and it the performance was all we hoped for.We looked at all the competing models and we kept coming back to the mdx,it did everything we needed and then some,for those of you who value quality and performance you can't miss with this one.
  • wmquanwmquan Member Posts: 1,817
    I agree that one should not solely use the IIHS crash test results in assessing safety. They should also use, when available, the NHTSA crash test results (front and side) and also look at safety features and the overall trend of the manufacturer's vehicles, especially vehicles that may have been the base platform.

    The offset frontal crash may not be the most common type of crash overall, but IIRC it is one of the ones that commonly causes injury. E.g. rear-end collisions, according to NHTSA, do not cause as many severe injuries as expressed in percentage of crashes. Thus NHTSA does not allocate its limited budget into testing rear-end collisions, and instead tests full-front and side-impact collisions.

    There is some controversy over full-frontal vs. offset crash testing. In support of offset crash testing, IIHS states that their test is complementary to the full-frontal test, and is a better test of injuries from issues with the vehicle's structure. Whereas, according to IIHS, the full-frontal test aims at testing the vehicle's restraints and does not do a good job of testing the structure. Furthermore, the European Union and Australia perform only offset front crash tests.

    Some supporters of the offset also point out that it is easier to achieve a good score in the NHTSA test than it is the IIHS test, thus the IIHS test is a more discerning one. It is true that there are some cases where the IIHS has a higher score whereas NHTSA has a lower score. Though they seem to be much less frequent.

    However, NHTSA maintains that the full-front test is more advanced for testing head/chest injuries than offset testing. They think that the offset test better measures foot and leg injuries, which are usually the result of compartment intrusion. Nevertheless, NHTSA is considering performing limited offset testing to "harmonize" with the European Union.

    In the real world, one can't adjust their vehicle's position in time to choose between full-front or offset collision, so I think both tests are quite valid.
  • wmquanwmquan Member Posts: 1,817
    In the case of an IIHS test with an airbag firing late, it is true that they don't have a full statistical sample, since obviously they don't have the funds to run many copies of the same model into the barrier.

    Nevertheless, I, personally, wouldn't feel comfortable reading a test result of an airbag deploying late. It's quite possible that the airbag deploys fine with a full-frontal collision but not an offset collision.

    The main reason I don't excuse the airbag deploying late lies in the fact that the manufacturer can request a re-test under the IIHS process. The manufacturer can even make a design modification to correct the issue.

    Ford did this with the new Explorer/Mountaineer; it allegedly performed only "marginal" on the IIHS test (which was not made publicly). Ford requested a retest with a design modification (structural, not with the airbag) made in the middle of the model year (which is public knowledge). Thus the new results are very good indeed. (Unfortunately that means that owners of 2002 Explorers/Mountaineers produced before October 2001 have a vehicle which performed significantly worse, and not at the level currently publicized. That's the problem with not getting it right the first time!)

    Furthermore, the aforementioned Jeep Liberty is a perfect example of how relevant the IIHS crash test is. When IIHS first tested it "deployed late because an airbag sensor wire shorted out early in the crash." "This led DaimlerChrysler to develop a fix for this problem by shielding the wiring, and the manufacturer has initiated a recall." IIHS retested it and it did not deploy late.

    Thus, it means that IIHS's offset testing helped find a definite safety issue, and DaimlerChrysler felt it was enough of an issue to make a fix and recall the vehicles.
  • milousmilous Member Posts: 39
    [QUOTE:] "The short inventory, dealer arrogance, excessive noise and MSRP plus pricing got me to start looking around" [/QUOTE]

    I agree with Twoof1, there are indeed better alternatives to the MDX. I went with the '02 Jeep Grand Cherokee Limited with High Output engine and just love it. Smooth ride, plenty of power, very comfortable and a lot of fun to drive.

    And, I didn't have to deal with the arrogant and greedy Acura dealers. Out the door for under 35k, fully loaded (MSRP 38k). Blows the MDX minivan away in so many ways I cannot count!!

    I can't believe someone would place an order for a vehicle that could take up to "8 months" to get, unbelieveable!! By then the 2003's will be out, and if you gotta have an MDX it would be worth waiting for those models as hopefully they will have solved some of the problems.

    I could not deal with excessive WIND NOISE, and in a $40k+ vehicle this is truly an embarassing and inexplicable shortcoming for this Acura "luxury SUV"! That should have been priority #1 to fix for 2002 but for Acura (like Ford) "Profit is job 1"!
  • rihoopsrihoops Member Posts: 91
    My MDX didn't take 8 months, and is very competitive with any Jeep product. Post a message in a few months after you have typical Chrysler quality control issues. The MDX is a fabulous vehicle for the money in my opinion. Reputable dealers are out there, Acura of Newport in RI is excellent.
  • conradsmithconradsmith Member Posts: 10
    I realize that everyone's experience and needs are different. However, my MDX experience has been very pleasant so far. The dealer (Walker Acura in New Orleans) was very cooperative and easy to work with. Although they wouldn't budge on price, they did leave off an option (cargo tray) I didn't want. My Redrock Pearl Touring arrived in 5 weeks (not months). We've put about 500 miles on it and so far I haven't heard the terrible WIND NOISE some people talk about. The gas mileage is hovering around 20MPG (about 2/3 interstate and 1/3 city driving). We were trying to run one tank with only city driving, but we couldn't help taking 2 drives in the country (state highways and county roads). It handles well on curves and hills. My wife compares the handling to her Integra, but that seems unlikely to me. I'm sure the MDX will reach its limits before the Integra.

    The other vehicles that met my requirements were also selling for MSRP and difficult to find on dealer lots. In the past I've usually been able to find a car that met my needs close enough on a lot, and made the dealer an offer that they often took. However, this time our needs were very specific, and we didn't have a deadline (since our other cars were working OK). So, we looked and thought about it for 2 years, and although some new models came out (Envoy, Rendevous, etc.), none of them passed all of our tests. As hoolick says, we kept coming back to the MDX, and I think we will be very happy with it for several years.
    - Conrad
  • margermarger Member Posts: 7
    milous,


    If you would like a preview of what you should prepare for with your Jeep in the next 2 to 3 years of ownership, see the link below. It is only one among many other similar links on the Edmunds site on the same topic:

    cavman2x "Jeep Grand Cherokee problems" Jan 15, 2002 8:09am


    While MDX is by no means a perfect SUV (no car or SUV is perfect), it is significantly better (and a better value) than anything else in its class:

    http://www.caranddriver.com/xp/Caranddriver/features/2001/July/200007_5best_acuramdx.xml?keywords=Acura%20MDX

    But don't be upset because you did not get an MDX. Rather, look to the prospect of making new friends at your dealership's service department, as I am sure your Jeep will be spending lots of time there.

  • wmquanwmquan Member Posts: 1,817
    And I would not buy a Jeep Grand Cherokee simply because I would not purchase a vehicle with a "marginal" IIHS crash test result.


    http://www.iihs.org/vehicle_ratings/ce/html/99009.htm


    It was only three star for the NHTSA front test, 4/5 for the side.


    This of course is my own criteria in the purchase of a vehicle, and others will have their own criteria.

  • landcruisermanlandcruiserman Member Posts: 14
    My collegue has a 2001 Jeep Grand Cherokee and is on his 3rd transmission plus had a breakdown in route to Michigan from his home in Georgia last week. He has resorted to leaving the keys in the ignition hoping for it to be stolen. So far no luck!
    All issues with the MDX have been minor so far. This is because manufacturers like Honda/Toyota demand much more from their suppliers.
  • jack807jack807 Member Posts: 11
    After much thought, I have finally decided not to buy the MDX.

    To all the people who have purchased this vehicle I hope it has lived up to your expectations and that you enjoy the vehicle for years to come.

    To the people who are still planning to buy, my best wishes and good luck (Amy - a.k.a. leokadia1 included).

    As for me, the main reason I finally decided against the MDX is because of the "value" factor. To me this is what separated Acura MDX from the other luxury SUVs like MB, BMW & Lexus. This was Acura's EDGE. Unfortunately, with the going price of MSRP or more Acura's MDX is now on par with the rest of the luxury SUVs in terms of price. Yes, it may still be a little cheaper than a X5 but at that price range, one should just go for the luxury. The perceived "value" is no longer there, at least for me.
  • rkuehnrkuehn Member Posts: 120
    If you're shopping for an MDX and not in a hurry, consider waiting for MY2003.. This will be much more of a buyer's market, consider:
    - Acura MDX- refresh
    - Lexus RX300- redesign
    - Honda Pilot- new vehicle
    - Volvo XC90- new vehicle
    - Volkswagen SUV- new vehicle
  • paisanpaisan Member Posts: 21,181
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  • wmquanwmquan Member Posts: 1,817
    Hey, remember last year when we were discussing the MDX's styling? You had said you couldn't imagine more pedestrian styling in the Honda version of the MDX. Can you imagine it now? ;-)
  • milousmilous Member Posts: 39
    [QUOTE] But don't be upset because you did not get an MDX. Rather, look to the prospect of making new friends at your dealership's service department, as I am sure your Jeep will be spending lots of time there. [/QUOTE]

    Oh, I'm not upset that I didn't buy an MDX, I am in fact GLAD that I didn't. I didn't want a minivan, especially one so far overpriced. Jeep has come a long way in reliability in the past 2 years and newer models have been problem-free. There are very few posts in this message board (and others) that concern problems with 2000-2002 models. FAR less than the MDX problems you'll find. And no, the MDX's problems are not all "minor". Like I mentioned, I counted well over 40 different problems with the MDX, and only a few with the Jeep. The MDX's are being rush-built and they cut a lot of cotners in the build quality of the vehicle. Cheap plastic, lots of rattles, wind noise, leaking mirrors, uncomfortable seats, all that and you get to bend over and pay a stiff premium.
  • sbcookesbcooke Member Posts: 2,297
    that jeep's are better. But from what I have read over the last few years on the jeep boards, it not only seemed like design issues (rotors, differentials, transmissions, etc.) but dealer problems. All cars break, but when you bring it in you want it fixed. It seemed like (from the jeep boards) dealers were giving the customers the run-around.

    I hear Acura dealers aren't the greatest, but the MDX's problems do seem minor (weeping mirrors) in general (not drivetrain related).

    Anyway, the JGC is a great concept and off-road truck on paper, it is good to hear some of the early problems are clearing up.
  • tony2putttony2putt Member Posts: 31
    While I also do not agree with the sales practices at Acura, I managed to do OK. I honestly hope resale value will be strong. Lots of great SUV's coming to the market in 2003. I'm confused by what sounds like anger for not getting a MDX. Those of you with Mountaineer/Explorer or Jeep thanks for proving freedom of choice. Please provide positive comments at your Town hall. I have noticed poor gas mileage with MDX, approx 16-17 with both city and highway driving. That is my only complaint. Tony
  • twoof1twoof1 Member Posts: 308
    It is not your town hall or my town hall. It belongs to ALL of us. So step down off of the high horse. It is not your place to tell anyone where they belong. I posted some comments about the Mountaineer VS the MDX. If you will read my post, you will notice that on several occasions I commented that while I had some issues with it, the MDX is a great ride. I did not pick it, but that is why they make a different flavors of ice cream. To each his own.
    Chill
  • 02mdx02mdx Member Posts: 64
    I have been watching/lusting after the MDX for quite some time (heck, look at my user name!). Given the circumstances that the MDX is in, I decided (hard decision!) to purchase a new Toyota Avalon. Okay, okay... how do you go from a MDX to an Avalon? (And you guys are arguing over the difference between the MDX and the Rendezvous). The MDX is not the perfect vehicle for my family now, but we were planning to grow into the MDX whenever we got around to having our second child. Considering all the aspects of the MDX (pricing, dealers, subtle flaws, etc.), we decided to go for what fits us now and purchase the SUV when we need it later.

    I come from a primarily Honda family and I had an almost obsessive desire to stay in the Honda realm. Now that we have the Avalon (and can only rave about this vehicle), I am now seriously considering the Sequoia and the upcoming RX300 over the MDX. To those of you non-MDX owners, I imagine you made the best choice for your needs, may you have many trouble-free miles. To those MDX owners, what a vehicle! We are lucky to have so many choices and information at our fingertips. Meanwhile, I'm still commuting to work in my old Honda Accord.
  • aggie76aggie76 Member Posts: 266
    Ok, Ok, after my wife got dings twice in last 30 days in '01 Touring w/Nav its time to put the door guards on. Anyone with recommendations since I will most likely buy from Hondacuraworld and do a self install.

    Spouse still loves the MDX and uses the Nav all the time in her daily travels around town.
  • jmh62jmh62 Member Posts: 5
    It seems to me that a class war is starting to occur here between those who like MDX and everyone else...

    It is an innate human need to rationalize that we made a good decision...otherwise we lose confidence in our action and the resultant "buyer's remorse" sets in.

    The MDX is an incredible machine...as are most vehicles in this class. What appeals to many people are all the intangibles that come with the brand...whether that brand is BMW,MB, or Buick.
    All other comparisons pale against this...you buy it because it meets your needs (as do most relevant cars) and because it says Acura...which is all the reason you need.

    Pychobable aside...we just put down a deposit on a premium 02 MDX at $200 below MSRP. Reading these posts make me feel great, I think the Acura at MSRP is fairly priced compared to $4000 off MSRP on an RX300...you net to $35,000 for both vehicles and after that its all in the brand name you prefer.

    All that said - MDX's rule and I'll argue that against all comers! (remember I have to say and believe that)
  • sbcookesbcooke Member Posts: 2,297
    Where did you get $200 under MSRP? Are MDX prices starting to slip?
  • tloke1tloke1 Member Posts: 185
    I'm sure if he got his MDX for $200 under MSRP that the dealer will catch up somewhere else, no doubt about it. Either in over-priced accessories, extended warranty or whatever else. When jmh62 takes delivery of his vehicle that's when they'll get him, when the excitement is high and he's in a rush to take it home. Car dealers love to play those games, especially the greedy ones at Acura...
  • jmh62jmh62 Member Posts: 5
    Ahhh...the value of self control. That price included the only 3 dealer options I wanted - roof rack, wood shifter knob, and mud flaps. All over priced, but not at $0...

    As far as extended warranties...hardly matters on a lease...

    As far as greed...I prefer to call it excellant product in tune with market needs combined with the inoxerable laws of supply and demand...

    Tell me, did you pay too much or just opt far another car?
  • sowrsowr Member Posts: 69
    Jeep or Acura?

    Off-road or glorified mini-van? Let me see...

    Well, it all depends what you want to do with your vehicle; going down to the mall on a snowy day? Go for the Acura. Traversing the Rubicon? The Jeep will do better.
  • mccaffrey1mccaffrey1 Member Posts: 5
    Get my white touring model next month. Has anyone seen the white with any accessarys on it. How does it look with side molding, mud guards, wheel well molding, etc.? I have to decide what to put on it and not having seen one puts me at a disadvantage. Ed
  • wmquanwmquan Member Posts: 1,817
    Ed, please try this link. An enthusiastic new owner gradually added (to their white MDX) some accessories, including the body side moldings, moonroof visor, color-matched rear tailgate deflector, a non-Acura front air deflector, and non-Acura door edge and wheel-well moldings.


    http://www.acuramdx.org/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=3595


    Some folks prefer the look of the FormFit front air deflector over the Acura green front air deflector. www.hondacuraworld.com can have their body shop paint some of the accessories, for a fair price -- Marne got his white rear air deflector from Tim at Hondacuraworld, and I bought a silver one. Some folks prefer the stock off-black color, which does match the roof rack color.


    I think someone had inquired if the rear mudguards could be color-matched (though I'd imagine then you'd want to do the front, which come with the vehicle). But Tim says that the rear splash guards are made of the softer plastic that will flex and thus not hold a paint job well.


    The white looks good on the MDX. Accessories are purely taste, but I think the side moldings look better on white than some of the other colors (then again, I also think Acura should have them all with side moldings, even though they won't stop all dings).

  • sbcookesbcooke Member Posts: 2,297
    The only add-on I saw that didn't look good (not bad, just less than good) were the wheel flares. The flares were a slightly different color, and the gas cap door was cutout of the flare. So you had an off-white-ish flare with a bright white cutout, it really stood out.

    I have seen MDX's doing some decent off-roading in Nantucket. Some area were probably inaccessible to a MDX, but they went more places than X5's, CRV's and similar lesser off-road vehicles. Not a jeep, and not the rubicon, but places that were inaccessible to cars and some other SUV's. I would say the MDX far exceeds what most people want for offroading. However tow hooks, skid plates, 4 low range more wheel travel, solid axle...but then you wouldn't have the family hauler everyone wants.
  • mikekabrisky1mikekabrisky1 Member Posts: 28
    Hey guys,

    I've noticed that some MDX has the steps on both sides for one to step on before you get in the car. Other MDXs don't have it? Is this an additional option on the base model compared to the Touring one. Also, if i want it, how much are they? It's not like the MDX is so high that i need the step, but it would be nice to have it. Thanks.
  • wmquanwmquan Member Posts: 1,817
    The side steps are a dealer-installed accessory, as are the running boards. I know one site (see previous messages on good places for accessories) charges $433 for sidesteps, which I _think_ includes shipping (a lot of folks have installed it themselves; just a ton of bolts).


    Please note, however, that quite a few MDX owners have opted for the Manik sidesteps, which some think look better and are cheaper (at least before people start discounting the Acura ones). Here are some photos and discussion on them:


    http://www.acuramdx.org/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=2014


    I have also heard of an MDX owner powdercoating their Acura sidesteps, though that is of course more money.

  • mikekabrisky1mikekabrisky1 Member Posts: 28
    wmquan,

    Should i go ahead and have the dealer add the accessories i want when i buy or is it much cheaper to order the accessories from acura/honda parts and do it myself? If the price differential is great, than i'd rather do it myself. Thanks.
  • wmquanwmquan Member Posts: 1,817
    Mike,

    Generally it is cheaper to buy the accessories from a discounter than it is to buy from a dealer. Most dealers won't discount parts. And, unfortunately, quite a few dealerships (Acura, Honda, and other brands) may not only charge MSRP, but pad the cost heavily by raising the price for the part and/or charging more for the labor to install than warranted. On a hot-selling vehicle (like the MDX), some dealers are only selling the vehicle bundled with some overpriced options (I've seen some outrageous examples, shame on them).

    Thus, it is usually better to not buy them from the dealer unless 1) the dealer is charging a fair price; and 2) if you don't want to install them yourself. Unfortunately, while there are some good Acura dealerships, there are also a lot of bad ones so quite a few folks do buy them from a discounter like www.hondacuraworld.com.

    I'd imagine this will also be the same case with the Pilot.

    Good luck!
  • will4271will4271 Member Posts: 187
    The Pilot will be out around June. I think the people at least some will move to the Pilot. Maybe the upwards pricing from MSRP will not be so high. People always want lower price and are generally cheap.

    Also, Honda should have survey's on the dealer sales experience on the web so we can express our disappointment. Lexus has excellent service and Acura treats customer as nothings.

    A 3.8L V-6 probably 260hp engineer will replace the 3.5L V-6 (240hp) boosting power to differ from the Pilot in 2003.

    Is that MDX really worth it??? It has to ride on the styling.
  • 02mdx02mdx Member Posts: 64
    Many have talked about the possible addition of Xenon HID lights, larger 3.8L engine, entertainment system, but nothing has been said about the sport-shift that is on the 3.2TL/CL. I think the sport-shift transmission would be a nice addition and bring the MDX closer to the X5 in regards to sportiness.

    Another feature that would be great is power folding side mirrors. Considering the many complaints that we have seen on this board, I think it would bring many buyers back to the MDX table.
  • splidsplid Member Posts: 2
    I ordered a 2002 MDX in November last year and the dealer tells me that it will arrive some day next month (February). I was wondering if anyone has heard of the proper way to "break-in" the new vehicle. I know there are as many opinions on this as there are people, but has anyone heard of the official break-in procedure? Any rumors or suggestions/recommendations?
  • will4271will4271 Member Posts: 187
    What color did you order?

    I heard that silver and Granite Green are hard to come by. I just ordered a Silver.

    In the 02 MDX manual (from Acura), it mentions tha they are coming out with a new color in the Spring. Maybe then there production will have enough capacity for built even more colors.
  • will4271will4271 Member Posts: 187
    Can anyone find out exactly what's in the '03 mdx?


    I know about the bigger 3.8L engine for sure only.

    http://www.motortrend.com/future/2003.html


    You can view further to 2004.

  • wmquanwmquan Member Posts: 1,817
    All speculation to this point is just speculation. Anyone who says they know for sure is probably misinformed.

    Unfortunately, Honda/Acura is even more tight-lipped than the average manufacturer. When the MDX was first introduced they were very stubborn about releasing information. Pricing wasn't known publicly until less than a month before introduction.

    The best one can do is to pull the speculation together and figure out what is most likely given market competition, as well as position relative to the Pilot.

    There's a long laundry list of fairly major items, so long that I highly doubt that they can ALL be incorporated into the 2003 version (they still have to keep the price down). High on the wish list are usually: stability control, even more power, xenon HID headlamps, side curtain airbags, an upgraded interior, and various convenience options (e.g. DVD entertainment system).

    My own guess (and it's just a guess) is that the power upgrade will be there (which I don't feel is as necessary given that the vehicle is already very competitive in the acceleration department), HID headlamps, and some convenience options (probably borrowing from the Pilot's accessory list). Acura marketing might keep saying that the vehicle's wide track and VTM-4 system make stability control "unnecessary."
  • rick135rick135 Member Posts: 21
    Called the dealer three weeks ago with our request for the MDX and of course our deposit and got the call a few days ago that the 02 MDX granite green touring w/nav came in. We drove 45 minutes to pick up the car of our dreams and ended up very disappointed. Yes, the acceleration was great, but we thought the seats were very uncomfortable. The seats actually reminded us of the seats in the Odyssey. The ride wasn't much better than in our son's Tahoe LT and the ebony interior shows everything. Not sure why Acura only has two colors for interior. Also, when we pulled into the dealer lot, we thought OUR car would have been detailed but it was dirty. Made us feel like dealer didn't think they needed to put forth much effort since they KNEW that we would just take the car. Came home in our 00 TL, which we love. I guess all the hype and reading all the messages on this board made us expect more that we got. Guess we'll wait to see what the Lexus and Honda produce this year. Really wanted to be part of the MDX family, but, of well.
  • shellymeister2shellymeister2 Member Posts: 115
    Great vehicle...In answer to previous post regarding ride quality, I have noticed that Honda and other manufacturers's new cars tend to ride somewhat more stiffly initially, but as the suspensions are "broken-in" their ride quality improves. That is definitely the case with my MDX. As I have driven it longer, the ride quality has become impressive. I currently have about 14,000 miles and I find myself liking the vehicle more today, than when I first bought it. I have owned quite a number of SUV's since the early 90's, and this MDX is easily the best of the lot.
  • msh8448msh8448 Member Posts: 23
    We would like to purchase a high-quality after-market roof rack system for our 2002 Base MDX. Does anyone have any suggestions for a particular system that has worked well? Since I'm not inclined to drill holes in the MDX's roof, I'd prefer a removable/temporary system if available.
  • splidsplid Member Posts: 2
    I ordered a granite green one. I was never told that any colors were more difficult to get.
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