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  • buckeye74buckeye74 Member Posts: 4
    I HAVE 2000 S WITH 6 DISC CHANGER AND HAVE HAD NO SKIPPING PROBLEMS. DO YOU OR ANYONE ELSE HAVE PROBLEMS WITH THE REAR BARN DOOR LOCK NOT FULLY DISENGAGING WHEN USE THE POWER DOOR LOCK WITH KEY FOB OR THE ACTUAL POWER DOOR LOCK ON THE DRIVER DOOR? JUST WONDERING BECAUSE I HAVE PROBLEMS WITH MINE. ALSO, DOES AIR BLOW OUT YOUR VENTS PRETTY HARD WHEN YOU HAVE THE BLOWER TOTALLY OFF. MINE DOES AND I DON'T THINK THAT IS NORMAL OR IS IT?
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  • paisanpaisan Member Posts: 21,181
    Isuzu Owner's Club Chat tonight 10-11pm EST here on Edmunds!

    -mike
  • jayboreedjayboreed Member Posts: 14
    My Trooper, actually does not have the CD changer in it. I've got a guy that is looking to sell me one. Anyway, it is an Isuzu Changer, but it is a Nakamich 10 disc changer. He said that it was for a 2000 Trooper, but I am thinking that he is wrong, because 2000's only come with 6 disc changers. However, the 2001 85th Anniversary addition Troopers come with a Nakamich system but I don't know what size changer it is. I was under the impression that the 6 disc was made by pionner or panasonic. So I'm thinking this guy either can't count, it's stolen and is out of a 2001, or its really not a Nakamichi. Any comments on this would be greatly appreciated. Note to Buckey: Use that warranty, and put it on circulate rather than fresh. If you still have air comeing out.... Use that warranty. Thanks, JR
  • paisanpaisan Member Posts: 21,181
    2000 the most you could get is 6.

    2001 Nagamichi = 6 disc changer.

    as per the Isuzu web page.

    -mike
  • karl972karl972 Member Posts: 8
    Hello again all - purchased a '01 Limited about 2 weeks ago (thanks again mike, a.k.a. il paisan) for my wife & we both love the truck. 3 issues I'd like the input of other bb readers on:
    Issue(1): Alignment - when we drove the Troop before buying, it pulled noticeably to the right. Dealer assured us that this was the case with 80% of his shipments from Isuzu, 'cause Isuzu doesn't fully tighten the alignment before shipping out, & a free alignment from service would render the drive "true". Sure enough, service did the work for free & significantly improved the alignment, but there is still a very subtle and eventual drift to the right on flat straight surfaces. Another trip back to service & the truck remains the same. It's not bad enough to be a serious concern on the face of it, BUT - (a) any reason why a new Troop can't be perfectly aligned? and (b) could this be indicative of an underlying manufacturing defect with the truck that I should be concerned about? As I say, the drift is so subtle that, unless it worsened or were sympthomatic of something more serious, I'd not be inclined to fuss further. On the other hand...
    Issue (2): Brake pedal noise - when lifting foot off brake pedal, there is a relatively loud and annoying "click" of metal striking metal. Dealer says it's "normal" but with two loaner Troops the noise was nowhere near as commonplace or loud as on ours. The contact point is a fairly slender metal rod connecting to the brake pedal - any thoughts on the advisability of or safety issues from merely placing a small felt "bumper" with adhesive on one side at this metal contact point (like the ones you might see on a bathroom cabinet door) to dampen the sound?
    Issue(3): Our 6 CD player also skips at the drop of a hat. Have folks been able to readily obtain replacement players via warranty claim?

    Thanks in advance for any replies to these inquiries.
    -Karl-
  • paisanpaisan Member Posts: 21,181
    Mine used to pull also, had it re-aligned for free, it's not 100% but I'm satisfied that it's true enough (especially living in NY with bad roads I never get much of a chance to drive no-handed).

    Felt shouldn't be a problem to dampen the sound on the pedal.

    A # of people have had their cds replaced under warranty. So go for it.

    -mike
  • mkayemkaye Member Posts: 184
    My Trooper also had a pull to the right since new. I took it in for alignment 4 times to the dealer, always announcing the alignment to "specs." Rotating the tires across or front-to-rear provided no benefit. Finally, I took it to a local shop who said the ride height was off left to right on the torsion bars. Once they adjusted the torsion bar ride height to "spec" there is no longer a pull to the right.

    Maybe that will help. You can measure, say from the same point at the top of the fender/wheelwell and compare left to right.
  • jayboreedjayboreed Member Posts: 14
    My 2000 Trooper pulled to the right also. I've had it alligned twice and it still pulls to the right just a little. But I notice that if I pull into the lane of on going traffic on a straight away(when no cars are coming of course), that it will start easing a little to the left. I figure its just following gravity now. But I must say, it was a pain getting it through the service peoples head to straighten it up. I was just happy that they could get the steering wheel centered so when I was steering straight it was going straight. Also, my Mom has a 99 Trooper and it the same brake sound your speaking of when I let off of the breaks when I drove it yesterday. It however does not seem to be out of line. Concerning the break, uour right, why not put a peice of padding on it. Still, I am very satsified with the vehicle and although we nit pick at some of the issues they have, I've heard, experienced(so far), and read statistics that they are well built and reliable. JR
  • karl972karl972 Member Posts: 8
    Thanks paisan, mkaye & jayboreed. Tomorrow I'll investigate the torsion bar ride height issue mkaye referenced.
  • gpm5gpm5 Member Posts: 785
    I've heard it more on some that I drove. My '99 trooper has it a little and seems to depend on hitting the brake and quickly releasing it.
  • cd1000cd1000 Member Posts: 16
    I am planning on getting a class 3 hitch of some sort and need some info on the wiring. The actual hitch info looks pretty straightforward. Where is the wiring adaptor and I assume I can get one that fits--male-female. Is it easy to run? I am considering the hidden hitch so any info would be helpful. Also, who has the best prices. Thanks, Chris
  • gpm5gpm5 Member Posts: 785
    Chris, bluedevils, and others interested in the hidden hitch. The one I bought for the '99 trooper was 83514. Their web site http://hiddenhitch.com/Products/ shows it to fit all troopers (92-2000) and it should also include 2001. I bought it from Automotive Accessories Connection in NYC 1-888-425-2885 Price $135.80 delivered to my door (arrival in 1 week).


    The hitch instructions are at http://hiddenhitch.com/images/products/instructions/83514.pdf


    5 bolts, you should use a torque wrench. I added some Lithium Grease (from a spray can) at the bolts and weld nuts on the frame. Also helps to prevent rust. I used milk crates and some wood shims to hold the hitch up while I bolted it. Don't tighten any bolts fully, until all are in.


    I used the Hoppy adapter/converter (available from PepBoys or other auto stores on the web). The converter protects your electrical system, in case there is a problem with the trailer wiring. Drawtight also makes one. There is a rubber gromet (about a 1.5" diameter) under the trooper on left side (it is under the jack compartment). When you pull that out you have the wiring harness attached to it. Attach the hoppy converter connector and the new gromet, with the wires/connector through it, that comes with the converter and strap the converter with zip ties to the frame (away from the tail pipe). I zip tied the wire over to the receiver so it is unseen. I put the black connector right behind the left side plate (just to the left of the receiver). I bought a ball, tow/drop bar, and locking pin from Auto Zone.

    BTW, I have had a lot of use from my hitch and my 4x8' utility trailer (12" wheels and 1000 lb capacity). I bought my utility trailer from Harbor Freight Tools (free delivery). Needed to be put together and have stakes and side boards added, as well as a plywood bottom. Works great. I used it today for hauling 8' landscaping boards. Those are a lot of weight, and I would not have wanted them on a roof rack.

  • paisanpaisan Member Posts: 21,181
    Hey guys,

     I just got back from meeting with matt from independent 4x in New York. He is making me a rear bumper protector that fits inside a trailer hitch. Pricing looks to be in the $200 range and this thing is tough! As soon as I get some pics I'll post em of the prototype. I should have the unit in my hands by next week and I'll snap some more photos of it.


    -mike

    http://isuzu-suvs.com

  • jayboreedjayboreed Member Posts: 14
    Info on other hitch options: If you are wanting to consider your options, go to www.trailerhitch.com. They have Reese hitches there. I priced our a Class 3 hitch, and plug in wiring kit all for around 140 bucks, even with shipping. I however, have did not order it just yet and do not know if it is hidden. I don't have anything to pull just yet and that is why I did not order it. -- Reed
  • sdc2sdc2 Member Posts: 780
    Mine does that, sounds like a little flutter if you slip off the pedal quickly. I had the dealer look at it, said it was normal noise of the pedal hitting the brake light switch, not adjustable.

    One of these days I am going to look at it myself. It has been such a long winter I have put off much of my automotive tinkering.
  • sdc2sdc2 Member Posts: 780
    make sure you aren't just experiencing the crown of the road...check drift in both left and right lanes, if it drifts the SAME way in each lane, alignment may be needed. If it drifts different direction, it is just gravity.
  • paisanpaisan Member Posts: 21,181
    The only ill effects I had was that I didn't tie the wiring securely enough away from the tailpipe. In less than a week it fell ont he pipe, and melted off the shielding. When winter came and it got packed with salt-water from the road, it wound up shorting out my whole tail light system. (blew a fuse) so I disconnected it til I get a replacement. So just make sure to wire the wires in such a way they don't hit the tailpipe.

    -mike
  • bluedevilsbluedevils Member Posts: 2,554
    We just had the in-dash 6-CD changer on our 98 Trooper replaced free under factory warranty. The unit skipped very frequently, but the reason we brought it in was that it was locking up and refusing to play discs almost all the time. We had no problems getting it replaced by the local crappy dealer.
  • bluedevilsbluedevils Member Posts: 2,554
    I'm constantly trying to justify the purchase of another Trooper to complement our 98 Trooper with Performance Package. My 96 Trooper was totaled about 18 months ago, and the only thing besides a Trooper that I considered was a Mitsu Montero. But the Montero is much more expensive than a similarly equipped Trooper and arguably less reliable, so I got another Trooper. I love my 98, which just turned 44,000 miles today.
  • conman2000conman2000 Member Posts: 158
    Hi,
    Just wondering if anyone knows the specs on the 99 Trooper "Performace(LS)" package? I have seen one near me for around $18.5k and was wondering if it had foglights that year. I know in 98 it did not come with it. Any other differences between them and the current year(s)? I have the 98, 00, and 01 specs but don't have the specs on the 99s. Thanks.

    Cheers,
    Con
  • keepontroopinkeepontroopin Member Posts: 297
    Karl are you sure the noise you are hearing when depressing the brake pedal isn't the normal click sound for the shift release. The Trooper is designed so that you are not able to shift out of Park and into gear without first applying pressure to the brake pedal. If you try to shift from park to reverse without depressing the brake pedal you will realize you cannot do it. When you depress the brake pedal you will be able to shift from park to reverse or what ever gear you want. The clicking noise is actually the unlocking of the gear shift handle to allow it to move from P to R,N,D,3,2,1.
  • bluedevilsbluedevils Member Posts: 2,554
    I believe the 1999 Trooper Performance Package includes fog lamps. That's not a definitive answer, but I think I still have a 1999 Trooper brochure so I'll try to take a look when I get a chance.
  • teacherjimteacherjim Member Posts: 52
    I went to Chicago this past week and my milage for the highway driving was 18.8 mpg. I have a 2001 LS and there were 4 of us in the Trooper. My first 2 town and highway combined tanks neted 15.7 mpg and 16.2mpg. I can live with that kind of milage. I was afraid that it would be 12-14, I guess that my backroad commuting trip of 75 miles round trip is the kind of driving the Trooper likes, not much traffic and 60 mile per hour cruising with only a few stops.
  • conman2000conman2000 Member Posts: 158
    Thanks for the info. I have the 98, 00, and 01 brochure but for some reason I never picked up the 99. I think the only other changes was the auto AC on the 00 and up models and dropping the blue color. Thanks.

    Regards,
    Con
  • snaithsnaith Member Posts: 8
    Hi all. Sorry I did not post sooner, but I just signed the papers tonight.

    I bought an AS (without sunroof) for 28,240. this was $300 below invoice. At 0% interest I financed tax and tags as well for 60 months. beck, I would have financed this week's groceries if I could have.

    I am pretty satisfied with the deal all-in-all.

    Thanks for all the input.

    --Sean
  • paisanpaisan Member Posts: 21,181
    The only difference between the '99 perf package and the '00 LS are:

    '00 added/subtracted:
    + Grade Logic Transmission
    + Different rims (wire mesh)
    + Drive By Wire throttle control (may be in '99)
    + Auto-Climate control
    + solid paint on the black wedge by the 2 side doors, on '98 + '99 it was black in '00 and '01 it was painted body color
    + Moonmist Grey as a color
    + Clear rear Turn signals instead of Orange

    -mike
  • cd1000cd1000 Member Posts: 16
    Thanks for info on the hitches. I think I am going with the hidden hitch. My fiance and I are taking our trooper to Mexico this summer so we may be adding a roof rack of some sort. I really want the ability to carry a gas can since stations are few and far between. Here is a pic. Chris


    http://ia.yimg.com/a/ac52af3a/h/ab2738e3/IMG12.jpg

  • dwinzendwinzen Member Posts: 10
    I know that I tend to be spoiled when it comes to a/I on most vehicles but I wanted to know if anyone else felt the blower on the a/I is not powerful enough on the 95 Troopers. The air coming out of the vents feels suitable cold but the amount of air seems anemic. I have heavily tinted the rear windows and even provided the lowest amount of tinting on the front windows that would be acceptable by law (or at least would be enough to go unnoticed). Has anyone else felt this way? If so, is there a practical solution to increase the amount of air coming out the vents to ward off those HOT summer days?
  • gladiator636gladiator636 Member Posts: 13
    Does anyone know right off when the last body style change was for the Trooper?
    I just bought a 2001 Anniv. Edition (very nice SUV), and am looking for some aftermarket items (deflectors and stuff)
    Many of the places I've looked at on line only have products up to 2000.
    Is the 2001 the same body style as the 2000?
  • paisanpaisan Member Posts: 21,181
    00 and 01 are both astetically and mechanically the same.

    98-99 are astetically and mechanically the same

    98-01 are the same for most purposes of aftermarket parts. (different tranny, and drive by wire system on 00 and 01)

    -mike
  • cwmosercwmoser Member Posts: 227
    I saw a post that the 00-01 Troopers have drive by wire -- what is that?
  • paisanpaisan Member Posts: 21,181
    Drive by wire means there is no actual wire connected from your accelerator pedal to the fuel injectors/carburator. It is controlled by the computer based on input from the accelerator pedal rather than a phyical cable.

    -mike
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    sam7068 "Honda Odyssey XXX" Apr 13, 2001 2:20pm

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  • richard81richard81 Member Posts: 1
    OK guys...HELP !
    I'm considering a purchase of a Trooper but I'm unsure of the true towing ability. I'll be pulling a pop-up camper about 2700 lbs dry weight. How about some feedback...pros & cons.
  • dwinzendwinzen Member Posts: 10
    Richard81, you should be well within the towing ability. A Trooper is rated to pull 5000# which you would be well within that by 2300#. I pull a trailer that weighs 2300# dry with no problem. In fact, I almost forget its there.
  • guigsguigs Member Posts: 3
    Help! I received a quote on a 2001 Trooper LS with the sunroof of 28,200 plus tax and tags no rebate include but 0%. Is this a good deal? Any help would be appreciated.
  • paisanpaisan Member Posts: 21,181
    Yeah! Thats an awsome deal. I bought a 2000 LS for $27,500 with moonroof last june, got the rebate, but not the 0%, so with the 0% $1000 more than I paid is pretty darn good! Is it a 4wd or 2wd?

    -mike
  • guigsguigs Member Posts: 3
    Paisan,
    Its 4WD
  • paisanpaisan Member Posts: 21,181
    i'd say it's a great deal then.

    -mike
  • sgelmansgelman Member Posts: 2
    For some reason, my CHECK ENGINE light continues to come on about once a week. When I called the dealership, they told me to check my gas cap...

    They said that if the cap was loose, the CHECK ENGINE light would come on. I've checked the gas cap several times and I've made sure I tighten it every time I get gas. I don't know what else to do.

    Has anybody experienced this? Does anyone have any suggestions??? Please help.
  • paisanpaisan Member Posts: 21,181
    Bring it to the dealer, they can pull the computer code and tell you exactly what it is. Could be a faulty gas cap (covered under warranty) or a bad vaccum hose in the vapor recovery system.

    -mike
  • johnny_ringojohnny_ringo Member Posts: 30
    I had the same issue with my Check Engine light. The dealer replaced the accelerator sensor and the problem disappeared.
  • paisanpaisan Member Posts: 21,181
    Cobbo...

    That price if there was no incentive of 0% financing would yield the dealer a gross profit of $1900, which isn't that extravegant for a $30K+ Truck. With the 0% financing you are probably getting it for less than invoice.

    So IMHO you aren't getting hosed at all, especially cause he's giving you a good trade-in value.

    -mike
  • sgelmansgelman Member Posts: 2
    Does anyone know where I can go to get accessories for my '00 Trooper? I keep seeing Troopers driving around with the big black grills on the front (not sure of the proper name) and I was thinking about adding one.

    Anyone have an idea of cost?

    Thanks!
  • paisanpaisan Member Posts: 21,181
    http://isuzu-suvs.com I have a list of vendors on there.


    I also do group buys on ECB Nudge Bars http://isuzu-suvs.com/trooper/hella4000.html and http://isuzu-suvs.com/trooper/horn-nudge.html


    -mike

  • mvissermvisser Member Posts: 1
    I'm a Honda owner looking to make the change to an SUV. Does anyone know what the differences are between the Montero Sport, Pathfinder and the Trooper? Thanks.
  • paisanpaisan Member Posts: 21,181
    Well the Montero Sport is more in direct competition with the Rodeo, than the Trooper. The Trooper is much larger than the Monty, has selectable all-wheel drive, can tow a bit more, more luxury features and a better warranty.


    The pathfinder is bigger than the monty sport, but in no way is even close to the size of the Trooper. Also the only Pathfinder that has AWD, does not allow you to put it in 2wd nor have a 4wd lo range. Nissan also nickle and dimes you on options such as rear Limited Slip Differential, stereos, heated power seats, etc. etc.


    Benefits of the Trooper:


    o 10/120K Powertrain Warranty

    o 3/50K Bumper to Bumper Warranty

    o Standard Front, center and rear Skid Plates to protect the underbody

    o More headroom, space and overall comfort, the front seats are captains chairs, giving you a more upright/feet flat on the floor seating postion whereas the Monty and Pathfinder give you a more carlike sitdown, feet extended seating position

    o Moonroof on the Trooper is largest of any SUV (it's about 32"x28")

    o AWD, 2wd, 4wd Lo Range: The Trooper allows you to put the car in either 2wd mode, AWD mode (where 15%of the power goes to the front wheels and the transfer case can vary it up to 50/50 split based on traction available to each wheel) this can be used on dry or wet pavement or 4wd Lo range which locks in a 50/50 split of power and gives you more torque for driving through 3' snow banks and the like.

    o Boxy shape: This allows it to actually have utility, you can stack up boxes in the back right to the glass and can fit 17" monitor boxes into the back side doors with ease. When folded you can fit 6'+ from the back of the passenger seat to the back doors.

    o Not everyone on the road has a Trooper

    o Power folding side mirrors, hit a button, and the side mirrors fold flat against the truck, this has been ont he truck since '92, only now does Cadilac, Range Rover, Mercedes and Toyota now offer it.

    o Price, currently a fully loaded Trooper LS with moonroof is running around $28,500 w cloth seats.


    Check out http://isuzu-suvs.com for more info.


    -mike

  • crunchycrunchy Member Posts: 26
    A couple notes on this discussion:

    1. Cargo floor length, with seats folded, is longer in the Pathfinder than in the Trooper. I tested this by trying to lie down in the back of each; I can't do it in the Trooper, but I can in the Pathfinder.

    2. Even though the Pathfinder has a new 240hp engine, all of its hp and torque are at very high rpms. In my test drives, the Trooper felt much more powerful (at 215hp), with a lot more pick-up than the Pathfinder.

    3. Both are very nice vehicles. Bottom line, though, is that the Trooper is a truck, and the Pathfinder is a car. You can't go wrong with either, it just depends on your preferences. Personally, I found the Trooper to be much more fun to drive, probably because I'm used to driving a truck.

    Good luck!

    Sue
  • paisanpaisan Member Posts: 21,181
    I was talking about on top of the folded over seats for storage space. I found if you fold down the seats (without folding them up against the front seats) that it yields much more space. The other thing is that the squared off interior and much higher ceiling will yield a lot more volume than the PF, IMHO.

    The floor length I did notice was a bit short, but if only fold the seats down rather than fold and tumble, you'll be able to get bigger stuff in.

    -mike
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